Helmet cam for dummies, no really...

[Tx Rider]

Just ran across this little gem that rang my geek gadget bell pretty good...

A fully self contained helmet cam that saves to SD cards (postage stamp sized memory cards). Waterproof to 3m too.

Apparently it will record 30FPS video with sound at 640x480 for an hour on a 2GB memory card that cost about $25 each and runs on 2AA batteries.

It comes with an RCA cable and a USB cable for playback TV or transfer of video to a PC.

Even comes with some mounting stuff.

If anyone tries one let me know how well it works.

Helmet cam link (http://www2.oregonscientific.com/shop/product.asp?cid=18&scid=74&pid=709#)

[txbanditrydr]

I received one for X-mas last year.... it's a great little unit providing you don't expect high quality images. The pluses include compactness, SD card, long battery life and truly plug and play with XP. Minuses include tiny buttons that aren't glove friendly, no viewfinder for aiming and limited mounting options (no 1/4-20 mounting screw/plate).

It will give you a taste of bike video on the cheap but won't be the last one you buy if you get hooked. I tried mounting it on a helmet and the bike with different results. The file sizes are huge (AVI) but Windows Movie Maker will edit the files nicely and get them down to manageable sizes.

On a scale of 1 to 5 I would give it a 3.5

[TexasShadow]

I tried mounting it on a helmet and the bike with different results. And how did they compare?
Is there an affordable cam that renders good resolution?

[ebill]

Just ran across this little gem that rang my geek gadget bell pretty good...

If anyone tries one let me know how well it works.



- Here ya go Mounted on Mirror (http://media.putfile.com/April-29-18)

- ebill

[TexasShadow]

- Here ya go Mounted on Mirror (http://media.putfile.com/April-29-18)Hey, that's pretty decent. I've seen MUCH worse resolution.
<hmm.... how much in penny jar.....>

[1TallTXn]

Hey, that's pretty decent. I've seen MUCH worse resolution.

:puke:

But them I'm extremely picky on my video quality.

Anybody know how to get my XL1s on the bike where it won't be in the way?
http://www.canondvguide.com/xl1s.jpg
:lol2:

[txbanditrydr]

And how did they compare?


The helmet mount gives you a better perspective of the road but stabilizing it is a real hassle -there's a lot of buffeting to the picture. I like not having the camera lean with the bike (assuming you keep your head level).

I mounted it on the engine guard too... that gave a lower perspective that tilted with the bike but some shots had a weird harmonic vibration to the video I assume to be from the engine rpms.

A ram type mount would be ideal if you could fit the camera to it. If anyone has one of these and can offer mounting suggestions I'd appreciate it. One of the reasons I don't do more with it is the mounting difficulty.... then there's the editing part - heck, I can't seem to get my still shot organized. I'd post a vid clip but I don't have anyway to link to it.

[ulric]

..also a decent 'bump' seems to often cause corruption to the video/file.

It's neat to play around with, but if you really want good recordings etc.. something else would be better.

[txbanditrydr]

..also a decent 'bump' seems to often cause corruption to the video/file.

It's neat to play around with, but if you really want good recordings etc.. something else would be better.
I had the same problem when mounting on the engine guard... I cut a piece of stryofoam about the size of a quarter to place between the cap and the SD card - that kept the SD card in place and no more corrupted files (other than sloppy riding) :rofl:

[txbanditrydr]

Here's a helmet mounted vid I put together earlier this year.

ETEX RIDE (http://media.putfile.com/New-Years-Eve-Ride)

Not sure how long this will stay on the host site due to the music but thought I'd try.

[Tx Rider]

That vid didn't look too bad for the price, seemed like a lot was out of focus though.

[gotdurt]

I would have been tempted to tape a lot more on the AZ trip if I didn't have to deal with the wires, seperate vid cam, etc.

[Squeaky]

Anybody know how to get my XL1s on the bike where it won't be in the way?
http://www.canondvguide.com/xl1s.jpg
:lol2:

Yeah - hand it to the passenger! :cool2:

[Tx Rider]

I would have been tempted to tape a lot more on the AZ trip if I didn't have to deal with the wires, seperate vid cam, etc.

That's what I was thinking, helmet cam that actually got used more as it's simpler to deal with. I really don't care for any cabling, even the earbud cables going from my jacket pocket to my ears bothers me some.

