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TexasShadow
11-25-2007, 05:09 PM
I'm putting this report here to get as much cross-over exposure as possible on this forum: off-road and dualsport riders. The explanation will be obvious later in the report.

After months of planning and anticipation the 'Great Dualsport Canyon Invasion' to Palo Duro was canceled for a number of reasons by all former participants. The real clincher was............snow. Turned out we didn't entirely escape the white dastardly stuff anyway. I guess we were snow-bent on it being rubbed in our face. Somehow. Somewhere.

Several of us were prepared for the PD trip to the hilt, packed and ready to go, full of anticipation, carrying food enough to feed a small army. Three of us stubbornly refused to give up. So we took all our gear, bikes and food to Rocky Ridge Off-road Ranch a few miles east of Decatur, camped out and cooked up enough to feed the small army that never came. It was cold, windy and cold, but we didn't care. At least it was dry.

The Good

On the way there Thrusday morning I finally got a shot of this oddity, also a Texas historic spot in Decatur. The gas station is built of petrified wood, the former motel (called 'roadside camp' on the historic marker) behind it is built of rock. It's photogenic and eccentric but there's no gas sold anymore. The cafe next to it is still open and I'll be planning a day trip back there sometime to sample the fare.

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Two of us pulled in, payed our dues and set up camp early Thursday morning. Unlike the spot we camped at over Labor Day weekend by the main dirt road, we found a spot in the trees on the other side of the pond: away from the main dirt roads, quiet, and serene. A perfect place to camp for four days.

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Sooner than later we were on the bikes: Sherpie and The Big 450. That morning we almost had the entire place to ourselves. Only a few ATVs and fewer bikes were there. We were later joined by another of our former army, Theresa and her Flying Banana, and we rode some more.

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After riding on gravel, dirt, air, dust, trails, leaves, cow flaps, more dirt, dust, and air, we headed back to camp to start cooking our T-day Camp Meal to Feed an Army.

Theresa and Ed prepared the fire and began doing their Dutch oven magic. I was the Barista, christening the new 14-cup percolator. We weren't trailer trash but our Trailer Coffee was darn good!

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We had dueling ovens of cornbread, turkey, potatoes, and green beans.

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Ed thought he heard our turkey fly overhead.

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But we assured him it was still in the oven.

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Theresa received a phone call and informed us snow was falling in Euliss and Arlington. Hah! And we were free from the white stuff!
For a little while......

We sat in the dark and quiet and enjoyed the end of a good day while eating pie and freshly whipped cream. We reminisced on our good fortune of having the place almost all to ourselves, laughed and joked about our several excursions, hill climbs, jumps, successes and failures, enjoying the solitude and clean crisp air.

Theresa had to return home to feed the horses in the morning so we helped her load the Banana and told her we hoped she would join us the next day. There was still another day and more riding to do!

At the end I sat melting into a camp chair with an enameled cup of wine, slowly relaxing and submitting to sleep by the sounds of crickets and the wind. Snuggled into my two sleeping bags with long johns, wool socks and a furry dog (who was equally pooped) laying next to me, I quickly succumbed to unconsciousness that was broken only the the chorus of coyotes running somewhere nearby. I could almost feel my own tail wagging and paws ready to join them, but then realized I had only two tired legs reluctant to move out of their down nest. And consciousness slowly and quietly melted away again to dreams in a tired body.

TexasShadow
11-25-2007, 06:31 PM
The Bad

Ed woke up and got coffee going. It took me awhile to arise from the cozy warmth of my down bundle; and I was stiff. Out of the tent, dressed in warm fuzzies, four layers on top, long johns and ski pants on bottom, mits and hat, full coffee cup in paw, I went for a walk down by the pond.
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Hmm...... there's a trail here. Buck the Dog and I went exploring.

I found a dual-track trail alongside the pond and the wide creek, covered with leaves and quiet.

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Reminded of the single-track trail in Tennessee, I wanted to ride it. But breakfast comes first. The walk had pushed warm blood and fluid into my joints and the achiness out of my back. I was ready.

After breakfast and more coffee, readying the bikes, we hit the trail I found. It was sweet!

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I love trails like these. Alas, it was too short.
At the end, Ed led down another trail with two deep ruts, winding around here and there. I lost my line in the center, front wheel landing in one of the ruts and we fell. It wasn't the first or last time we'd do that, either.

Ed led on some trails in the woods, creek bottom and hills. Again, I lost my line and the front tire slipped into a rut. Losing balance, I let the bike gently fall onto the hillside, the right handguard burying itself in the mud. I picked it up, swept the mud off the grip and went on. Falls happen. It was a fun trail.

We did another Elzi Learns New Skills session, this time it was Wheelie school. (the day before was learning to control the throttle on hill climbs and on cambered circles; Whheeeeee!!!!!!!!) Ed demonstrated on his 450 and it looked easy as pie. But as we both learned it was not as easy on the Sherpa: it's heavier and geared such that the front end doesn't lift easy. After umteen attempts, I was able to lift the front twice. But after awhile I was exhausted. Despite that I was reluctant to give up, I was sweating and fatigued.

We discussed changing the sprockets to change the gearing for better control on the slow technical trails and more ooomph in the lower gears. Since the sprockets and chain need to be changed next month, that will be the best time to do it. In January I plan to redo the rear suspension; it bottomed out several times. We also decided it was time for lunch.

Heading back to camp we both rode some of the sandy tight trails back and I was pretty pleased that my skills were improving in just two days. Jumping off the bike, I attacked the left over turkey and potatoes, chopping and throwing in a skillet, hungry enough to only grunt. "Ugh! Need food. Heat coffee."

Full, I sat for awhile while Ed went off on his own ride to play. I assessed the damage thus far: christening of the new handguards.

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And a self-portrait:

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Soon a white monster truck pulled in with banana bike ridding piggyback! Theresa returns!

While we all got bikes ready again, another joined us: Sharon and her new-to-her WT225 (or a 200-something).

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We rode up to the front to meet her and saw that the place had many more riders than the day before: both four-wheelers and dirt bikes. But there's plenty of room and trails to share!

