Cycleport Kevlar Jacket/Pants [Archive]

d2mini

10-23-2006, 03:29 PM

I've had my jacket for a while but have been waiting for a few months for my pants to arive. I finally got them and thought I'd take a few pics and give you my thoughts. I bought the jacket with the rain liner and the quilted liner and also got the liner for the pants. For those that don't know, Cycleport (previously Motoport) makes custom pants and jackets out of stretch and mesh kevlar. I went with the mesh since the majority of riding around here is hot hot hot. The jacket I've worn in the nineties and found it flowed as much air as my lighter mesh jacket. The only reason I would still grab the other jacket in the hottest temps is that it is waist length, and usually that's just for short distances. Hold this stuff up to the light and it's see-through. The abrasion resistance is better than leather. Construction is top notch, styling is subjective. Want more pockets, different colors, reflective striping.... tell Wayne and he can usually hook you up or at least explain why he can't. The downside to all this is that the wait is usually 10-12 weeks. My pants took the full 12 but the jacket they had in stock in my size. They do small runs of the jackets in limited colors so unless you have monkey length arms or your name is Paul Bunyan they may have your size in stock.
So here we go....

Here is me just chillin, waiting for my bro to take the pic. Oh, and please excuse the fact that i didn't realize the upper part of the main zipper flap wasn't closed correctly. Messy messy.

http://d2creative.smugmug.com/photos/102410708-O.jpg

Here I am looking yonder. Notice that the suit doesn't restrict line of sight or viewing angle. You will also notice that the waist straps on the jackets provide lots of adjustability and allow you to not lose the all important hand rest when looking yonder.

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Here I felt it was important to show the optional reflective stripe. This was taken on a bright sunny day with no flash and it still looks reflective.

http://d2creative.smugmug.com/photos/102410751-O.jpg

This one's for the ladies.

http://d2creative.smugmug.com/photos/102410790-O.jpg

Let's see that one again up close... :twisted:

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And last but not least, here is me showing how there is plenty of room for uh.... adjustability. Not to be mistaken for feeling cramped because that is not the case.

http://d2creative.smugmug.com/photos/102410822-O.jpg

Ok, seriously... this stuff is great. Call me kevlar man, but I feel protected now. I do a lot of freeway riding and even the back roads have me going 60-80mph at least. Right now everything is a little stiff but I'm hoping that things will soften up a bit with more use. Lots of zippers, velcro, pockets and padding. Everything is very well thought out. Lots of airflow when moving. The jacket with no liner was too cool for me in the low-mid 70's. Today it was around 70 degrees and I put in the rain liner and it felt perfect. The pants are made to fit by sending them a pair of your favorite jeans and making some measurements while sitting on the bike for pad placement. I was a little worried doing this through the mail but everything worked out perfectly. I can where the pants over my regular jeans or with just underwear and the fit feels good both ways. I have not tried the pants with the liner yet. The pants are very easy to get on and off with boots on. All in all I am very pleased. Any niggles I have are trade offs for the protection. If I am just scooting around town I'll take one of my lighter waist length jackets. But if I'll be doing freeway or any kind of distance, Cycleport all the way.
The jacket was in stock in my size and color choice and the pants had to be custom ordered. www.motoport.com
Talk to Wayne, he's a real nice guy and he can answer all your questions. Give him a call. He also answers emails every morning and he can send you high res pics.
So that's about all i can think of off the top of my head. If you have any questions, let me know. :sun:

FlyonWall

10-23-2006, 05:00 PM

:thumb: Thanks Kevlar Man for posting a thorough product review.

Really enjoyed the pics and narrative...:lol2:

cmcnamee

10-25-2006, 07:22 PM

I can't say enough good things about the Motoport products and people. I've had their Cordura version of the same pants for about six years now. I invested in both their rain liner and the winter/waterproof liners also and they have been great. The winter liner keeps me warm on my Futura down to about 30 degrees and the waterproof liner has never leaked. The next time I need a jacket, Motoport will be towards the top of my list of vendors.

As for service, after about five years the pants split a seam. I sent them in for repair and they went far beyond what I was expecting. Not only did they repair the seam, they also defuzzed the pants, replaced all the velcro, and replaced the pocket covers that had frayed. To say the least, I was really impressed when the pants came back. The folks at Motoport get 4 stars in my ratings.

Carl

leekellerking

10-25-2006, 07:55 PM

cmcnamee

10-26-2006, 08:22 AM

Unfortunately, Motoport/Cycleport is for sale, according to what I saw in a different forum.

You got a spare 1.5 mil?

http://www.acquireo.com/business-for-sale/2924.aspx

Lee

Oh... That's a bummer. But, it doesn't necessarilly indicate a change for the worse. A new owner could do wonders for the company! I've had problems with their lack of advertising for quite some time. And, yes, I'm an optimist at heart.:sun:

Carl

leekellerking

10-26-2006, 08:42 AM

Oh... That's a bummer. But, it doesn't necessarilly indicate a change for the worse. A new owner could do wonders for the company! I've had problems with their lack of advertising for quite some time. And, yes, I'm an optimist at heart.:sun:

Carl

Yea, me too -- just call me Pollyanna. Maybe a new owner can pump some capital into the business. I really wish I had the money or the financing, though.

Lee

Tx White Knight

11-13-2006, 06:23 PM

Unfortunately, Motoport/Cycleport is for sale, according to what I saw in a different forum.

I Just talked to Wayne about the Ultra II stuff and I asked about this and he said it is no longer on the market but he is looking for a partner to invest in Motoport.

Dang my Christmas list is getting long and expensive :eek2:

leekellerking

11-14-2006, 08:01 AM

I Just talked to Wayne about the Ultra II stuff and I asked about this and he said it is no longer on the market but he is looking for a partner to invest in Motoport.

Dang my Christmas list is getting long and expensive :eek2:

That is good to hear. I hope he finds a good partner. But in the meantime, his web site is down. 8-(

Tx White Knight

11-14-2006, 04:34 PM

his web site is down. 8-(

It is up now, he said the called the web host first thing monday but when I called about 5 on monday he had not heard back from them

Tourmeister

11-14-2006, 05:24 PM

So the Motoport/Cycleport company is still in business right? Is he looking to get out by selling or just trying to bring someone in to help? A seven year warranty is meaningless if the company won't be around to honor it. I would love to order one of these suits to replace my recently trashed gear, but I am a bit leary at the moment.

leekellerking

11-14-2006, 05:34 PM

It is up now, he said the called the web host first thing monday but when I called about 5 on monday he had not heard back from them

Ya, the site is back up. Probably nothing.

