2006 TRH/Suzuki/AMA Terlingua Dual Sport Ride

[XR650Rocketman]

I'm really excited to anounce that the Trail Riders of Houston D/S ride we have all come to love and look forward to each year is back on for 2006....

The following is an excerpt from an email Burl Hughes sent out recently....

"The Terlingua ride is on for Nov 11/12 2006, as per the AMA magazine.

Steve Smith is Chairman of the ride this year.
email gstevensmith@msn.com
We will post the flyer with all information on the TRH website at www.trh-cycle.org by July 15 at the latest.
We will mail out postcards instead of the flyer this year. You can print the flyer from our web site, cut off the entry form, fill it out and mail your check in to the address provided before the cut off date and of course get your friends to do the same . Steve Smith was gracious in stepping up to do this event --there aren't many people I know that can do a good job but Steve is up for it.
All questions should be directed to Steve Smith at his email address listed herein. Steve will be using the same format as in past years and bring some fresh ideas for future rides."

As far as Burl's health he added....

"I am doing OK and hope to make it out for the ride--I will just hang out if I can go. Thanks!!"

Get your hotel, RV Park reservations made early.

Looking forward to everyone coming back this year.

Steve Smith

[Teeds]

IN !!!!!!!

Whoo Hooo!!

[chadleys1]

I am also IN!!
- I will be a first time attendee.
excellent.
:mrgreen:

[xrcajun]

I'm really excited to anounce that the Trail Riders of Houston D/S ride we have all come to love and look forward to each year is back on for 2006....

The following is an excerpt from an email Burl Hughes sent out recently....

"The Terlingua ride is on for Nov 11/12 2006, as per the AMA magazine.

Steve Smith is Chairman of the ride this year.
email gstevensmith@msn.com
We will post the flyer with all information on the TRH website at www.trh-cycle.org by July 15 at the latest.
We will mail out postcards instead of the flyer this year. You can print the flyer from our web site, cut off the entry form, fill it out and mail your check in to the address provided before the cut off date and of course get your friends to do the same . Steve Smith was gracious in stepping up to do this event --there aren't many people I know that can do a good job but Steve is up for it.
All questions should be directed to Steve Smith at his email address listed herein. Steve will be using the same format as in past years and bring some fresh ideas for future rides."

As far as Burl's health he added....

"I am doing OK and hope to make it out for the ride--I will just hang out if I can go. Thanks!!"

Get your hotel, RV Park reservations made early.

Looking forward to everyone coming back this year.

Steve Smith


Steve will everyone be staying at Terligua Ranch?

[XR650Rocketman]

No Jim....It's a little far out....You need to stay in Study Butte, closer to the action...
Ther will be lodging info on the flyer.

Steve

[Photojojo]

It's already on my big yearly wall calendar that hangs in the kitchen.

[ChrisWFO]

Is there someplace really nice to stay in Terlingua? Its likely my wife will want to accompany me to the DS ride in November and a spa would be a very good thing for her out there.

[XR650Rocketman]

Chris.....I'm guessing this may be your first trip to the area....Just teasing....There really is a very nice place to stay in Lajitas, about 17 miles down 170 to the West....Your wife would be very happy and pampered there....

Google Lajitas Resort for more info.

[ChrisWFO]

I've never been there before but htought there was a spa there. I Googled Terlingua and spa and found it. Sent a link to her work email address so she can see it tommorow. It looks like it will do just fine for her. Count me in for the ride. Been waiting years to be able to do this one.

[irondawg]

IN !!!!!!!

Whoo Hooo!!


DITTO!!! :rider:

[ChrisWFO]

Well, my wife really liked what she saw online of the resort at Lajitas, so we have reservations and now I'm really in for the ride.

[XR650Rocketman]

I didn't doubt for a minute that she'd like the look of Lajitas.....It's quite a place.....Welcome aboard...

Steve

[Photojojo]

Is there camping nearby that anybody knows of? Anybody else thinking of camping?

[XR650Rocketman]

Chris....Camping is available at the Big Bend Motor Inn, I think.....Check them out!

[Bandit33]

I will most likely be up for this ride. Love that area.

Chris..... there is a lot of camping in Big Bend Nat. Park, some of it hardcore outback camping and other spots like Chisos Basin and Cottonwood areas are a little more civilized. These areas would be a little ways from the Study Butte area but do have some cool roads to go back and forth on. There also appears to be camping in Lajitas and Study Butte, according to my map. Not familiar with it though.

Don

[Richard_]

I believe the Study Butte Motor Lodge offers camping sites.

[XR650Rocketman]

That's the one I'm talking about Richard....goes by the name Big Bend Motor Inn, pretty sure...

[Richard_]

Yeah, that's the name. I dorked it up. Sorry.

[Teeds]

I didn't doubt for a minute that she'd like the look of Lajitas.....It's quite a place.....
Steve

What is not to like about Lajitas ...

175 miles to the nearest WalMart
over 250 miles to the nearest mall
10 miles to La Kiva
My kind of place

Well, if the current owner would get bored and leave ...

[Photojojo]

What is not to like about Lajitas ...

175 miles to the nearest WalMart
over 250 miles to the nearest mall
10 miles to La Kiva
My kind of place

Well, if the current owner would get bored and leave ...

Don't forget the beer drinking goat.

One year during a mountain bike race there was a guy on the river that would take you and your bike across for $1 and you could ride the 30 mile trip to the nearest town in Mexico and eat at a resturaunt owned by the same people that own the hotel in Lajits. I heard it was pretty good.

[Goat Trail Green]

Have fun all

Adam and I committed in the spring to showing a huge group around Calyton with the Jeeps that weekend. If anything changes this will be the back up plan for sure.... what a bummer for us :)

Mike

[Teeds]

Don't forget the beer drinking goat.

One year during a mountain bike race there was a guy on the river that would take you and your bike across for $1 and you could ride the 30 mile trip to the nearest town in Mexico and eat at a resturaunt owned by the same people that own the hotel in Lajits. I heard it was pretty good.

You can not cross there any more. Since 9-11, the crossing has been officially closed. Unofficially, I have photos of trucks crossing the river when I was there last December.

We used to eat at Dos Amigos every year, but no more.

It will only get worse if the "close the border" crowd builds a fence.

[Tourmeister]

It will obviously be worth it when we are all safer...

[Teeds]

It will obviously be worth it when we are all safer...

I agree to a point.

I don't think a 2,200 mile fence will solve the problem. I do believe that we need to monitor the border, but they are already doing that. They know when we are on the lost trail.

They need to dial it up a bit though, as many folks are crossing the border at will between La Linda and Fort Hancock without worrying about getting caught (or at least not much).

The people in the area are clearly on edge, based upon one challenge to our presence there by one ranch owner, nevermind we respect private property and were on public ROW.

[Tourmeister]

I was being sarcastic ;-)

[Teeds]

I was being sarcastic ;-)

I kinda thought so ... but, we are both still correct.

[Photojojo]

I think we need to build a fence, I mean there are people that want to come into this country that actually want to work. Some of them might work harder and do a better job than me and that would make me look bad. I can't have that.

[Tourmeister]

No doubt they would not be off doing every single DS ride posted... :roll: :-P

[Outlaw6Guy]

I really wanted to meet some of you guys at the Terlingua ride this year, but I'm going to be in Washington DC for a reunion with the guys that I served in Vietnam with. Talked about mixed emotions, I love ridding, but I also love those guys, and don't want to miss the reunion. The same situation came up a few years ago, and I skipped out right in the middle of the reunion, and headed for Terlingua. Always felt a little guilty for jumping ship on those guys, so this year I guess I'll just hang out with old buddies, and drink lots of beer. It's a tough job , but someone's gotta do it!