We rode more trails, again I went off the middle line and into a rut to avoid running into Sharon. But this time my right foot was pinned underneath the rear wheel. While I struggled trying to maneuver the bike up and free my foot, Theresa saved the day and picked the bike up enough for me to get out from underneath. All's well and I was back on and rolling forward.
Those ruts and I seem to disagree.

We rode over to a section with a circle course up a hillside, the middle a jump and down again. I was feeling a bit cocky by then, doing circles and jumps completely on my pegs when the bottom bit me. I rolled the throttle on a bit too early and hard and crashed.

The first three falls were just that: gentle falls. This was not gentle, nor a fall; it was a hard, solid crash. I hit hard, feeling my helmet crash and bounce. Good think my noggin was inside a solid helmet. With the wind knocked out of me and before I knew what really happened, the bike was magically lifted off me and into the air. I struggled up and saw a man holding my bike, smiling and saying, "Time to get back on the horse!". I smiled, laughed and returned without hesitation "Yup! Thanks a lot!"

Back on, shifting down and off I was, up the hill, on the pegs and jumping over the air again. Round and round and round without giving myself a chance to dwell on the crash, until I felt myself fatiguing and legs wobbling like jello, and weight falling on the handlebars.

"Okay, enough for awhile" I thought. I rode up, pulled off to the side and sat catching my breath. Then assessed the damage:
"Bike? Check: okay"
"Head? Check: still there."
"Shoulder? Check: aching."
"Hip? SI joint is out."
"Spirit? Check: Still ready and raring to go."
"Okay, then. Rest and relax."
Grin.

I sat and watched the man who was the Puritan that lifted Sherpie, riding with his little son on a tiny bike. The two of them were just a great pair. I gave the boy a big grin and thumb's up several times as he came around the cambered corner and took a bit of air under his two little wheels. "Nice job!!"

We rode another trail and then another fun trail on the way back to camp. That time I used my left foot to guide me through the ruts and we made it without incident. Then over a stretch of sand and back on a tight section through trees, and over a tall hump where I caught some air under the wheels, wearing a grin.

Time for dinner. I made camp stroganoff to feed an army and Theresa made some awesome sausages and fried apples.

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We had a GREAT time sitting around the campfire laughing, telling stories and three women picking on Ed.
(poor Ed..... ;) )

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While cooking dinner a couple trucks pulled in down the way setting up camp, piled pallets on top of each other, pulled logs up and started a generator. It was a harbinger of what was to follow the next several hours and into the wee morning.

ed29
11-25-2007, 06:36 PM
+1 and then some on all of the above. Thursday was a superb riding day at Rocky Ridge. Tent camping was pretty enjoyable with good down bags and pads that kept the cold hard ground at bay. No crouds, no loud music after dark, no generators humming, very few other campers overnight, and those that were there were dispersed. We could see no camp fires or lights from our site.

Sorry in advance for no pictures, my camera never left the truck. We had cloud cover most of the day with patches of blue sky here and there. The trails were in good shape, and nearly empty. Friday riding was close to the same, with a few more ridwers joining as the morning rolled into afternoon. The flying banan re-joind us along with another rider and bike. Sharon came with her nearly pristine and new to her 1992 XT-225. Back then they were not called XT-225 though, Yamaha named them the Serow.

Calgary-Yogi
11-25-2007, 06:57 PM
Looks like you folks had a great time.

TexasShadow
11-25-2007, 07:01 PM
The Ugly

After Theresa and Sharon got on their way home in the dark, Ed and I sat around the campfire. Two, three, four more trucks drove past our camp and pulled into the one down from us. Then a few more trucks. And several four-wheelers took off, springing out in all directions from their camp. Loud. And louder. The generator buzzed and music blared, shouting and hooting. And loud four-wheelers whizzed by, blipping throttles every few seconds. Gone was our quiet evening.

Retiring into the bags and tent, all **** broke loose. By that time is was after 10 pm and we were both beat. But there was no way we were going to get any sleep with all the ruckus next to us.

Then the music was turned up louder. With low tolerance for blatant disregard of other people's rights, I crawled out of my bag, unzipped the tent and yelled to turn the music down. It got louder. Now I was p-o'ed.
So was Ed.

We both yelled to please turn the music down and two of the party came over with flashlights and said we were not supposed to be there, they had a private party, the owner's are their relatives, yadda yadda. I didn't care; we had paid and set up camp there a day and 1/2 before they drove in. All we asked was to turn the music down and avoid roaring past our tent with the throttles wide open on ATVs that could have woken the dead.

After attempts to reason with them, and shrugging off their accusations, and their half-hearted apololgies and promise to keep things quiet, a fourwheeler fired up, one of the loud ones, and roared past our tent with throttle wide open. It was deliberate. And the music got louder.

Ed rode the Sherpa up to the owner's house to complain and was treated with belligerent accusations and behaviour by the owners. He rode back later with the story and a promise by the owners they would drive down to check on things. They did, stayed for 10 minutes and nothing changed. In fact, it only got worse with whooping and hollering, gunfire in the middle of the night, loud music, lound ATV's whizzing past, you name it.

Sometime in the wee hours of the morning I listened as one of the two generators pooped out, then rain spattered on the tent. That must have been the final straw that drove them inside their tent.

Neither of us got any sleep. We woke to rain gently falling on the tent. Both of us were in a funk and decided to break camp and go. All the spark had gone out of our adventure. I made coffee while we started throwing things in the truck and on the trailer, finally rolling out. We noticed few other campers on the way out.

I intended to stop and offer my own complaint, but instead decided to write a letter to them, cc'ing it to the forum here and elsewhere. And I will also cc it to the cycle park in Red River, which will be noted on the letter to Rocky Ridge. I don't tolerate such displays of contemptuous treatment lightly.

This is not the first time we have had an unpleasant camping trip at Rocky Ridge. But this was the worst, and it is the last time. They've lost at least a few customers, and now the report is out about their discourteous treatment of their clientèle.

We will not return.

TexasShadow
11-25-2007, 07:31 PM
On the way back, only a mile or so on FM 51, Ed noticed.......................................... snow.
No.
NO!!!!

Sure enough. Pulling into Decatur, snow flakes were spitting all around.
Ugh....

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The excitement didn't stop there.