I really want to get some of their Kevlar gear when I can afford it.

Lee

Tx White Knight

11-14-2006, 06:14 PM

So the Motoport/Cycleport company is still in business right?

Yep still in business, when we talked for a bit he said that several years ago the business got flooded and they lost everything, inventory, machines, puters and severe damage to the building. They got the business up and going but the insurance would not pay so they had to sue them, well the legal process took several years and creditors got upset with them as they were out on a limb. Glad to say they won the legal battle so they took the company off the market but would still like to have a business partner. Custom orders will still take up to 12 weeks for those of us with short legs and big *** :lol2:

Hmmm what I want is a bit over 1K, would that make me a partner?? maybe not but it would make me happy :sun:

leekellerking

11-14-2006, 10:34 PM

Yep still in business, when we talked for a bit he said that several years ago the business got flooded and they lost everything, inventory, machines, puters and severe damage to the building. They got the business up and going but the insurance would not pay so they had to sue them, well the legal process took several years and creditors got upset with them as they were out on a limb. Glad to say they won the legal battle so they took the company off the market but would still like to have a business partner. Custom orders will still take up to 12 weeks for those of us with short legs and big aiss :lol2:

Hmmm what I want is a bit over 1K, would that make me a partner?? maybe not but it would make me happy :sun:

Yea, that's the ticket! Can he sell stock without going public?

I'd buy a few shares.

Lee

Tx White Knight

11-14-2006, 10:48 PM

Can he sell stock without going public?

I am not sure, I dont know how stocks work but I do hope to support them :rider:

fogllama

12-04-2006, 02:02 PM

I did my part by buying the mesh jacket and pants. I have weirdly long arms, so custom gear is not a foreign idea to me. I am impressed by the speed of getting the gear made and shipped to me. I am having the knee armor adjusted (I ignored some advice and was wrong) so don't have the pants right now. I wore my hi-viz jacket on a 1500 mile jaunt to Alabama and Florida (during the cold before Thanksgiving) and can report that the liners (plural) work. On the return from Florida, I started out with all the liners. Somewhere in Louisiana I pulled the quilted one, and finally in Tyler I pulled the Goretex, finishing the trek with just mesh. It is a very versatile jacket.

Tourmeister

12-04-2006, 03:03 PM

When did you place your order?

Did you ask them anything about the future of the company with it being for sale? A long warranty means nothing to me if the company is gone...

TexBiker

12-04-2006, 03:19 PM

Did you ask them anything about the future of the company with it being for sale?

The post above (TxWhiteKnight) states the company is no longer for sale since they won the lawsuit against their insurance carrier.

leekellerking

12-05-2006, 08:47 AM

The post above (TxWhiteKnight) states the company is no longer for sale since they won the lawsuit against their insurance carrier.

:clap:

"Nothing I like better than putting it to a big insurance company."

sherob

12-05-2006, 09:44 AM

I have the kevlar mesh II jacket with the liner(hi-viz yellow/green)...CAN YOU SEE ME NOW!?! :rofl: This is the nicest jacket I've ever had on :sun: Still saving up for the pants.

While attending WeSTOC in Golden CO, one of my buddies lowsided his ST... he has the jacket and pants... not a scratch on him... a little tear on the jacket.

I replaced 2 jackets with my Cycleport... great during he summer... very warm so far with the liner :clap:

I looked at Stich... just to hot for Houston climate to me.

Wayne is a very patient fellow and will take his time making sure your order is correct.

Tourmeister

12-05-2006, 03:57 PM

Hmm... might be time to take the plunge...

tjbrandt50

12-05-2006, 05:26 PM

Just placed my order last week for stretch kevlar Riva AX jacket and Ultra II overpants. Mr. Boyer's assistant had told me manufacturing times were running about eight weeks this time of year, so I should have them in plenty of time for the March COG Big Bend Ride. I'd been thinking about getting some less expensive overpants for now, but decided I owed it to myself to go with these. Hope I can keep them in one piece. Boots next!

If you're undecided about material, get them to send samples. Velocipede has the air mesh, so I got to see what it was like, and wanted to compare the stretch blend, so they sent me some. Breathes better than my nylon, and has a "soft" texture, so I'm going that way and just plan on staying damp when it's too hot out.

Some of Wayne Boyer's the posts in this thread:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=154671

are pretty entertaining, as you can see some of the guys trying his patience, which extended past where mine would most likely have run out.

fogllama

12-14-2006, 12:15 PM

I got my pants back and the placement of the knee armor is now perfect. Remember that I was at fault for the wrong placement, not them.

My freakish arms mean that stock gear does not fit me correctly. So as long as I receive my gear, I am less worried about long-term service than you normal folk. I hope he stays in business, as there isn't much choice in the custom Kevlar mesh gear department. Texas is just too hot for Aerostich.

These are well made garments with excellent liners, as you would expect for the price. The outside (Kevlar) of the garment feels rough and tough. Luckily your skin never contacts the Kevlar. The inside of the mesh is soft and comfy. Then you have the excellent rain/wind liner when needed. Finally, for the serious cold there is the quilted liner that goes into the rain liner. I was riding long-haul in the upper 30's (I didn't have the pants yet) and my body was toasty. I could have used heated grips or gloves, though. I have not had the pants long enough to give a proper review.

I don't know about others, but on my jacket I must wear the glove gauntlets under the sleeves. The sleeves are too thick for the gauntlets to go on the outside. If you have an obsession about that you might be unhappy with the jacket.

If I had known then what I know now, I would have gone for the Cycleport Kevlar mesh earlier and saved the money I spent on a different custom jacket. While that other company's product is well made, it is too hot in the summer and too cold in the winter. I'd need to carry multiple jackets and have no room for gear and clothes in my luggage.

In contrast, the Cycleport Kevlar Mesh is flexible to the temperature extremes. The rain and quilted liner still take up some space, but it makes for a winning system for beating the weather while practicing ATGATT.

My only regret is that the pants were not available in high visibility yellow. I got the gray, which I suppose goes okay with the screaming yellow jacket.

sherob

12-14-2006, 12:24 PM

Throw your jacket in a front load washer for a round or two to soften it up a bit ;-)

McLeod

01-16-2007, 01:10 PM

I was looking for some long term information on the kevlar mesh II jacket how is it in the summer and the winter.

sherob

01-16-2007, 01:40 PM

This is my first winter... going into my second summer ;-) With the liner... very toasty :trust: I usually wear a Starter sweater jacket under it on sub 50 days so I have something to wear around the office when I get to work... even down to sub 30 I'm very warm... before somebody points out that I'm on a GW... I wore this jacket in Golden back in September... it dropped down to ~40 degrees on us riding up there... very warm with the liner :trust:

I had a Cortech Mesh II jacket before this jacket for summer wear... this jacket is a little warmer since it has so much more armour in it... chest, shoulders, elbows, back, tons of armour!