[WoodButcher]

Based on a recent conversation with the wife, looks like I'm in. Steve, are you going to have an official signup/registration we need to do?

[mcrider]

an official signup/registration we need to do?
We (trh) are working on the flyer now & it will have an official entry form. We just need to firm-up sponsors. It will be posted on the trh web site (http://www.trh-cycle.org) Will advise when it is ready.

[mcrider]

The 10th Annual Terlingua Dual Sport Ride flyer is posted on the TRH web site (http://trh-cycle.org/). The number of riders may be limited & the pre-entry dead line is September 24th. Enter soon & often. Steve Smith (XR650Rocketman) is the trail boss this year. :clap:

[Teeds]

Enter soon & often.

Hee Hee ... so you guys know what a hanging chad is?

Chris: A question came up on Loud Sucks about the ride. Since this is going to be a AMA ride, will there be sound checks?

I just talked with my son. The sun WILL rise in the west tomorrow ... He is going to ride with the old man ... assuming I get him a DS ... I guess this means I will be putting lights on the KTM after we get back from the Lost Trail.

[mcrider]

Tony,

Dual sports are not classified as an off-road event, so no sound test is required. We do ask that all bikes to be as quite as possible to keep the peace with local residents.

[magus]

Well, my wife really liked what she saw online of the resort at Lajitas, so we have reservations and now I'm really in for the ride.

Had to follow the same strategy to make this happen for me - roughing it :trust: - but I'm really looking forward to the Ride!

[XR650Rocketman]

Well Magus.....Sometimes you just have to do what you have to do......I'm guessing you're staying at Lajitas also to keep the peace......The rider's meetings are scheduled for 7:30 am...The give aways are on Sunday morning....It's 17 miles from Lajitas to the rider's meeting so wake up early!!!!!

Get those registrations in ASAP....

[magus]

A long and sad story of doling out huge sums of money to keep my Wife either quiet or happy or something better than the alternative :giveup:

However, I think this event will be well worth it and if the bed is nice and comfortable, well, heck, sometimes you just have to throw in for the team...

Registration and more money on the way Steve - thanks for leading this!

David

[Tourmeister]

:tab Other than rooms filling up, is there a cutoff date for registration? I might have a shot at making this, but with the new kiddo only being a few months old, I will definitely have to play it by ear... Anyone else taking small kids? Anything for them to do out there while we'd be riding?

[magus]

Would someone be good enough to post some information for first-timers about what to expect in terms of weather/temperature at the event and recommend what gear to wear/bring for the ride? Much Appreciated.
David

[ChrisWFO]

Those of how are staying in Lajitas for the ride should get together and ride to Terlingua together on the mornings of the ride. I've never been out to that part of the state before so riding there will be a completely new experience.

[XR650Rocketman]

Would someone be good enough to post some information for first-timers about what to expect in terms of weather/temperature at the event and recommend what gear to wear/bring for the ride? Much Appreciated.
David

Check out page 2 of the TRH flyer.....It'll answer most of your questions.

[Greasemonkey]

Slow to respond[heat baked my head]but I'm in too.Can't wait to go again,might even bring wifey.I'll probably arrive wed. or thurs. and thought about cruising the river road to presidio[nice ride].
Scott G.:rider:

[teamswaney]

Hey glad you are going Scott, Jeremy and I need a ride this time, Hope Rita don't mind. How good are your tires ????

[Greasemonkey]

Anytime Roger.owe ya'll 1 or 2.Already have a room,but get in touch.Tires,yea thats funny.I still remember hangin out the window to see if the 3rd tire had gone flat yet,again .
Scott G.

[Greasemonkey]

Question.Will this be a roll chart deal or MAYBE a gps route.I don't have a roll chart holder.This could be anoth
er excuse to hit the cycle store.
Scott G.

[XR650Rocketman]

We'll have roll charts for sure....

[Bagwell]

I believe I am in too. I missed going last year.

Roll charts... Go to the big rock and turn left ... 2.4 miles to the Y ... stay left.... Go past old fire truck .... Go 4.6 miles... turn right at Tee :)

Fun directions heh

It really is fun. The riding and scenery are interesting.

Vaughn

[XR650Rocketman]

I believe I am in too. I missed going last year.

Roll charts... Go to the big rock and turn left ... 2.4 miles to the Y ... stay left.... Go past old fire truck .... Go 4.6 miles... turn right at Tee :)

Fun directions heh

It really is fun. The riding and scenery are interesting.

Vaughn


OK....No roll chart for you.....You already have the ride memorized.....Going to try a few new trails this year by the way.....I hope we can make it work out!!!!!

Steve

[Bagwell]

Hehe. I look forward to it. Thanks for taking on the dual sport duties this year. :)

Vaughn

[dualsportrider]

How technical is this ride. Do very many KLR people show up or mostly dirt bikes with street kits.

[XR650Rocketman]

How technical is this ride. Do very many KLR people show up or mostly dirt bikes with street kits.

A KLR with an experienced rider will be very much at home on almost all of this ride.....We've even had KLRs ride two up sometimes!!!!

Steve

[Bagwell]

a buddy of mine did it year before last on a BMW R100GS. He is pretty experienced, but he didnt have much problem. Just have to remember what you are riding. :)

[Larry_77084]

How technical is this ride. Do very many KLR people show up or mostly dirt bikes with street kits.

I did it 2 years ago on a KLR and I did the Dec ride on the same KLR. They are not the lightest thing there but me and a buddy rode them and had a ball. Neat thing is the predictable and usable power.

[rugerp_89]

For some reason my computer will not do the adobe reader thingy. So I have no way of printing the flyer and entry form. Does anyone know of another way.

[Photojojo]

I think if you have Yahoo, or gmail reading it as html is an option. You would have to save the file to your hard drive and then send it to yourself.

[mcrider]

For some reason my computer will not do the adobe reader thingy. So I have no way of printing the flyer and entry form. Does anyone know of another way.

Entry Form

[MIGHTYMOUSE]

Tony,

Dual sports are not classified as an off-road event, so no sound test is required. We do ask that all bikes to be as quite as possible to keep the peace with local residents.


It says on the flyer that a spark arrestor is required, are they real strict on that? My XC doesnt have one.

Thanks

[XR650Rocketman]

It says on the flyer that a spark arrestor is required, are they real strict on that? My XC doesnt have one.

Thanks

A Spark Arrestor is required......You really need to one to ride responsibly anywhere in the arrid South West!

Steve Smith

[Greasemonkey]

Know it's early but gettin my scoot in shape for the ride[hello swaney].I like planning and being prepped.Gearing up a little,new tires to go on before the ride and whatever goodies I can sneak by Rita.Who's going from the houston area?

[teamswaney]

Hello Scott.

[BajaRat]

Hello Roger !
:moon:

[Greasemonkey]

Hey Bajarat,that things been hanging out so much it looks sunburnt.You going to terl.?:trust:

[BajaRat]

Hey Bajarat,that things been hanging out so much it looks sunburnt.You going to terl.?:trust:

Not sunburned. Just monkey butt from LTR ride.

Yes, I am in for Terlingua Dual Sport Ride. :dude:

[Tekisasu DR]

Hi, All,

I am a first timer to join the event. Riding DR650. I have fun-ride level experience with smaller size dirt bike, so concerning DR650's weight.
Is the course pretty much flat dirt?

Steve,

I am the one corresponding via e-mail recently. Thanks for your advise.

Looking forward to seeing you all there.

Ken

[Teeds]

Hi, All,

I am a first timer to join the event. Riding DR650. I have fun-ride level experience with smaller size dirt bike, so concerning DR650's weight.
Is the course pretty much flat dirt?

