Uncle's Ride the Rio - Feb 21 - 24, 2008

[Richard_]

Uncle's Ride the Rio Non-Event
Feb 21 - 24, 2008
Dual sport and Street Riding in the Big Bend

Big Bend is full of fantastic motorcycling adventures. From one of the best twisty paved roads in Texas (Hwy 170 from Terlingua, TX to Presidio, TX) to the best dual sport road in Texas (Pinto Canyon Road), Big Bend is a motorcycling paradise. It doesn't matter whether you ride a street-only motorcycle, an adventure touring bike, or a true "street legal dirt bike" there are a wealth of riding opportunities for all motorcyclists in the Big Bend area.

Uncle's Ride the Rio Non-Event: Uncle is pleased to sponsor this "non-event" event and invites all motorcyclists to join him the last weekend in February for a long weekend of motorcycling adventure. Ride, trailer, or otherwise get you and your bike out to Big Bend on or around Thursday, Feb 21th. Spend Friday and Saturday exploring the Big Bend. Head home on Sunday.

Is this the same Ride the Rio event that's been put on for the past 12 years or so? Yes and no. The gentleman who has been the primary organizer of the Ride the Rio event since it was started a dozen or more years ago decided to move on to other things. Uncle thought the Ride the Rio was too much fun to let die so he stepped up to continue the tradition, with a few changes - namely making it a non-event event and to encourage increased participation by dual sport/adventure riders.

What is a "non-event" event? It means this ride isn't like other organized rides & rallies. No sign up. No registration fee. No banquets. No set schedule to follow. Just show up, ride, and have a great time. Whether you attend by yourself or bring your friends, there will be others to ride with. Ride when you want, where you want, in the middle of winter and in the middle of nowhere. Team up and head out on an adventure. Got a few extra days off? Then come on out early. Or stay a few days late. Uncle will be around and he's a friendly guy. He can recommend roads to ride, or ride with you, or drink a beer with you, or even toss a few horseshoes with you in the evening (especially if you are buying the beer).

Morning & Evening: Riders are invited to converge each morning at 9 a.m. at Kathy's Kosmic Kowgirl Kafe to meet up, find someone to ride with, and/or select the day's route. Come early if you want breakfast or to enjoy Kathy's campfire. Each evening there will be an informal rider gathering on the front porch of the Starlight Theater to drink a few beers, grab a meal, and share the adventures of the day.

Sleeping: Need a place to sleep? Grab a room at one of the local motels; there are several to choose from.

Uncle suggests the new El Dorado hotel in Terlingua as the "uncle approved" hotel of choice. It is a nice place to stay and is centrally located. Single rooms are $79 per night, doubles are $89 per night. Their phone number is 432-371-2111. Tell 'em Uncle sent you.

There are camp sites at the Study Butte Motor Lodge where you could pitch a tent for a few dollars. Or if room is available you might pitch your tent at Uncle's place. Or whatever.

Dirt or Street? Is this a dual sport event or a street bike event? Yes! It doesn't matter what you ride, there will be places to ride and people to ride with, so come on out. You won't regret it.

There are some awesome paved roads in the Big Bend area that really shouldn't be missed, especially if you are a Texas motorcyclist.

Uncle's got a nice DR350 dual sport bike and will probably be leading a dual sport ride off into the Big Bend boonies, so if you've always wanted to go play in the dirt at Big Bend this is a wonderful opportunity.

What if you don't have a motorcycle? That's okay, come on out anyway. There is lots of cool stuff to do in Big Bend in the middle of the winter and the weather is nice. Besides, we are probably going to need a designated driver or two each evening.

Who's In Charge Here? No one. You are. This is a non-event. No one is in charge and there isn't anyone to complain to if things aren't organized the way you would like them to be. Tell someone where you are riding to, though, so if you don't come back in the evening someone can alert the authorities to go looking for you.

Will it be Fun? Yes! No question about it! We are going to have so much fun, everything else may pale in comparison. If you haven't ridden in Big Bend before you simply don't know what you are missing. If you have, then you already know how much fun it is. In any case, if you miss it, you only have yourself to blame.

T-shirts? Stickers? I'm happy to report that dual sport adventure rider Ken Haley has designed a special commemorative shirt for Uncle's 2008 Ride the Rio. Ken made the shirts for the 2007 TAR and they came out great - highly quality screen printing on a quality t-shirt.

T-shirts are $15, Sweatshirts are $20 for sizes S - XL. Add $1 for each extra X (XXL t-shirt = $16, XXL sweatshirt = $21, etc.).

If you would like a Ride the Rio t-shirts then paypal your order, shirt size, & payment to Ken at kdhaley@hotmail.com.

Ken will deliver the shirts at the event.

Can we ride in Mexico? Not only yes, but we think you should seriously consider it. Actually, there is a really awesome canyon (Peguis Canyon) about 25 miles south of Ojinaga, Mexico that is well worth a visit. You don't need a passport or any paperwork to visit it either; just cross the border and head south, you can't miss it. For you dual sport riders, I've heard there is some good off-road riding in the desert outside Ojinaga. Somebody needs to go explore that area and get back to us with a good ride report.

In short, if you can't have fun on a motorcycle in Big Bend, you can't have fun on a motorycle. So, pack your bags and come on out. You are gonna have a great time. See you there.

[Tourmeister]

For those that have never been there, you might tell where Kosmic Kathy's is located and/or how to contact Uncle.

[Richard_]

For those that have never been there, you might tell where Kosmic Kathy's is located and/or how to contact Uncle.

Good idea. Thanks, Tourmeister.

Kathy's Kosmic Kowgirl Kafe is located on Hwy 170, about a mile west of the junction of Hwy 170 and Hwy 118.

Uncle can be contacted via phone at 580-364-2616 or email at rogerhazlewood@netscape.net

[mcrider]

It is hard to miss Kathy's, it is pink!
http://www.theoasisofmysoul.com/hundred/image/obj454geo368pg1p26.jpg

[dualsportrider]

:rider: I am very interested.:rider:

[beemerchef]

... and if you are this many, as it was a week ago... let her know the count in advance. If you have never been here, well, you are in for a treat...

http://beemerchef.smugmug.com/photos/211522061-XL.jpg

Be well... Ara & Spirit

[Rman of 237]

This sounds like a blast!!:rider: I also am very interested.8-)

[treysmagna]

This sounds like a lot of fun and a great test for my new Ulysses. I am going to do my best to make this one.

[Chris Mitchell]

I had the pleasure to ride the road from Presido to Terlingua in October last year. I cant tell you how much I enjoyed it, I was with two wild men who were really fast and we rode that road really fast from beginning to end. I was all for turning around and doing it again the other direction. We stopped to drink a beer at the place where you can turn out and throw rocks at Mexico. The whole time we were there I was secretly afraid the overhanging huge rocks would decide to let gravity have its way and fall on the three of us. I have had the want to go back again and do it all over again. How cold it it out there in February? The first week in last October was real nice with warm days and cold nights. The first of each days ride was a bit chilly but nothing to stop you if you have the right gear at hand. I just don't know about February, feed back anyone?

[slowoldguy]

Big Bend weather is nothing if not fickle. The Oilman and I did our version of Ice Capades last Easter. 2-3 inches of ice on everything including us. By the next day, suns out temp's rising. We had the park virtually to ourselves. Next day? Stupendous sunrise standing around a great mesquite fire at Kathy's on the way to 65 degrees (maybe it just felt like 65 degrees) and one of the best days you can have on a bike.

Just plan accordingly and you'll be fine.

[Richard_]

Chris,

I think the temps will be pleasant during the day and cold at night. It's the last weekend in Feb, so I'm figuring the temps will reach the mid-60s to low 70s during the day and high 30s / low 40s at night.

[Chris Mitchell]

Sounds good to me. I don't like riding in a strange place at night at any speed to speak of. Last time out there I saw way to many signs of auto deer accidents and I don't want to clobber some other four footed critter while riding at night. So I will be found in a nice warm bed after the sun goes down. 60 to 70 degrees will sit well with me for day time temps. I bought a heated vest a couple of years ago and have never been so glad to have one. I am almost 60 years young and the heat from that vest helps keep my lower back nice and comfortable and pain free. I also found a pair of Joe Rocket textile gloves about 3 years ago that absolutely do not allow moisture or cold in, and are very comfortable to wear. Have worn them into the single digit numbers on the temp gage with no problems. I am going to put my name on the calender at work for those days off so I can go. I really loved the roads down there and the absence of police in my mirrors. I would be interested in finding someone to perhaps share the cost of hotel charges if someone can be found. The hotel charges ate up a good bit of my budget for the ride last year. Last year I make the mistake of taking too much stuff along, this year I would take one change of clothing against the chance of a clothing disaster on the ride other wise would just wear the same stuff the whole time. Just don't ride right behind me if your nose is sensitive. Laughing.