Rounding the corner of my country road, a dark mustang was in the ditch next to my private gravel road. Not again.... No one around, the car well out of the road, there was nothing for me to do.

We unloaded my stuff and went inside for something hot to drink when I heard a horn outside. Nonstop.

I looked out the front windows and saw two vehicles on the street.
Something didn't look right. I asked Ed if he had his cell phone on him (mine is dead) and told him to join me. We hopped in my truck and drove down the drive and road to the main road where two cars were half on the road and had obviously collided.
Oh bother; here we go again.

Asking if everyone was all right, and if someone had called 911, I went to look for a flare in my truck. I had one left and it was old. It wouldn't fire. So Ed and I directed traffic while we waited for the local responding rescue vehicles and personnel to arrive. It was at least half an hour or more before a LEO arrived; a state police car at that.

The son of one of the accident victims arrived, saw that his mother was transported to the hospital for evaluation, and that his father was taken care of, and the girl that swung around the corner too wide was there when the officer arrived; she had a warrant out on her.

I made a mental note to pick up another box of flares, told the fire attendent that this was the second accident on the same corner that day and mentioned he might put in a word to the county to erect 'Dangerous Corner' signs facing both directions.

It's winter; there will be at least one or more accident a month now at my corner.

Guess who gets to pick up all the plastic debris off the main road and my private road.........

Hope y'all had a safe, satisfying and happy holiday.
Remember to ride and drive safely.

Over and out.

Goat Trail Green
11-25-2007, 07:33 PM
The Ugly

After Theresa and Sharon got on their way home in the dark, Ed and I sat around the campfire. Two, three, four more trucks drove past our camp and pulled into the one down from us. Then a few more trucks. And several four-wheelers took off, springing out in all directions from their camp. Loud. And louder. The generator buzzed and music blared, shouting and hooting. And loud four-wheelers whizzed by, blipping throttles every few seconds. Gone was our quiet evening.

Retiring into the bags and tent, all **** broke loose. By that time is was after 10 pm and we were both beat. But there was no way we were going to get any sleep with all the ruckus next to us.

Then the music was turned up louder. With low tolerance for blatant disregard of other people's rights, I crawled out of my bag, unzipped the tent and yelled to turn the music down. It got louder. Now I was p-o'ed.
So was Ed.

We both yelled to please turn the music down and two of the party came over with flashlights and said we were not supposed to be there, they had a private party, the owner's are their relatives, yadda yadda. I didn't care; we had paid and set up camp there a day and 1/2 before they drove in. All we asked was to turn the music down and avoid roaring past our tent with the throttles wide open on ATVs that could have woken the dead.

After attempts to reason with them, and shrugging off their accusations, and their half-hearted apololgies and promise to keep things quiet, a fourwheeler fired up, one of the loud ones, and roared past our tent with throttle wide open. It was deliberate. And the music got louder.

Ed rode the Sherpa up to the owner's house to complain and was treated with belligerent accusations and behaviour by the owners. He rode back later with the story and a promise by the owners they would drive down to check on things. They did, stayed for 10 minutes and nothing changed. In fact, it only got worse with whooping and hollering, gunfire in the middle of the night, loud music, lound ATV's whizzing past, you name it.

Sometime in the wee hours of the morning I listened as one of the two generators pooped out, then rain spattered on the tent. That must have been the final straw that drove them inside their tent.

Neither of us got any sleep. We woke to rain gently falling on the tent. Both of us were in a funk and decided to break camp and go. All the spark had gone out of our adventure. I made coffee while we started throwing things in the truck and on the trailer, finally rolling out. We noticed few other campers on the way out.

I intended to stop and offer my own complaint, but instead decided to write a letter to them, cc'ing it to the forum here and elsewhere. And I will also cc it to the cycle park in Red River, which will be noted on the letter to Rocky Ridge. I don't tolerate such displays of contemptuous treatment lightly.

This is not the first time we have had an unpleasant camping trip at Rocky Ridge. But this was the worst, and it is the last time. They've lost at least a few customers, and now the report is out about their discourteous treatment of their clientèle.

We will not return.

Bummer

Sorry to hear the ending ! I am glad you had some fun prior to that.
We missed you out at Gilmer. I post another thread with some pics.

Mike Green

TexasShadow
11-25-2007, 07:46 PM
Sorry to hear the ending ! I am glad you had some fun prior to that.
We missed you out at Gilmer. I post another thread with some pics.I would like to try a day trip out there to see what it is like.
Looking forward to reading your thread and the photos!

frankklx250s
11-25-2007, 07:53 PM
Hi,
Was it y'all I chatted with on friday around 2pm?
I rode a KLX250s. We talked about where we were from, etc.
Frank

TexasShadow
11-25-2007, 08:00 PM
Hi,
Was it y'all I chatted with on friday around 2pm?
I rode a KLX250s. We talked about where we were from, etc.
FrankHi Frank!!!! Good to see you join us!
Yes, that was us :mrgreen:

Glad to see you here and a very big welcome aboard!
:welcome:

DFW_Warrior
11-25-2007, 08:44 PM
Well, it sounds like most of the trip went well. That's the main thing. Other than that, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Red River is more fun anyway. We don't need no stinkin' Rocky Ridge!!!!

gocatgo
11-25-2007, 08:54 PM
Wow. What a bummer about the owners of Rocky Ridge having no more concern for paying customers than that. I will never go there again. I will drive right past it and go to Red River or elsewhere, or just ride on my own farm. It's hard enough to find offroad places to ride - maybe that's what the owners of Rocky Ridge are banking on. The way I see it they have the same mentality as the rude quad-billies that infest Rocky Ridge. They deserve to have the quad-billies trash out their place. :angryfire

TexasShadow
11-25-2007, 08:55 PM
Well, it sounds like most of the trip went well. That's the main thing. Other than that, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Red River is more fun anyway. We don't need no stinkin' Rocky Ridge!!!! I'd like to visit the place you mentioned earlier.

p.s. I have to build up endurance in my legs. Standing on the pegs for two days makes them vewwy vewwy tired.