Steve,

I am the one corresponding via e-mail recently. Thanks for your advise.

Looking forward to seeing you all there.

Ken

Ken:

Welcome to the ride. I will not say that the roads will not be a challenge, but they are doable on a DR650 for sure. Both Steve and I have XR650R's and I have never run across anything out there I cannot handle ... except for small gullies at the low point between two hills in a wash at a curve ... but that is another story. :doh:

Now taking my R to the SHNF would be another matter.

Be sure and get a roll chart holder for your bike, as we will have roll charts of the ride at signup. We will find someone good to team you up with.

[Tekisasu DR]

Thanks for the info, Teeds!

I just came back from SHNF. My bike still has stock tire. It was really hard to ride on the soft sand. Dropped it twice...

How hard rinding in Big Bend NF compare with SHNF?
What is your gear ratio strategy?

I already ordered TKC80 and heavy duty tube. Hope this is good enough.

Thanks!
Ken

[Teeds]

Thanks for the info, Teeds!

I just came back from SHNF. My bike still has stock tire. It was really hard to ride on the soft sand. Dropped it twice...

How hard rinding in Big Bend NF compare with SHNF?
What is your gear ratio strategy?

I already ordered TKC80 and heavy duty tube. Hope this is good enough.

Thanks!
Ken

Ken, my XR is way over geared which works well for desert ... I am running 15/45 and stock is 14/48 (if I remember correctly). Stock will be fine for the roads and the distances between gas stops.

I am not familiar with the TKC80, but any good quality intermediate terrain knobby will be fine. I run the Maxxis IT as does Steve and most of the folks I know. Others like the 606.

I would suggest heavy duty tubes front and back and slime in both. Start out with inflation at 18 rear and 20 in the front and you should not have any pinch flats. You can always bleed a bit out if needed.

[Tekisasu DR]

Hi, Teeds,

I assume XR650R has more power/torque than DR650 since it is racing model.
Your gear ratio is 3.0, stock DR650 has 15/42, which is 2.8. I will target 3.0+.

Continental TKC80 is said on-road 50%, off-road 50% tire. On the other hand, D606 is 10%/90%. I may need more aggressive knobby tire. Not much selection since DR650 has 17" wheel. Oh, well, I will try TKC for a while, and decide.

Thanks for so many info!

Ken

[XR650Rocketman]

Ken.....For Terlingua you really need full knobbies......Be sure to get tires rated for intermediate or hard terrain.....There are a lot of rocks out there.

Welcome to the forum by the way....

Steve

[Teeds]

Hi, Teeds,

I assume XR650R has more power/torque than DR650 since it is racing model.
Your gear ratio is 3.0, stock DR650 has 15/42, which is 2.8. I will target 3.0+.

Continental TKC80 is said on-road 50%, off-road 50% tire. On the other hand, D606 is 10%/90%. I may need more aggressive knobby tire. Not much selection since DR650 has 17" wheel. Oh, well, I will try TKC for a while, and decide.

Thanks for so many info!

Ken

Ken: I have a good friend that rode all over Terlingua Ranch on a 50/50 tire, so I would not really worry about it.

EDIT: That being said, I would go with the full knobby that Steve mentioned. Gene has been riding for 25 years and on the same bike for 15 of those.

Regarding the final drive ratio, I am not a mathematician, but I think you are multiplying when you should be dividing ...

Example using my XR gearing
14/48 = 3.42 (stock)
15/45 = 3.00

A 14 percent reduction

To get the same on your bike
15/42 = 2.8 (stock)

A 14 percent reduction would mean you would target 2.45 for your final drive ratio.

With that being said, stock will be fine for your bike. Steve just replied as well, but I have not had a chance to pull up his answer. He can likely shed some light on the situation for both of us.

[XR650Rocketman]

Ken: I have a good friend that rode all over Terlingua Ranch on a 50/50 tire, so I would not really worry about it.


With that being said, stock will be fine for your bike. Steve just replied as well, but I have not had a chance to pull up his answer. He can likely shed some light on the situation for both of us.

As per usual Tony can always steer you in the right direction....

My "Shed of light"....

Run Stock gearing until it's all worn out.....Then let's talk....After the D/S Ride....

As for Gene.....He could ride Terlingua on the rims if needed, not a typical sample rider to use as an illustration.....But....Given a choice he'd run full knobbies for sure...

Steve

[Tekisasu DR]

Tony & Steve,

Thanks for the info.

DR stock gear ratio is set for highway use. It is way more high geared than XR650L. I believe I need to do some work on it.

Regarding the tire, I will re-consider my selection. Does the tire need to be DOT approved type?


Thank you!
Ken

[Teeds]

Ken:

Steve and I are always more than willing to help!

To answer your question, no one is going to check your tires. The Dunlop 606 is DOT approved, my Michelin M12 definitely says "Not for Highway Use" (on my woods bikes), while the Maxxis IT says neither ... call it a loophole if you will, but that is one reason many of us run them. They wear like iron, are relatively inexpensive and we can get our bikes inspected with them on the bikes ... Well it doesn't say "Not for Highway Use" does it? :trust:

I am a severe disadvantage helps with gearing as I have never ridden a DR and do not know how tall the highway gears and, more importantly, the transmission is, in stock configuration.

Tony

[XR650Rocketman]

Tony & Steve,

DR stock gear ratio is set for highway use. It is way more high geared than XR650L. I believe I need to do some work on it.

Thank you!
Ken


Ken....You will not use first gear very often in Terlingua so I'd just not be concerned about gearing.....You'll be fine with stock gearing....

Steve

[mnapuran]

Well, sounds kinda interesteing. I don't see where they talk about length of the ride each day. Also, for having to drive so far to ride, pay for hotel, etc. I find it hard to spend $150 to ride the route. :doh:

[XR650Rocketman]

Well, sounds kinda interesteing. I don't see where they talk about length of the ride each day. Also, for having to drive so far to ride, pay for hotel, etc. I find it hard to spend $150 to ride the route. :doh:

Daily mileage 120 to 150 depending....
Entry fee includes two catered lunches, gas on the ride, riding jersey, roll chart, sweep riders etc..
Great guys to hang out with in one of the true last frontier spots in the USA.

Check out the flyer on the TRH web site....

Steve S

[Greasemonkey]

Trying again on any houston area riders going.Probably going earlier in the week[tue/wed].Probably riding some before the event.Coming home sun. after breakfast.It's hard to drive all night and put up with nonsence on the job mon.[nonsence is a pg word right].
Scott G.

[dbdolan]

Nope don't think I will be able to make this one:doh: looks like I will be going to a family reunion. I will try and catch it next year.

[Teeds]

Trying again on any houston area riders going.Probably going earlier in the week[tue/wed].May have room for a rider,probably riding some before the event.Coming home sun. after breakfast.It's hard to drive all night and put up with nonsence on the job mon.[nonsence is a pg word right].
Scott G.

Scott ... nonsense is about as PC as it gets ...

I am going to be there all week as I am attending an adobe conference in Presidio the previous weeknd, so ... you want to do the Terlingua Ranch, BBNP, Study Butte, N/S County Road Loop on Thursday? 208 miles of total fun? If so, I am soooooo in. We can play on other days as well. Dayum, the "Lost Trail" is only just up the block ... LOL ... :trust: Mmmmmm, that one would be 400 plus round trip ... not a bad "day" huh? Can you go 135 miles on a tank of fuel?

I am planning on riding sweep on the "official" ride days unless told otherwide, but, if not we can form up a group and splore the route.

[Teeds]

Nope don't think I will be able to make this one:doh: looks like I will be going to a family reunion. I will try and catch it next year.

Brian ... change the dates of the family reunion ... Terlingua will be worth it ... :trust:

[magus]

Tony & Steve,

Thanks for the info.