[Richard_]

Chris,

Thanks for stopping to say hello this morning when you spotted us in the Albertson's parking lot in Oak Hill. It was nice to meet you.

[treysmagna]

I checked my work schedule and I am working days that weekend. Since I have already put in for vacation to the TAR I dont have any left to do this one. I would love to do it and guess I will have to put it on my list for 09

[Hotair]

I hope to make this one!!!! Hope to find a friend to ride with on Urals!! OLD SLOW GUY should be my name!!!! BUT I don't fall over!!;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) :rider: :rider: :rider: :rider: :rider:

[Chris Mitchell]

Hey Richard it was a total surprise when you all said yes to my question about being TWT members. I wish I had more time to sit and talk right then but I had issues at home to take care of. It was a pleasure to meet you and I hope I get a chance to meet with your group sometime. I hope the rain did not dampen your ride too much Saturday. Thanks again for introducing your self it was a pleasure.

[roughrider maximus]

I am going to make this one as well . I always try to make the BB outings . The last one in October (the Burl memorial) was in fact a good combination of racing and trail riding . Fred Hink of arrowhead motorsports in Moab Utah runs his cmc the very same way , using it as a non-event event! Sounds like fun . Roger and Richard should be commended for puting on a fine event like this!! THANKSguys . . . .I'LL see you there . Mike McSpadden :rider:

[Calgary-Yogi]

I am going to try and attend this one.

[Simmons1]

I am thinking about attending as well

[NUTT]

I'm considering this one.

[JimD]

Does anyone know who to contact about renting one of the cabins in the area?

[ramblinrog (aka) Uncle]

Jim, several places have cabins. I'll be back out there by Dec. 5th. Will get you the phone #s.

[ramblinrog (aka) Uncle]

Does anyone know who to contact about renting one of the cabins in the area?

Jim the Chisos Mining Co. Motel (aka) Easter Egg Valley Motel has cabins. Their # is 432 371 2254. Wildhorse Station alos has cabins. Their # is 432 371 2526. Also the Chisos Mining Co. Is located next door to Kathy's Kosmic Kowgirl Kafe.

[JimD]

Thanks for the info on the cabins...I will make reservations today. We have 3 or 4 of us planning on coming from Dallas. Sounds like a great trip. Always wanted to get to Big Bend and this seems like the best reason yet. See ya in February.

[DFW_Warrior]

Put me down as a maybe as well for this one. It looks like something that I could have quite a bit of fun on with my WR.

[Squeaky]

Put me down as a maybe as well for this one. It looks like something that I could have quite a bit of fun on with my WR.

My XR will be trying to keep up with your WR! :rider:
Count me in (unless I'm injured beyond repair on the January DS ride :lol2: )

[Calgary-Yogi]

I will be trailer-ing the "golf cart" down for this one.

I can add 1 maybe 2 more bikes on the trailer if anybody wants to tag along.

FYI - my SUV's fuel guage works and it is gas powered so no prime-ing required

[Squeaky]

I can add 1 maybe 2 more bikes on the trailer if anybody wants to tag along.
I'll take one of them 'thar spots if'n you'll have me. ;-)

FYI - my SUV's fuel guage works and it is gas powered so no prime-ing required
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Calgary-Yogi]

on one condition.....

Do not pack your regular bad jubjob behind

[dixonduke]

I will be trailer-ing the "golf cart" down for this one.

I can add 1 maybe 2 more bikes on the trailer if anybody wants to tag along.

FYI - my SUV's fuel guage works and it is gas powered so no prime-ing required

I'll take one of them 'thar spots if'n you'll have me. ;-)


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

DON'T DO IT. SHE IS A JINX! After all you know what she did to my truck, it has worked fine ever since she got out of it. Fuel Gauge "Check"; Radio "Check", Trailer Brakes "Check"... Put her in the truck and is russian roulette!:rider:

Sounds like fun. I am in.

[Squeaky]

DON'T DO IT. SHE IS A JINX!

Hi, pot? this is Duke's final drive calling. I'm here with kettle...

[DFW_Warrior]

My XR will be trying to keep up with your WR! :rider:
Count me in (unless I'm injured beyond repair on the January DS ride :lol2: )

I'll wait up for you.... how else would I be able to take all the pictures of you falling down!?!?!?!:rofl:

[Squeaky]

I'll wait up for you.... how else would I be able to take all the pictures of you falling down!?!?!?!:rofl:

You going to mount the cam on your back or something? Might be easier to just get behind me and enjoy the view... :trust:

:rofl:

[dixonduke]

just get behind me and enjoy the view... :trust:



Of license plates and other bits falling off the bike.:lol2:

[Squeaky]

I give up. :giveup:

I'll see y'all in Terlingua!

[Calgary-Yogi]

I give up. :giveup:

I'll see y'all in Terlingua!

Don't listen to them !!!!!!!!

You are more than welcome to ride with me

[Calgary-Yogi]

Who else can I blame if anything goes wrong :rofl:

[Bagwell]

hmmmmmm, I missed the TRH dual sport in the area this might be just the ticket.

[roughrider maximus]

;-) Hey Rich! How you doing my friend? I wanted to thank you for the call and the invite to the BB Uncle Ride. I will try like the Dickens to be there. I also would like to ask you if you have the number to the lazy T motel in Junction. I was out there recently with some friends, and the place was closed up and locked down tighter than a well diggers ***. You and yours have a happy happy. I suppose you already had a merry merry! C'Ya, Mike:lol2:

[roughrider maximus]

Hey Rich......I was just jerkin' yer chain about selling my '08. I'am keeping it.........OF COURSE!!!:eek2:

[FJR Bandit]

I had so much fun the last time I rode with Uncle that I'm ging to try and make it out for a day or a day and a half.

[Richard_]

Mike,

The Lazy T closed. Then the folks who own The Hills Motel in Junction bought it and have re-opened it. I don't have a phone number for them but will get it.

[KenH]

I was looking up accommodations for Ride to Rio and came across http://www.visitbigbend.com/maps_study.html . I hope this helps with the planning everyone is doing.

I plan to be there Wednesday afternoon or Thursday morning in time to ride a bit and stay until Sunday morning. It's about 550 miles and I'll be pressed for travel time, so I'll trailer down since the TW doesn't do well on the highway with headwinds. I'll probably stay in the cheapest campground with a hot shower and sleep in the van. Anyone want to share a campsite to save money?

Study Butte RV Park $18 no showers or restrooms
Big Bend Motor Inn and RV Park $12 with restrooms, pay showers ($2/6 minutes showers)

It seems water is VERY expensive, so more than 2 people/site is additional.

[BMWbabe]

I got approved too. I think I can make this as well. Yay!

[Voni]

You might give the Cowhead Ranch a try:

http://cowheadranch.com/

Very reasonable prices and a real old west experience!

Cowboy Chris loves motorcycles too.

Just 25 sMiles north of Study Butte on 118.

Just across the road from our adobe. See you all in February!

Voni
sMiling

[Outlaw6Guy]

Oh man................I'm in!

[beemerchef]

Uncle... Roger... check your e mails...

Watch out at the Cowhead Ranch... she "will" tear up your head somehow!!! Could ruin your stay... depends what mood she is in... most of the time "rude"... The only person I have ever met in Terlingua that was so unpleasant! <don't say you have not been warned!>. You are better off camping...

Be well... Ara & Spirit

[DFW_Warrior]

Thanks for the heads up Ara! I'm going to be camping one way or another when I go. Now I just need to find a good place to stay.

[KenH]

Thanks for the heads up Ara! I'm going to be camping one way or another when I go. Now I just need to find a good place to stay.

Want to share a campsite? I'll be staying at the Big Bend Inn and RV Park, sleeping in the van. Location is #s 5, 6, and 7 on http://www.visitbigbend.com/maps_study.html . Gas, groceries, and restaurant 6:00AM to 10:00PM so no running around wasting time with necessities. $19/night plus $2/6 minutes of hot shower. I'll split the $19, but you're on your own for the shower.

