Mexican D/S Ride Jan 5-14th 2007

[XR650Rocketman]

The "Lost Trail Club Riders" have been having a pretty good year in 2006, so far, with a ride a month at least....Maybe it's time to start planning a little further out....Not too far that everyone loses interest but just far enough to plan time off....

January 2007.....Ride of the month club.....Mexico and ?

The route is tentative, as are the dates!!!!
The riders so far are Teeds, Irondawg and Rocketman.
All we need to do now is fill in the details.....

Steve Smith

[Photojojo]

I'm more than likely in, I've already planted the seed and it went pretty well. We can all talk more in Broken Bow.

[Teeds]

I'm more than likely in, I've already planted the seed and it went pretty well. We can all talk more in Broken Bow.

Whoo Hooo ... I will have the maps with me ...

Oh yea ... dates look good to me except that is ONLY 10 days ... I will be ready on the 2nd ... OK, the afternoon of the 1st ... Well, I COULD be ready on the 31st ... but no sooner, because I will not be back from Big Bend until the 30th.

[Photojojo]

10 days is probably all I could swing. I'm not counting travel time to the border in that 10 days So I'm figuring another 2 days to get the border back. that will put me away from home and work for 12 days That is assuming we enter from Texas.

[fastmonstr]

Man Steve, I've been trying to get you South of the Border for years.

Where are we going?

[ta2240]

Whoo Hooo ... I will have the maps with me ...

Oh yea ... dates look good to me except that is ONLY 10 days ... I will be ready on the 2nd ... OK, the afternoon of the 1st ... Well, I COULD be ready on the 31st ... but no sooner, because I will not be back from Big Bend until the 30th.

Tony!

No more trips for you until your current assignments are finished.
We have been expecting the Utah ride report for weeks.:doh:
Now, stop logging on here and FINISH THAT REPORT!:eat:

[Tourmeister]

What about Clayton? That ride was back in March and I still haven't seen a single pic from Teeds on that one :shrug:

[irondawg]

Man...I'm half way to Guatemala. I've been thinking hard about a trip like this all day and night. Yes people..it freaking 3 in the morning as I type this. After some thought, I think Jan may not be a good time to do this ride. Oct or late March would be better. The reason is that there will be snow and ice up in the mountains.

Not sure if we could make it down and back to Guat in 10 days...maybe 12. If we went thru central Mexico with a departure point of Eagle Pass that will keep us in the mountains and away from big cities. Figure 300 to 350 miles per day. Stops in Saltillo, Leon, Taxco, and cross into Guat at Ciudad Cuauhtemec. From there its about 100 miles to Coban.

If this is too much we could do MX-lite. Leon was the site of the 2005 World Ralley Cup race. If you're familiar with WRC you know they go out of their way to find the sickest mountain roads to race on. It'd be cool to setup camp in Leon and venture out from there. BTW, Leon is where the shot The Mexican.

Prepping and packing is another challenge. What to bring...what not to bring. How much redundancy do we need? I know that everyone doesn't need there own set of tire irons, 5 tubes of JB Weld, or 4 sets of 1/4 inch sockets. What tires? Full knobby or 50/50? Not sure if full knobby would make the whole trip. But are easy to find in MX.

Food, gas, lodging shouldn't be a problem. Lot's of places that have laundry service if you ask.

OK...I'm going to load my Garmin World Map and start working on a route.

Everyone got their passports?

[XR650Rocketman]

John....Be careful, your brain may not work too well at 3 am!

Steve

[Photojojo]

Oct or late March would be better.

I can't do Oct. this year. I could proabably do late March though.


If this is too much we could do MX-lite. Leon was the site of the 2005 World Ralley Cup race. If you're familiar with WRC you know they go out of their way to find the sickest mountain roads to race on. It'd be cool to setup camp in Leon and venture out from there. BTW, Leon is where the shot The Mexican.

This sounds good to me

Prepping and packing is another challenge. What to bring...what not to bring. How much redundancy do we need? I know that everyone doesn't need there own set of tire irons, 5 tubes of JB Weld, or 4 sets of 1/4 inch sockets. What tires? Full knobby or 50/50? Not sure if full knobby would make the whole trip. But are easy to find in MX.

Your right everybody does not need their own tube of JB Weld but having one tube per every two or three people might not be a bad idea in case of seperation. I would carry my toolpack anyway, but the contents could be altered according to what everybody else is carrying. If we stay at Leon we could probably pre-ship a care package with tires and whatever other misc. things we might need in it

I would probably switch to the D606. It's good for at least 4000 miles of general riding. I would probably expect 3000 miles in Mexico.

Food, gas, lodging shouldn't be a problem. Lot's of places that have laundry service if you ask.

Three pairs of everything has always worked for me on trips where I know I will do wash.

Everyone got their passports?

Nope and they just raised the price. :doh:

Now where did I put that Mexico map......

[ta2240]

What about Clayton? That ride was back in March and I still haven't seen a single pic from Teeds on that one :shrug:

Well, I know he has great photos of Utah, I already have them. Are you sure he was in Clayton?

Maybe if I were as busy as him I would be as skinny!

[Photojojo]

Maybe if I were as busy as him I was be as skinny!

:rofl:

[Teeds]

March good ...

October good ...

I love being self-employed ...

Tim: I am on page 4 of the ride report ...

Scott: Clayton is next ...

:doh: reports are piling up ...

[XR650Rocketman]

Are we talking October 06 and March 07 or all 2007?
Steve

[Teeds]

Are we talking October 06 and March 07 or all 2007?
Steve

Reality is March 2007, as I see it.

[Photojojo]

March 07 would probably work for me, but I still like Jan. better.

[XR650Rocketman]

I'm with you Chris, January works for me.....It really depends on our route and the weather.....I have a photo of me in Baja in March of 1996, throwing snowballs....Crazy things can happen......May in Moab we had trails blocked with snow!!!
Let's talk about the route when we are in Broken Bow.