DR stock gear ratio is set for highway use. It is way more high geared than XR650L. I believe I need to do some work on it.

Regarding the tire, I will re-consider my selection. Does the tire need to be DOT approved type?


Thank you!
Ken

Ken - For what it's worth, I am in the same boat as you: DR650 with stock everything (currently) but I am probably even less experienced as an off-road rider than you (what me worry?). I am in the process of getting the rear spring replaced for something a little more capable of handling my 230 lbs than the gumby-like stock one.

I am also going ahead and putting on a 14 tooth front sprocket on the DR because everything I have read on other DR forums has recommended it for most types of off-road riding.

Oh and new tires as well :giveup: as I still have the dreaded stock "Deathwings" on their last leg and will follow the good advice here to get something considerably more dirt worthy.

Anyway, just kind of stumbling through all of this but pretty sure it is going to be a ton of fun even for a newb like me!

[Teeds]

magus: How about you and Ken making sure to track me down when you arrive? I will be around the table where the roll charts are handed out. I would be glad to make sure y'all enjoy this ride. Ask most anyone there, somebody will know where to find me. If I am not on sweep, we can ride together.

[magus]

magus: How about you and Ken making sure to track me down when you arrive? I will be around the table where the roll charts are handed out. I would be glad to make sure y'all enjoy this ride. Ask most anyone there, somebody will know where to find me. If I am not on sweep, we can ride together.

Thanks Tony - much appreciated. I will make a point to track you down ;-) and if we can ride some all the better!

David

[Teeds]

Thanks Tony - much appreciated. I will make a point to track you down ;-) and if we can ride some all the better!

David

Let's plan on it. I'm kinda slow and if my broken shoulder starts giving me fits, I may be slower.

It will still be fun.

Tony

[Greasemonkey]

Tony that sounds great[thurs].We'll keep in touch,yes I beleive 135 is possible since I ran 120,hit reserve,still lost in the boonies,no gas for miles,on3/4 tank this weekend.It's real frustrating when people buy property on an old road and fence it in.FOUND A TEN MILE trail[old old road] only to end up on someones porch.Try to contact them latter for permission.
Scott G.
P.S. You guys scrap the deathwings if all else

[magus]

I am not familiar with the TKC80, but any good quality intermediate terrain knobby will be fine. I run the Maxxis IT as does Steve and most of the folks I know. Others like the 606.


Tony

Is this the Maxxis model you're referring to?

--Maxxis M7304/M7305 Maxxcross IT Tire--

[Teeds]

Tony

Is this the Maxxis model you're referring to?

--Maxxis M7304/M7305 Maxxcross IT Tire--

David:

I'm don't remember the numbers, but the name is correct. Here is a direct link to the tire both Steve and I run ...
Maxxis Maxx Cross Intermediate Terrain (http://www.rockymountainatv.com/productDetail.do?prodFamilyId=3244&navTitle=Tires+and+Wheels&pageLinkUri=&webCatId=8&vehicleType=&priceRange=allPrices&webTypeId=139&brandId=161&navType=type)

I have bought a number of tires, and other goodies as well, from Rocky Mountain ATV (http://www.rockymountainatv.com/). They have always treated me well, shipping promptly et al. I haven't checked their prices lately, but they still have 100/110 - 18 for $44 and change which beat everyone the last time I checked.

Tony

[Tekisasu DR]

David and Tony.

It will be great to ride with you guys. I will make sure to track you down at the table.


David,

My tire, Continental TKC80, has not arrived as of Friday. It cannot be tested during this weekend, but my bike should be ready by next weekend.
Let me know your tire selection once you decided!

Thanks!
Ken

[okpc]

How many confirmed riders do we have?
okpc

[magus]

Thanks Tony - I think I will end up going with the Pirelli (P21?) tires (90/10) based on a rec. from a guy doing some work on the bike. Look forward to meeting you out there.

David


David:

I'm don't remember the numbers, but the name is correct. Here is a direct link to the tire both Steve and I run ...
Maxxis Maxx Cross Intermediate Terrain (http://www.rockymountainatv.com/productDetail.do?prodFamilyId=3244&navTitle=Tires+and+Wheels&pageLinkUri=&webCatId=8&vehicleType=&priceRange=allPrices&webTypeId=139&brandId=161&navType=type)

I have bought a number of tires, and other goodies as well, from Rocky Mountain ATV (http://www.rockymountainatv.com/). They have always treated me well, shipping promptly et al. I haven't checked their prices lately, but they still have 100/110 - 18 for $44 and change which beat everyone the last time I checked.

Tony

[XR650Rocketman]

Thanks Tony - I think I will end up going with the Pirelli (P21?) tires (90/10) based on a rec. from a guy doing some work on the bike. Look forward to meeting you out there.

David

David....Unless you've ridden many a mile in the desert on the Pirellis and/or know something we don't.......Here's my personal opinion.....Don't waste your money!!!!

You need tires specifically designed for desert type riding.....Get some Maxxis ITs or Desert ITs that way we won't be having to help you fix all the pinch flats you'll get riding the Terlingua D/S Ride....

Disclaimer goes here.......

I know there are a lot of tires that can run in the desert succesfully....I'm not intending to start any more disussion here....Just putting out my personal opinion as "Trail Boss for the 2006 Terlingua Dual Sport Ride".

End of disclaimer.....

Steve Smith

[Tekisasu DR]

Hi, Steve,

I have never been to BBNF. Could you advise me what "desert" is like?
Is it sandy? Packed?

Thanks!
Ken

[Teeds]

Ken:

To answer your questions about the roads and also add a bit regarding the tires as questioned by David ... I also don't want to get into a long winded debate about tires either.

Terrain:

Steve has not finalized the route as yet, so I will limit my comments to the roads I have ridden.

The roads will likely vary between graded smooth dirt and goat trails. If the county was to have some rain, they could also have some significant washouts to be dealt with. The surface of the road could be quite smooth or speed robbing bottomless gravel or sand. In many ways, this is the allure of riding desert terrain. It changes about as fast as your tire rolls over it. It changes at a speed determined by the rider and how fast he can analyze and adjust to the changing terrain. The roads of the ranch are the remains of an ambitious development that never quite happened. As such, many have not been visited by a road grader since they were originally laid out.

I am not trying to scare you or make you reconsider your decision to attend the ride. This is the PERFECT ride to test your experience on. As mentioned a few posts back, I will be glad to run at whatever speed feels safe and enjoyable to y’all. We may, and likely will, get passed by other folks, but this is not a race, and I don’t like racing in any case.

My thoughts on tires:

At speed, the edges of washouts, rock edges, and pointed rocks become the biggest enemy of tires. What do I mean about speed? I have seen pinch flats at 10MPH. It really begins to depend on the weight of the rider, the bike, the angle of attack, yada yada, so there is no pat answer. Desert tires have stiff sidewalls meant to ward off damage such as pinch flats.

On the most recent trip to West Texas, Steve had, if I remember correctly, three flats on the front of his bike. He still had the stock tire on the front of the bike, a mistake he said he will not make again.

There are other tires than the Maxxis we mentioned, the Dunlop 606 being one, that have been proven in the desert. I don't know anything about the Pirelli, so I will not comment on the specific tire, but I would look closely at the tires carcass thickness. Maxxis tires are a real pain to mount, but once on and encasing a set of Ultra Heavy Duty tubes with 8 (or so) ounces of slime, pinch flats should not be an issue.

Desert riding is all about reducing the variables to a manageable group. As an example, a Harley is a DS machine at 10MPH and a Honda XR650R is a DS machine at 100MPH. All the rest of us fall somewhere in the middle, regardless of the type of bike we ride.