DFW_Warrior
11-25-2007, 09:01 PM
I actually just looked it up. Lake Murray State Park looks like it has a fairly large ATV/dirt bike section. I'll plan to head up there in the next couple weeks to scope it out a little bit for you.

gocatgo
11-25-2007, 09:02 PM
Hi,
Was it y'all I chatted with on friday around 2pm?
I rode a KLX250s. We talked about where we were from, etc.
Frank

Welcome to TWT Frank!

TexasShadow
11-25-2007, 09:05 PM
I actually just looked it up. Lake Murray State Park looks like it has a fairly large ATV/dirt bike section. I'll plan to head up there in the next couple weeks to scope it out a little bit for you.If you want company, let me know :trust: Sherpie and her rider are addicted. :mrgreen:

DFW_Warrior
11-25-2007, 09:05 PM
If you want company, let me know :trust: Sherpie and her rider are addicted. :mrgreen:

Will you have time in December?? If so, I've got room on the trailer.

gocatgo
11-25-2007, 09:05 PM
Elzi and Ed, thanks for a great time and some great riding.

And Ed, your secrets about getting dirty with three women are safe with me! :mrgreen:

TexasShadow
11-25-2007, 09:09 PM
It's hard enough to find offroad places to ride -..... Bill and Ed mentioned a place up North-way, about the same distance as Red River. I'd like to go try that out. And try out Gilmore for a day, too.

Funny, I had tons of dreams both nights and one was riding the trails in Tennessee, ending up on that short stretch of trail next to the creek at Rocky Ridge. I think I'm addicted to those single-track trails. I can't wait to hit them again next June in the National Forest.

So glad you joined us, Theresa.

TexasShadow
11-25-2007, 09:11 PM
And Ed, your secrets about getting dirty with three women are safe with me! :mrgreen:
:rofl: :rofl: :lol2:

TexasShadow
11-25-2007, 09:12 PM
Will you have time in December?? If so, I've got room on the trailer.Bro', I'm ready!!!!!! :clap:
(not going to Big Bend 'till weekend before xmas)

gocatgo
11-25-2007, 09:17 PM
Bill and Ed mentioned a place up North-way, about the same distance as Red River. I'd like to go try that out. And try out Gilmore for a day, too.

Funny, I had tons of dreams both nights and one was riding the trails in Tennessee, ending up on that short stretch of trail next to the creek at Rocky Ridge. I think I'm addicted to those single-track trails. I can't wait to hit them again next June in the National Forest.

So glad you joined us, Theresa.

Tennessee next June sounds like the place to be! :rider: :clap:

ed29
11-25-2007, 10:43 PM
And Ed, your secrets about getting dirty with three women are safe with me! :mrgreen:

:giveup: In the famous words of Sgt. Schultz.... "I know nothing.... Nothing!" :shrug:

Tourmeister
11-26-2007, 12:45 AM
Welcome to the site Frank! :wave:

Great report Elzi. Frustrating dealing with such inconsiderate people :doh:

ed29
11-26-2007, 07:58 AM
I suppose I could post up some of the details about the ugliness of Friday night. When we had had enough of the noise and disrespectful antics of the party and entered into discussions with them directly we were mostly dealing with unreasonable twenty something kids who firmly believed that they had the right to be as loud as possible for as long as possible, and if we did not like it... tough stuff. There was one young man who took the lead in duscussions for them that stood out as different. He gave me some hope that the issue could be resolved right there and then. He is the grandson of the owner of Rocky Ridge. He apologized for disturbing us, although he asserted that he and his group had reserved that end of the park and that we 'were not supposed to be there'. Remember that quote for later. With assurances from the only polite person in the bunch we settled back in to try to sleep. About the time the sleeping bag zippers topped out, the music was cranked up a bunch, and the loudest, most obnoxious four wheeler was fired up to run laps around the camp site. This was a deliberate escalation of the ugliness.

I dressed for the cold night and fired up the Sherpa (my 450 has no lights) and rode slow and quiet up to the house at the front gate. I could hear the party from across the lake, over the hum of the motor beneath me. Grandson had called and told them I was coming..... Jimmy, the man who runs the place, listened biefly to my complaint and promptly informed me that we should not be there. The party going on was supposed to be a private thing that was coordinated with the riding park. Never mind that we paid fees for the priviledge of being there.... we were in the wrong in the eyes of the owners. Never mind that the music was loud enough to be heard in every good camping spot in the park. never mind that rules of the park were set aside for noise curfew, riding curfew, and a ban on cutting down fire wood. The fee paying customers that follow the rules of the park were deemed to be at fault for being there. Jimmy got angry with me and accused me of ripping them off for having planned a four day stay, but only paying for the first two at first. I assured him that I always do that on extended stays where there is a weather question and that I always have paid for every day that I or others in my group were there. They have a no refund policy... I learned from a prior extended weekend to pay initially only for the days you are assured are good weather, and pay the last days as they come.

We have choices of where we go to ride, and who we spend our money with. The owners of Rocky Ridge get to choose whether they want paying customers coming in the gate, or a private family party facility. Over the years that I have been taking my sons, my friends, and myself to Rocky Ridge I have spent around two thousand dollars in gate fees, ten bucks at a time. I have many years of riding ahead of me, and my sons have many decades. None of it will be at Rocky Ridge. The only thing that they will be getting from me now is a letter detailing why I will be driving past their place on my way to Red River.

Jimmy must have felt some remorse about chewing me out Friday night. He put two and two together that I was the guy that called earlier in the week verifying their holiday weekend hours of operation. I got a voice mail on my cell phone from him after we left offering us each a free one day pass to come back and ride Rocky Ridge. The point he is missing is that my issue is not the ten dollar gate fee, it is the blatant disregard for their own rules. It is the blame game where our being kept awake by the rule breakers is viewed as our own fault for being there in the first place. Being there or not being there is one thing that I can adjust accordingly.

TexasShadow
11-26-2007, 08:54 AM
Nor do I take kindly to drunk kids firing off guns in the middle of the night in populated areas (there were a few other campers on the place besides us). Despite the large sign at the gate warning that no firearms of any kind are allowed on the premises.

Goat Trail Green
11-26-2007, 09:17 AM
I'd like to visit the place you mentioned earlier.

p.s. I have to build up endurance in my legs. Standing on the pegs for two days makes them vewwy vewwy tired.