Steve

[Goat Trail Green]

If you keep it in January I am probably in....

Mike Green -- billyji

[teamswaney]

If You Will Allow Me To Ride With You All, I Am In..............roger

[XR650Rocketman]

Darn.....there's that teamswaney guy again!!!!
Roger....It will be a special treat for all of us if you can join us on this trip.....
(Did I suck up just right like you told me to, Tim)

Did you get a 100oz bladder yet?

Steve

[ta2240]

As soon as I mentioned it to Roger he said he could not do it then about two seconds later he said he was in. Trust me, he would not miss a ride like that.
I am not throwing my name in until the details are worked out and I see if I have enough time to get another bike and have it ready to go. I would not want to do that trip on the WR and I really don't want to think about another bike right now.

[Photojojo]

I would not want to do that trip on the WR and I really don't want to think about another bike right now.

I'm leary of doing it on the DR350/435. The OK/AR trip will be the first multi day long hard ride I've been on with it. Hopefully by the end of the weekend I'll have a good idea if it's capable.

[irondawg]

Chris...My DR did the Lost Trail Ride great...3 days for a total of 785 miles. Your's will be fine.

[Photojojo]

Chris...My DR did the Lost Trail Ride great...3 days for a total of 785 miles. Your's will be fine.

Yeah I know, it's all in my head. And that's a pretty scary place sometimes. :eek2:

[teamswaney]

No bladder yet, I am researching some back packs and drink systems as we speak. I am also rethinking my tool bag, or the one I left on Sand Flat Rd. in Moab. I will have it figured out soon.

[Goat Trail Green]

Heres an idea from another forum

http://www.4strokes.com/tech/rearfenderbag.asp

I havent been riding long enough again or in the ds world to have an opinion

Mike Green

[FirstMan]

I was going to use a small bag and a bungie net made for bikes. I gave my last one away, so I have to go up to Cycle gear and buy one before the arkansas trip. I like the nets because you can always manage to stuff one more thing (a water bottle) between the net and the bag.

[Tx Rider]

Boy does this ride sound tempting.. :)

[XR650Rocketman]

Many of the interested riders will be on the Broken Bow OK ride later this month so we'll try to add some details for this trip....You know, minor things like "Exactly when and where are we going to go?"

Stay tuned.....

[Teeds]

My vote is that we stick to January and "Just Do It" ...

What is a "little" snow ... :rider:

[Photojojo]

My vote is that we stick to January and "Just Do It" ...

What is a "little" snow ... :rider:

I see a possible title for an epic trip report about an epic ride.

As long as Teed's not in charge of it we might get to read it sometime before 2008...hint, hint.

[Teeds]

I see a possible title for an epic trip report about an epic ride.

As long as Teed's not in charge of it we might get to read it sometime before 2008...hint, hint.

Thats Teeds' to you buckwheat ... where is the Bronx Cheer Smilie ... oh yea ... :thpt:

I just go in from a 3 day 950+ mile loop to Breckenridge, Abilene, Pecos and Fort Stockton. No, in my truck, not on a bike ... too much poop to carry.

:deal: will be wrapped up for Moab this weekend, between bouts of trying to draw a remodel for a project that I have a meeting on at Lake Sam Rayburn on Monday morning ... like all good architects, I waited until the client got REALLY mad BEFORE starting ... so now I have to be "over the top" ... kinda like writing my ride reports ...

L8tr ...

Oh yea ... do we need to tell Tim to just grow some? Think about it ... shuuuuurrrreeeee .... :rofl:

[Photojojo]

Alright, alright I get your point. I guess everybody can't have the relaxed lifestyle of a newspaper photographer. :mrgreen:

When are you gonna make your way to Fannin county so we can do the dirt road thing? I found some nice ones the last time. The kind with grass growing up the middle and corn fields on both sides.

I need help getting from Honey Grove to Paris though so the Paris to Decatur ride that nobody talks about any more can actually get done.

[Teeds]

When are you gonna make your way to Fannin county so we can do the dirt road thing? I found some nice ones the last time. The kind with grass growing up the middle and corn fields on both sides.

I need help getting from Honey Grove to Paris though so the Paris to Decatur ride that nobody talks about any more can actually get done.

Good question ... lets compare schedules in BB and come up with a weekend that will work. I am busier than a one armed paperhanger between now and then.

[ta2240]

Oh yea ... do we need to tell Tim to just grow some? Think about it ... shuuuuurrrreeeee .... :rofl:

I have been thinking:zen:

[Teeds]

I have been thinking:zen:

Remember ... Gary's XR-R is "for sale" :sun:

[ta2240]

I would rather have and L but trust me, I got a little twitch when I read that he was selling it

[Photojojo]

There is this BRP (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144258) up for trade in Gruene, Tejas. Anybody know him?

[Goat Trail Green]

My vote is that we stick to January and "Just Do It" ...

What is a "little" snow ... :rider:


I agree we can adjust as necessary. I am good from the 5th-14th I might be able to back it up to the 3rd or 4th but probably nothing before that. Good ole airline job keep them flying 24 and 7


Mike Green

[Roodawg307]

hey everyone....just curious if there are any smaller cc bikes plannin to go on this trip...?...what type of range do most of your bikes have...i have a dr250s with a 4.2 gallon tank goin on it this week....if my bike is in excellent mechanical condition is it up for such a long trip.....?..i think that would be a trip to never forget....

[teamswaney]

:pirate: How quick we forget about the snow......................Moab in May . Best time to go to Mexico is in May and November, with the least amount of rainfall in November, but hey I don't mind riding in any type of weather, as long as we are riding.

[Teeds]

:pirate: How quick we forget about the snow......................Moab in May . Best time to go to Mexico is in May and November, with the least amount of rainfall in November, but hey I don't mind riding in any type of weather, as long as we are riding.