I ride everyday... so I wanted something that vented in the nice humid Houston area weather... skipped the 'Stich for this.

Get the high-viz yellow... everybody loves it :rofl:

Tourmeister

02-07-2007, 02:26 PM

:tab Well, I ordered the pants and jacket today, the Air Mesh Kevlar. I had them make some mods so they'd be useful for dualsport riding as well. They said the current turn around time is about 2 weeks. I hope this is the last suit I have to buy for a lonnnnggg time ;-) $1100... :huh2:

McLeod

02-07-2007, 04:18 PM

What color. what mods?

Tourmeister

02-07-2007, 05:01 PM

:tab The Air mesh only comes in Black, Red, Grey and some gross yellows... I chose black. For the pockets and stuff under your arms, they use the stretch kevlar stuff which comes in Black, Red, Grey, Blue, and High puke yellow. I went black mesh with grey stretch under the arms and black stretch for the pockets. Pants are all black.

:tab On the jacket, I left off the upper chest pockets. I tend not to carry much in pockets and they aren't water proof anyway. Also, I did not want them impeding airflow to the chest area. I had them add a button to the collar flap so that I could have the top open and pin the flap back out of the way so it would not be flapping around in the wind. I sent them the custom dimensions to fit my Kermit shaped body (long legs, short torso). On the pants, I had them include the option hip/thigh armor. I had them make the lower leg big enough to clear my dirt boots. For that I actually measured the circumference of the boots on my leg and gave it to them. I had them leave off all logos on both the pants and jacket, and the embroidery on the pant snap cover flap. I also added the rain/thermal liners for both the pants and jacket.

:tab Not really a lot in the way of mods, but I am hoping they really make the suit truly a dual purpose suit and also one that will fit me well.

sherob

02-07-2007, 07:17 PM

High puke yellow :rofl: It really stands out on a gold Goldwing :rofl:

McLeod

02-07-2007, 10:12 PM

Very cool.
I make sure to measure the top of my boots when I order the pants.

I heard that the thermal liner cant be separated from rain liner on the pants, dose this concern you?

Tx White Knight

02-07-2007, 10:17 PM

I have not saved up enough yet but I have talked to them and they will even put some extra material where my leg somtimes hits my pipe and melts..;-)

I have also talked to Gerbing and they will also wire the jacket liner.

If I could just sell my boat and scuba gear I will have it made ..:mrgreen:

Tourmeister

02-07-2007, 11:54 PM

McLeod

02-08-2007, 04:47 AM

I'll try to get time today to call and ask about it.
If you have to decide weather to have a rain liner or a insulated liner I am not sure which one to get. If its cool enough to put on my rain pants to break the wind then it would be nice to have a extra layer. I just don't want to be a Lobster stewing in my own gooo because I had to put my liner in.

I can all ways add a layer under the rain liner if you bought one with out insulation.

Anyone who currently owns a motorport please chime in here I might be worried about nothing.

tjbrandt50

02-08-2007, 09:53 AM

My outfit (stretch, not mesh) has separate thermal and rain liners for the jacket. Both zip in, thermal inermost, rain next, and stretch kevlar outside. In fact, the jacket and rain liner have an inner liner of some thin, porous synthetic sewn in (not sure of material) that makes for quite a few total layers with everything on. The sleeves of the rain liner have snap loops to connect through loops in the jacket, and hook and loop that mates up with the thermal liner. The rain and thermal liner have two zippers each, one up each side.

The pants did not have an extra thermal liner, and I don't believe Cycleport offers one. The rain liner was the same as the jacket's with waist zip-in and snap loops at the bottoms.

I was out riding in the low '20's last month for about 3-4 hours with the Aero-Tex liner in the pants, and jeans underneath and was toasty the whole time. The stretch doesn't breath quite as well as air mesh, but still allows for pretty good air flow. Of course I was also on a bike with a lot of weather protection.

sherob

02-08-2007, 11:12 AM

IIRC, the pants are the same as the jacket(kevlar mesh)... you can zip in the thermal with the rain liner over it... they are 2 different liners that zip together.

I don't even zip in the jacket liner... just wear it as a coat, throw on the jacket. Comes in handy when I get to work and it's cold outside, you have a coat without packing one ;-)

Tourmeister

02-08-2007, 01:37 PM

I called them.

For the jacket, the rain and thermal liners are separate but can both be used at the same time.

For the pants, you either get a rain liner without the thermal, or you get a rain liner with the thermal permanently sewn into it. So I opted for just the rain liner. If it is that cold, I will just wear something under the pants.

sherob

02-08-2007, 02:12 PM

Thanks for the info... I'm going to finally break the bank for pants in a week or two ;-)

Tourmeister

02-08-2007, 05:07 PM

:tab Yeah I was sitting on the fence for a long time on this because of the cost. Seeing tjrbrand50 at the recent bike night finally pushed me over the edge. That and the fact that I could get the suit custom tailored to my specs. If it lasts anywhere near as well as people claim, it will be well worth the money over the long run. I have easily spent more than the cost of this suit on other gear over the last 8 years of riding. None of it fit like I wanted. All of it always had stuff that bugged me feature wise. So I am really hoping this suit works out well and lasts a long time!

Tx White Knight

02-08-2007, 11:01 PM

Hmmm.... they did not mention that issue with the liners in the pants. All they said is that there is a rain liner and a separate thermal liner. They zip together and then into the jacket so you can use them at the same time, or you can use one at a time. They did not say anything different about the pants and I did not think to ask.

I asked them about thermal pant liners and they said they didnt sell them anymore for the Air Mesh Kevlar Pant as they caused some sort of problem and most folks dont need anything more than the rain liner that they sell for them.

Velocipede

02-12-2007, 08:05 AM

I've been riding daily with the air mesh kevlar since May 2006. I have the non-quilted liner for the pants, and this has been adequate for 30's and up. The combination of rain and thermal liners for the jacket are good for the same temperature range. I pull the thermal liner above 50, as it can get quite toasty.

McLeod

02-12-2007, 12:29 PM

Well I just pulled the trigger on a new jacket.

Tourmeister

02-20-2007, 04:39 PM

:tab The suit arrived today. That was pretty fast for a custom setup which made me nervous. Well... Now I get to find out how good their customer service is :doh: It appears they did few of the modifications for which I asked. The ONLY reason I went with this suit was because of the modifications.