[beemerchef]

Want to share a campsite? I'll be staying at the Big Bend Inn and RV Park, sleeping in the van. Location is #s 5, 6, and 7 on http://www.visitbigbend.com/maps_study.html . Gas, groceries, and restaurant 6:00AM to 10:00PM so no running around wasting time with necessities. $19/night plus $2/6 minutes of hot shower. I'll split the $19, but you're on your own for the shower.


Get your groceries and fuel (as much as you can) in Alpine. It will save you much $! In Terlingua shop. fuel also, at the Stude Butte store and NOT where you will be camping, big price difference.

Be well... Ara & Spirit

[DFW_Warrior]

Want to share a campsite? I'll be staying at the Big Bend Inn and RV Park, sleeping in the van.

Thanks for the offer Ken. I need to ask this first, how big are the campsites? I've got my truck and trailer that will be coming, and Graeme will be coming up from Houston as well in a truck/trailer combo. But worst case if there isn't enough room, I can just book a second site near by.

[KenH]

I can't answer your questions. Many private campgrounds only allow one tow vehicle per site. That means everyone who tows will have to have a separate site, unless one rig can be parked at Uncle's or something. Call Big Bend RV Park and ask. For reservations 1-800-848-2363. For information 1-432-371-2218.

Ara, thanks for the advice about hauling in groceries and fuel. I intend to do just that, along with fresh water. Peace and joy.

[TexasShadow]

Anyone from DFW area leaving Wed after work or early Thursday morning? I can't take off Wednesday. :argh:

[DFW_Warrior]

Wednesday after work, yes... but it's going to be an early day (somewhere around noon'ish). That way we still get into the Big Bend area at a somewhat decent hour.

[TexasShadow]

Wednesday after work, yes... but it's going to be an early day (somewhere around noon'ish). That way we still get into the Big Bend area at a somewhat decent hour. If I work the Saturday before I *might* be able to leave early Wed. Otherwise, I can't until after 4 pm. :(

If the former works, I can be packed and ready to load Tuesday night if that helps. I'll be minimalizing it. ;)

[DFW_Warrior]

You're welcome to join us if your schedule works out the right way. The more to share the cost of a gas guzzling truck, the better!!!:trust:

[TexasShadow]

You're welcome to join us if your schedule works out the right way. The more to share the cost of a gas guzzling truck, the better!!!:trust:Agreed. And more fun.
I'll keep you updated. Thanks!

[GSer]

I will definitely be there. I am stopping in San Antonio to meet up with a friend who is going also.

I haven't been to Terlingua since last October, and Kathy's pulled pork sandwiches are already calling me. :eat:

http://rstallones.smugmug.com/photos/215185962-L.jpg

[chopperbob]

Plan on making this one for sure. Will be camping at the Big Bend RV Park in
Study Butte with the rv, utility trailer and two bikes. Will look for the guys who are sleeping in the van. Plan on leaving Spicewood Wed am in case any body wants to know. Buddy has a Yam XT225 first bike and is a beginer so will be taking it easy most of the time. Plan on hitting the road behind the ghost town (the one with the little wood red arrows) its a fun road and it works for novices and cant wait to ride the River Road and any other dirt road in the park for that matter. Looking foreward to seeing everybody at Kosmic Kathys.
Bob
2007 TE510
2001 883/1200R

[Hood Ornament]

I'm in for now along with a couple others. Will know for sure as it gets closer.

[DS-Jack]

I am overdue for a trip to big bend.... see you there.

[DS-Jack]

I am overdue for a trip to the Big Bend.... see you there.

[ramblinrog (aka) Uncle]

Anyone wanting to dry camp, I have 2 locations close to my place. One is Garth Park across the hwy. from the ghostown. The other is property you have to cross to get to my place. Both have flat areas for tents or trailers. Garth Park has fire rings and an outhouse. If interested get in touch.

[rocketbunny]

If I can get the GS prepped for long highway travel in the next month, I'm in. I'll probably camp in Study Butte.

[chopperbob]

Uncle, thanks for the invite. I cant commit till I know if the wifey is coming.
As soon as I know for sure I would like to check it out. At this time, all I know is that I am going to make it for sure.
Bob

[Voni]

Watch out at the Cowhead Ranch... she "will" tear up your head somehow!!! Could ruin your stay... depends what mood she is in... most of the time "rude"... The only person I have ever met in Terlingua that was so unpleasant! <don't say you have not been warned!>. You are better off camping...
\

Funny. She only has the nicest things to say about you.

The Cowhead Ranch is a really unique experience. I hope you all don't let sour grapes keep you from enjoying the fun there.

Voni

[beemerchef]

Funny. She only has the nicest things to say about you.

The Cowhead Ranch is a really unique experience. I hope you all don't let sour grapes keep you from enjoying the fun there.

Voni

What is even "funnier", "strange" maybe... and then again "normal" since she is now a good neighbor of yours, is that a few weeks ago "you" agreed very strongly that she was the most unpleasant person in the area... I know they live right across from you guys, 25 miles + away from the fun, and I don't blame you for trying to promote her Ranch... but, one has to say it the way it is... as I did and stand on my observation... My reports are always accurate as I am also asked for them to be, the reason why I had brought up the conversation that day, just wanting to make sure I was not on a tangent. 15 months on the road later and meeting many people, she has truly been an exception...

But, anyhow, this is not what this thread is all about... sorry for the deviation.

You all have a great time... as you will.

Be well... Ara & Spirit

[DFW_Warrior]

Funny. She only has the nicest things to say about you.

The Cowhead Ranch is a really unique experience. I hope you all don't let sour grapes keep you from enjoying the fun there.

Voni

Some people don't know their being rude. I know this because I've met plenty of them. They just think that they are as normal as can be, meanwhile, no one cares to be around them. I'm not saying that this is the case for sure, but I've seen it on more than one occasion. Just a thought.

[TexasShadow]

Some people don't know their being rude. I know this because I've met plenty of them. They just think that they are as normal as can be, meanwhile, no one cares to be around them. I'm not saying that this is the case for sure, but I've seen it on more than one occasion. Just a thought. I agree. What may be direct and forthcoming behaviour is often interpreted as rude by others. I can see how that may be more common than not down there because the harsh environment tends to breed a harsh character. That does not mean the intention is rude. That's just the way people are in such places.

Social environments usually match the land environment, especially in places that are unforgiving. No time to kittyfoot, beat around the bush and placate people with niceties, but they can also give you the shirt off their back and open their doors and hearths to others.

[NUTT]

I'm considering this one.

The more I see the pictures, the more I realize that I have to get out to Big Bend. I'm a "stronger" maybe.

[WoodButcher]

Stars are starting to align for me on this one. Kid has volleyball tournaments on the weekends before and after and as long as I can coordinate some vacation days for the ride, I'm in. Now, what bike to take? Transalp or WR? or both?

[YZF Cathy]

My starz are aligned too. If I sell my R6 beforehand I'll get a suitable bike.....otherwise I'll use my secret weapon "Albie" and get to use one of his. :)

Great frineds are great indeed Thanks Albie!

[Skillet]

Anyone wanting to dry camp, I have 2 locations close to my place. One is Garth Park across the hwy. from the ghostown. The other is property you have to cross to get to my place. Both have flat areas for tents or trailers. Garth Park has fire rings and an outhouse. If interested get in touch.

Roger,

If there is space left in the property near yours, I would like to stay a few days. I am bringing the XR and am hoping to ride some of the stuff we didn't have time for in October during the Burl Hughes Memorial Dual-Sport (e.g. Black Gap, Old Ore, River Road).

Cheers,

Ben

[norm sorensen]

Richard,
I've got a room at the ElDorado Hotel for three nights. I haven't done this ride before and am realy looking forward. I'm from McKinney, Tx. and will be going on to El Paso after the ride so I'm trailering my DL1000. Mixing work with alittle riding. Hope for nice weather see ya There.

Norm Sorensen

[WoodButcher]

Well, looks like I'm going to be able to make this one. I know chopperbob is heading out from south austin and might be able to take me and one bike, but I'm wondering if anybody is heading out from north austin and wants to split gas costs with me? I'd like to take both my WR250F and Transalp. I have a trailer that can carry 3 bikes.

Also, Roger have you been keeping track of how many people would like to stay at your place or the lots near you? I'd be interested in camping if chopperbob doesn't have space for me. Thanks

[TexasShadow]

Warning for anyone tent camping down there: free-standing tent or not, you'll need really strong and narrow stakes to anchor your tent down in the winds. I also suggest using guylines.