[1TallTXn]

Yeah - hand it to the passenger! :cool2:
well, I guess that's an option if my passengers knew how to use the thing

[Tourmeister]

:tab Before Snoopster started riding her own bike, she spent a good bit of time on the back of my VFR 800, with Beth riding her own VFR 800. For a LONG time, Snoopster was a white knuckler hang on type of passenger. One day up in Arkansas, on a seriously twisty road, I managed to con her into carrying the camcorder to get some shots. She HAD to learn to just grip with her legs and trust that she would not go flying off the bike. After that, she rarely ever hung on again :lol2:

[kstrs]

The pluses include compactness, SD card, long battery life and truly plug and play with XP. Minuses include tiny buttons that aren't glove friendly, no viewfinder for aiming and limited mounting options (no 1/4-20 mounting screw/plate).

On a scale of 1 to 5 I would give it a 3.5

What kind of battery life are you getting? & what batts. are you using?

I know a couple of guys that have this helmet cam & they cant get a full hour out of fresh batts. & yes the buttons are ridiculous even without gloves on. I've been holding off on getting one because of these issues.

[txbanditrydr]

What kind of battery life are you getting? & what batts. are you using?

I've been using Duracell Alkalines with no problems.... I haven't really tried to see what kind of life they have because I only have one SD card to fill - and that takes about 26 minutes of video. I suspect the lithuim batteries would really help out with longevity.

Again... this unit is really for those who want to dabble a bit without dropping a ton of money. It helped that I received it as a gift and if I could get a better mounting system on the cheap I'd mess with it some more.

[Hemibee]

Alex got one for Christmas last year but has only used it once. Had no problem with the battery life on the 2GB card. He is still trying to get the proper angle figured out on his. Isn't this the same helmetcam that Texas DR uses or is he using the Tony Hawk cam?

[pbureau69]

It helped that I received it as a gift and if I could get a better mounting system on the cheap I'd mess with it some more.

well Thanks guys, I want to dabble, and wife keeps asking me what I want for my B-day, so I forwarded the cam thing to my wife for my November birthday :0

Will get some video's done then :)

[Squeaky]

I got the Oregon Scientific camera, and so far I like it (but I haven't mounted it yet). It seems easy enough, and the video is good enough quality for what I'm looking to do with it.

I'll post up some samples once I get the bike back and get it mounted up (I'm thinking brake resv.).

[TxSandman]

I have the same cam, and for the 1st time got some decent video with it last monday. My biggest problem was aiming it, I ride offroad and my 1st 2 attempts were either too low or two high. 2 weeks ago I tried it out at Cherokee CP and had it peeled off my helmet by a low branch. All files were gone, total loss. Last week at Outlaw I got an hour of video with no problems, the sound quality wasn't good but the video was decent. I don't have it hosted anywhere or I would post up a sample. It's worth the $90 at amazon.com.

[Squeaky]

Yup, got it on sale at Amazon.
I was figuring mounting it, riding a few minutes, checking the vid for aim, then adjusting and checking again until I had it down pat.

[HarleyMXR]

http://www.heartratemonitorsusa.com/Pages/OREGON/AT18-camera.html

$88 free ship

[txbanditrydr]

If any unsatisfied users happen to have a spare helmet mount bracket laying around I'd appreciate a holler. I've lost that piece (1" square plastic that mates to the camera mount) and need another.

Darn shame they don't supply a tripod mount system from the factory.

[Squeaky]

If any unsatisfied users happen to have a spare helmet mount bracket laying around I'd appreciate a holler. I've lost that piece (1" square plastic that mates to the camera mount) and need another.

Darn shame they don't supply a tripod mount system from the factory.

I thought about that. I think they need to make additional parts available to buy - I'd rather keep one plate mounted on each bike instead of haivng to move it over (considering how tough they are to line up without a viewfinder) and at least a tripot mount screw thingy on the bottom so it could fit everything we already have.

[McLeod]

Wonder if you could use a laser pointer taped to the side to help with aim?

[King_O_Road]

:puke:

But them I'm extremely picky on my video quality.

Anybody know how to get my XL1s on the bike where it won't be in the way?
http://www.canondvguide.com/xl1s.jpg
:lol2:

http://geocities.com/Area51/Capsule/8333/ducttape/2rolls.gif
:rofl: :lol2: :rofl: :lol2: :rofl: :lol2: :rofl: :lol2: :rofl: :lol2: :rofl: :lol2: :rofl: :lol2: :rofl: :lol2: :rofl:

[McLeod]

OUCH!!!!!!!!!! :rofl:

[Elistan]

Just ordered one for $80-something from Amazon. We'll see. Hopefully it'll work in the car as well. I hope to mount it UNDER the bike facing the rear tire during my next track day. :)

[Squeaky]

Hopefully it'll work in the car as well.