Jacket
- I asked for no upper chest pockets. I got pockets.
- I asked for no emblems on jacket. I got a big bright ugly emblem.
- I asked for reflective striping down the arms. I just got it across the back.
- I asked for a snap to hold open the collar flap when it is not closed. Nothing.

:tab The jacket fits well. However, the wrist openings are adjustable only by snaps about 1-1/2" apart. One size is way to big, the next so small I cannot bend my wrist and the material digs into the back of my hands. They used velcro straps on the forearm and upper arm to pull the material tight. Don't know why they could not do the same at the wrist for better adjustment?

Pants
- I asked for a flared lower leg so they would fit over my dirt boots. The barely fit over my street boots!
- I asked for the left leg zipper to come up almost to the crotch to facilitate getting big boots through. It stops at about mid thigh. So even getting the street boots through is tough.
- They did leave off the big embroidery patch as I asked.
- I asked for hip armor (optional) and got foam padding about 1/4" thick. It looks to be about as useful as my denim jeans in terms of padding... It is very soft and totally unlike any of the other armor in the suit.

:tab The pants seem to fit okay. With the rain liner in, they are quite tight. In particular, the rain liner is VERY tight at the waist. I have to stretch the elastic almost as far as it will go to get the zippers to meet. Given that I gave them my waist measurement, I expect a bit better fit. There is no way I can wear these pants with my dirt boots. Also, it took me about ten minutes just to get into the pants. No doubt that is a first time thing, but they just seem very awkward. The lower leg is adjustable, to make it tighter! Like the wrists on the jacket though, it is a step adjustment instead of progressive. It would have been much better to simply have two velcro straps on each leg a few inches apart.

:tab Other than the lack of my modifications, the suit looks pretty good and well made. The mesh flows air VERY well, even just walking around the house. The rain liners look to be a real pain. By the time I get stopped, get them unpacked and zipped into the suit, and get the suit back on, I will be soaked. I don't understand why all the top grade suits do this (other than aerostich). Rukka and BMW suits are the same way, internal liners.

:tab I will keep you posted...

sherob

02-20-2007, 04:47 PM

That bites :doh: I didn't get velcro on my sleeves... hmmm. I hope Wayne takes care of you. I know I had a problem with a snap... fixed in a snap ;-)

Tx White Knight

02-20-2007, 06:41 PM

Thanks for the update Scott, I was going to order mine next week, finally got all my penneys together. .:scratch:

I would like to hear how they handle it as I am not skinney and cant afford to get something to snug, that would ruin a good RTE :lol2:

Tourmeister

02-20-2007, 08:14 PM

:tab Well, I spoke with one of the people this evening. She was very nice and understanding. She pulled up my order and we went over what they had and what I got. While we were at it, we made some other changes, some at my suggestion and some at hers, that I think will help a lot. The suit is boxed and will be sent back tomorrow. Hopefully, I will get it back in time for my trip to Mexico in late Match or I will be hurting for gear!! :doh:

sherob

02-20-2007, 08:39 PM

Good for you ;-) As fas as big guys go... I'm a 250 guy... XL worked for me and I can still add layers with the liner. Mine took almost 3 months to get... I sent exact specs for sizing ;-)

Squeaky

02-20-2007, 08:48 PM

Hopefully, I will get it back in time for my trip to Mexico in late Match or I will be hurting for gear!! :doh:

If not, just let me know since we're about the same size in most of the gear we wear.

McLeod

02-20-2007, 10:14 PM

:popcorn:

Tourmeister

02-20-2007, 10:15 PM

Sherob, I too sent exact dimensions, even some extra ones for the custom stuff ;-) It really seems like they just got in a hurry to get it out.

sherob

02-20-2007, 10:23 PM

Sherob, I too sent exact dimensions, even some extra ones for the custom stuff ;-) It really seems like they just got in a hurry to get it out.

I was surprised at how fast yours got your back ;-) I know mine took forever... 2 others ordered around the same time as me, they got theirs a little earlier. I was told that the special ordered items are made in CA, they have off the rack items made in China for guys that fit the norm or non-special orders. It seems they took an off the rack and just sent it to you :doh:

I hope you get your order in time... I've been very pleased with mine, Squeaky will verify the hi-viz color :lol2:

Squeaky

02-20-2007, 10:28 PM

The pic is a little blurry, but here are both Tom and CatFreak's gear in the same pic:

http://squeaky.smugmug.com/photos/128717956-M.jpg

sherob

02-20-2007, 10:30 PM

Uh... thanks :lol2:

Squeaky

02-20-2007, 10:31 PM

Uh... thanks :lol2:

Hey, I warned you - You will never ever be known to me by your given name if that's not the way I met you. Plain and simple.

Just be happy that I don't, at some point in the future, try to introduce myself to you again... :doh:

BMWbabe

02-21-2007, 12:12 AM

I had a good look at Sherob's. The whole point of hi-viz is to be seen and I don't know how anyone could miss him in that jacket. Excellent choice.

McLeod

02-28-2007, 10:02 PM

Tx White Knight

02-28-2007, 10:50 PM

Thanks McLoed, I called them today and talked to them again. How much was the options to fix the cuffs from snaps to Velcro and the Velcro collar?

Also did you get the extra hip armor?

BTW are you talking about the Air Mesh Kevlar Pant and the Ultra II Air Mesh Kevlar Jacket???? .:clap:

Tourmeister

03-01-2007, 01:19 AM

The extra hip "armor" is not what I would really call armor. It is basically very thin padding. It is not like the armor in the rest of the suit. This is one of the issues I am hoping to resolve.

McLeod

03-01-2007, 05:15 AM

BTW are you talking about the Air Mesh Kevlar Pant and the Ultra II Air Mesh Kevlar Jacket???? .:clap: Just the jacket. I'll try to get a picture of the jacket tonight before it gets dark.

How much was the options to fix the cuffs from snaps to Velcro and the Velcro collar?
They didn't charge to change from snaps to Velcro on sleeves and collar.
The coin pocket on the right sleeve (aka Aerostich pocket) was nineteen dollars. The extra reflective on the sleeves is twenty nine dollars.

Also did you get the extra hip armor?
I'll be very interested in how Tourmeister's pants come out. Tourmeister is having his pants built for dual sport riding. My pants will be similar.

When is your set due back Tourmeister?

My wife says the Air Mesh Kevlar jacket is about as huggable as a vegetable grater!

Loyd

03-01-2007, 05:26 PM

Ok, I'll say it...