Much of the desert floor is hard limestone shale. Hard. Real hard. And the wind can whip a weakly secured tent up into the air or collapse it. I've been there (aka in one that threatened to fly off several times; anchored it with rocks) and seen at least one collapsed big tent in the park.

I'm ordering 10" tent nails (supposedly they can go through almost anything with help from a mallet) and reflective guyline. Also taking a tarp for underneath the tent and a moving blanket to put on the inside floor of the tent (helps it stay warm and cushions the rocks from underneath).

Otherwise, enjoy the coyotes and sunrises/sunsets. :sun:

[Calgary-Yogi]

I use 8-10 inch nails from Lowes/HomeDepot. Way cheaper than "tent nails" I bet.

Warning for anyone tent camping down there: free-standing tent or not, you'll need really strong and narrow stakes to anchor your tent down in the winds. I also suggest using guylines.

Much of the desert floor is hard limestone shale. Hard. Real hard. And the wind can whip a weakly secured tent up into the air or collapse it. I've been there (aka in one that threatened to fly off several times; anchored it with rocks) and seen at least one collapsed big tent in the park.

I'm ordering 10" tent nails (supposedly they can go through almost anything with help from a mallet) and reflective guyline. Also taking a tarp for underneath the tent and a moving blanket to put on the inside floor of the tent (helps it stay warm and cushions the rocks from underneath).

Otherwise, enjoy the coyotes and sunrises/sunsets. :sun:

[TexasShadow]

I use 8-10 inch nails from Lowes/HomeDepot. Way cheaper than "tent nails" I bet.Maybe (2 for $2.50). But these have a catch on the tops for hooking guy wires as well as tent loops.

[Calgary-Yogi]

If your talking about that Orange plastic thingies. One hit on the plastic with a hammer on a cold day and they break off :doh:
That is why I switched to nails.

Maybe (2 for $2.50). But these have a catch on the tops for hooking guy wires as well as tent loops.

[TexasShadow]

If your talking about that Orange plastic thingies. One hit on the plastic with a hammer on a cold day and they break off :doh:
That is why I switched to nails. Rubber mallet?

[DFW_Warrior]

REI, sells extra heavy duty tent stakes that I've been using for quite some time now. They are just like tent stakes but made of 1/4" round bar. They still have the bend at the top so you can anchor whatever you need to, and they also give you a great place to pull them out of the ground with. These things will NOT bend and will go through anything I can think of.

Oh yeah and they were cheap too.

[DFW_Warrior]

Linky is here... (http://www.rei.com/product/693154?vcat=REI_SEARCH)

[TexasShadow]

These things will NOT bend and will go through anything I can think of.

Oh yeah and they were cheap too.Cool. I'll pick up some of those, too. I'll need some for tent and staking out guy lines on my tent.
Will they go through rock? :trust:

[DFW_Warrior]

If they don't go through rock, then I'm not sure what will. They are the beefiest tent stakes I've ever seen.

[TLRam1]

Does anyone know what you now need to cross the border and for re-entry into the USA?

[Richard_]

Here's what MexAdventure insurance sent me recently:

On January 31, 2008 - US Border Officials will ask for Passports or Birth Certificates.


Although passports will not be required until June 2009 (or later) for land travel across the US border, US border officials will begin asking for proof of citizenship on January 31, 2008. Proof of US citizenship can be provided with either a Passport or with a Birth Certificate. Original Birth Certificates are preferred, but a photo copy will also be accepted for the time being. All people 19 years or older who do not have a passport will be required to show a photo ID such as a US Drivers license. Minors 18 or younger will not need a photo ID, but will need a Birth Certificate or Passport.

US citizens who do not have a Passport or Birth Certificate will not be refused from crossing back into the US, but border officials will write up a warning to alert travelers to bring their Birth Certificate or Passport next time they cross the border.

The new Birth Certificate requirement is part of the transition period leading up to June 2009 when passports will start to be required. US Border Officials will be lenient in the first few months. They do not wish to increase border wait times, so they will only be giving verbal and written warnings to travelers for the first few months.

[TLRam1]

Richard, thanks for the updated info!

[Hotair]

Does anybody have any Idea if I can take my Yamahog with a sidecar rig on the Pinto Canyon Road loop? How long of a run would it be for a loop from Teralingua to Teralingua?:rider: :rider: :rider: :rider: :eat: :eat: :eat:

[Hotair]

I just ran the route on computer, it shows aprox 265 miles. Is this too aggressive for a 1 day trip? I like to go slow enough to see things. What do you who have done this trip think???:doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh:

[beemerchef]

Does anybody have any Idea if I can take my Yamahog with a sidecar rig on the Pinto Canyon Road loop? How long of a run would it be for a loop from Teralingua to Teralingua?:rider: :rider: :rider: :rider: :eat: :eat: :eat:

You can easily do it in one day. Downhill from Marfa is the easiest. As soon as you get on the dirt you will have a couple miles of larger rocks, but nothing dramatic and the road is wide...
I did it easily, taken a lot of pictures and stopping in Alpine for the Bakery and Marfa for the Pizza Connection...
Check out my Archives here (http://theoasisofmysoul.com/?p=208)and here (http://theoasisofmysoul.com/?p=209)...
Part II will show you some pictures of the roughest part...
Hope that helps... I would not miss it!!!
be well...

Ara & Spirit

[Hotair]

Thanks, Ara!!!! Pet Spirt for me!

[KenH]

Hey, everybody! Get your Ride the Rio shirts ordered before 7:00AM on Thursday, February 14, so I can order your shirts for printing the following weekend, and I won't be printing any extras. Delivery in Terlingua for no shipping charges.

P. S., Remember Valentives Day so your kitchen passes don't get pulled.

http://www.twtex.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23908

[TexasShadow]

P. S., Remember Valentives Day so your kitchen passes don't get pulled. What's a 'kitchen pass'? Does it involve cobbler and ice cream?

[NUTT]

Not looking so good for me. February has turned out to be an extremely busy month for me and I don't want to stretch myself too thin.

Squeaky... don't count on me being your mode of transportation for this one.

[Squeaky]

Squeaky... don't count on me being your mode of transportation for this one.

Ok, I guess the V-Day cookie bouquet will go to Duke... ;-)

[DFW_Warrior]

Ok, I guess the V-Day cookie bouquet will go to Duke... ;-)

Oh sure... little miss, "I've got a trailer now and can go whenever I want"....:rofl: :rofl:

[Squeaky]

Yeah, I've got a trailer but no driver! :giveup:

[KenH]

What's a 'kitchen pass'? Does it involve cobbler and ice cream?

We singles people don't need to worry about kitchen passes. :lol2:

Cobbler and ice cream? Well, now that you mention it, let's talk about that. Suppose one was to take a little ride in the park and end up at Rio Grande Village about lunch time. I've been told that food services are pretty sorry there. Now, suppose one's friend happened to have the coals on a hot Dutch oven in one of the grills at the Daniel's Ranch Picnic Area, a little Blue Bonnet under dry ice in a cooler, maybe sizzle some sausage on a stick ... . Sound good? Soozy wants to visit Big Bend and will cage a picnic in one day for whomever wants to eat. Any takers?

[flashstromer]

Anyone riding down from Kansas City, Oklahoma, DFW area that wants to hook up Thursday to finish the ride into Terlinqua? I'm taking two days to get there, but I'll iron butt it home in one day.

[Squeaky]

Have we asked Trip if he wants in on this one? There's street rides available for him and the Sprint. I think I'll go bug him... :trust:

[flashstromer]

Have we asked Trip if he wants in on this one? There's street rides available for him and the Sprint. I think I'll go bug him... :trust:

That's a good idea. Does he still ride?:lol2:

[Squeaky]

I saw his bike once. He said he rode it there. I kinda believe him. :lol2:

[chopperbob]

Are you comming through Austin?
Bob

[flashstromer]

Are you comming through Austin?
Bob


Haven't set a route in concrete yet... what ya got in mind?

[flashstromer]

Any route suggestions from the gallery? Where is the "Hill Country"?

[Squeaky]

Any route suggestions from the gallery? Where is the "Hill Country"?

It's the entire area of GREAT riding to the west of Austin. Most of Texas is falt or almost flat, so the section in the middle with hills and valleys gets dubbed "The Hill Country".

I've got Garmin routes from a previus trip, but others will chime in here with road numbers and turn-by-turn info off the top of their heads. PM me your email addr if you want the .gpx stuff.

[TexasShadow]

Any route suggestions from the gallery? Where is the "Hill Country"? You ain't from around these parts, are ya? :cool2:
:mrgreen:
(came from ADV, didn't you?)