[XR650Rocketman]

Hi, Steve,

I have never been to BBNF. Could you advise me what "desert" is like?
Is it sandy? Packed?

Thanks!
Ken

Thanks Tony.....

Hey Ken, I think Tony did justice to answering your question.
I smiled at your reference to BBNF.....The name is actually Big Bend National Park......No mention of "Forest" as in many other National Parks, mainly because to most casual observers there are no trees.....

Most of the D/S ride will be on graded gravel roads, ungraded natural material roads, natural river gravel and rock trails and maybe a little sand....Unless it rains and then some of the roads turn into 2 inch deep very slick "goopy stuff" that you can only ride with full knobbies....

The tire problem is one of pinch flats and cactus thorns....The wrong tires make for a horrible time.....I took a different bike on our last trip and forgot it had a Dunlop 735 on the front.....I suffered from pinch flats all weekend....I've since thrown that tire away....

Steve

PS.....If you've been to City Park in Austin.....It's like that but no trees and avery much bigger area....That also means the rock ledges are further apart and easier to ride up and down...

[magus]

David....Unless you've ridden many a mile in the desert on the Pirellis and/or know something we don't.......Here's my personal opinion.....Don't waste your money!!!!

Steve Smith

I told the mechanic I wanted the Maxxis, he said he couldn't get them but that the Pirelli was as good or better choice. 90/10 tire, heavy duty tube and slime - I need my bike back and didn't want to delay it any more over the tires.

[Teeds]

Doesn't it feel good when they have you trapped ... :headbang:

I'm sure it will be fine. We will know one way or another soon, not too soon though, because I need to get a lot of things done to my bike.

Now if my order will ever arrive ...

If you don't have a roll chart, you'll want to get one so you can follow the route.

[magus]

Yes, the frustration is beginning to seep through I'm afraid. Not sure why he couldn't get the Maxxis (!?!) but at some point you just have to say... well, we don't talk like that on this forum ;)

[mcrider]

I told the mechanic I wanted the Maxxis, he said he couldn't get them but that the Pirelli was as good or better choice. 90/10 tire, heavy duty tube and slime - I need my bike back and didn't want to delay it any more over the tires.

You will be ok. My '95 KTM RXC had Pirelli DS MT-21s on it all its life with me. It went to Terlingua four times & never had a flat. My 520 KTM had Pirelli dirt tires at Terlingua & a week in Mexico again with out a flat. When they got back from Mexico there was less than an 1/8 knob. The key is heavy duty tubes, slime & tire pressure. I run less tire pressure than most in rocky conditions, 20/18 psi. And don't ride like a banshee on the uphill with large sharp rocks.

[magus]

Thanks Chris. It's good to know there is some positive "real-world" experience with the tires. The guy woking on my bike is a very experienced off-roader/racer but that doesn't necessarily mean he's done the desert dual sport thing so it's good to hear.

David

[Teeds]

Yes, the frustration is beginning to seep through I'm afraid. Not sure why he couldn't get the Maxxis (!?!) but at some point you just have to say... well, we don't talk like that on this forum ;)

Doesn't it blow when they have you holding your ankles?

Chris has forgotten more than many (me for sure) will ever learn about bikes. I was figuring he would pipe in when the peanut gallery (me) stopped and left him a slot to jump in edgewise ... :rofl:

[Tekisasu DR]

Hey Ken, I think Tony did justice to answering your question.
I smiled at your reference to BBNF.....The name is actually Big Bend National Park......No mention of "Forest" as in many other National Parks, mainly because to most casual observers there are no trees.....


Oops...:doh:
I did not realize you guys do not count cactus... :giveup:



Thanks Tony & Steve for the input.
I guess I will prepare for the "goopy" condition with stiff side wall tire so that most would be covered.
Maxxis IT does not have right size for DR650, since it has 17" wheel. I will need to have a little more fun to debate for the best tire choice!

Ken

[Bandit33]

I am no expert, (many people remind me of that!!) but the Pirelli 21s I have used on my DRZ have done fine. They are very similar to the Dunlop 606, so I am told. I have done two full weekends of riding in the Big Bend area without any problems.... (knock on wood):rider:

Now, having said that, watch me go out in the garage later and find a flat tire......:lol2:

Don

[FirstMan]

I am no expert, (many people remind me of that!!) but the Pirelli 21s I have used on my DRZ have done fine. They are very similar to the Dunlop 606, so I am told. I have done two full weekends of riding in the Big Bend area without any problems.... (knock on wood):rider:

Now, having said that, watch me go out in the garage later and find a flat tire......:lol2:

Don

I would say with most tires it is all about tire pressure. I am sure with the Maxxis, you can run lower pressure due to side wall thickness.

I have very limited experience with dirt bikes, but with jeeps I can probably write a novel. And we do push the tires on the jeeps a little past the manufacturer's specs. ;-)

[Greasemonkey]

Adam are you guys going to BB.Hows the new beast in the stable.Bet it's a little lighter than the ,what was that thing again.
Scott G.

[FirstMan]

Adam are you guys going to BB.Hows the new beast in the stable.Bet it's a little lighter than the ,what was that thing again.
Scott G.

The weekend of this event seems to be a popular date. I have been asked to go to 5 diffrent events that weekend! But I comitted to a jeep trip last year for the 11th, so I am sticking to that one. Yall have a blast and don't get hurt.

Yeah, the new bike is lighter than the MZ, but the previous owner had it set up for motorcross more than DS, so I am making thoes adjustments.

[Greasemonkey]

Where's the folks going on the ride, it's quiet out there.Thinking of doing some pre riding,riding.Beach,Centerville,SHNF,we have options.November is getting near.

[Teeds]

Where's the folks going on the ride, it's quiet out there.Thinking of doing some pre riding,riding.Beach,Centerville,SHNF,we have options.November is getting near.

Terlingua will be my first outing ... I will not be cleared to ride until after the October trip to West Texas in October. :tears:

You'll have to go easy on me ...

I'm still up for the BBNP Loop on Thursday.

South County Road, North County Road, Terlingua Ranch Road, Marathon Road, US385, Dagger Flats Road, Old Ore Road, River Road, and Old Maverick Road = 208 miles the last time I rode the loop ... Whoo Hooo :rider:

A GREAT way to prepare for the Terlingua DS Ride!!!

[mcrider]

This is the last week to get your pre-entry mailed. Sunday the 24th is the cutoff. The ride is filling up fast better hurry. :eek2:

The entry form is above in this thread. (page 6)

[skinny]

Terlingua will be my first outing ... I will not be cleared to ride until after the October trip to West Texas in October. :tears:

You'll have to go easy on me ...

I'm still up for the BBNP Loop on Thursday.

South County Road, North County Road, Terlingua Ranch Road, Marathon Road, US385, Dagger Flats Road, Old Ore Road, River Road, and Old Maverick Road = 208 miles the last time I rode the loop ... Whoo Hooo :rider:

A GREAT way to prepare for the Terlingua DS Ride!!!

If anyone is planning a Big Bend trip before the Terlinqua DS ride, post up here so I can take the opportunity to flog the HP2...thats my planned ride for Mexico, but I want to get all the seat time I can to be sure that's the wise choice...

[Greasemonkey]

Hey Teeds,how will you be geared.I'm going stock but picked up a 15t front to hang with ya'll if needed.[I guess the 15 will fit?].Take it easy on you,yea right.Damaged or not you still scoot along pretty good.

[chadleys1]

Is camping a good idea for this ride?
Are the camp sites close enough to the action, so as not to miss anything?

I am a first timer to this ride and am really looking forward to it. I hope my pre-reg was not mailed too late!!!

I read that they will hand out roll charts at the ride(excellent) ,are there any GPS files for this route?