Those pants make your *** look huge!:mrgreen:

Tx White Knight

03-01-2007, 09:16 PM

Ok, I'll say it...
Those pants make your *** look huge!:mrgreen:

Well for me that wouldnt be anything new, I help keep the tent makers in business in the off seasons .:rofl:

PlanoRider

03-01-2007, 09:51 PM

I just got my Cycleport jacket and all I can say WOW when you put this thing on you feel like a Tank.
A good friend of mine who owns a Aerostich said "You can see light through the outer liner"

Mine is black with red trim. As much as I liked the Hi-viz yellow (it must have been the McLeod in me :-P ) I wanted something that had a little less sex appeal :eek2:. I am going to buy a Hi-viz vest to wear over it for my commutes, and to wear at the BMW bar's.

Today since I started out at a balmy (for February) 62 deg @ 5 am. I installed the thermal liner for my ride into work and took the thermal liner out for my ride home.
I didn't find much problem with putting In either liner. I isn't much different than installing a liner in a old army jacket. To install one you just need a good portion of floor or bench top. I can see where trying to install the liners along the highway in the rain would be a pain.

I benefited from the issues that Tourmeister ran into with the cuffs on the sleeves. I called the day they put mine in production and got it changed to velcro instead of snaps. Cycleport has awesome service to say the least.

I kept all the pockets, they make me feel like Tasslehoff Burrfoot.
I added the Aerostich like pocket on the right arm. Darn handy for your keys and ear plugs.
I added the reflective material down the arms. It will either scare the cars off or lead them to the target.
I also had velcro added to hold the collar open (Tourmeister's idea) used it this evening worked great.
Had them put velcro instead of snaps on the sleeve cuffs.

Two things I would add if I were to do it again.
First the snaps that hold the rain liner in I would request them to leave about 1 to 1.5 inches of extra material for grasping.
Second is hand warmer style pockets on the rain liner.

Got my set today. All I can say is WOW this stuff is heavy!! LOL It is amazing how heavy it can feel and still be so transparent to wind. I rode this evening with the jacket and pants with only very light weight sweat pants and a cotton t-shirt underneath and it was almost cold. Probably would have been uncomfortable if I had ridden for very long. I was amazed at how much you feel the wind each time I took off from a stop.

I deleted the front pockets from the jacket and had him add hand warmer style pockets on the bottom front of the jacket in place of the external cargo pockets. I like the clean look and I would probably not use the pockets anyway.

I am 6'2" and 265lbs but I have never thought I looked really big until I put this stuff on. The bulk factor is huge. But the quality level is very impressive. Everything is well thought out and top quality materials.

If you get the pants I really recommend the suspenders. They are wonderful. Although I will probably send mine back since they are too long. They are currently adjusted pretty comfortable but that is with them as short as they can be set...... So perhaps I will try to exchange them for slightly shorter ones. The suspenders add $69 to the overall cost.

There is an additional level of confidence that comes from wearing this stuff. You feel very protected. I would recommend it.

I have seen Tery's and his color choice is much more impressive and visible with the red trim. It is a very vibrant and pretty red. I chose blue trim and it is a nice blue but much more subdued and therefore less visible.

Cool stuff as long as you don't think about how much it costs too much.... LOL With the 3/4 jacket and pants in mesh kevlar, both the thermal and rain liner for the jacket and a rain liner and combo rain/termal liner for the pants the total came to just over $1300. Not cheap......

Tx White Knight

03-01-2007, 10:20 PM

and combo rain/termal liner for the pants the total came to just over $1300. Not cheap......
Sweet but what thermal liner for the pants?? I dont see it listed on their web page???

Thanks

sherob

03-02-2007, 03:52 AM

Sweet but what thermal liner for the pants?? I dont see it listed on their web page???

Thanks

http://www.motoport.com/search_result.asp?Category=RainGear&Merchant_ID=G7Y9CEYc&Merchant_Fax=760-752-9317&Merchant_Phone=1-800-777-6499 ;-)

McLeod

03-02-2007, 06:53 AM

Ok, I'll say it...

Those pants make your *** look huge!:mrgreen:

:rofl:

McLeod

03-04-2007, 01:15 PM

Here is a few pictures of my jacket.
I added pulls to all the zippers and to the snaps to make it easier to pull with gloves.
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h70/McLeod_photos/Febuary%202007/jacket3.jpg
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h70/McLeod_photos/Febuary%202007/jacket2.jpg
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h70/McLeod_photos/Febuary%202007/jacket1.jpg

PlanoRider

03-04-2007, 03:06 PM

Sweet but what thermal liner for the pants?? I dont see it listed on their web page???

Thanks

I am not sure if it is even on the web page. But they had trouble making a separate rain and thermal liner for the pants and getting it all to zip and button together. So they sell the rain liner separate for $99 and then they sell the rain and thermal liner sewen together for $149 so I bought both. I decided that the level of pain$$$ here was so high I would just get it all over with!! LOL

Tx White Knight

03-04-2007, 05:12 PM

I am not sure if it is even on the web page. But they had trouble making a separate rain and thermal liner for the pants and getting it all to zip and button together. So they sell the rain liner separate for $99 and then they sell the rain and thermal liner sewen together for $149 so I bought both. I decided that the level of pain$$$ here was so high I would just get it all over with!! LOL
So far I have not ridden to work when it is close to freezing and the morans leaving sprinklers on but for longer rides I guess I could put on some long john bottoms? still not sure about the pant liners.:huh:

Tx White Knight

03-04-2007, 05:14 PM

Here is a few pictures of my jacket.
I added pulls to all the zippers and to the snaps to make it easier to pull with gloves.
That is a great looking jacket. I want the gray and black so I will sort of look like a knights armor :rofl:

McLeod

03-04-2007, 09:14 PM

That is a great looking jacket. I want the gray and black so I will sort of look like a knights armor :rofl:

Thanks. I really like the jacket. The gray and black looks really cool.

I added nylon pulls to all the zippers and snaps to assist in opening. I might stitch a piece of cloth over the top of the pocket edge. I did one pocket so far. Having the stretch kevlar on the sewn on the pocket edge might be a recommendation for someone to have done at cycle port because the Mesh is really abrasive.

Tx White Knight

03-04-2007, 09:38 PM

I added nylon pulls to all the zippers and snaps to assist in opening. I might stitch a piece of cloth over the top of the pocket edge. I did one pocket so far. Having the stretch kevlar on the sewn on the pocket edge might be a recommendation for someone to have done at cycle port because the Mesh is really abrasive.
I will ask about that but my wife may do it as she has as many sweing machines as I do puters. .;-)

McLeod

03-04-2007, 09:45 PM

My daughter and I are making her renaissance dress. I was hand stitching mine I didn't feel like trying to feed that monster of a jacket under the sewing machine.