Hill Country (http://www.hill-country-visitor.com/) is, well, in the hills. ;-) Begins ~60 miles south of the DFW area, just west of Austin and east of.......... someone else can fill that in. It extends about a few hundred miles north of Big Bend region. For reference, Terlingua is about 510 miles from Fort Worth (by way of I-20 and south on FM roads).

Follow the link above for a resource on Hill Country. Several state parks are in that area, too.

Warning: if you go through Hill Country, do so before dusk and after twilight. The deer there are killers and they outnumber humans. (we need more coyotes)

See ya there.

[TexasShadow]

A question for the illustrious leader, or by delegation, the rest of the group in attendance:
Are y'all up for a group photo some morning or evening down there?

[Butte]

a bit late to be toying with the idea of this trip, but here I am...

[Squeaky]

Toying?
Just see if Bill's got space and GO!

[TexasShadow]

a bit late to be toying with the idea of this trip, but here I am...:clap: :clap:
It's never too late.

[Butte]

who else would be on street bikes?

and wait... don't we ride to get down there?

[DFW_Warrior]

and wait... don't we ride to get down there?
Well... the bikes are riding on a trailer and most everyone in the Dual Sport crowd will be riding in some sort of truck or 4-wheeled vehicle. Tell ya what, we'll load your bike up on the trailer and you get to ride on it while we head down there.;-)

[Squeaky]

Tell ya what, we'll load your bike up on the trailer and you get to ride on it while we head down there.;-)

Now THAT deserves pictures!
Can you load up the smoker again and Rachel can turn the meat when it needs it? :eat:

[Butte]

Well... the bikes are riding on a trailer and most everyone in the Dual Sport crowd will be riding in some sort of truck or 4-wheeled vehicle. Tell ya what, we'll load your bike up on the trailer and you get to ride on it while we head down there.;-)

only if I get a couple of ratchet-thingies, too. or at least some velcro. :rider:

Now THAT deserves pictures!
Can you load up the smoker again and Rachel can turn the meat when it needs it? :eat:

:thpt: I aint yo cookie :lol2:

[DFW_Warrior]

Can you load up the smoker again and Rachel can turn the meat when it needs it? :eat:

Nope, not this time. It just takes too much time to fire up the grill to cook. I want to have every available minute on this trip to be out in Big Bend riding around.

[KenH]

Rachel,

Long, boring highways across west Texas are boring and tiring on a bike. Better to make time in a cage so you will be more able to enjoy the fun stuff. Hook up with Bill for the ride west, he has plenty of tie-down straps.

Soozy will be there with her Burgman. She was asking about riding who she might ride pavement with, so I assumee she would be happy to ride with you. I think Rocket Bunny is also planning to attend. She also rides street. Mild Sows?

10-day forecast is showing mid-80s* for highs and low-50s* for lows Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. :sun:

[Gilk51]

Hook up with Bill for the ride west, he has plenty of tie-down straps.

If he doesn't, I have some that you can borrow.

[KenH]

.. Warning: if you go through Hill Country, do so before dusk and after twilight. The deer there are killers and they outnumber humans. (we need more coyotes) ... .

Back in the olden days when I did real science I was part of an investigation into coyote eating habits. After analyzing the stomach contents of 300+ coyotes from across Tennessee, only three contained remains of deer. Coyotes cannot catch a healthy deer, and even if they could, coyotes are solo hunters and a single coyote doesn't have a chance against a healthy deer, except maybe a day-old fawn. Deer make good use of their sharp hooves--deer have killed coyotes by crushing their skulls with a single kick. Now, if a deer is too sick to run or defend itself, or already dead, well, coyotes are opportunistic feeders that readily scavenge. We found commercial pet foods in probably 20% of the coyotes we studied.

On the other hand, coyotes usually prey on ground-dwelling small mammals (generally rodents and lagomorphs) and ground-nesting birds (quail, pheasants, turkeys, waterfowl, roadrunners). Reptiles and amphibians make up a very small portion of coyote nutrition.

Natural predatory control of the deer populations was mostly by mountain lion, which is pretty much an extinct species in the Hill Country because the big cats have been eradicated as a threat to livestock. Several sub-species of gray wolf would have also hunted deer, but all native to Texas are extinct except a small population of the Mexican Grey Wolf (canis lupus baileyi) that is probably extinct in the wild, with a small captive population used for breeding purposes.

[TexasShadow]

As with most medium-sized predators, coyotes can and sometimes do prey on young, injured or old deer. A study of coyotes in Texas (stomach and feces content) demonstrated their primary food sources: rabbits, 33%; carrion, 25; rodents, 18; domestic livestock (chiefly sheep and goats), 13.5; deer, 3.5; birds, 3; insects, 1; other animal matter (skunks, weasels, shrews, moles, snakes, and lizards), 1; vegetable matter, 2.

Coyotes are opportunists and their habits are more varied than their other canine cousins; they are loners as well as small pack canines (unlike the wolf which has a structured social pack system). They usually hunt alone, but will also hunt in groups, usually to bring down larger prey. Habitat and resources dictate what they eat.

Deer loss to coyotes varies local to local. In the NE (New England), deer can be a large component of their diet in lean times such as winters when other food is scarce.

Regardless, coyotes are the most adaptable of all the wild canine species. Hence they are an important component of deer population control because the other larger mammals -wolf, cougar, jaguar- are now extinct due to human depredation and encroachment of humans into their habitats.

Coyotes adapt more than any other wild canine, perhaps even any other medium to large wild mammal. Ecosystem balance can't be restored unless other large mammals that prey on deer are reintroduced. And protected.

[Quick-Silver]

"Regardless, coyotes are the most adaptable of all the wild canine species."

Yep, here at Canyon Lake they are regular guest for dry cat food server under my barn. I keep the area lighted where I put out dry cat food for the coyotes, fox, coons, skunks, opossums, and 10 cats. Since 1979 there have been either fox or coyotes in a den just behind my barn. I say fox or coyotes because I really don't know which if either use a den, but the den is always used by something so I assumed it to the fox or the coyote. I know the coon and opossum go high and the skunk burrows.

My thoughts on the over population of deer is that there should be no closed season or any limitation on how they can killed.

[Antonio Zerrweck]

wonder if we can join you guys, we´re a couple of brothers from Monclova, Mexico. a 3 hours drive from Del Rio, Tx.
We seen the pictures and looks freat.
Let us know!

[Antonio Zerrweck]

Great a meant

[Richard_]

Antonio,

Absolutely you can attend! Everyone is welcome.

Hope to see both of you there.

[chopperbob]

To the guy comming from D/ Ft W area. Rusty and I will be leaving from Spicewood thurs morn. Will be there Thurs aft sometime. have room for a mc.
Taking a truck and 5X10 trailer with 3 bikes.
Bob

PS. that is assuming that its ok with Rusty.

[dixonduke]

Ok, I guess the V-Day cookie bouquet will go to Duke... ;-)

Well I am glad the cookie never showed up, now I don't feel so guilty.

I have just too many commitments to break away for this trip. Y’all have fun and take lots of pictures!

[Squeaky]

Well I am glad the cookie never showed up, now I don't feel so guilty.

I have just too many commitments to break away for this trip. Y’all have fun and take lots of pictures!

I managed to scrounge a ride with Carl and Gary, but thank you for thinking of me. ;-)
(and Carl said I can even sleep in the truck! :mrgreen: )

[WoodButcher]

To the guy comming from D/ Ft W area. Rusty and I will be leaving from Spicewood thurs morn. Will be there Thurs aft sometime. have room for a mc.
Taking a truck and 5X10 trailer with 3 bikes.
Bob

PS. that is assuming that its ok with Rusty.

I was figuring on us using my truck this time, Bob. I was going to show up at your place with my bikes loaded on my trailer. Then we can load your gear and bike and get rolling. My truck has a bed cover though, so only room for 3 bikes.

[chopperbob]

Thats Ok with me. What time are we leaving?
Bob

[WoodButcher]

Thats Ok with me. What time are we leaving?
Bob

Crack of dawn :eek2: Just kidding. Email me your address and directions. I don't really want to leave my place before 7am, honestly. But will have almost everything loaded the night before so I will be able to head out pretty early.

[Butte]

Rachel,

Long, boring highways across west Texas are boring and tiring on a bike. Better to make time in a cage so you will be more able to enjoy the fun stuff. Hook up with Bill for the ride west, he has plenty of tie-down straps.