Thanks

[Teeds]

Hey Teeds,how will you be geared.I'm going stock but picked up a 15t front to hang with ya'll if needed.[I guess the 15 will fit?].Take it easy on you,yea right.Damaged or not you still scoot along pretty good.

Scott: I will likely be running 15/45 still as that is on the bike now and I doubt I will change it before we go. Don't worry about speed though.

[Teeds]

Is camping a good idea for this ride?
Are the camp sites close enough to the action, so as not to miss anything?

I am a first timer to this ride and am really looking forward to it. I hope my pre-reg was not mailed too late!!!

I read that they will hand out roll charts at the ride(excellent) ,are there any GPS files for this route?

Thanks

Can't give you any real input on camp, but there is an RV park there in Study Butte with showers etc. that is real nice.

There will be roll charts (unassembled) available for the ride, but no GPS logs. Bring scissors and tape!

[XR650Rocketman]

Hey Teeds,how will you be geared.I'm going stock but picked up a 15t front to hang with ya'll if needed.[I guess the 15 will fit?].Take it easy on you,yea right.Damaged or not you still scoot along pretty good.

Scott.....Stock gearing will be fine, but, if you get chance put on the 15 countershaft sprocket....It helps the bike work a little less....

Steve

[mcrider]

Is camping a good idea for this ride?
Are the camp sites close enough to the action, so as not to miss anything?

I am a first timer to this ride and am really looking forward to it. I hope my pre-reg was not mailed too late!!!

I read that they will hand out roll charts at the ride(excellent) ,are there any GPS files for this route?

Thanks

Camp sites are available at Big Bend Motor Inn, better call for reservation.

Not sure about your entry, you did not sign your post.

[XR650Rocketman]

Camp sites are available at Big Bend Motor Inn, better call for reservation.

Not sure about your entry, you did not sign your post.

That would be C L Childress, if I spelled it correctly Chris....

Steve

[chadleys1]

Thanks Rocketman, and thanks for the information you shared with me yesterday. I appreciate that.

mcrider, thanks for your reply. My name is Chadley Childress.

I got a camping reservation at the Big Bend Motor Inn tonight.

I was half a day late for the economy rooms at the Chisos Mining Co, but they took my information as a waiting list in case somebody pulls out.

They said they had a suite still open with a king size bed plus a double futon.

Oh well, I have good cold weather camping gear, I might as well use it.

Thanks for the help, and I look forward to meeting and especially riding with y'all and the whole group. I have been looking at pictures of the area and reading a lot of information about rare wildlife and birds that exist there.
This is going to be great. :rider:

-Chadley

[Bagwell]

Man, wish I could go. I was planning on it but things have come up. I will definitely make it next year tho.

Vaughn

[chadleys1]

Last week, they told me the small rooms were booked up at the Chisos Mining Co Motel in Terlingua. I gave them my information, and asked if I could start a waiting list in case something changes. Well, yesterday they called me back and now I have a reservation in the motel. Allright!

I swapped my Pirelli Scorpion A/T's for a set of Continental TKC 80's over the weekend. Those should be a little better in the desert.

Anybody feel like posting any advice for a first time desert rider with not much experience in the sand?

I know, get my weight back, and get on the throttle. haha

[XR650Rocketman]

Anybody feel like posting any advice for a first time desert rider with not much experience in the sand?

Chad, let me hook you up with a riding partner for the D/S ride.....Just following someone else can be a great learning experience in itself....We'll have a lot of riders really happy to share their skill and experience....Most guys remember when they were the "new guy" in the group....The ride is designed to be fun so don't get too stressed out about anything....

Steve

[Bagwell]

Tips:
Ride with someone and ride your own ride and make sure you are riding with someone with similar skill level or that will hang with you.

Stay up with or fall back behind folks if its dry and dusty otherwise you just get all dusty and look like rocky racoon

Take pleanty of water in your camelback or backpack or something

Top off your fuel tank and know how far you can go on a tank full

Be prepared for any weather condition could rain could be cold or hot and could be windy or somewhat still Take some kind of rain/wind/cold jacket or whatever maybe layers that you can take off or put on to adjust for conditions during the ride Things change during the day.

Have your bike in top shape A skid pan that is wide enough to protect your engine cases is a very good idea. Big rocks out there that like aluminum cases. :) Make sure your tires are good, heavy duty tubes, 20 lbs air in tires (what I run), spokes tight, tire repair kit and air, basic tool kit, I put a valve core remover on my valve stem so I could take out the stem if needed, duct tape, extra air filter or clean yours after the first day of riding and reuse next day, rejet your bike accordingly if you havent already they have some info on the flyer for the event. Make sure your license plate and inspection are mounted securely they do work their way loose if you dont watch em. Tighten up any bolts on the bike just to make sure everything is secure. Buy or bring your roll chart holder for the roll chart and have some scissors available and duct tape to put it together and put the roll chart in the roll chart holder

If you want to take a camera, think about just using a disposable camera. The environment is hard on electronics. heh

Have fun :)

Im sure there is more, but its late and I cant think heh

Im sure someone will fill in the blanks.

Vaughn


Last week, they told me the small rooms were booked up at the Chisos Mining Co Motel in Terlingua. I gave them my information, and asked if I could start a waiting list in case something changes. Well, yesterday they called me back and now I have a reservation in the motel. Allright!

I swapped my Pirelli Scorpion A/T's for a set of Continental TKC 80's over the weekend. Those should be a little better in the desert.

Anybody feel like posting any advice for a first time desert rider with not much experience in the sand?

I know, get my weight back, and get on the throttle. haha

[chadleys1]

Thanks Steve and Vaughn,

Steve,
That sounds great. I am good at that kind of learning.

Vaughn,
Excellent information, that is the kind of stuff I needed to know, and I appreciate it.

-Chadley

[Bagwell]

glad I could help. Forgot any sand info/help tho hehe

Vaughn

[mcrider]

Just a reminder, the pre-entry price is gone!

[XR650Rocketman]

Just a reminder, the pre-entry price is gone!


Thank you Chris.....We are already past the point where pre-registrations can be accepted....You are still welcome to join the ride but you will need to register at the event....Come join us......

Steve Smith

[XR650Rocketman]

Here's an update on the trail riding conditions as of October 12th 2006.

We just got back from a pre ride and roll chart check out and things are quite different from previous rides....The area has received a lot of rain this past year and there are many more washouts and ruts, mainly on the hills.
The Terlingua Creek crossing on the Saturday ride is currently at least a foot deep in water and filled bank to bank.
The open desert area South of Hwy 170 where we enter Wells Creek has 4 foot tall grass everywhere along with every kind of sharp spiney growth you can imagine.
A few roads have been graded since the 2004 ride but most have not.

In general conditions are just perfect for a Dual Sport Ride.

Don't even think of coming out without "8 oz of Slime in each tire and 20 PSI up front and 18 PSI in the rear.

Come on November!!!!

[magus]

In general conditions are just perfect for a Dual Sport Ride.



Sounds great! Now if I only had a bike to ride... Sold the DR and now I have to find something else... Bike buying...:mrgreen:

[Greasemonkey]

After about 600mi of orientation on the pig I think we're ready to go.Can't wait.Kinda making it a small vacation for me and the boy.Tony,don't think we'll be able to do wed. but looking forward to thurs. if it's good for you.

[skinny]

Here's an update on the trail riding conditions as of October 12th 2006.

We just got back from a pre ride and roll chart check out and things are quite different from previous rides....The area has received a lot of rain this past year and there are many more washouts and ruts, mainly on the hills.
The Terlingua Creek crossing on the Saturday ride is currently at least a foot deep in water and filled bank to bank.
The open desert area South of Hwy 170 where we enter Wells Creek has 4 foot tall grass everywhere along with every kind of sharp spiney growth you can imagine.
A few roads have been graded since the 2004 ride but most have not.