Steve mentioned something about trying sand paddle tires . . . also I am considering snow shoes. I will probably get a Rekluse clutch if I get the snow shoes. :trust:

I emailed Rick Mayer about a new saddle (for real).

[Goat Trail Green]

This thread will be very long by the time Januray hits


Mike Green

[Photojojo]

I FOUND MY MEXICO MAP!!!

It's a wonder what cleaning will do for you. Ok, now I'm gonna go back and look at town names just to get a visual in my head.

[Goat Trail Green]

Hey Chris

Bring it Sunday

Mike

[Photojojo]

Will do. Wait a minute, didn't know you were coming along as well, the more the merrier. If you need to do any work on the bike we got a lift and tire changer.

[Goat Trail Green]

LOL suprise suprise, I had asked about riding but they originally didnt plan to ride very much, now they are up for some riding. I am all legal now texas title plate inspection and insurance. Mine is ready to go. I figured a little pre run for next weekend would be good.

With this front coming through it should be a nice day...

Maybe we should make another post. N Texas ride Sunday..

I have no wrenching on the ATK. I sill cant figure out the XL ???\

Mike Green

[ta2240]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[Photojojo]

I will not have the new bike titled in my name by January. I'm not real sure how that works, but how can I get the bike across if I don't have a title?

[Teeds]

I will not have the new bike titled in my name by January. I'm not real sure how that works, but how can I get the bike across if I don't have a title?

I remember from another thread something about a "Permission Letter".

[ta2240]

I will not have the new bike titled in my name by January. I'm not real sure how that works, but how can I get the bike across if I don't have a title?

When I crossed the border I did not have a title but I did have a letter from the credit union it was financed through. The funny thing was I never showed the letter because I did all of my paperwork at the Mexican Consul here in Houston.

[Photojojo]

What did the letter say? I'm guessing something like Joe Blow can take this bike, VIN #..... into mexico on such and such date....??

[XR650Rocketman]

I will not have the new bike titled in my name by January. I'm not real sure how that works, but how can I get the bike across if I don't have a title?


You should get the title transferred to you with the seller retaining a lein on the bike......That will get you a duplicate title....But....Ask the seller to let you borrow the original title for the trip......I did it with a bank in Beaumont years ago and it worked out fine...I guess they trusted me!

[Goat Trail Green]

I will not have the new bike titled in my name by January. I'm not real sure how that works, but how can I get the bike across if I don't have a title?


the same way day labor arrives from everyday ;) LMAO. You just need to do that backwards


In all honesty it all depends on the crossing. Several years ago I took my Jeep on a trailer to San Miguel Allende. I had the tow rig title and Jeep title. They refused to allow me to take the Jeep in. After several hours they finally allowed me to sign the title over my buddy and have it bonded in his name then I also had to get insurance. I would say you should try to get everything in your name or be prepared to pay in order to make it alright. Another thing while I was there a group of motorcycle riders were hanging out. The year prior they had went into Mexico at one point and came out of another. This rider did not get papaerwork and make sure they logged him out at the other departure point. These guys had been there 2 days and they still would not allow him back in the country. They claimed he drove his bike to Mexico and sold it, then flew back. They wanted him to pay fines and the taxes for selling the bike !!!!
I think it can be real easy and then real hrad. Be the best prepared you can from the start !!

Mike Green

[Hoop]

Is there a tentative duration for this trip? This is one that I've wanted to do for many years but never got around to it. I've ridden in CC three times, but haven't been back since 1995. One trip we crossed the river at Chinipas and made it to Alamos, spent the night, then headed back north again. I would like to go if it doesn't take me away too long!

[ta2240]

What did the letter say? I'm guessing something like Joe Blow can take this bike, VIN #..... into mexico on such and such date....??

Sorry Chris, I missed the last three posts. The letter was a form that the Credit Union signed stating;

THIS IS TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT___________ IS/ARE MEMEBERS OF_________ FEDERAL CREDIT UNION AND THAT WE ARE THE LIENHOLDER OF THE_______________, LICENSE PLATE NUMBER__________.

DEPARTURE FROM HOUSTON, TEXAS WILL BE_________________.
DUE TO ARRIVE BACK IN HOUSTON, TEXAS ON________________.


Then they notarize it.
I also had a copy of the title and the registration receipt.
I did all of my paperwork at the Mexican Consul here in Houston and they are more strict than the border. You will have NO problem.

On the post that Mike made about the guy that came back and did not get checked back in, they do it different now. You must give them a credit card number so that if you do not return they charge you $300 to $400.

It is really not difficult.

[Teeds]

Is there a tentative duration for this trip? This is one that I've wanted to do for many years but never got around to it. I've ridden in CC three times, but haven't been back since 1995. One trip we crossed the river at Chinipas and made it to Alamos, spent the night, then headed back north again. I would like to go if it doesn't take me away too long!

Hoop, I have it down as January 5th through January 14th. I "think" that is the dates.

[XR650Rocketman]

Those are the dates.....We lose 5 working days and add 2 weekends to the trip, making it a 9 day adventure.....

Hoop you really should do this one!!!!We need someone who can act a little responsibly South of the border, down Mexico way!!!!

[Hoop]

I've put it on my calendar. Seems like a lot of ground to cover in 9 days, but I know Steve can cover a lot of ground in a day. The ferry kills a solid day, as I recall.

I probably need to go on a warm-up ride with the regular D/S crew sometime this fall. BTW, I really enjoy that you guys have become so active in posting D/S rides all over the place, at least once per month. I just wish I could make it some of them!

I apologize in advance for not wading through this whole thread and all the hijackings. Are we hoteling or camping? Do I need to send someone money at some point? (loaded question, I realize)

[Photojojo]

I Are we hoteling or camping?