If you have stairs at work use them. You can't believe the difference it will make. Being a non smoker. I take my smoke break and walking up and down 6 flights 4 times a day....

Mike Green

ps I heard Lake Murray is great camping but more suited for quad. Pretty sandy I guess. If you make a post I bet a few will respond. I don't know personally but have been told by others..

DFW_Warrior
11-26-2007, 09:33 AM
If anyone has contact info for the owners of Rocky Ridge please either post it up here, or PM it to me. I feel the need to email someone right about now.

TexasShadow
11-26-2007, 09:37 AM
If you have stairs at work use them. You can't believe the difference it will make. Being a non smoker. I take my smoke break and walking up and down 6 flights 4 times a day.... I walked up the 13 flights of stairs here once when I was ticked off at something. ;-)

I posted a thread on a weight lifting forum where I sometimes participate (as a moderator). I know two there ride motocross/dirt, one competes in NY. The advice thus far has been helpful and I'll start training for it. These last few days revealed my weaknesses and with a bad back, I have to be fit and careful. I'm sore today. So it's partial squats for as many reps as I can! :eek2:

I will post a training log on my website. Two rider buddies are getting small DS bikes; I've seduced them to the Dirt Side. They're older and want to get in shape for it.

ps I heard Lake Murray is great camping but more suited for quad. Pretty sandy I guess. If you make a post I bet a few will respond. I don't know personally but have been told by others.. I'd like to go visit it and see. I need to learn to ride sand (better) anyway. Be a sandworm on wheels and rename Sherpie 'Mahdi of the Texas Bene Gesserit'. :lol2:

TexasShadow
11-26-2007, 09:38 AM
If anyone has contact info for the owners of Rocky Ridge please either post it up here, or PM it to me. I feel the need to email someone right about now.I jotted down their address, but left it in Ed's truck. He should have it on his front seat (I need it, too).

ed29
11-26-2007, 09:49 AM
I love internet data searches. I can find no web site for Rocky Ridge itself, nor email information for the owners. The magic of public property tax searches did reveal a full mailing address and legal ownership information:

Wayne Moss
14467 N FM 51
Decatur TX, 76234-7336

The man I spoke with at the gate gave me his name as Jimmy, of course it could be the same guy since a few folks go by a middle name.

Bandit33
11-26-2007, 10:40 AM
Sorry about the bad experience up there. I wound up going up there Friday afternoon, got there about 2 and stayed til dark. I think I saw you guys in the gravel pit at one time, ( I was on the yellow DRZ)......by the time I realized the group might be someone I knew, I could not find you again. Anyway, I was parked up at the upper level in the trees just off the main entrance road. At one point while taking a break, I noticed a truck carrying a bunch of pallets hauling a_ _ down said road,.....must have been doing about 50 mph. There are signs just past the entrance, stating 10 mph limit. I am sure it was some of the same guys you had problems with. I remember thinking at the time that I was glad that no kids on bikes got in their way. I guess some rules just don't apply to some people. I may very well just go on up to Red River myself, from now on, after reading your experience.

Don

ed29
11-26-2007, 11:23 AM
Don, that was us indeed on Friday. We did some of the trails around the gravel pit, and I remember seeing you and your machine. And yes... that truck full of pallets was used by our camp neighbors along with gasoline to build a huge, if short lived bonfire.

Gilk51
11-26-2007, 12:53 PM
Wow, this sounds like a bad ending to what should have been a good trip.
Sorry about that experience - sounds like the word needs to get around.

JimD
11-27-2007, 08:57 AM
Sorry to hear about your camping trip at Rocky Ridge, but it does not suprise me. I live real close to Rocky Ridge, probably within a 15 min drive but I never go there anymore. It is a really cool place to ride but I have 2 young sons and I don't feel it is very safe for them to be there. There seems to be no one watching out for anything. I am all for everyone having fun, but sometimes you have to take into account that some people need to be told what not to do. The sad part is I never see the owners watching over anyones actions out there. My boy's usually ride ATV's but last xmas they got motorcycles also. It seemed everytime we find some small area that the boys could ride, within 5 min it would be filled with people riding stupid, no helmets, and acting half drunk. Not a very good example for my boy's to see. Like I said I am all for everyone having fun but there seems to sometimes be no regard for safety there and that is what is scary for me. A cool place to ride not far from there is Cross Bar Ranch. It is closed for deer season right now but will be open again in a week or so. Great camping, seem to care about the little guys safety and lots of area to ride.

TxSandman
11-27-2007, 10:34 AM
You may want to cc any ride reports here as well, spread the word.
http://www.txmud.com/review/index2.php?item_id=10

TexasShadow
11-27-2007, 02:01 PM
Letter to Mr. Dirt:

Dear Dirt,

I learned a lot from you in two days and was reminded of other things.

1. I'm not as old as I am. I'm still a kid inside. Now if I can just convince my aching body that I'm not as old as it thinks it is, I'll be good.

2. Never get cocky. I did a few times and was lucky most times. Once, while going around a corner at the bottom of a hill, I rolled on the throttle too soon and too much. In sand. POW! I don't remember the act of crashing, only the result. Such as my noggin bouncing off your hardpan inside my helmeted head. Now, I do remember a half-second long flash of thinking, 'Man, am I glad I wear a good helmet!', while it was bouncing.

I am grateful to the man that picked the bike up off me and held it, telling me while smiling "Time to get back on the horse." Yessiree! I did, smiling and thanking him; shifted down and up the hill I went, over the jump, on the pegs, around the next corner and repeated again and again. And again. I don't give up. But I did reign in my cockiness.

3. I learn faster than I thought I would. Ed patiently offered constructive criticism and pointers, for which I am very thankful, but I also picked up techniques just by riding trial and error. Sure, I fell down three times in the ruts (they're a challenge). But I picked the bike up and did it again. It took me three falls to find what worked. Ironically the solution was the opposite of what other dirt riders recommend.

4. Indecisiveness can be dangerous. Not that I sit at a spot and ponder over what is ahead. But sometimes stopping is not a good option. Look ahead, pick your line and stick with it. Be flexible and ready to change it as needed. Besides, the more you sit there, the more intimidating things become. Like a tiger that gets exponentially bigger and louder over time.