Soozy will be there with her Burgman. She was asking about riding who she might ride pavement with, so I assumee she would be happy to ride with you. I think Rocket Bunny is also planning to attend. She also rides street. Mild Sows?

10-day forecast is showing mid-80s* for highs and low-50s* for lows Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. :sun:

sounds awesome :rider:

mild sows it is :lol2:, that is IF I can get those days off work. I'm working on it...

[DFW_Warrior]

sounds awesome :rider:

mild sows it is :lol2:

So that means you're going?

[Butte]

So that means you're going?

sorry, I had to throw that 'if' clause in there (*edit*)

so far I've talked to damon, reeser, and rocky about it...

[KenH]

As with most medium-sized predators, coyotes can and sometimes do prey on young, injured or old deer. A study of coyotes in Texas (stomach and feces content) demonstrated their primary food sources: rabbits, 33%; carrion, 25; rodents, 18; domestic livestock (chiefly sheep and goats), 13.5; deer, 3.5; birds, 3; insects, 1; other animal matter (skunks, weasels, shrews, moles, snakes, and lizards), 1; vegetable matter, 2.

Coyotes are opportunists and their habits are more varied than their other canine cousins; they are loners as well as small pack canines (unlike the wolf which has a structured social pack system). They usually hunt alone, but will also hunt in groups, usually to bring down larger prey. Habitat and resources dictate what they eat.

Deer loss to coyotes varies local to local. In the NE (New England), deer can be a large component of their diet in lean times such as winters when other food is scarce.

Regardless, coyotes are the most adaptable of all the wild canine species. Hence they are an important component of deer population control because the other larger mammals -wolf, cougar, jaguar- are now extinct due to human depredation and encroachment of humans into their habitats.

Coyotes adapt more than any other wild canine, perhaps even any other medium to large wild mammal. Ecosystem balance can't be restored unless other large mammals that prey on deer are reintroduced. And protected.

Our conclusion was that coyotes do not have much of an effect on deer populations because they only kill deer that are close to death, same with bears and bobcats. I can see where coyotes would have a speed advantage over deer in snow deep enough the deer can not run. Also, late winter is a difficult time for deer because food sources are buried under thick snows. Even the healthiest deer struggle to find food, shelter, and drinkable water. A significant predation rate for New England winters is easy to accept.

On the other hand, wolves can not keep up with a healthy dear for more than a few dozen yards, so wolves take turns chasing, alternating a hot pursuit with a relaxing lope to force deer to run hard until exhaustion sets in. The loping wolves cut corners to keep up with the faster-running deer. I've seen wolves hunt and take an elk, from first scent to kill. The teamwork is amazing.

On the other hand, the big cats are better stalkers than wolves and have the quickness and speed to catch a healthy deer if the deer has a short head start. Cats also ambush, patiently waiting along a deer trail until dinner strolls by.

[Antonio Zerrweck]

Antonio,

Absolutely you can attend! Everyone is welcome.

Hope to see both of you there.

alright, then we´ll see you there

[Butte]

well, it looks like I'm in.

:rider:

[Calgary-Yogi]

well, it looks like I'm in.

:rider:

:doh: have Bill and Squeaker taught you nothing

its

I'm IN

[Squeaky]

:doh: have Bill and Squeaker taught you nothing

I taught her how to laugh at Bill when he gets his bike stuck in three feet of water. What more is there to learn? :lol2:

[Gilk51]

Wow, it sounds like everybody and their dog are going to this...

[Squeaky]

Wow, it sounds like everybody and their dog are going to this...

I don't have a dog :shrug:
You wanna come along, Pop? :rider:

[Gilk51]

You wanna come along, Pop? :rider:

Gotta go to BB at some point but probably can't swing it for a year or two.

Besides, somebody has to go for pie... :rider: :eat: :rider:

[ed29]

Wow, it sounds like everybody and their dog are going to this...


Well, the dog is not going.... Buck is staying home to guard the FJR.

[Butte]

:doh: have Bill and Squeaker taught you nothing

its

I'm IN

oh, my bad :roll:
like the incubus song, right?

I taught her how to laugh at Bill when he gets his bike stuck in three feet of water. What more is there to learn? :lol2:

:lol2:
I still think it would've been fun to get a little more sand and water than we did, squeak... :trust:

[KenH]

Weather forecast for Terlingua:

Wed Feb 20 Partly Cloudy 85°/50°
Thu Feb 21 Partly Cloudy 83°/49°
Fri Feb 22 Partly Cloudy 83°/48
Sat Feb 23 Sunny 83°/48°
Sun Feb 24 Sunny 82°/50°
Mon Feb 25 Sunny 88°/50°

:sun:

[Trailace]

I plan on riding down but if there is someone in the Houston area who wants to to go but dose not want to ride let me know. I can fit 2 bikes in my small truck and would be OK doing this to help someone out. I just can't see taking my truck down there with one bike in it.

[cdc1]

I managed to scrounge a ride with Carl and Gary, but thank you for thinking of me. ;-)
(and Carl said I can even sleep in the truck! :mrgreen: )

Yep, in the back of the truck.

[Antonio Zerrweck]

would it be too hard to get a place to camp in Terlingua, I just found out bout this trip!

[WoodButcher]

would it be too hard to get a place to camp in Terlingua, I just found out bout this trip!

I believe Uncle (roger) has some space at his place for dry camping and access to another lot. I think it is listed in one of the early posts in this tread. Also, the Big Bend Motor Inn and RV campground has tent spots. I believe they charge extra for a shower though. This link has some information about places in Study Butte and Terlingua. http://www.visitbigbend.com/maps_study.html

[Antonio Zerrweck]

Thank´s Rusty,
that was my only worry going there, now we are ready to go :rider:

[Butte]

Weather forecast for Terlingua:

Wed Feb 20 Partly Cloudy 85°/50°
Thu Feb 21 Partly Cloudy 83°/49°
Fri Feb 22 Partly Cloudy 83°/48
Sat Feb 23 Sunny 83°/48°
Sun Feb 24 Sunny 82°/50°
Mon Feb 25 Sunny 88°/50°

:sun:

oh, middle-of-nowhere, it's been far too long

:zen:

[flashstromer]

oh, middle-of-nowhere, it's been far too long

:zen:



I am looking forward to this. I went for a short 50ish mile ride to test the gear this morning... in 29 degree weather. 29 degrees and 85-90mph down the highway didn't feel too bad. Long underwear bottoms, heavy weight fleece bottoms, wind/rain proof liner, riding pants, long sleeve tshirt, aerostitch heated vest, heavy weight fleece shirt, wind/water proof liner, FirstGear Rainier jacket, insulated gloves, heated grips, heavy weight balacava.

I'm glad you Texans don't mind a Missourian coming to your non-event.

[Squeaky]

I am looking forward to this. I went for a short 50ish mile ride to test the gear this morning... in 29 degree weather. 29 degrees and 85-90mph down the highway didn't feel too bad. Long underwear bottoms, heavy weight fleece bottoms, wind/rain proof liner, riding pants, long sleeve tshirt, aerostitch heated vest, heavy weight fleece shirt, wind/water proof liner, FirstGear Rainier jacket, insulated gloves, heated grips, heavy weight balacava.

I'm glad you Texans don't mind a Missourian coming to your non-event.

We like Missourians (and now I know what people from MO are called) because we like to go play in your backyard sometimes too! :rider:

[Jerry]

Hola Aventueros!

My motorcycle needs to go to Peguis Canyon. http://ojinaga.com/Peguis/peguis.html

A great ride would be up to Candelaria on the river road, back to Ruidosa and do the dirt part of Palo Pinto Canyon Road. On the return we could cross the border at Ojinaga and make the 25 mile jaunt to Peguis.

Total mileage looks to be about 325

Bring a birth certificate/passport to facilitate the border crossing. Since we will be staying within the 25 mile border zone no additional preparation would be necessary.

Lets organize a posse on Thursday night at the Starlight Theater to Git-er-done!

:rider:

[flashstromer]

Hola Aventueros!

My motorcycle needs to go to Peguis Canyon. http://ojinaga.com/Peguis/peguis.html

A great ride would be up to Candelaria on the river road, back to Ruidosa and do the dirt part of Palo Pinto Canyon Road. On the return we could cross the border at Ojinaga and make the 25 mile jaunt to Peguis.

Total mileage looks to be about 325

Bring a birth certificate/passport to facilitate the border crossing. Since we will be staying within the 25 mile border zone no additional preparation would be necessary.