From what I understand hotels are to cheap to make it worth camping

Do I need to send someone money at some point? (loaded question, I realize)

Yes it is loaded and you can send me money anytime. :-P

[XR650Rocketman]

I've put it on my calendar. Seems like a lot of ground to cover in 9 days, but I know Steve can cover a lot of ground in a day. The ferry kills a solid day, as I recall.

I probably need to go on a warm-up ride with the regular D/S crew sometime this fall. BTW, I really enjoy that you guys have become so active in posting D/S rides all over the place, at least once per month. I just wish I could make it some of them!

I apologize in advance for not wading through this whole thread and all the hijackings. Are we hoteling or camping? Do I need to send someone money at some point? (loaded question, I realize)

It'll be a "Spirited" ride Hoop, but plenty "doable"....The Ferry day is actually a day of rest....We'll be hoteling for sure!!!!....No money needed....This is for fun....If we start trying to make money from our hobby and passion it's just a job and " Work Sucks"

We've been trying to do " The Ride of the Month Club" this year....We've done pretty well so far.....July is my month to reunite with my wife....Come on August....

August is the Lost Trail ride.....September, Labor Day weekend is Cloudcroft....Later in September is The Nevada Rally Experience......October is preparation for the November TRH Terlingua D/S ride.....December is still open....January 07 is the Presidio, Copper Canyon, Baja, Arizona, New Mexico and back to Presidio ride....Did I miss anything?

[Hoop]

I'm all for hoteling! Less weight to carry on the bike. The cost isn't as dirt cheap as it used to be. The CC area has too much tourism traffic to be really cheap. I've been in Batopilas back in the 90's when the Hotel Mary was booked up and we had to sleep in the "second" hotel. It was a trip.

If anyone's taking suggestions on where to overnight, Creel has some reasonable places to stay (10 years ago). From Presidio, I would assume we can make it to Creel in a day. Chinipas is at the southern end of the CC area, and has a reasonable hotel (10 years ago), and was a very friendly little town. From Creel to Chinipas is a long day's ride (at a relatively leisurely pace, 10 years ago, may be all pavement now). Alamos is across the river and a couple of hours south from Chinipas, it is a very nice town with a couple of hotels to choose from, but more expensive due to gringo tourist traffic.

I'm guessing that we're not doing any side trips in CC to Urique or Batopilas, based on the ambitious round-trip plans.

[Photojojo]

.January 07 is the Presidio, Copper Canyon, Baja, Arizona, New Mexico and back to Presidio ride

What is that...9,000 miles in 9 days?

[XR650Rocketman]

No.....No....No....But I'm starting with a new rear tire!!!!

[ta2240]

In Creel a Hotel called Margaritas is a must!
The owner of Margaritas also has a hotel in Batopilas that took 7 years to build, it is incredible!

[FirstMan]

Okay, this is killing me. I am in as long as I sell my house. You guys get to deal with me on the MZ!

[XR650Rocketman]

Okay, this is killing me. I am in as long as I sell my house. You guys get to deal with me on the MZ!

Adam....That's a new one....Usually it's " If I can get the time off" or "if my wife will let me" or "if my bike is ready".

Get to work on it. You have time!!!!

[FirstMan]

The house is on the market. It was suposed to close on June 30th, but the buyers backed out. I am dying to get out of this house payment...

[Teeds]

What is that...9,000 miles in 9 days?

This statement got me curious, so I pulled up my GPS software and traced out a route, based upon what I know ... what little I know ... and i came up with ..

2,591 miles assuming we start in Presidio and we return to Presidio.

I will not post the route because I know it is wrong in many places ...

I did touch the following

Ojinaga
Chihuahua
Creel
Batopilas
Los Mochis
Ferry to La Paz
Mulege
Coco's Corner
San Felipe
Mike's Sky Ranch
Mexicali
El Paso
Presidio

[XR650Rocketman]

Tony....That's less than 400 miles per day, if you don't count the ferry day!

[Teeds]

Tony....That's less than 400 miles per day, if you don't count the ferry day!

I was tired after our 335 mile day ...

I understand that you are responsible for getting us through Baja. All I ask is that we get to both coasts, Coco's Corner and Mike's Sky Ranch ...

I did a bit of zigging and zagging as I went up Baja, so my mileage could well be long. I also got lost going across southern Arizona and New Mexico so I am fairly sure I am a bit fat there as well.

In any case, 400 miles a day will be a push for 10 days of riding ...

John assures me we will make Creel on Day One and that "should" be the longest day.

I know one thing for sure ... All questions will be answered by January 14th, when we roll back into Presidio.

John: What was the name of the maps you got for Arizona and New Mexico?

[Hoop]

this is probably a dumb question, but I assume you didn't count the miles that the ferry takes us!

And I know I'm pointing out the obvious, but if we start Day 2 in Creel, the trip to Batopilas is a detour from the main task of getting to the coast. It's about a 160-mile round-trip side trip. 10 years ago, the first 40 miles from Creel were paved, I don't know how much is paved now. Unless of course, there's a new route continuing south from Batopilas where you don't have to back-track!

So, my suggestion would be, if we want to take a side-trip to the bottom of one of the canyons, go to Urique instead, it's only a 70 mile round-trip side trip.

I'd also be curious to know the route we take to Los Mochis. After that, I'll shut up, because I don't know anything about Baja.

[XR650Rocketman]

Hey Hoop....irondawg is our resident expert on the mainland part of the trip, plus his Spanish is pretty good, plus his Brother-in-law is a federal cop in the copper canyon area.....I'm in his hands 'til we hit Baja!!!!

steve

[Teeds]

this is probably a dumb question, but I assume you didn't count the miles that the ferry takes us!

Nope, did not include it ...

And I know I'm pointing out the obvious, but if we start Day 2 in Creel, the trip to Batopilas is a detour from the main task of getting to the coast. It's about a 160-mile round-trip side trip. 10 years ago, the first 40 miles from Creel were paved, I don't know how much is paved now. Unless of course, there's a new route continuing south from Batopilas where you don't have to back-track!