In general conditions are just perfect for a Dual Sport Ride.

Don't even think of coming out without "8 oz of Slime in each tire and 20 PSI up front and 18 PSI in the rear.

Come on November!!!!


I cleaned out a path about 3 ft. wide on my HP2, so the rest of you should be able to follow my trail blind-folded...also left a large divot exiting Terlingua Creek...::mrgreen: :flip:

[chadleys1]

I cleaned out a path about 3 ft. wide on my HP2, so the rest of you should be able to follow my trail blind-folded...also left a large divot exiting Terlingua Creek...::mrgreen: :flip:

Oh Yeah:rider: !!

...can't wait.

[Stromboy]

Hey Steve,
Are you still planning to ride out to Cedar Springs Ranch? I'm going out the last weekend of this month. I'll give you an update on the roads out there when I get back if you are still planning to ride out that way.

Randy

Here's an update on the trail riding conditions as of October 12th 2006.

We just got back from a pre ride and roll chart check out and things are quite different from previous rides....The area has received a lot of rain this past year and there are many more washouts and ruts, mainly on the hills.
The Terlingua Creek crossing on the Saturday ride is currently at least a foot deep in water and filled bank to bank.
The open desert area South of Hwy 170 where we enter Wells Creek has 4 foot tall grass everywhere along with every kind of sharp spiney growth you can imagine.
A few roads have been graded since the 2004 ride but most have not.

In general conditions are just perfect for a Dual Sport Ride.

Don't even think of coming out without "8 oz of Slime in each tire and 20 PSI up front and 18 PSI in the rear.

Come on November!!!!

[XR650Rocketman]

Randy.....We will be completing our pre ride on the Ranch on the 26th and 27th of October, before the Quail season starts.....We'll stop by and see if you're there.....

Steve

[Stromboy]

That's great Steve. I'll be there on the 27th. If I'm napping make some noise & wake me up. Cedar Springs Road has been graded all the way up to the house. Don't know how much rain theyv'e had though since they finished.

See you next week!
Randy

[griffin515]

all you need in Lajitas is lottsa $$$$$ very nice place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't miss the La Kiva in Study Butte.
Griffin

[Bagwell]

Someone pee in the cauldrin for me. :)

[skinny]

Randy.....We will be completing our pre ride on the Ranch on the 26th and 27th of October, before the Quail season starts.....We'll stop by and see if you're there.....

Steve

Here is my new ride for Mexico...I decided the HP2 was a little ponderous for the really ugly stuff, and the DRZ is too short of horsepower, so I went to Lubbock and got a new TE610...
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m5/seseaton/TE610-1-1.jpg


Let me know what the plan is for Fri. and Sat. I might be able to make it for Saturday if you're planning on a full day's ride...

[Teeds]

Dang Skinny ... Can I ride your leftovers?

That is one sweet ride for sure. I have had a hankering for a Husky since the days of red metal tanks ...

Scott, things changed for me as well as I missed the deadline to play in the mud and make adobe bricks, so I will be arriving on Wednesday as well. Let's plan on a loop for thursday or Friday ... or both.

[Greasemonkey]

Nice ride skinny...Tony couldn't commit to early wed. but will be in the area,ready for whatever after that....Let me know...

[Teeds]

Nice ride skinny...Tony couldn't commit to early wed. but will be in the area,ready for whatever after that....Let me know...

Assuming you are arriving on Wednesday evening early enough that y'all are not wiped out, lets plan on the BB loop for Thursday and we can do something short on Friday.

[Greasemonkey]

Sounds perfect...Can't wait,bikes are good,mostly packed.Don't get to play out there like you guys.Probably headin to N.M at christmas, may see about some map help...

[XR650Rocketman]

Sounds perfect...Can't wait,bikes are good,mostly packed.Don't get to play out there like you guys.Probably headin to N.M at christmas, may see about some map help...

OK Scott....I'm confused.....Are you guys talking about the weekend of the November D/S ride or some other time?

Steve

[Teeds]

OK Scott....I'm confused.....Are you guys talking about the weekend of the November D/S ride or some other time?

Steve

I'm talking about the Wednesday before the DS ride. I hope that is what he is talking about.

[XR650Rocketman]

I'm talking about the Wednesday before the DS ride. I hope that is what he is talking about.

That's what I'm thinking he's talking about!!!!

Steve

[ta2240]

I'm talking about the Wednesday before the DS ride. I hope that is what he is talking about.

Is that the Terlingua Dual Sport Ride or another Dual sport ride that is in November. You guys are confusing. I am not going on either but for us readers you need to make sure you clarify to make it easy reading.

I quit!:giveup:



:lol2:

[irondawg]

I think that's the pre-ride after the pre-pre-ride before the actual ride....I think.

My brain just went all oogy on me. :drool: :twitch:

[ta2240]

I think that's the pre-ride after the pre-pre-ride before the actual ride....I think.

My brain just went all oogy on me. :drool: :twitch:

Thats what I was thinking. Thanks for the clarification John:lol2:

[Greasemonkey]

Now I'm confused.If Tim can't figure it out we're all in trouble!!!!Yes i'm heading up early the week of the terl. ride to play around.Teeds and my gang [my boy&me]just doing a little pre-ride.Don't have a room until thurs. so thats when i'm officially there...Been watching the news,do we need to bring paddles or pontoons?

[Teeds]

Been watching the news,do we need to bring paddles or pontoons?

Yes, but we will know more about trail conditions after this riding again this week.

[irondawg]

Crossing Terlingua Creek will be interesting since there was plenty of water in it two weeks ago.

Tony...stay on the upstream side of the bank. The mud is deeper on the downstream side...or is it the other way around ;)

[Teeds]

Crossing Terlingua Creek will be interesting since there was plenty of water in it two weeks ago.

Tony...stay on the upstream side of the bank. The mud is deeper on the downstream side...or is it the other way around ;)

That is what I like ... decisive answers.

[Outlaw6Guy]

Since I can't make the Terlingua ride this year, anyone in the Dallas area wanna volunteer to pick me up a couple of the event Tee-Shirts,purty please?

[Bagwell]

I believe they make just enough for the attendees. If I am not mistaken
I dont think they are for sale, just included in the sign up.

Vaughn

[chadleys1]

Anyone want to carpool from the Austin area?

I have not finalized plans as to how I am going to get there.
I have Friday the 10th off from work, and if I have to, I can take Monday off, too.

I can make it out there with my Husky in the back of my old beat up Ford pickup, but I might play it safe with a rental of some sort.

If someone local is trailering I would be happy to pay for gas.

See y'all out there, one way or another. :rider:

[Outlaw6Guy]

I believe they make just enough for the attendees. If I am not mistaken
I dont think they are for sale, just included in the sign up.

Vaughn

Don't know about that? Two years ago, I bought two extra Tee-Shirts at the ride? Anyone know who to contact about buying some shirts? Is Burl still the man?

[irondawg]

Don't count on any extra tee shirts this year. Last count of pre-registers was over 135.

[mcrider]

Since I can't make the Terlingua ride this year, anyone in the Dallas area wanna volunteer to pick me up a couple of the event Tee-Shirts,purty please?

The shirts are for entered riders only. They will not be for sale. That's why we try to get everyone to pre-enter.

By the way STOP :nono: sending entries to me. I leave for the ISDE in New Zealand Saturday & your entry is going to be in my mail box until after Thanksgiving. You are going to be in Terlingua saying you pre-entered & Steve is not going to believe you. You will have to re-enter. :eek2:

Y'all are going to have a great time. Steve (XR650Rocketman), Tony (Teeds), Gary (bajarat), Tim (a newbie local), Steve (Skinny) & rode both days plus around 60 miles that you will not see Thursday thru Saturday. :rider: 400 miles of bad roads, I love it. :sun: We (Texans) have some of the best riding in the world.