Lets organize a posse on Thursday night at the Starlight Theater to Git-er-done!

:rider:

IN for this!!

[Squeaky]

IN for this!!

It certainly looks like fun - I'd like to hear more about it Thursday night. :mrgreen:

[Trailace]

Hola Aventueros!

My motorcycle needs to go to Peguis Canyon. http://ojinaga.com/Peguis/peguis.html

A great ride would be up to Candelaria on the river road, back to Ruidosa and do the dirt part of Palo Pinto Canyon Road. On the return we could cross the border at Ojinaga and make the 25 mile jaunt to Peguis.

Total mileage looks to be about 325

Bring a birth certificate/passport to facilitate the border crossing. Since we will be staying within the 25 mile border zone no additional preparation would be necessary.

Lets organize a posse on Thursday night at the Starlight Theater to Git-er-done!

:rider:

Looks like a good ride but the only Gas is in Presidio so I'm out. Not sure I can get 150 miles out of my tank. However if you know of a gas station I don't then maybe I will join in.

[flashstromer]

It certainly looks like fun - I'd like to hear more about it Thursday night. :mrgreen:


Sounds Good!

[Richard_]

Grid Coordinates to Uncle's place:

29°18'49.32"N
103°36'33.39"W

For those who don't have a GPS, you can post the coordinates in Google Earth to locate Uncle's place.

[Richard_]

Looks like a good ride but the only Gas is in Presidio so I'm out. Not sure I can get 150 miles out of my tank. However if you know of a gas station I don't then maybe I will join in.

Mapsource tells me that from Presidio to the end of Pinto Canyon Road and back is 113 miles. If you can get 115 miles from a tank I think you can run Jerry's route if you don't run all the way over to Candelaria.

[GSer]

This will be my first trip on my new XChallenge and until I figure out how far I can go on a tank of gas this is going to be my insurance. The 2-1/2 gallon tank is going to be a huge adjustment from the 8-gallons I'm used to.
http://www.smugmug.com/photos/255269168_ESkfA-M.jpg

Looks like a good ride but the only Gas is in Presidio so I'm out. Not sure I can get 150 miles out of my tank. However if you know of a gas station I don't then maybe I will join in.

[Voni]

Paul and I are blessed to live here in Big Bend Country. We'll try to join your for coffee in the morning sometime but we're not early risers, and we'd love for any riders to stop by our adobe just 25 sMiles north of Study Butte on 118.

Or coming from Alpine we're the first house on the right that's 53 sMiles south.

Anything we can do to help ; ) let us know.

Voni
sMiling

[flashstromer]

Paul and I are blessed to live here in Big Bend Country. We'll try to join your for coffee in the morning sometime but we're not early risers, and we'd love for any riders to stop by our adobe just 25 sMiles north of Study Butte on 118.

Or coming from Alpine we're the first house on the right that's 53 sMiles south.

Anything we can do to help ; ) let us know.

Voni
sMiling





I'd love to meet you Voni. Mel Smith of Adrian MO has spoken highly of you and your riding history. Mel is a 79 year old client of mine that rides a burgman, but has riden different bikes all over the country during his life. At 78 he took me on a 480 mile Saturday ride into Kansas that took 12 hours and we must have visited 20+ other bikers. That guy knows every rider within 100 miles I think. The one I remember was Prothey that has a 300,000 BMW cert.

[TexasShadow]

Mapsource tells me that from Presidio to the end of Pinto Canyon Road and back is 113 miles. If you can get 115 miles from a tank I think you can run Jerry's route if you don't run all the way over to Candelaria. Another consideration is to turn around at the top of the rimrock near Marfa. The road between there and Marfa is ~20 miles, paved and flat on top of the plateau. There's also gas in Marfa (I think). The real meat of the ride is from the rimrock south to 170 and Ruidosa.

I'll be riding it again but probably not the day the rest of you are (is that Friday?).

p.s. Be nice to the horses in the road and respect the signs that state it is a private road. Public access to this road is by the grace of the landowners. It was closed to the public not long ago.

[TexasShadow]

Paul and I are blessed to live here in Big Bend Country. We'll try to join your for coffee in the morning sometime but we're not early risers, and we'd love for any riders to stop by our adobe just 25 sMiles north of Study Butte on 118.
Voni, how far are you from the North County Rd on 118?

At this point, committing to any schedule is impossible. But if you are riding down to Terlingua area, I hope we can meet up with you.

[TexasShadow]

Photo shoots: Terlingua Ghost Town, in front of the Starlight; Thursday late afternoon/early evening.
Kathy's Kosmic Cafe, early Friday morning.

Sorry, no exact times. It IS Terlingua Time, afterall. (I'll be there when I get there)

[Quick-Silver]

All you guys and gals have fun on this trip and by all means be careful.

Oh, if you get time and are so inclined here is a website (http://www.texasdesertlandsales.com/) listing land for sale in that area.:thumb:

[Butte]

Hey, Soozy! Might I interest you in being my street buddy down at Big Bend?

:rider:

[KenH]

Rachel, Soozy and I spoke about with whom she might ride strictly pavement. She said she hoped you would ride with her. She also said something about asking if you want to share her room. It has a private bath so you won't be smelly after the second day. :rofl:

[Voni]

I'd love to meet you Voni. Mel Smith of Adrian MO has spoken highly of you and your riding history. Mel is a 79 year old client of mine that rides a burgman, but has riden different bikes all over the country during his life. At 78 he took me on a 480 mile Saturday ride into Kansas that took 12 hours and we must have visited 20+ other bikers. That guy knows every rider within 100 miles I think. The one I remember was Prothey that has a 300,000 BMW cert.

I know him well! He sends me the most interesting email ; ) What a guy!

Looking forward to meeting you.

Voni
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[Voni]

Voni, how far are you from the North County Rd on 118?

At this point, committing to any schedule is impossible. But if you are riding down to Terlingua area, I hope we can meet up with you.

About 15 sMiles.

Looking forward to meeting you too. Love your blog. You have such a way with words.

And pictures.

See you SOON!

Voni
sMiling

[Voni]

Let's keep this thread for attendance and use the main thread for discussion.

Oops!! Sorry ; )

Voni
sMiling

[Soozy]

Hey, Soozy! Might I interest you in being my street buddy down at Big Bend?

:rider:

I would be honored.

[Butte]

I would be honored.

:rider: woohoo! sounds great. today when I get to work I'll have Bill show me a few good street routes that he's been on, so we'll have something to go on.

as for the room, I appreciate the offer but I've had my heart set on camping for awhile now. I might give you a few bucks to use the shower, though :trust:

[Soozy]

Camping is good. And I snore like no other. I am looking forward to the ride!! I have room in the trunk for a picnic, too.

[flashstromer]

Looks like the weather is trying to keep me out of this one. Tuesday's high is 40, but it gets down to 12 that night with a high of 24 Wednesday (my launch date). So the only way I can do this is launch Tuesday early afternoon and get as far south as I can before that cold front gets here.

If not...maybe next time.

[WoodButcher]

Looks like the weather is trying to keep me out of this one. Tuesday's high is 40, but it gets down to 12 that night with a high of 24 Wednesday (my launch date). So the only way I can do this is launch Tuesday early afternoon and get as far south as I can before that cold front gets here.

If not...maybe next time.

Hope you can get out of there. Weather in BB is looking like low 80's the whole time.

[TexasShadow]

:rider: woohoo! sounds great. today when I get to work I'll have Bill show me a few good street routes that he's been on, so we'll have something to go on.I mentioned a few to Soozy; one, the paved River Road and the other the park roads. Plus a few hiking opportunities, such as Santa Elena Canyon, and other spots to visit (Barton Warnock Center, Fort Leaton, etc). The paved road up to the Basin and through Green Gulch is wonderfully magical, but be aware of the tight hairpin turns near the top. Just take it slow and careful and you'll both be fine. Chisos Lodge in the Basin has some awesome cobbler and ice cream :trust: You can sit outside the lodge, eat cobbler, sip coffee and gaze across the basin and down to the desert below with Case Grande Mnt towering over you. Lots of hiking opportunities there, too.

[Antonio Zerrweck]

Bien venidos, amigos. Your presence will make Roger's Ride the rio an international event in more ways than one. What sizes of t-shirts do you wear?

We are "L". I read that they are $15.00 any chance of paing them over there, instead of Paypal?

[Tourmeister]

Who is trailering either from Houston or Austin (or anywhere near Huntsville) that might have room for another bike...? Also, when would you be leaving?