5. I found my sweet spot. Well, sweet position: on the pegs. After half a day of riding on you and experimenting with Sherpie, the most comfortable position that offers control is standing on the pegs. That way you can use your center of gravity in conjunction with that of the bike to your best advantage depending on the terrain and conditions. I found myself rarely sitting on the bike the last half of the second day.

6. Use your own body weight to help maneuver the bike under you. Shifting weight side to side, down through the pegs, or even leaning against the tank can add another element of control over the bike.

7. The cycle parks are fun, but for me they are more a school ground. To learn and master techniques and skills for the various conditions you will throw at me out on the trails in the real world: trails and roads in forests, deserts, canyons, creeks, rocks, and mountains.

8. I have so much more to learn. And I am ready!! Take me to your leader.......

9. I'm addicted. Street riding and riding you are different in so many ways. I love both, but you, my friend, are special. You and my dirty bike are becoming my best of friends.

Until we meet again, Mr. Dirt!

TexasShadow
11-27-2007, 02:04 PM
A cool place to ride not far from there is Cross Bar Ranch. It is closed for deer season right now but will be open again in a week or so. Great camping, seem to care about the little guys safety and lots of area to ride. Anyone else know this place? I need to find another school ground ;)

You may want to cc any ride reports here as well, spread the word.
http://www.txmud.com/review/index2.php?item_id=10 Excellent. I will do that later. Thanks!

Iceman Jack
11-27-2007, 03:37 PM
Anyone else know this place? I need to find another school ground ;)

The Cross Bar Ranch is an excellent place to ride. It's owned by the city of Davis,Oklahoma and I don't think you would have to worry about anyone shooting off their guns at the place, since it's owned by the city. Brad is the guy that oversees the place, and he'll let you know real quick about what you can and can't do there. I've been there three times, and it's always been a pleasant experience. Not a lot of four wheelers go there, probably because they can't run wild like some other places. I usually do the 22 mile single track trail. I especially like it because it's for bikes only, and it's directional one way. Don't usually have to worry about running into someone going the wrong direction! Here's a linky to the place (http://www.crossbarranch.com/).
Pretty sure their deer season is over with, but I'd call before you haul.

TexasShadow
11-27-2007, 10:00 PM
I usually do the 22 mile single track trail. I especially like it because it's for bikes only, and it's directional one way. Mmmm.....single-track trail........ Okay, when do we go??? :mrgreen:

DFW_Warrior
11-27-2007, 10:47 PM
Mmmm.....single-track trail........ Okay, when do we go??? :mrgreen:

Come to Red River, they only have a couple hundred miles of single track!!!:trust:

Iceman Jack
11-28-2007, 11:36 AM
Mmmm.....single-track trail........ Okay, when do we go??? :mrgreen:

I'm tied up with the LMS until after the weekend of Dec 8, after that.....................let's boogie!


Come to Red River, they only have a couple hundred miles of single track!!!

You are correct, and yes RRMT is a great place to ride. Well, I guess it is, I've been there every weekend for the last five weekends, and it looks like I'll be there this weekend to?
What the Cross Bar has over RRMT is the marked trail, and very few four wheelers. You have arrows pointing you in the right direction, so if you wanna boogie and not worry about which trail to take, you can just go for it. To me, it seems like when I ride at RRMT, I'm always worrying about getting center punched at some trail junction. After the LMS, let's all do the Cross Bar some weekend..........anyone in?
Oh yeah, I almost forgot..............I've been to RR one time since 1988, won't be doing that again!

TexasShadow
11-28-2007, 11:57 AM
What the Cross Bar has over RRMT is the marked trail, and very few four wheelers. You have arrows pointing you in the right direction, so if you wanna boogie and not worry about which trail to take, you can just go for it. To me, it seems like when I ride at RRMT, I'm always worrying about getting center punched at some trail junction. After the LMS, let's all do the Cross Bar some weekend..........anyone in?ME!! :trust:

'LMS' = Last Man Standing? When is that?

Iceman Jack
11-28-2007, 12:04 PM
ME!! :trust:

'LMS' = Last Man Standing? When is that?

LMS qualifying starts at 9:00 am, on Dec.7th, and it ought to be sumpin to see!

LMS day race starts between 10:00 am and 11:00 am, and the night race starts at sundown on Dec. 8th. If you come, and stay for the night race, better be dressed properly and be sure and bring a flashlight. It gets mighty dark out there when the sun goes down.

ed29
11-28-2007, 12:29 PM
A group trip to Cross Bar sounds great. Juggling weekend activities, only so many left in the year. is December 15 or 16 good for a day trip up there for most of us? After work I will have more time for the computer, so I am thinking of starting up a specific thread for a Cross Bar day trip.

TexasShadow
11-28-2007, 12:57 PM
LMS day race starts between 10:00 am and 11:00 am, and the night race starts at sundown on Dec. 8th. If you come, and stay for the night race, better be dressed properly and be sure and bring a flashlight. Wow, I didn't realize it was right around the corner. I'd like to watch one of those races.....

A group trip to Cross Bar sounds great. Juggling weekend activities, only so many left in the year. is December 15 or 16 good for a day trip up there for most of us? I'm in (I think; gotta get chain and sprockets on the Sherpa though). I bet Theresa and/or Sharon might be interested, too.

Iceman Jack
11-28-2007, 01:09 PM
A group trip to Cross Bar sounds great. Juggling weekend activities, only so many left in the year. is December 15 or 16 good for a day trip up there for most of us? After work I will have more time for the computer, so I am thinking of starting up a specific thread for a Cross Bar day trip.

Both days sound ok to me.........go ahead and start that thread, and maybe we can get er moving.

DFW_Warrior
11-28-2007, 01:14 PM
I'm in......

TexasShadow
11-28-2007, 01:15 PM
I just watched the video on the LMS website. I want to go watch this!!!!
Awesome!

Anyone else?

Iceman Jack
11-28-2007, 01:18 PM
Wow, I didn't realize it was right around the corner. I'd like to watch one of those races.....

Come on out, it ought to be pretty interesting. There will be some of the fastest off road racers in the World there. Personally, I think the Friday qualifier is going to be sumpin to see, especially since they will only take the 100 fastest times to move you on to the real race. Those boys are gonna be digging hard to get to the big race.

mcrider
11-28-2007, 01:27 PM
I will be there as a worker. I will be helping stage the Friday qualifier & other things.