PlanoRider

03-07-2007, 09:52 PM

Update: Do not buy the insulated pants liner. It is not on the website but if you ask it is $149 and he says they discourage people from ordering it. I can see why. Unless you live in a frozen waste you cannot need this. With this and jeans you will have to make a major effort to lift you leg to put your foot on the peg!!! It is so hot it felt like it was electrically heated!!

I called and Wayne is allowing me to return mine and to also return some other items for adjustment. Suspenders for pants too long and neck on jacket too tight. Measure your neck when you order and supply that info even tho they do not ask. Especially if you have a thick neck.....

The overall experience is still very positive and I have nothing but good things to say about Cycleport.

d2mini

03-07-2007, 10:01 PM

Ok, I'll say it...

Those pants make your *** look huge!:mrgreen:

Trust me... it's not the pants. :moon: :mrgreen:

Tx White Knight

03-07-2007, 10:03 PM

PlanoRider

03-08-2007, 12:36 PM

Thanks for the info, hmmm do us fat boys have necks??? "LOL" I will add this to my list of things to measure, I have a spread sheet set up.

Is the armor so bulky you cant get your leg up?? I dont have Hi way pegs yet but by the time I am done with the Ulta Star on just never know;-)

Its not the armor really it is the overall bulk. The insulated rain liner for the pants is pretty bulky when you add that to the pants which are stiff and then wear jeans under all of it the whole thing was too bulky to bend at the knee.....

The rain liner alone is much thinner so I don't suspect there will be a problem there. Wayne said that rather than use the insulated liner in the pants they recommend the rain liner and also wear thermal underwear if it is really cold......

Tx White Knight

03-08-2007, 09:34 PM

Its not the armor really it is the overall bulk. The insulated rain liner for the pants is pretty bulky when you add that to the pants which are stiff and then wear jeans under all of it the whole thing was too bulky to bend at the knee.....

The rain liner alone is much thinner so I don't suspect there will be a problem there. Wayne said that rather than use the insulated liner in the pants they recommend the rain liner and also wear thermal underwear if it is really cold......

Oh OK, I didnt catch the part that it was the insulated pant liner that was making it hard.

Have you tried putting them in the dryer yet to soften them up a bit? I saw that someplace but dont remember where now.

Hopefully I can get my measurments done this week end :sun:

Squeaky

03-08-2007, 10:12 PM

Tx White Knight

03-08-2007, 10:40 PM

Why not go jeans-less?

I used to ride with my jeans under my overpants, but the bulk at the knees and the unsightly flap of fabric sticking out at the ankle was just too much for me.

For comfort (yeah, and style points) I now ride with either thermals (cold) or bicycle pants (warm) underneath.

If I went jeans-less at work someone would call PETA and report a beached whale :lol2:

If it was a pleasure ride and I was wearing the MotoPort I would wear sweats or something cool under them.:rider:

Tourmeister

03-14-2007, 10:57 AM

Just got off the phone with Wayne. Suit should be getting mailed back to me today. I need it by Tuesday of next week so I can leave town Wednesday... Gonna be close! I sure hope the changes work... :pray:

Tx White Knight

03-14-2007, 08:24 PM

d2mini

03-16-2007, 01:45 PM

Thats good news, Have they said anything about how to soften it up?

I tried what was suggested to me by several people... running it throught the washer and then the dryer on cool. SEVERAL times. No difference! I even ran it through both the washer and the dryer with a pair of sneakers to try and soften it up. Still no difference. And without the quilted liner the jacket fit great, same with the pants. But I couldn't wear either with the liners. I felt like the little brother in A Christmas Story who couldn't put his arms down in his snow suit! :rofl:

I'm the one who started this thread but I just sold everything. In the end it was just too bulky and stiff of a setup for me. To replace it I just bought the BMW Venting Machine suit. I have the jacket in my posession but the pants had to be ordered. Once I have the whole thing and get to use it I'll post a review. I sure felt invincible in the Motoport, but in the end I was just too uncomfortable. The VM is so much lighter, thinner, fits better, easier to move around in... and the pants are regular pants, not overpants. Material wise it looks like it will hold up darn well for a synthetic suit. I'm mostly worried about abrasion resistance and venting. Even the motoport air mesh kevlar has less abrasion resistance than leather or 600 cordura. So the VM should be close to the motoport in that respect. And the jacket is just as see-through if not more than motoport. I've read nothing but fantastic reviews on it. We shall see...

Tourmeister

03-20-2007, 01:59 PM

Suit arrived today. At first glance, it looks good. They got all the changes made and even added a few extras I had left out on the first order. I'm leaving for Mexico tomorrow... So I'll have a good review for you when I get back :trust:

McLeod

03-26-2007, 07:39 AM

Short update on Cycleport Kevlar Mesh jacket.

My son and I were out at a MX park this weekend. Though I did not get the chance to test the impact worthiness of the armor.:rider: I did get to use my jacket. I was wearing a underamor tee shirt, Thor jersey and my jacket with all the liners removed. I can say though I wasn't riding very hard I was extremely comfortable throwing the XR around on the track.

Hotair

03-26-2007, 10:13 AM

The Cycleport can be softer if you let it tumble in the dryer for about 3to 4 hours NO HEAT!!!! Mine is very comfortable after a 10 day ride thru Texas earlier this month! It took about 2 days for the pads to form to me, if it had been warmer it would have been easier. I also ordered mine a skosh larger to be more comfortable. LOVE the suit!:rider: :rider: :rider: :rider:

McLeod

03-27-2007, 07:37 AM

Tourmeister how did your new gear perform on your trip?

Tx White Knight

03-27-2007, 06:54 PM

Thanks for the updates, I have a pair of jeans all marked up and some money in a box ready to go into the mail in the morning :-P

Only one problem, wife saw me boxing it up so now I have to take her out for supper tonight, ,;)

leekellerking

03-28-2007, 08:22 AM

Tourmeister

03-29-2007, 02:54 AM

Gear did well, will try to post more detail tomorrow.

Tx White Knight

03-29-2007, 09:48 PM

Sound like my house! Any excuse is a GOOD excuse for eating out, according to my wife.
Lee
Well as long as she is happy i am happy ;-)

Tx White Knight

03-29-2007, 09:51 PM

Gear did well, will try to post more detail tomorrow.

I am glad to hear they did good, I hope my marked up pants get there by monday so that I may know when I can expect them by Firday :clap:

Tx White Knight

03-29-2007, 09:53 PM

I wonder how much greif I am going to get ridding my V-Star with Harley fairing and bags with a kevlar suite??? .;)

Tourmeister

03-30-2007, 12:19 AM

Okay,

Jacket first.