So, my suggestion would be, if we want to take a side-trip to the bottom of one of the canyons, go to Urique instead, it's only a 70 mile round-trip side trip.

I'd also be curious to know the route we take to Los Mochis.

John is working on the route. He has an extensive amount of time touring around the area as his wife is from the area. I assume he will get us there with a minimum amount of wandering about. Lord knows I did (wander about).

After that, I'll shut up, because I don't know anything about Baja.

I knew I should not have said anything ... :giveup:

It was only a guess ...

[Photojojo]

I'm up for just about anything as long as I come back in enough pieces that I can be reassembled.

[ta2240]

This statement got me curious, so I pulled up my GPS software and traced out a route, based upon what I know ... what little I know ... and i came up with ..

2,591 miles assuming we start in Presidio and we return to Presidio.

I will not post the route because I know it is wrong in many places ...

I did touch the following

Ojinaga
Chihuahua
Creel
Batopilas
Los Mochis
Ferry to La Paz
Mulege
Coco's Corner
San Felipe
Mike's Sky Ranch
Mexicali
El Paso
Presidio

Hmmmm! This sure is interesting!

Hoop, you don't have to backtrack. It is in and out

[irondawg]

I think we said this before but this trip is not for the faint of heart, head, butt, or bike. We are trying to cram a lot in...I think it's doable. Will there be long days...HECK YEAH!! Will this ride be tough...HECK YEAH!! Will it be fun...HECK YEAH!!

Here's a high-level breakdown so far. But things may change in the next 5 months...:trust:

Day 1 Presido to Creel
Day 2 Creel to Los Mochis
Day 3 Los Mochis to La Paz (ferry)
Day 4 La Paz to Mulege
Day 5 Mulege to Mike's Sky Ranch with a stop at Coco's Corner
Day 6 Mike's Sky Ranch to Nogales, AZ
Day 7 Nogales to Las Cruces, NM
Day 8 Las Cruces to Presido via the Lost Trail
Day 9 Presido to home

Tony - Benchmark

[Teeds]

Tony - Benchmark

:huh:

[irondawg]

Should have included the quote....you asked what maps for AZ and NM I was using....Benchmark.

[Teeds]

Should have included the quote....you asked what maps for AZ and NM I was using....Benchmark.

:thumb:

I picked up a Mexico map to mark my route on during the trip ...

[ta2240]

Some Pics.

Top of the Canyon
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c18/ta2240/Image02.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c18/ta2240/Image01.jpg

Hotel in Batopilas
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c18/ta2240/Image03.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c18/ta2240/Image07.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c18/ta2240/Image06.jpg

Hotel in Creel
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c18/ta2240/Image04.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c18/ta2240/Image05.jpg

I have alot more but that is just a taste

[mcrider]

FYI. A passport is now required to get back in the US from Mexico & Canada.

[FirstMan]

FYI. A passport is now required to get back in the US from Mexico & Canada.

My passport should be here any day now.

It takes at least 6 weeks to get here, so whoever doesn't have one you might not want to procrastinate.

[ta2240]

FYI. A passport is now required to get back in the US from Mexico & Canada.

Hmmmmm! Will someone tell the MEXICANS :biggun:


:rofl: :lol2: :rofl: :lol2: :rofl: :lol2: :rofl: :lol2: :rofl:

[FirstMan]

Hmmmmm! Will someone tell the MEXICANS :biggun:


:rofl: :lol2: :rofl: :lol2: :rofl: :lol2: :rofl: :lol2: :rofl:

Do you have an XR650 yet?

[mcrider]

Hmmmmm! Will someone tell the MEXICANS :biggun:


:rofl: :lol2: :rofl: :lol2: :rofl: :lol2: :rofl: :lol2: :rofl:

ONLY APPLIES TO AMERICANS!

[ta2240]

ONLY APPLIES TO AMERICANS!

Hmmmmm. Well Chris, that was part of the JOKE!:doh:Most Mexicans that come over don't do it the right way anyway

No Adam but I did go see it today. I have to get the official word from Roger and then after that since it is at the suspension shop I will have them put in larger springs and then I will bring it home. You know it is like a baby coming home from the hospital, everything has to be just right.

[MIGHTYMOUSE]

Sorry to but in, my first post here. No one has said "where " in mexico are you going? I might want to join you guys.

[XR650Rocketman]

This statement got me curious, so I pulled up my GPS software and traced out a route, based upon what I know ... what little I know ... and i came up with ..

2,591 miles assuming we start in Presidio and we return to Presidio.

I will not post the route because I know it is wrong in many places ...

I did touch the following

Ojinaga
Chihuahua
Creel
Batopilas
Los Mochis
Ferry to La Paz
Mulege
Coco's Corner
San Felipe
Mike's Sky Ranch
Mexicali
El Paso
Presidio

Just got to read the whole thread......Post #69....

Welcome to the TWT Forum by the way.....

Steve

[FirstMan]

Some Pics.

Top of the Canyon
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c18/ta2240/Image02.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c18/ta2240/Image01.jpg

Hotel in Batopilas
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c18/ta2240/Image03.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c18/ta2240/Image07.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c18/ta2240/Image06.jpg

Hotel in Creel
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c18/ta2240/Image04.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c18/ta2240/Image05.jpg

I have alot more but that is just a taste

I never said it, but thoes pics are great. I cannot wait!

Edit: I rode the bike this morning. I am haveing fuel issues all the way to the main jet, so I am going to assume the pilot jet is partially clogged. Starts right up, but when I decelerate to a stop with the brakes it stalls, and sitting at lights I have to give it a little gas and it stays idleing. It isn't smooth 1/4 throttle, but gets up and goes when a give it a lot of gas.

I figure at least it isn't the other way around. I like to give it gas.