Guess this thread is officially hijacked.

Bandit33
11-28-2007, 01:39 PM
I went up for Last Man Standing last year, really enjoyed watching, even if it was cold. Plan on going again this year.
I would probably up for riding up at Cross Bar as well; never been up there.

Don

TexasShadow
11-28-2007, 01:55 PM
Guess this thread is officially hijacked.:mrgreen:
I'll start a new thread. I DO want to go! ('specially after watching all the vids on the site)

I showed the website to our rotation student from Thailand; he rides a bike. He wants to go, too. He said we're a bunch of crazies ;-)

MLRickards
11-28-2007, 08:11 PM
I would probably up for riding up at Cross Bar as well; never been up there.

Don

Since the hijack has already taken place...

We went to Cross Bar ranch a couple of weekends ago for the first time and it's a lot of fun. But, you better like rocks. Lots of rocks. Big rocks, medium rocks, really no small rocks. There were times it felt like you were riding straight up a 45% angled, dry rocky river bed. Not complaining...it was great fun. But, if you don't like rocks or are uncomfortable riding on them, you'll want to be forewarned about Cross Bar.

Did I mention it's really rocky? :)

TexasShadow
11-28-2007, 09:32 PM
We went to Cross Bar ranch a couple of weekends ago for the first time and it's a lot of fun. But, you better like rocks. Lots of rocks. Big rocks, medium rocks, really no small rocks. There were times it felt like you were riding straight up a 45% angled, dry rocky river bed. Not complaining...it was great fun. But, if you don't like rocks or are uncomfortable riding on them, you'll want to be forewarned about Cross Bar. Well, I need to learn how to do rocks, so it's good. I'll go.

Squeaky
11-28-2007, 09:41 PM
Well, I need to learn how to do rocks, so it's good. I'll go.

If rocks beat sand, I'd be up for it.

Than again, almost anything beats sand... :doh:

TexasShadow
11-28-2007, 09:44 PM
If rocks beat sand, I'd be up for it.

Than again, almost anything beats sand... :doh:
Nah. I gotta learn how to do that, too. :mrgreen:

MLRickards
11-29-2007, 03:18 AM
To be clear, the longer loop isn't entirely rock, there are some really fun sections through woods that you can really get going on. Also some fun creek crossings. Most importantly, there are some incredible views along the way...if only one can slow down enough to enjoy them. We couldn't, at least not our first time through. It was all about how fast we could go. Someday, we'll get over that...:rider:

TexasShadow
11-29-2007, 05:48 AM
Most importantly, there are some incredible views along the way...if only one can slow down enough to enjoy them. We couldn't, at least not our first time through. It was all about how fast we could go. Someday, we'll get over that...:rider: I can go fast, on the street whenever I want. I like to take my time off road. That's one of the reasons I go off-road. And I'm the opposite; I take my time the first time through and go fast the next time. :rider:
Come with us when we go.

DFW_Warrior
11-29-2007, 06:39 AM
If rocks beat sand, I'd be up for it.

Than again, almost anything beats sand... :doh:

If it makes you feel any better, I'd take sand over rocks any day of the week. With sand, you just lean back and pin it.... rocks, not so much....

gocatgo
11-29-2007, 07:53 AM
I'm in for a day at Crossbar! The little Banana likes rocks.

And LMS too, depending on what's going on that weekend - hopefully nothing I can't get out of.

TexasShadow
11-29-2007, 08:50 AM
If it makes you feel any better, I'd take sand over rocks any day of the week. With sand, you just lean back and pin it.... rocks, not so much.... +1
But I know I'll encounter them on the trails elsewhere, so I need to learn to maneuver them. I guess CB is as good a place as any.

DFW_Warrior
11-29-2007, 09:04 AM
Very true.... but it still doesn't make me like them any better....:lol2: Big rocks are just no fun!!! LOL

TexasShadow
11-29-2007, 09:09 AM
Very true.... but it still doesn't make me like them any better....:lol2: Big rocks are just no fun!!! LOLNo, I don't expect I'll like them much either :)

mcrider
11-29-2007, 10:32 AM
Well, I need to learn how to do rocks, so it's good. I'll go.

If you rode up Cedar Springs road before the grading :rider: & left antifreeze at Randy's, you have a good start on riding rocks. :party:

:rofl: :lol2:

TexasShadow
11-29-2007, 03:02 PM
If you rode up Cedar Springs road before the grading :rider: & left antifreeze at Randy's, you have a good start on riding rocks. I rode a mule ;-)
:rofl:

MLRickards
11-29-2007, 11:49 PM
I can go fast, on the street whenever I want. I like to take my time off road. That's one of the reasons I go off-road. And I'm the opposite; I take my time the first time through and go fast the next time. :rider:
Come with us when we go.

Let me know when you're going and I'll sure try to join you!

jbh
11-30-2007, 01:44 AM
I actually just looked it up. Lake Murray State Park looks like it has a fairly large ATV/dirt bike section. I'll plan to head up there in the next couple weeks to scope it out a little bit for you.

I have been there before, trails run around a lake so lots of mud when it rains, also lots of ruts. Some sand, but not many rocks if I remember. Kind of reminds me of a large Marshall Creek.

If you are protesting RR, don't forget Twin Hills Cycle Ranch in Bridgeport, its the same distance as RR from here. They get a lot of trials bikes there. They have some very tight trails but there are plenty of rocks. Last time I was there it is a little overgrown since it does not get much traffic.

I agree RRMT is probably one of the better places around here. But remember most of my riding on these places has been on a 4x4 quad.

Of course the best trails I have been on are around Taylor Park in Colorado, that place is just awesome, but rocky.

DFW_Warrior
11-30-2007, 06:09 AM
I just wanted to say that I'm kind of glad that you guys had a bad experience at Rocky Ridge. Because now, there are tons of people posting on here giving me lots of great ideas about where to go ride next!!! So many places... so few weekends!!!

I just wanted to say thank you for all the ideas everyone!