:tab I do not like their cuff setup. There simply is too much material at the wrist being bunched up. The wrists need to be free to move. The snaps just plan suck. I wish I had known about the snaps before so I could have told them to use the velcro straps. They really should ask for a wrist dimension. With the rain liner in, it is even worse. The bunched up material actually hurts because it pushes so hard against the wrist bones, particularly on the inside at the base of the thumb. I am not a fan of having the material folded over on top of itself. I think it would work better of they had a simple cut in the material so two layers could overlap instead of having three layers folded up under the snap strap.

:tab Next, they should as for a neck measurement. I got a fat neck. That or they just make it really tight. With the rain liner in, I feel like I am choking because there is so much material bunched up and pressing against my adam's apple. It also makes moving the head up and down a little difficult. To be fair, every jacket I have tried suffers the same problem.

:tab The zippers do NOT like the Mexican dust... By the end of the first day, it was VERY hard to get the zipper up the front to work. Of course, a few minutes with a water hose would fix it at the end of the day. But while on the trail it can get a little annoying fighting the zipper.

:tab Okay, enough bad stuff. I found the jacket very comfortable while wearing just a cotton short sleeve T-shirt under it. I did not feel that my movement was restricted at all. It fits me very well. The jacket vents fantastic. The rain liner can be zipped into the jacket. It is fairly warm with the liner in. Since I am usually in a hurry once I decide to stop and get out the rain gear, I just put the liner on like a jacket, zipped it up, and then put the main jacket on over it. Took all of two minutes maybe. If you wanted to, you could do the same thing with the pants. When not in use, the liners roll up pretty small.

:tab Pockets on these jackets seem a little silly to me. In retrospect, I wish I had simply had them leave off ALL of the pockets. None of them are waterproof so I am not going to carry anything in them. They just add weight and bulk to the jacket. The pockets on the pants are the same but I would leave things in them like coins, keys, and other items that I am not worried about getting wet. I could get by with one though.

:tab I got to test the impact and abrasion protection pretty quick :doh: A low speed (<10mph) front end wash out under braking on an oil slick had me on the ground before I even realized I was going down. I'm fine, bike was fine, can't tell on the jacket.

Pants:

:tab The pants are a little bulky but not enough to bother me. They have a LOT of armor/padding in them. The armor is all right where it needs to be and did not interfere with the top of my riding boots. It came right even with the top. They feel kind of heavy when you are holding them. As you know, I had some fairly major modifications done to mine for the purpose of making them more dualsport friendly. I had the section below the knee flared to fit over my dirt boots. They made them to tight at first, but after the revisions, it works perfect. The left leg zipper was brought up higher, almost even with the crotch. The same was done on the rain liner. This makes it easier to get a bulky dirt boot through when putting the pants on. The right leg zipper is full length. I find it easiest to zip it up about as high as the left zipper and then zip the top down to that same point. This keeps the right leg from just flapping open and makes it easier to handle. I also had them add velcro straps at the calf and just above the ankle so that when wearing street boots, I can pull some of the excess material together to keep it from flapping. They are like the straps you see on jacket sleeves. I can get in or out of the pants pretty quick. I really like the belt on them too.

:tab As I mentioned, the rain liner can be zipped in or you can just put it on and then put the pants on over it. I got rained on a lot during the trip to and from Mexico. The rain liners worked great! I was totally dry. Coming back from Eagle Pass, it really opened up and dumped on me pretty good too! Without the liner, the pants are not cumbersome feeling at all. They vent really well and having that air flowing under your bum really helps with the monkey butt ;-) I wore them this evening to and from bike night with jeans on under them. It was comfortable. I even had the rain liner on and did not feel like my knees were being restricted or that too much was bunching up behind the knees.

:tab Over all, I am quite happy with the suit. I don't know that I would want to wear it on a sport bike where I would be a little more wadded up, but for a dualsport or other upright standard bike, it is pretty good. I am undecided if I will do anything about the wrist issue. I may call Wayne at CyclePort and discuss it with him. I also had the reflective striping down the arms and legs done. Snoopster tells me it is VERY noticeable at night. She followed me home from bike night this evening.

McLeod

03-30-2007, 05:23 AM

Okay,
Jacket first.
:tab Next, they should as for a neck measurement. I got a fat neck. That or they just make it really tight. With the rain liner in, I feel like I am choking because there is so much material bunched up and pressing against my adam's apple. It also makes moving the head up and down a little difficult. To be fair, every jacket I have tried suffers the same problem.

Planorider sent his jacket back in and they enlarged the neck. He is now very happy with the jacket. You may want to ask Wayne about the neck issue when you next talk to him about what to do about the cuffs.

I am very glad to hear that the gear is working out. I really like my jacket. My pant order is being processed and will be shipped on April 9th. :clap:

PlanoRider

03-30-2007, 08:59 PM

Okay,

:tab Next, they should as for a neck measurement. I got a fat neck. That or they just make it really tight. With the rain liner in, I feel like I am choking because there is so much material bunched up and pressing against my adam's apple. It also makes moving the head up and down a little difficult. To be fair, every jacket I have tried suffers the same problem.

:tab Pockets on these jackets seem a little silly to me. In retrospect, I wish I had simply had them leave off ALL of the pockets. None of them are waterproof so I am not going to carry anything in them. They just add weight and bulk to the jacket. The pockets on the pants are the same but I would leave things in them like coins, keys, and other items that I am not worried about getting wet. I could get by with one though.

:tab I got to test the impact and abrasion protection pretty quick :doh: A low speed (<10mph) front end wash out under braking on an oil slick had me on the ground before I even realized I was going down. I'm fine, bike was fine, can't tell on the jacket.

:tab The pants are a little bulky but not enough to bother me. They have a LOT of armor/padding in them. The armor is all right where it needs to be and did not interfere with the top of my riding boots. It came right even with the top. They feel kind of heavy when you are holding them. As you know, I had some fairly major modifications done to mine for the purpose of making them more dualsport friendly. I had the section below the knee flared to fit over my dirt boots. They made them to tight at first, but after the revisions, it works perfect. The left leg zipper was brought up higher, almost even with the crotch. The same was done on the rain liner. This makes it easier to get a bulky dirt boot through when putting the pants on. The right leg zipper is full length. I find it easiest to zip it up about as high as the left zipper and then zip the top down to that same point. This keeps the right leg from just flapping open and makes it easier to handle. I also had them add velcro straps at the calf and just above the ankle so that when wearing street boots, I can pull some of the excess material together to keep it from flapping. They are like the straps you see on jacket sleeves. I can get in or out of the pants pretty quick. I really like the belt on them too.