[ed29]

So you are coming too Scott?!? Cool, see ya there, I am sure you will catch a ride.

[Tourmeister]

Maybe... several things have to fall into place... new rear tire for the KLR, the time off, a ride out there, place to stay, etc,... But I am working it ;-)

[Squeaky]

Maybe... several things have to fall into place... new rear tire for the KLR, the time off, a ride out there, place to stay, etc,... But I am working it ;-)

PM on the way. Work on the tire and time off... ;-)

[Tourmeister]

I think Wasabi has me covered on the tire... Now to work on Dad and Beth... :trust:

[TexasShadow]

Maybe... several things have to fall into place... new rear tire for the KLR, the time off, a ride out there, place to stay, etc,... But I am working it ;-):clap: :clap: :clap:

[Tourmeister]

Got the okay for the time off from work...

[DFW_Warrior]

I've got plenty of trailer room, just no truck room. But then again, I'm in the Dallas area so that's kind of a far ride.

[Tourmeister]

Got the trailer thing taken care of as well... ;-)

[Gilk51]

Got the trailer thing taken care of as well... ;-)

Just Beth and the kiddos left? :ponder:

[flashstromer]

I've got plenty of trailer room, just no truck room. But then again, I'm in the Dallas area so that's kind of a far ride.

:lol2: Really?

[DFW_Warrior]

:lol2: Really?

On a KLR, for my tastes, yep. Heck, on the bike I'm taking to ride the rio, anything paved for longer than 30 miles is too far. However on my Strom, usually I call it quits around the 800 mile mark in a day.

So I guess it's all relative.;-)

[TexasShadow]

So I guess it's all relative.;-) heheh. I was just going to post the same thing: It's all relative.

[Outlaw6Guy]

So,is everyone ready to go? Who's bringing the Knob Creek?

[TexasShadow]

Full moon in two days.
I can hear the coyotes in the desert now........

[Trailace]

Full moon in two days.
I can hear the coyotes in the desert now........
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO:lol2:

[TexasShadow]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO:lol2:

There will be a-howlin' goin' on. A-wooooooooooo.............

:mrgreen:

[KenH]

We are "L". I read that they are $15.00 any chance of paing them over there, instead of Paypal?

That will work, if I can find 3 extras in your size. I'll figure something out..

[Tourmeister]

I'm in...

oh wait...


I'm in!!



Now please excuse me as I have many PM's to send...

[Trailace]

Does anyone know if you can ride from Candelaria to Fort Hancock along the border? I have never gone past Candelaria. Map Source show there is a road and I was just wondering.

[Tourmeister]

Shoot a PM to Teeds or XR650Rocketman

[Squeaky]

I'm in...

oh wait...


I'm in!!
Yogi will be proud when he sees this. :mrgreen:

[Calgary-Yogi]

I'm in...

oh wait...


I'm in!!



Now please excuse me as I have many PM's to send...

Now that is how it is done :clap: :clap:

[TexasShadow]

Anyone have an extra TX offroad decal I can buy off them? There's no way I'm gonna be able to get one before tomorrow...... (workaholic)

[flashstromer]

Anyone have an extra TX offroad decal I can buy off them? There's no way I'm gonna be able to get one before tomorrow...... (workaholic)


What is the TX offroad decal for which you speak?

[ed29]

Anyone have an extra TX offroad decal I can buy off them? There's no way I'm gonna be able to get one before tomorrow...... (workaholic)


I have been to the TPWD office where they feigned no knowledge of such a decal..... frustrating. I pointed to the stack of paperwork on the clerk's desk, the top of which was a clearly visible information packet on the very decal I was asking about.:angryfire

After they tried to send me to DPS they finally let me peek at the distribution list for the decal. I went to two dealerships on the list, and they no longer sell them for variuos reasons. They make no profit on them as they must buy and sell at face value, and they have to pay in advance if they want to have them in inventory. They are not available in Tarrant county, I phoned the rest of the dealerships listed as distributors, none of them sell them anymore.

I am riding without the decal. It is absurd to me that TPWD offices do not sell a decal mandated by TPWD itself. If that means I have to pass on going to BBRSP, then I will miss it this trip. After all Big Bend is a Big place.

[TexasShadow]

I have been to the TPWD office where they feigned no knowledge of such a decal..... frustrating. I pointed to the stack of paperwork on the clerk's desk, the top of which was a clearly visible information packet on the very decal I was asking about.:angryfire

After they tried to send me to DPS they finally let me peek at the distribution list for the decal. I went to two dealerships on the list, and they no longer sell them for variuos reasons. They make no profit on them as they must buy and sell at face value, and they have to pay in advance if they want to have them in inventory. They are not available in Tarrant county, I phoned the rest of the dealerships listed as distributors, none of them sell them anymore.

I am riding without the decal. It is absurd to me that TPWD offices do not sell a decal mandated by TPWD itself. If that means I have to pass on going to BBRSP, then I will miss it this trip. After all Big Bend is a Big place.

I suggest this experience be forwarded to the main departmental office in Austin.

I won't let this stop me from riding in BBRSP on this trip. If they don't supply the decals, then......

[Squeaky]

What is the TX offroad decal for which you speak?

IIRC, It is not required if staying on roads - which (I think) most of us are. It's an offroad use permit sticker that is needed when venturing off the road system and onto trails and such on land operated by the state.

[ed29]

IIRC, It is not required if staying on roads - which (I think) most of us are. It's an offroad use permit sticker that is needed when venturing off the road system and onto trails and such on land operated by the state.

Exactly my concern about a potential trip to Big Bend Ranch State Park.

[WoodButcher]

Exactly my concern about a potential trip to Big Bend Ranch State Park.

Thought we decided in the Big Bend SP thread that there was no off roading in the bbsp

[mochoajr]

My friend and I won't be getting in until Friday around 12:00 pm(?) Are there any street riders and where are the dual sport riders meeting on Saturday?

Thanks! Marco.

[TexasShadow]

Thought we decided in the Big Bend SP thread that there was no off roading in the bbspCheck the recent post by Steve in that thread.

Disclaimer: Sorry for posting off topic if this is not the appropriate thread. There are so many threads on this event they all run together.

[KenH]

My friend and I won't be getting in until Friday around 12:00 pm(?) Are there any street riders and where are the dual sport riders meeting on Saturday?

Thanks! Marco.

A couple of the women are riding street. They will not be going fast. Kosmic Kathy's seems to be a fairly popular place for breakfast, your friend can meet up with a crew there.

Check out the latest weather forecast for Terlingua:

Tonight Feb 19 Mostly Clear 47° 0%
Wed Feb 20 Mostly Sunny 83°/53° 0%
Thu Feb 21 Partly Cloudy 78°/49° 0%
Fri Feb 22 Mostly Sunny 79°/48° 10%
Sat Feb 23 Mostly Sunny 85°/49° 10%
Sun Feb 24 Sunny 86°/51° 10%

OH, WOW!!!! :sun:

[mochoajr]

Thanks Ken & Elzi!

[ramblinrog (aka) Uncle]

rtr is happening. Eldon Rix from oklahoma, Hotair, and Uncle sat under the moon and swaped a few stories and had a few adult beverages tonight.

[Richard_]

rtr is happening. Eldon Rix from oklahoma, Hotair, and Uncle sat under the moon and swaped a few stories and had a few adult beverages tonight.

Hey, no rubbing it in! The rest of us workin' stiffs will be there as soon as we can. And don't drink all the cold adult beverages before we show up.

See you Thursday.

[DFW_Warrior]

I'm up, and about to take the puppies to the Kennel, then it's off to load 4 bikes on the trailer and we'll be on our way!!!!

Does anyone know if the Shrimp Store is open past normal lunch hours?

[TexasShadow]

rtr is happening. Eldon Rix from oklahoma, Hotair, and Uncle sat under the moon and swaped a few stories and had a few adult beverages tonight.I'll be joining ya tonight!!!!!:mrgreen:

[Gilk51]

then it's off to load 4 bikes on the trailer and we'll be on our way!!!!

Who all has tickets for the Warriormobile?

[Voni]

A quick head's up.

Tomorrow morning at 9 AM at Kathy's Kosmic Kowgirl Kafe, the general meeting up place, Alex Whitmore
will be doing a live telecast for a show he's doing over the internet.

Just more fun for us all here!

http://www.alexwhitmore.com/home.html

See you there . . .

Enjoy!

Voni
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[Tourmeister]

Ride reports and pics here:

http://www.twtex.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25293