I haven't tried it on the bike or helmet yet, but I did mount it in my car today and recorded my commute to work. IT ROCKS!

I used the bar mount that it came with and attached it to the grab rail on the driver's side. Between the rotating base and the camera pivot itself, I was able to get a nice clear view through the windshield.

**Need help on audio - when I use the SD card to transfer the files over, I can't hear any sound on the laptop. When I plug the camers (with SD card still in) into the AUX input on the VCR, I have sound just fine. I know it's recording it, but what is my computer doing with the sound??

[txbanditrydr]

You might look at the advanced sound properties (Double click the volume icon on the task bar) and see if there's a line volume control that needs to be adjusted. Just a suggestion. I never found the audio to be worth a flip anyway - voices were especially hard to hear.

[Squeaky]

I figure most of the time I'll be dubbing music over video clips, but I know it's recording the audio so I figured I'd try to "find" it somewhere.

Where are the sound properties? The cam itself only has video proterties in the menus as far as I can tell. Plus the same video is playing sound on my VCR but not on my computer.

Yes, the speakers are on and turned up... (before someone even says it)

[txbanditrydr]

(Double click the volume icon on the task bar)

On your computer.....

[sparkyphotog]

Here is the helmet camera (http://www.vio-pov.com/) that I want. It is expensive, but it's built for hard use and the buttons are glove-friendly. One cool feature is the loop mode. You can set it to contiously record, then when something cool happens, you hit the button and it writes the last minute of video (or whatever time frame you set) out to the memory card. Lots of mounting options, too.

[kstrs]

Here is the helmet camera (http://www.vio-pov.com/) that I want. <snip> .

That is a very nice setup, the screen is a nice feature for aiming purposes & a wireless remote placed on the bars would be sweet. It also has slightly better resolution than the atc-2k (which may reduce recording time), but I think a wire from my helmet to any component elswhere would be very cumbersome & the atc-2k functions essentially the same (with the above exceptions) for 1/10 the price though so I'll stick with it.

[Con-Man]

Interesting, this subject coming up. I just finished soldering the connections on my latest invention. I found a color security camera at the Harbor Freight store for $40 it has RCA output for video and sound. I will be recording the video on my Sony Handycam dcr hc30. It is about half the size of the Oregon camera. It also has a wider field of view. as soon as I get a chance to try it out I will post the results.

Stephen

[TexasShadow]

The memory card speed may also be a factor. A 2GB can range from 9-20MB/sec. Faster card is more expensive but from my experience with DSLR's, worth the price. Especially with action shots.

[Con-Man]

Well I'm sorry to say but the cheap security cam was cheap for a reason. I had to rewire the camera to get rid of 80 ft of cord but that was no problem. I had it working great on the test bench. The next day I went to install on the bike and it would not power up. Back to the bench and a thorough inspection reveled no problems with my connections. I guess this camera is not built to take any movement or vibration. So, now that Ive modified it I can't take it back so I'm out $40 for this lesson. :doh: Back to the drawing board. maybe I will try this next http://www.metacafe.com/watch/419684/single_use_video_camera_hack_use_it_over_and_over/

[Squeaky]

Con-Man, I saw that a while back and it looks like a great alternative to expensive cameras, but I think it still maintains the 30-minute limit before you have to offload the data and start again.

I am really liking the Oregon Scientific so far. Haven't used it on the bike or helmet, but here's how it looks from the car: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6010461074168925651&hl=en

[TexasShadow]

I am really liking the Oregon Scientific so far. Haven't used it on the bike or helmet, but here's how it looks from the car: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6010461074168925651&hl=en

Is the "Part 2 of 2" yours, too?

Question: how does the resolution on the uploaded video on the hosting site compare to actual vid footage (before compression or uploaded to hosting site)?

[Squeaky]

Part 2?
This vid was just one piece, but if you're looking at "more vids fromthis user" that could be almost anything. Feel free to look through what I've made if you want, but I can't guarantee any entertainment value. :lol2:

I did compress the video down to host online, but the original video files are pretty close to actual speeds. I chose a cheap (aka slow) SD card because I wasn't sure how good the quality would be to start messing with more expensive cards, but the vid you see there I believe is the middle setting for resolution on the camera itself. The low quality setting is VERY grainy and hard to watch, but gets you MUCH more time on the same sized card.