Y'all that miss it :headbang: :sleep:

[XR650Rocketman]

Y'all are going to have a great time. Steve (XR650Rocketman), Tony (Teeds), Gary (bajarat), Tim (a newbie local), Steve (Skinny) & rode both days plus around 60 miles that you will not see Thursday thru Saturday. :rider: 400 miles of bad roads, I love it. :sun: We (Texans) have some of the best riding in the world.

Y'all that miss it :headbang: :sleep:

Did he say "some of the best riding in the world".....That's quite a statement from mc_rider!!!!!

Steve

[Bagwell]

Man, wish I could go. Next year for sure tho.

Vaughn

[Tekisasu DR]

OK.
Put D606, heavy tube, slime, front 20# and rear 18#.
Almost ready.

[Teeds]

I've been working on my bike all day ...

Top triple clamp, steering stabilizer, new bars ... done
Road Book holder mounted / dash reorganized ... done
Rear subframe ... done
Chain / sprockets ...
New chain guard ...
Change oil ...
Remount rear rack ...
Remount seat ...
Remount tank ...

Arrgggghhhh ... I need a cold beer, I'm out and I am too dirty to go to the store ... :doh:

[Photojojo]

Arrgggghhhh ... I need a cold beer, I'm out and I am too dirty to go to the store ... :doh:

I have some here, come and get it.

[Teeds]

I have some here, come and get it.

Hello Chris ... Long time no hear ...

I would love to come up, but I have too much stuff to do on the bike ... You come down here ...

The weather appears to be perfect this coming weekend.

Saturday
11/11/2006 Sunrise: 7:13 am UV Index: 6, High Sunset: 6:00 pm
Moonrise: 11:53 pm Phase: Waning Gibbous Moonset: 1:09 pm
Sunny. Highs in the mid 70s and lows in the mid 40s.

Sunday
11/12/2006 Sunrise: 7:14 am UV Index: 6, High Sunset: 5:59 pm
Moonrise: 11:59 pm Phase: Waning Gibbous Moonset: 1:43 pm
Sunshine. Highs in the low 80s and lows in the mid 40s.

[Photojojo]

Hello Chris ... Long time no hear ...

I would love to come up, but I have too much stuff to do on the bike ... You come down here ...

The weather appears to be perfect this coming weekend.

Saturday
11/11/2006 Sunrise: 7:13 am UV Index: 6, High Sunset: 6:00 pm
Moonrise: 11:53 pm Phase: Waning Gibbous Moonset: 1:09 pm
Sunny. Highs in the mid 70s and lows in the mid 40s.

Sunday
11/12/2006 Sunrise: 7:14 am UV Index: 6, High Sunset: 5:59 pm
Moonrise: 11:59 pm Phase: Waning Gibbous Moonset: 1:43 pm
Sunshine. Highs in the low 80s and lows in the mid 40s.

Yeah I know I've been pretty busy. This is the time of year when I have football, baseball, and basketball all going on at the same time. I can work pretty much every night now except Monday's and that's not a given.

On the plus side I finally got my chain and sprockets and will be riding again soon.

Have fun and hit a road berm for me.

[XR650Rocketman]

Hey Chris.....You are conspicuous in your absence.....As in....We miss ya....

Steve

[Photojojo]

I miss y'all to...I get a whole new batch of vacation in February....where we going?

[ChrisWFO]

I have a couple questions about the ride. Will the stock tank on my XR650L hold enough fuel for the rides each day? I know there will be a gas stop, I just want to make sure I have enough range with the stock tank. About what time will the ride be done each day (wife wants to know when I will be available for other activities)? How many miles per day?

[Tourmeister]

I wish everyone a safe and great trip! I would love to be going, but that just isn't in the cards for me right now, especially in light of our recent accident. I expect LOTS of pics and story telling ;-)

[Teeds]

I have a couple questions about the ride. Will the stock tank on my XR650L hold enough fuel for the rides each day? I know there will be a gas stop, I just want to make sure I have enough range with the stock tank. About what time will the ride be done each day (wife wants to know when I will be available for other activities)? How many miles per day?

Chris:

I don't know the stock tank size of the L, but if you can go 60~80 miles between gas stops you should be good. I think the longest distance we laid out, is just less than 60 miles.

As far as when it ends, that depends on how determined you are. Each day is approximately 150 miles assuming you follow the entire route. There are bailout options on each day that will allow folks to shorten the loops after lunch.

Be sure to slime your tires, bring a roll chart holder and team up with a group and you should be fine.

[Greasemonkey]

Last chance Tim!!!!! Anyhow leaving out this evening to the wildwest,will probably be in studde butte late weds....See ya'll there...

[Teeds]

Last chance Tim!!!!! Anyhow leaving out this evening to the wildwest,will probably be in studde butte late weds....See ya'll there...

Tim did sound sad yesterday ... he doesn't seem to want to talk about it ... :-P

Dang Scott, your leaving early enough to be in LA by "late Wed". I am hoping to get out by noon tomorrow, which will get me there by about 9:00 PM.

[magus]

About what time will the ride be done each day (wife wants to know when I will be available for other activities)? How many miles per day?

Chris - just make sure she fills up her days with massages - you won't have any energy left for "other activities" anyway :trust:

[XR650Rocketman]

I have a couple questions about the ride. Will the stock tank on my XR650L hold enough fuel for the rides each day? I know there will be a gas stop, I just want to make sure I have enough range with the stock tank. About what time will the ride be done each day (wife wants to know when I will be available for other activities)? How many miles per day?

Chris don't sweat the gas, you'll be fine.
You'll be free for dinner with your wife on Saturday and you should be finished riding around 2 on Sunday.

Steve Smith

[Greasemonkey]

Tim did sound sad yesterday ... he doesn't seem to want to talk about it ... :-P

Dang Scott, your leaving early enough to be in LA by "late Wed". I am hoping to get out by noon tomorrow, which will get me there by about 9:00 PM.
Stopping in ciudad acuna,checking on some family property in pecos and whatever else I can squeeze in.Ready for a break if you know what I mean...

[chadleys1]

This is a last call to see if anyone wants to team up for the ride out to Terlingua. I will pay for the gas if you can haul my bike and me from Austin on Friday.
That is a pretty good deal, no?
:-P
I will see y'all out there. I am sure my old truck will make it, but it won't be fun. hahaha :rider:

[chadleys1]

I really appreciate your offer DRZ400eagle, but I got the message too late.
I rented a big red crew cab Dodge and made the trip in style.

The riding was AMAZING!

HUGE thanks to Steve Smith, Burl, Teeds, and ALL those that helped put together and run that great dualsport ride!!!

I had such a great time, I will have to post more ramblings and photos later, when I am not so worn out.

I made it home at 1AM and it is time to crash.

-My Favorite Ride Ever.... so far

[Teeds]

I started a thread in the after action reports here (http://www.twtex.com/forums/showthread.php?p=179397#post179397)

[mcrider]

I miss y'all to...I get a whole new batch of vacation in February....where we going?

Chris, you can go to Costa Rica. We have room for one more. Thread (http://www.twtex.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12860)

[schizo]

Will this ride be happening again this year?

Thanks,
Matt L.
www.biketexas.net

[Richard_]

Will this ride be happening again this year?

Thanks,
Matt L.
www.biketexas.net

Matt,

Yes. Here's the link to the thread on this forum: 2007 TRH DS Ride (http://www.twtex.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17453)