:tab As I mentioned, the rain liner can be zipped in or you can just put it on and then put the pants on over it. I got rained on a lot during the trip to and from Mexico. The rain liners worked great! I was totally dry. Coming back from Eagle Pass, it really opened up and dumped on me pretty good too! Without the liner, the pants are not cumbersome feeling at all. They vent really well and having that air flowing under your bum really helps with the monkey butt ;-) I wore them this evening to and from bike night with jeans on under them. It was comfortable. I even had the rain liner on and did not feel like my knees were being restricted or that too much was bunching up behind the knees.

:tab Over all, I am quite happy with the suit. I don't know that I would want to wear it on a sport bike where I would be a little more wadded up, but for a dualsport or other upright standard bike, it is pretty good. I am undecided if I will do anything about the wrist issue. I may call Wayne at CyclePort and discuss it with him. I also had the reflective striping down the arms and legs done. Snoopster tells me it is VERY noticeable at night. She followed me home from bike night this evening.

I agree about the neck measurement!! I even told them that I need an 18+" neck in a dress shirt but I got the standard 3XL jacket to start. But they actually took the collar off the jacket and put on a larger one. It is still tighter than I would probably want but I suspect that if it was larger it would not be tight enough when I want to stay warm or dry.... We'll see. I cannot imagine closing the neck unless it is cold or wet anyway.

I thought the pockets on the jacket looked pretty bad too. I mean this is not pretty stuff to start with but the huge "cargo" style pockets all over the front of the jacket don't help. Also if you put stuff in them it cannot help but block air flow. I had Wayne delete all the pockets from the front of the jacket and then I had him put two "hand warmer" type pockets in the front with the pocket actually inside the jacket rather than being a pouch sewn onto the front. So I only have two verticle zippers on the front for these which gives the jacket better lines. I also added the little key and ear plug pocket to the end of both arms. My garage door opener fits really well in the left one and I can use it without even opening the pocket!!!

While I am sorry to hear that you already tested the crash function of the suit I would really like to hear more about how well it did or not. That is my primary reason for this gear and I am hoping that the kevlar and the armor really work.

I am glad you like the belt on the pants but I would like to remove mine but it is sewn on in the back. I got the suspenders and I love them!!! They are the best. The pants stay at the perfect height all the time. I think if you are in good shape (ie no gut) then the belt is fine but if you are on the larger side of things (like me) then the suspenders are wonderful!!! Also I have found that all the big zippers that are supposed to allow you to put the pants on with your boots on, are more trouble than they are worth. I have found it much easier to put the pants on first like pants and then put the boots on. The liner material really catches on the boots and makes it a real bear to get them on.

Tourmeister

03-30-2007, 09:55 PM

Also I have found that all the big zippers that are supposed to allow you to put the pants on with your boots on, are more trouble than they are worth. I have found it much easier to put the pants on first like pants and then put the boots on. The liner material really catches on the boots and makes it a real bear to get them on.

This is why I had them bring the zipper up higher on the leg. Also, I had the pants enlarged in circumference. I can get my boots in out with no problems. They are big too...

Tx White Knight

03-30-2007, 11:59 PM

Thanks for the reports, I checked the tracking I sent mine with and it says this
Your item was delivered at 11:46 AM on March 30, 2007 in SAN MARCOS, CA 92069

Due to my dimensions they are going to start with a larger jacket and then cut some off of the bottom so it does not hang to my knees ,:eat2:

I sent my neck size as well as waist, and at belly button, just abit of differenct :rofl:

I hope to hear from then next week now to see about when they think they will ship

McLeod

03-31-2007, 09:40 AM

Due to my dimensions they are going to start with a larger jacket and then cut some off of the bottom so it does not hang to my knees ,:eat2:

My jacket is the prefect length if I were to be riding a sport bike. When I am riding in a forward position on my XR and resting my left forearm on the handle bars and my feet on the passenger pegs (aka "The Insertion Position") the back of the jacket just touches the seat. When I ride in the upright riding position that your supposed to be in :trust: instead of the "insertion position" My jacket bunches and gets under my kester. I am going to try snatching a loop in the jacket to see how much I length need to loose on it. I'll talk with Wayne and see what Cycleport can do.

I hope to hear from then next week now to see about when they think they will ship
:popcorn:

Tx White Knight

05-09-2007, 06:14 AM

Well I got my stuff last night, now if the rain well stop for a bit in the metromess I will RIDE .:sun:

It does look big on me but with the liners in it is still comfy. The Pillsberry dough boy has nothing on me .:mrgreen:

McLeod

05-09-2007, 06:31 AM

Well I got my stuff last night WhoooooHoooo... grats. :clap:

The Pillsberry dough boy has nothing on me .:mrgreen:

Join the crowd. I was thinking the other day when i was looking at my shadow it's "the Michelin man"

Tx White Knight

05-09-2007, 05:20 PM

WhoooooHoooo... grats. :clap:

Join the crowd. I was thinking the other day when i was looking at my shadow it's "the Michelin man"

I was thinking today I may have to get a bigger bike, I bet this looks like a 400 lb guy on a small bike :rofl: but a safer guy

GregH

05-09-2007, 08:18 PM

Tourmeister -
How about that crash report on the kevlar? :flip:

Bird of Prey

09-04-2007, 08:07 AM

Not to re-hash this topic. Can some of you that had the pockets deleted post some pics. I have the Ultra II Cordora and stretch kevlar pants, but now that I am living in TX, I think these are going to be too hot for most of the season and am looking into the Kevlar air mesh.

I agree, the pockets are a bit much and any time I have actually used them more than putting ear plugs in, they feel bulky and in the way. These jackets are buly enough with the rib and shoulder padding. I really want these to flow as much air as possible. I am considering the waist length jacket, but would love to see any without the pockets.

Any more updates on how well yours have held up would be greatly appreciated as well. The Kevlar pants I have are great. Only issue with them is one of the snaps in the flap that covers the blet buckle came appart. The cordora jacket, while structurally good has lots of pills and frays on the shoulder and the chest pocket I use. This is from the velcro in those areas pulling at the material. I have not found this to happen with the kevlar to date, but would like to hear from others regarding their experiences. I also have had some issues with the cuffs. I solved my issue with glove selection. I use a pair of Held gauntlet gloves. I found it is most comfortable to pull the cuffs over the gloves on the larger snap setting. I have a pair of Alpinestar winter gloves that will work over the cuffs, but any others I have tried just dig the snaps into my wrists.