I want to look into getting more (and better) cards, but not until I try it out on the bike and helmet. I've heard the shaking can get annoying when you watch it, so I don't want to spend money on future vids if they aren't going to be worth watching.

[kstrs]

Part 2?
This vid was just one piece, but if you're looking at "more vids fromthis user" that could be almost anything. Feel free to look through what I've made if you want, but I can't guarantee any entertainment value. :lol2:

I did compress the video down to host online, but the original video files are pretty close to actual speeds. I chose a cheap (aka slow) SD card because I wasn't sure how good the quality would be to start messing with more expensive cards, but the vid you see there I believe is the middle setting for resolution on the camera itself. The low quality setting is VERY grainy and hard to watch, but gets you MUCH more time on the same sized card.

I want to look into getting more (and better) cards, but not until I try it out on the bike and helmet. I've heard the shaking can get annoying when you watch it, so I don't want to spend money on future vids if they aren't going to be worth watching.

The one of Carly's dismount from Rusty's bike is rather entertaining:clap:

Keep us posted of any improvement you may notice if you go with a higher end card, I'm betting you'll be satisfied with the cheapies though.

[Squeaky]

Ok, here's the evidence so we can all decide. I've done video clips of 10 seconds each (Movie Maker said 10, Google says 9) in high, medium, and low resolution. On top of that, I've uploaded both a compressed and uncompressed copy of each.

Tell me what you think is a reasonable level of quality that is acceptable for standard ride reports, given the space consumption and file sizes.

Low Res Compressed = 160 x 120
10 sec = 553 kb
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2468598886126014068&hl=en


Low Res Uncompressed = 160 x 120
10 sec = 994 kb
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1320670274836753824&hl=en


Med Res Compressed = 320 x 240
10 sec = 588 kb
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2414678454718045290&hl=en


Med Res Uncompressed = 320 x 240
10 sec = 1436 kb
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7373352569633891925&hl=en


High Res Compressed = 640 x 480
10 sec = 1272 kb
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-931017713724390180&hl=en


High Res Uncompressed = 640 x 480
10 sec = 2962 kb
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5034020026812655833&hl=en

[TexasShadow]

Ok, here's the evidence so we can all decide.Hi resolution. However, I see no difference on the uploaded vids between compressed and uncompressed.

[Squeaky]

The 2 gig card can get about an hour at hi res, but medium can go about twice that. I know I don't want to stop every hour, and every two is much closer to needing fuel stops and offloading the vid while I'm stopped.

Or I could put for the effort to turn the cam on and off when the roads get better or more boring.

[kstrs]

The 2 gig card can get about an hour at hi res, but medium can go about twice that. I know I don't want to stop every hour, and every two is much closer to needing fuel stops and offloading the vid while I'm stopped.

Or I could put for the effort to turn the cam on and off when the roads get better or more boring.


I elected to just get a few 2g cards & rechargable AA batts, then just swap card & batts after about an hour of riding time. I only use mine offroad though so stopping is much easier to do (& necessary for a chubby dude like me), from my experience with the atc-2k you'll be pushing your luck trying to get more than an hour of recording time in on standard alkaline batts anyway.

[Squeaky]

I elected to just get a few 2g cards & rechargable AA batts, then just swap card & batts after about an hour of riding time. I only use mine offroad though so stopping is much easier to do (& necessary for a chubby dude like me), from my experience with the atc-2k you'll be pushing your luck trying to get more than an hour of recording time in on standard alkaline batts anyway.

I used the camera a few times in the truck to/from work, test shots playing with it, and I got almost two hours of vid after the pie run, with time in between that the camera was on but not recording. I haven't seen it need batteries yet, but now I'll know to carry extras.

[Warpbender]

I have had my Twenty 20 helmet cam since may, used it maybe 4 or 5 times and now they go and make this....
http://www.vholdr.com/index.php

[TexasShadow]

http://www.vholdr.com/index.php

It looks promising, but the real beef will be in the videos. I'm surprised they don't have even one on their site. I'm sure they have had a prototype to provide a sample.

[Squeaky]

Ok, I'll let y'all decide which position is the most promising. None are great, but I need to figure out which is least nausea-inducing angle for the viewer - move with my head or move with the bike?