TexasShadow
11-30-2007, 09:04 AM
I'm with Bill on his comments. This is what we could use here. Which raises the question: is there a place on the forum that lists private and public (state/national) parks to ride with descriptions and reviews? I know there may be other forums elsewhere that do, but it would be nice to have a listing here.

If Scott is interested and agrees, I'd be happy to volunteer coordinating such a listing (soliciting places with criteria, etc) with location, short description, GPS coordinates, hours and contact info, and riders' testimonies/reviews. Heck, we could have scouts check them out (fun!!). :trust:

What do y'all think? (Scott?)

Stromboy
11-30-2007, 01:56 PM
If you rode up Cedar Springs road before the grading :rider: & left antifreeze at Randy's, you have a good start on riding rocks. :party:

:rofl: :lol2:

The rocks are all still there. The blades just kinda move 'em around some to where all the sharp edges are sticking up!

Squeaky
11-30-2007, 02:56 PM
...is there a place on the forum that lists private and public (state/national) parks to ride with descriptions and reviews?

For offroad, there's Where To Ride in Texas (http://www.twtex.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=56) and for Dual Sporting there's Favorite Stomping Grounds (http://www.twtex.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=51).

It's up to us to start threads in there for all the dirt parks and offroad areas. Go for it! :rider:

DFW_Warrior
11-30-2007, 03:14 PM
For offroad, there's Where To Ride in Texas (http://www.twtex.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=56)

I checked that link... there's hardly any info on places in that thread... How can a off-road thread be complete without info on Red River and others???:eek2:

Squeaky
11-30-2007, 03:51 PM
I checked that link... there's hardly any info on places in that thread... How can a off-road thread be complete without info on Red River and others???:eek2:

It's only as complete as the members here make it! Post a thread about Red River, including address, fees, trail maps, etc.

TexasShadow
11-30-2007, 03:59 PM
The rocks are all still there. The blades just kinda move 'em around some to where all the sharp edges are sticking up!How many flats have you had out there?
Want to join up for a 'The Little Bikes That Could' ride?

TexasShadow
11-30-2007, 04:04 PM
It's only as complete as the members here make it! Post a thread about Red River, including address, fees, trail maps, etc.My only issue is one has to hunt for names/places.
One way around that is to do a thread as a sticky leading with a post listing places, linking them to the posts within the sub-forum or elsewhere.

Almost like a menu.

Stromboy
11-30-2007, 04:14 PM
How many flats have you had out there?
Want to join up for a 'The Little Bikes That Could' ride?

Out of 12 trips to the ranch this year I've had two flats on the Excursion.

Don't know about the ride at this time (you know how I am about schedules out there!) but let me know what ya'll have planned. I do plan to come out of the mountains for at least day at some point though.

Squeaky
11-30-2007, 04:17 PM
Well, if the posts themselves listed the title in a standardized format, it would be much easier to navigate.

Example: Red River Motorcycle Trails / RRMT - Meunster, TX

Then the post can have a format similar to the Eateries section, where the original post would include the details and then people can post their dealing in/at the park.

DFW_Warrior
11-30-2007, 04:31 PM
Well, if the posts themselves listed the title in a standardized format, it would be much easier to navigate.

Example: Red River Motorcycle Trails / RRMT - Meunster, TX

Then the post can have a format similar to the Eateries section, where the original post would include the details and then people can post their dealing in/at the park.

Like this??? Linky... (http://www.twtex.com/forums/showthread.php?p=331146#post331146)

TexasShadow
11-30-2007, 05:03 PM
Don't know about the ride at this time (you know how I am about schedules out there!) but let me know what ya'll have planned. I do plan to come out of the mountains for at least day at some point though.I empathize re: anti-scheduling. In fact, I reminisced about that last night while trying to go to sleep. I long for the day when I can chuck all that.

I'll let you know, but plans will be 'loose'. :)

TexasShadow
11-30-2007, 05:05 PM
Well, if the posts themselves listed the title in a standardized format, it would be much easier to navigate. But it's still like trying to navigate a big book by just chapter pages. Where an index is more efficient. That 'index' could be a post that is a 'sticky' at the beginning of the sub-form.

Squeaky
11-30-2007, 05:49 PM
How about this - I'll see if we can "clean up" that section so that the posts are all specific to a riding area. We can try to move all the other "where should i ride" posts over to the general offroading, and then the forum itself will act as an index of threads about each of the parks.

MLRickards
11-30-2007, 10:07 PM
If you are protesting RR, don't forget Twin Hills Cycle Ranch in Bridgeport, its the same distance as RR from here. They get a lot of trials bikes there. They have some very tight trails but there are plenty of rocks. Last time I was there it is a little overgrown since it does not get much traffic.


+1 on Twin Hills. We're headed there this Sunday morning. Fun place to hit 3-4 times a year. They've got some great runs along the power line easements.

jbh
11-30-2007, 10:55 PM
I'm with Bill on his comments. This is what we could use here. Which raises the question: is there a place on the forum that lists private and public (state/national) parks to ride with descriptions and reviews? I know there may be other forums elsewhere that do, but it would be nice to have a listing here.

If Scott is interested and agrees, I'd be happy to volunteer coordinating such a listing (soliciting places with criteria, etc) with location, short description, GPS coordinates, hours and contact info, and riders' testimonies/reviews. Heck, we could have scouts check them out (fun!!). :trust:

What do y'all think? (Scott?)

This place lists all the legal places around here I know about. It is nicely organized with a clickable map. I know it is geared to ATV's but the places also apply to motorcycles.

http://www.txmud.com/texasmap.php

TexasShadow
12-01-2007, 07:18 AM
How about this - I'll see if we can "clean up" that section so that the posts are all specific to a riding area. We can try to move all the other "where should i ride" posts over to the general offroading, and then the forum itself will act as an index of threads about each of the parks.That sounds great. Thanks, Squeak.

This place lists all the legal places around here I know about. It is nicely organized with a clickable map. I know it is geared to ATV's Right, we can use that as a base or reference and add testimonies or reviews here by riders. More bike oriented and valuable to us as riders.

Given the disease of wanderlust that infects many of us here, include off-road places outside of Texas?
Take a look at motocampers.com (http://www.motocampers.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=4) for reference or ideas on template. We don't need to list state-by-state, but a section for outside Texas would be informative and helpful.