[teamswaney]

Are you taking the MZ to mexico ??????????

[Goat Trail Green]

Are you taking the MZ to mexico ??????????

Terra and him took Adams Jeep out for the weekend. They will be back Sunday. Last time I knew he was talking the MZ....

Mike Green

[FirstMan]

Are you taking the MZ to mexico ??????????

Yeah, unless the perfect DS just falls into my lap. Yall can leave me behind if it breaks down, but I starting to figure out all the parts. Besides the frame, everything is Yamaha, or KTM.

[FirstMan]

I got my passport back yesterday. It took well over 2 months to get back to me.

[teamswaney]

Nobody gets left behind. Just curious thats all.....

[FirstMan]

Nobody gets left behind. Just curious thats all.....

I will be going over it a few times before then. Also, my skill level has risen quite a bit. Don't tell teeds, but his bark busters work :rider: I barely tapped a tree in the top of second gear. Bike was unhurt (thankfully) and I went flying. I plan to do some maintaince on the bike and send it back to the owner. I have pushed my luck far enough with a borrowed bike.

[ta2240]

I will be going over it a few times before then. Also, my skill level has risen quite a bit. Don't tell teeds, but his bark busters work :rider: I barely tapped a tree in the top of second gear. Bike was unhurt (thankfully) and I went flying. I plan to do some maintaince on the bike and send it back to the owner. I have pushed my luck far enough with a borrowed bike.

I missed something, who's bike are you riding. Was the MZ borrowed?

[FirstMan]

I missed something, who's bike are you riding. Was the MZ borrowed?

The skill level comment was the transition into the next thought process and the story telling. Sorry about that

[Goat Trail Green]

I missed something, who's bike are you riding. Was the MZ borrowed?


He has Teeds KTM 200, its amazing the difference a little tuning and performance enhancing items will do. Teeds verses Terras. Both are fun but Teeds will get it !!

Mike Green

[MIGHTYMOUSE]

You should get the title transferred to you with the seller retaining a lein on the bike......That will get you a duplicate title....But....Ask the seller to let you borrow the original title for the trip......I did it with a bank in Beaumont years ago and it worked out fine...I guess they trusted me!


Rocketman is right on the money. It sometimes depends on where you cross and whose there and whether or not they are in a bad mood too.

Last year we went to three different border crossings before we could get across. We were trailering our bikes to Monterrey. The truck and the trailer and all the bikes on the trailer had to be the same owner. Nothing smaller than 500cc's was allowed, so we put some Fox stickers over over the "450" on our bikes and told them that they were 525's. (it doesnt specify on the titles) Furthermore we were supposed to ride the 525's (full dirtbikes)across and out of town before we were allowed to trailer them. We managed to convince and pursuade otherwise and all went well.

I mention all this just to point out that you should be ready way ahead of time as it could take all day to get anything done if your not prepared, the previous year was even crazier and the rules/ laws seem to be made up as they go in some cases.

It's easier on your DS bikes as they are driven across but thought I would share our story just so all realize it isnt always a cakewalk.

:rider:

[skinny]

I'm officially putting my name in for the Mexico trip...I'm planning on taking the HP2, but I may change my mind by January and take the DRZ. I've found a 1.6 gallon aux fuel container that mounts on the rear luggage rack, so that should give me at least 150 mile fuel range. All that's left is to get my sad old body in shape to make 9 days. Keeping up with the Lost Trail bunch is hard for a couch potato/office dog...:flip:

[FirstMan]

What range should I plan for on this trip? I think that will be the weakest link on the bike except for my abilities.

[texxter]

I just saw this thread. Definitely interesting! I have been to Mexico many times before, but never on two wheels. Copper Canyon is a great destination - just picked up a V-Strom, so I may be in. I speak Spanish.

Count me as a definite maybe.

I think we said this before but this trip is not for the faint of heart, head, butt, or bike. We are trying to cram a lot in...I think it's doable. Will there be long days...HECK YEAH!! Will this ride be tough...HECK YEAH!! Will it be fun...HECK YEAH!!

Here's a high-level breakdown so far. But things may change in the next 5 months...:trust:

Day 1 Presido to Creel
Day 2 Creel to Los Mochis
Day 3 Los Mochis to La Paz (ferry)
Day 4 La Paz to Mulege
Day 5 Mulege to Mike's Sky Ranch with a stop at Coco's Corner
Day 6 Mike's Sky Ranch to Nogales, AZ
Day 7 Nogales to Las Cruces, NM
Day 8 Las Cruces to Presido via the Lost Trail
Day 9 Presido to home

Tony - Benchmark

[BajaRat]

Am I the only person who thinks this ride could be VERY COLD??????

I have been in Baja in JAN and froze my :moon: off !!!!!!

[Hoop]

Weather channel averages for La Paz, in January 54 - 74 F.

http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/businesstraveler/wxclimatology/monthly/graph/MXBS0006?from=month_bottomnav_business

Tijuana from Weather Channel, 46 - 68 F

Found a reference in Clement Salvadori's book that says to stay on the east coast to stay warm.

Creel, from an old map, 23 - 56 F
Batopilas, 48 - 72 F

Sounds like it will be chilly away from the coast and at high elevations.

Phoenix 43 - 65 F

[mcrider]

What is the latest on Mexico? Although I'm not going, I am keeping up with the ride.

[CBAT]

What is the latest on Mexico? Although I'm not going, I am keeping up with the ride.
Looking forward to the trip report. ;-)

[skinny]

What is the latest on Mexico? Although I'm not going, I am keeping up with the ride.


At this point, I think we're all just marking time waiting for departure next Thurs. I plan on doing my final packing this week-end to see if everything will actually fit on my motorcycle and still have room for me... the weather looks good for the next 10 days, so maybe with a little luck, we can get to the mountains without freezing...after that, who knows???
I guess you're in a similar mode for your upcoming Costa Rica trip...If we survive Mexico, I'm looking forward to your trip report...