Mounted on the brake resorvoir:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5872794726938023304&hl=en

Mounted on the right side of my helmet:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2469860528860994427&hl=en

Mounted on the front fender:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7412980499870980131&hl=en

[thestudent]

:puke:

But them I'm extremely picky on my video quality.

Anybody know how to get my XL1s on the bike where it won't be in the way?
http://www.canondvguide.com/xl1s.jpg
:lol2:

great camera

[Bagwell]

I thought about that. I think they need to make additional parts available to buy - I'd rather keep one plate mounted on each bike instead of haivng to move it over (considering how tough they are to line up without a viewfinder) and at least a tripot mount screw thingy on the bottom so it could fit everything we already have.

I am not sure you want it mounted to your XR. I would do helmet for dirt, otherwise you will just have a jumbled mess of a video. :)

[NUTT]

Added to my Christmas list.

[TexasShadow]

I am not sure you want it mounted to your XR. I would do helmet for dirt, otherwise you will just have a jumbled mess of a video. :)Yup. Helmet works better.

Speaking of which, what do y'all use for editing AVI vids?
The resolution on the 2GB SD Extreme card is very decent! Better than I thought it would be. Fast write speed. The cam survived a deluge during the first water crossing :mrgreen:

[Squeaky]

Are you a Mac girl? I use Win Movie Maker (whatever version came with Vista) and like it so far. It took a little getting used to because I don't read instructions...

[TexasShadow]

Are you a Mac girl? I use Win Movie Maker (whatever version came with Vista) and like it so far. It took a little getting used to because I don't read instructions... *giggle* I do both; experiment within an allotted time, then read instructions if not too peed off. ;)

I have both: MacBook Pro, which I use 99% of the time, and a Shuttle box with big flat screen running Windows Home XP on desk in home office (which I hardly use anymore; it's a bike gear room mostly). If I can import AVI files to iMovie, then I can edit it with that. I think. I haven't used it yet.

[Wasabi]

Here is the helmet camera (http://www.vio-pov.com/) that I want. It is expensive, but it's built for hard use and the buttons are glove-friendly. One cool feature is the loop mode. You can set it to contiously record, then when something cool happens, you hit the button and it writes the last minute of video (or whatever time frame you set) out to the memory card. Lots of mounting options, too.

I really like what I have read about this camera. Here is an interesting review.

http://www.magxzine.com/modules.cfm?name=MReviews&op=show&rid=95

Bill

[Con-Man]

I got an ATC2K For Christmas (Thanks Santa) and mounted the camera just under my front fairing. I thought the video was fairly good for an inexpensive camera. On playback on my computer the video was good, when posted as below the video is just OK. I suspect if I were to use my handy cam and then have the video compressed to fit on You tube I would have a similar outcome. I think I can use the raw video to produce my own ride "movies" mixed with some video from the handy cam and be happy with it. some things I found out are, mounted to a secure spot the road vibrations don't cause a problem, Its best to film on a full sun day, on my bike the video became "wavy" at a certain rpm of my engine but this was at hard acceleration and about 80 MPH. Keep it smooth and everything should be fine.

http://www.onetruemedia.com/otm_site/view_shared?p=49eeadbc846d84abda587f&source=category&category_id=all

Stephen

[Tx Rider]

Have any of you that bought one of these tried a 4GB SD card in one?

Some gadgets that do 2GB cards read 4GB just fine, others don't. Probably depending on the internal chipset.

[kstrs]

Have any of you that bought one of these tried a 4GB SD card in one?

Some gadgets that do 2GB cards read 4GB just fine, others don't. Probably depending on the internal chipset.

The atc2k will not work with sdhc (4/8gig) cards, I've never checked this but have been told the sdhc cards have 2 additional contact points, thus a totally different interface. The atc2k is designed for sd, therefore sdhc wont work (I wish they would). Equipment with the newer design will interface with both.

[TexasShadow]

The atc2k will not work with sdhc (4/8gig) cards, I've never checked this but have been told the sdhc cards have 2 additional contact points, thus a totally different interface. The atc2k is designed for sd, therefore sdhc wont work (I wish they would). Equipment with the newer design will interface with both.What differentiates a 'sd' and 'sdhc' card? I bought and formatted a super fast 2 GB card for same helmet cam and it works just fine. In fact, resolution is a tad better than regular SD card.