Skinny (El Flaco in espanol) :trust:

[XR650Rocketman]

I'm sitting on the beach in Florida wishing I was home so I can finish getting me and my bike ready...Just a few things left to do now....

Mentally I'm ready, actually had a dream in Spanish last night!

Come on next week!!!!!!

Steve

[Hoop]

Mentally I'm ready, actually had a dream in Spanish last night!


What did she say?

[XR650Rocketman]

Heck I don't know.......It was all in Spanish!!!!!
Just loading up to head for home.....

Later.

Steve

[Greasemonkey]

Hope you guys have a blast. Can't wait to here how everything went. Stay between the ditches!!!

[mafols]

Good luck to all of you guy's...wish I were going too.Maybe next time.

I'm sure it'll be a blast.

Matt

[irondawg]

Hope you guys have a blast. Can't wait to here how everything went. Stay between the ditches!!!

All I know is that the next two days are going to be a test of patience. I'm so ready to hit the road it's going to be tough to stay focused at work.

I know that the guys are all excited as I am and have been working really hard getting ready for the trip.

Funny...this trip started almost a year ago when Steve, Tony and I were in the truck headed for Broken Bow back in March of last year. We were talking about an extended trip to Mexico, and here we are.

Stay tuned!!

[Goat Trail Green]

Bike is almost ready

Bags are almost packed

I keep adding and removing things LOL

See everyone in a day or so !!!

Mike G

[FirstMan]

My bike is ready too, too bad I am not. Have fun and take pictures.

[XR650Rocketman]

It just about time for an "Adventure"!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adventure

Steve

[Photojojo]

Adventurous experiences create psychological and physiological arousal, which can be interpreted as negative (e.g. fear)

I have always been fond of saying that it's not an adventure unless at some point you are not having fun. I hope you guys have more fun moments than non-fun moments and all make it back with big smiles on your faces....oh yeah, and lots of pictures!

[irondawg]

The adventure has already started...here's an email I sent the gang yesterday....

So....

Today, Lupita's niece is flying in to Austin at 3:30 and she's going to pick her up. We're both a little worried since this is her first time flying and crossing the border by herself. We are hoping that all her paperwork is in order because if she doesn't come to Austin...I'm not going to Mexico.

I get a call at 2:30...it's Lupita. I've packed for nothing, she didn't make the flight. Lupita's upset and speaking fast in spanglish.

Me: Slow down...what's wrong?
L: Vanessa.......911......plastic.....niece (nose in spanish)
Me: What happened to Vanessa?
L: She has Lite Brite!
Me: What?
L: Plastic in her nose!
Me: Okay...Vanessa has Lite Brite in her nose?
L: SI!!!
Me: She put a Lite Brite peg up her nose.
L: Si! And I can't get it out so I called 911.
Me: Is she breathing? Is she blue?
L: Si...but I can't tell what color.
Me: Not the peg...her face...is it blue?
L: No. She's only crying a little. Okay, the ambulance is here.

She put's the phone down and I can hear the sirens outside. A little later I hear the EMT come in. I hear Vanessa saying hi and bye. Next I hear the EMT say she's gonna check V's nose with a light and wanted L to hold her. I hear a bunch of screaming and then the phone goes dead.

Two minutes later L calls me back and says everything is okay. Either V didn't have a peg up her nose or she swallowed it. Thank God everything's okay. I explain that it was okay to call 911 but if V was breathing, she should have called me first and then gone to the doctor. But, I understand since she's preggo and can't move that well plus the stress of her niece coming.

All I can think of is that's gonna be one helluv an expensive poop.

Hope everyone else's day is going good.

Cheers,

John

[fastmonstr]

Irondawg, did you not make the trip?

[FirstMan]

I think everyone who was going to make it made it. They are all in south west Texas right now. I spoke to Teeds earlier and he has been packing and repacking. Man, I had everything ready, new tires on the bike, Bags packed, but, while they were driving, I was getting cut on.

On Tuesday I found out that I had a good tear in my Meniscus, and need to be cut on soon, The Dr, said that if I went to MX, I might not come backon my own power. I went skiing last week and the knee was the size of a grape fruit, and that was a first for me. Anyhow, I had the surgery today, turns out not be to the meniscus, but the patella had a nice notch in the back, he cleaned it up and I now with the living again. I have moved my knee and do not feel the popping that was there before, but I will not know until I put some body weight on it. No pain yet, I am on vicodin, but I am also completely coherent, which means that I want to get out in the garage and do stuff on this time off. I am glad I rented movies since this brain is going crazy. Yall have a good evening. And everyone traveling, have fun, stay safe.

Adam

[mcrider]

Adam,
This is a good time to get a CTI knee brace on the insurance. I've had both knees operated on from skiing & got CTIs at that time. They measurer your leg & order the brace to fit. They also have a ski boot attachment, so the are double duty. Look at the CTI web site; I think it has the information

Guess we have just hijacked this thread, that's ok it is about to be dead. :giveup:

[FirstMan]

Thanks, I shall look into it.

To keep on topic, they should be in copper canyon right now. Lucky dogs.:rider:

Adam,
This is a good time to get a CTI knee brace on the insurance. I've had both knees operated on from skiing & got CTIs at that time. They measurer your leg & order the brace to fit. They also have a ski boot attachment, so the are double duty. Look at the CTI web site; I think it has the information

Guess we have just hijacked this thread, that's ok it is about to be dead. :giveup:

[CBAT]

Thanks, I shall look into it.

To keep on topic, they should be in copper canyon right now. Lucky dogs.:rider:
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: I am jealous.

[FirstMan]

I have an update. I am getting this third hand so no names because the indvidual I was getting this from was counfused by screen and real names. Someone slipped on ice the first day and hurt their knee, day 2 or 3, another bike down; rider okay. Both riders are going to take a train back across the border. Besides that drama, I think everyone is okay.

Good luck guys and I still wish I was with you.

[Greasemonkey]

Via cellphone ,another rider fell on the rocks and broke his w/pump cover.My drz cover should be airfreighted this morning to help out.Boy someone owes me big.Going by my shipping experience in Mex.,they should receive it by spring:rofl: ...Riders good ,just bummed by sittng out the ride.Hey oldbmw, what was that about an adventure!!!

[mcrider]

Does anyone know the final count of riders that went?

[FirstMan]

Does anyone know the final count of riders that went?

I belive they started out with 14.

[fastmonstr]

I just spoke with Steve's wife. Out of 14 riders they are down to 3. Everyone else is heading back on a train.

Irondawg's bike suffered a broken case and is not repairable. The were somewhere near Tammoro(sp?) and he is taking the train back to Presidio.

She said she had spoken with Teeds and he was the one with with the hurt knee. He was in Creel en route back to Presidio.

She said Steve, DRZwilsy(Ian) and Bill Neeley were going to continue on. She did say that Steve says the riding there was fantastic, better than Baja.

Linda was in hurry when I spoke with with her and had 3 lines ringing, so, I(she) might not have the facts 100 percent.

Sounds like and adventure to me!

[GetBent]

Wow! only 3 ot ouf 14.....thats crazy. I hope it Teeds heals quickly and can't wait to get the details.

[CBAT]

This should be an interesting report, for sure.

[FirstMan]

That is crazy.

[tx246]

well this is from 6 little indians that are still running and having a good time. one exotic, one antique, and some 3 hondas and a suzuki with a jeremy custom waterpump cover(thanks jb weld). at this point we are 800+miles with one beer per 10 mile average. one very cool birthday, lots of visiting with locals, 300+ pictures, private hotels that opened just for us (private canyon), and of course scenery and food that are great.

the sweep riders

me
ta2240
team swaney (2)
billyji
micah m.

more to come.........

[ta2240]

WOW! Where are you guys getting the info from? Only 4 left??

My Group has been together since day one and We have not left anyone behind. As a matter of fact we arranged for Teeds and Skinny to get back to the border via private truck. They seemed to have been abandoned by their group and needed some help after some unfortunate mishaps.

We, ta2240, teamswaney(with brother Jeremy) billyji, tx246 and Micah Morgan are having a blast. Just a little taste of what we have been through, today we had a drag race with the starting flagsman being a Mexican Army Captain. Micah busted his water pump case on day 3 and it was in 20 plus pieces. The JB Weld did wonders and since then we have done over 400 miles.

Did I mention the SOL beer,


More to Come!

[FirstMan]

Awsome guys, I knew you were real bikers. My best memories are not the perfect road, but being miserable, or helping other bikers. Sounds like you riding the exact ride I imagined.

Keep on having fun and I shall talk to yall when you get in!

[Greasemonkey]

Party on guys.That's what I like to hear.Ya'll take good care of Micah,I'm still minus some parts:lol2:

[FirstMan]

I have some more news via Teeds. He came across the border with Skinny last night. They are well.
Skinny's ignition died the first day, and Teeds hurt his knee in a low side/ high side/ low side S. He said that some accidents happen in slow motion, but this one never slowed down. His knee has fluid build up, but it isn't too bad.
Irondawg's chain must have broke, and his engine case broke. I think he is near the border, but his bike is on a train in Mexico somewhere. He is going back in to find it.
The 6 amigos are staying in $50 a night rooms living it up; riding every day in what some would call paradise.
And through the grapevine I heard that the 3-4 that kept on going, turned around and met up with the 6 amigos, but that wasn't confirmed.

The 6 amigos plan to get across the border Firday night and be back home Saturday, we will get he real stories then :rider:

[Greasemonkey]

I know everyone was worried about the trip and their bikes,kinda funny how the newest bike was the one with trouble.Skinny had that too fine new ride and the ign. died?Anyhow sounds like everyone is hanging in there.

[skinny]

I'm back at home and Teeds is in the motel in Presidio waiting for the survivors to arrive Fri. or Sat. We spoke with Iron Dawg about mid-night last night & he confirmed the broken case, so he's on the gimp express from Chihuahua. The rest of the story will have to wait until the remaining riders get back...anyone want to buy a really nice TE-610 cheap???:angryfire

[FirstMan]

anyone want to buy a really nice TE-610 cheap???:angryfire

$1500, I will come pick it up. Or, fix it up and I will still make it down there and we can finally ride together.;-)

[GetBent]

no need to instult the man, Adam. I will gladly pony up $1550.00:) Really though, glad to hear you made it okay. Hop teeds comes out okay.

[ta2240]

Well as of this moment we, teamswaney +2, Micah and myself are between Ozona and Comstock headed home. Rocketman, Hoop, Basebill and DRZWilsy are headed back to the border from Cuatomech to stay the night and then off to the Lost Trail.

Yesterday while driving through Chihuahua the rebuilt waterpump cover that Jeremy sculpted blew up from the pressure but luckily there was a new one waiting for us at the DHL terminal only a few miles away, BIG thanks to Greasemonkey:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

We did not want to be headed home today but Teeds called yesterday and told us that some severe weather was headed our way so we humped it all the way from Creel to Chihuahua. That ride stinks:giveup: :giveup:

I would post more but you guys will have to wait till we get home.

If you are really interested save up your vacation, teeds has a novel he is going post shortly. The funny thing is he was only involved in 2 days of riding. Sorry Tony but it is going to be alot of reading!!!!!

[Goat Trail Green]

I know everyone was worried about the trip and their bikes,kinda funny how the newest bike was the one with trouble.Skinny had that too fine new ride and the ign. died?Anyhow sounds like everyone is hanging in there.


Scott

What a friend

Thanks for the water pump cover !!

what a riot !!! :)

Mike Green