[WoodButcher]

The atc2k will not work with sdhc (4/8gig) cards, I've never checked this but have been told the sdhc cards have 2 additional contact points, thus a totally different interface. The atc2k is designed for sd, therefore sdhc wont work (I wish they would). Equipment with the newer design will interface with both.

Same pins on the card, but uses a different way to access memory on card. Standard cards can only go to 4gb. To go beyond they had to use sdhc. Some 4gb cards are standard and some are hc. above that, all are hc. My GPS didn't support hc when I got it, but a firmware upgrade allows it to use them now.

wikipedia has a nice technical article about it if you want to learn more.

unfortunately my cheapo card reader doesn't support hc cards and I have to plug my camera directly to my laptop to pull off of it.

[sparkyphotog]

*giggle* I do both; experiment within an allotted time, then read instructions if not too peed off. ;)

I have both: MacBook Pro, which I use 99% of the time, and a Shuttle box with big flat screen running Windows Home XP on desk in home office (which I hardly use anymore; it's a bike gear room mostly). If I can import AVI files to iMovie, then I can edit it with that. I think. I haven't used it yet.

Have you been able to import AVI files into iMovie yet? I'm a Mac guy as well. Wondering if it works or not. Thanks.

[TexasShadow]

Have you been able to import AVI files into iMovie yet? I'm a Mac guy as well. Wondering if it works or not. Yup. If I remember correctly, I installed a plug-in. (or was that something else...)
I imported the avi from the helmet cam card (via the desktop PC) into iMovie, then snipped and put together a vid of the water crossing from Tennessee, music and all. Very cool.

I still have yet to test downloading vids directly off the helmet cam to the MacBook. I might try that Ponder Day. :trust:
I want to use the helmet cam next month in Big Bend.

[sparkyphotog]

Yup. If I remember correctly, I installed a plug-in. (or was that something else...)
I imported the avi from the helmet cam card (via the desktop PC) into iMovie, then snipped and put together a vid of the water crossing from Tennessee, music and all. Very cool.

I still have yet to test downloading vids directly off the helmet cam to the MacBook. I might try that Ponder Day. :trust:
I want to use the helmet cam next month in Big Bend.

Sounds cool. I'm probably going to get the POV1 (http://www.vio-pov.com/) though. I really like that looping feature, and it's the only camera I've seen that has it.

[TexasShadow]

Sounds cool. I'm probably going to get the POV1 (http://www.vio-pov.com/) though. I really like that looping feature, and it's the only camera I've seen that has it. Nice. But a hefty price. I'd rather use the $750 difference on bike maintenance/upkeep plus a GPS ;)

[sparkyphotog]

Nice. But a hefty price. I'd rather use the $750 difference on bike maintenance/upkeep plus a GPS ;)

Well, after what I found today, I may be re-thinking that idea as well. Not a camera, but another fun toy. I'll post more info later if I get it.

[sparkyphotog]

It looks promising, but the real beef will be in the videos. I'm surprised they don't have even one on their site. I'm sure they have had a prototype to provide a sample.

The TwentyTwenty folks now have video samples (http://www.vholdr.com/shoot/camera/samples) up on their web site. Looks awesome!

[Azylum]

just an idea, but heres how i did mine originally:

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m81/zcarninja/d39a28b6.jpg

just a camera case mounted to the front of the helmet with velcro. works great!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgCzROjsN24

[Con-Man]

Sam's Club Has the Oregon Scientific cameras for $88

Stephen

[XoZe]

A ram type mount would be ideal if you could fit the camera to it. If anyone has one of these and can offer mounting suggestions I'd appreciate it. One of the reasons I don't do more with it is the mounting difficulty.... then there's the editing part - heck, I can't seem to get my still shot organized. I'd post a vid clip but I don't have anyway to link to it.

I use a ram mount on the handlebars with either a Sony Handycam or a Sony DSC-W55 but I do get some vibration with both...I need to figure out what kind of dampening I can use. Thought about liquid snake in the bars.

[ulric]

within a month or tow, somehow I suceeded in breaking the plastic 'hinge' on the battery/sd compartment. I also found the buttons a bit of a pain to use.

kicked around picking up the 'gopro' unit and trying it instead.

[sparkyphotog]

Have you been able to import AVI files into iMovie yet? I'm a Mac guy as well. Wondering if it works or not. Thanks.

By the way, iMovie '08 handles AVI files just fine. :thumb: