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FatalException0E
12-07-2007, 02:43 PM
I'm thinking about an aftermarket exhaust for my '05 1200S. I'm not looking for loud. Loud pipes...[edited - Mod.] neighbors. I'd also like to keep it simple; just a slip-on, prefer not to have to re-jet, etc. I just think my Bandit sounds too much like a hot-rodded toaster.

treybrad
12-07-2007, 02:58 PM
www.holeshot.com

You won't find a higher quality product from a nicer guy.

trey

RedPill
12-07-2007, 03:30 PM
I just think my Bandit sounds too much like a hot-rodded toaster.

That sounds kind of cool, actually. :mrgreen:

kurt
12-07-2007, 03:51 PM
www.holeshot.com

You won't find a higher quality product from a nicer guy.

trey

Word.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/kurt1305/Bikes/Recent.jpg

PhilS
12-14-2007, 09:33 PM
www.holeshot.com

You won't find a higher quality product from a nicer guy.

trey


Word.....again!!

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z62/stearnsp/HoleshotInstall039.jpg

GregH
12-14-2007, 09:59 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/kurt1305/Bikes/Recent.jpg

Kurt,
Do you miss it? :flip:

kurt
12-14-2007, 10:13 PM
Kurt,
Do you miss it? :flip:

Greatly. :mrgreen:

suzukijo
12-19-2007, 11:52 AM
i've finally stumbled onto all the different threads here, and hope this isnt to repetitive, i was pretty proud when i first got this going.

i put a '06 GSXR muffler on mine. i had to cut off the throttle, and weld a pipe to allow it to slip on, put a rubber cushion on the stand to keep it from hitting (stand stop left with stock pipe), but so far i like it.

comparison to original muffler, exhaust throttle shown seperately

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3599/img2522om6.jpg

and all bolted up with centerstand in place.

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/5971/img3125em5.jpg

close up of finished header to muffler junction, at this time centerstand was off.

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/2733/img2713jq7.jpg

and youtube sound demonstration
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWvcbVBTC1Q

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/1655/img2645vk6.jpg

looks like suzuki wanted to bring back the same look in '08, but had to add this dumb looking tip to it, on the 600.

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/6002/img3335ox2.jpg

A1A
12-20-2007, 11:17 AM
Just wondering if anyone has the Scorpion Slip-On installed on the 07/08 Bandit 1250S? If anyone has I would appreciate any feedback pro's and con"s with the Scorpion End Can.
The stainless steel construction and never having to repack the baffles really appeal to me. Also Scorpion says you do not have to make any air/fuel mods which also appeals to me.
I'm not looking for any added power, more than enough for me already. But would maybe like to hear the exhaust note a little more.

Thanks in advance!

:pirate: :flip:

MetrickMetal
12-20-2007, 11:27 AM
Just wondering if anyone has the Scorpion Slip-On installed on the 07/08 Bandit 1250S? If anyone has I would appreciate any feedback pro's and con"s with the Scorpion End Can.
The stainless steel construction and never having to repack the baffles really appeal to me. Also Scorpion says you do not have to make any air/fuel mods which also appeals to me.
I'm not looking for any added power, more than enough for me already. But would maybe like to hear the exhaust note a little more.


Thanks in advance!


:pirate: :flip:

Hi Rich,

Thats sounds like a muffler I would be interested in also, as I have been down the muffler, fuel manager, air box mod path many times before, and you usually only gain a few HP at the expense of lower gas mileage, which I don't want to give up, and like you, I would jusy like to find a smaller better looking muffler with a little better sound, that would not mess with my fuel mileage or performnace, without having to add a fuel manager.

If I can't find one that will do this for me, I will be sticking with the stock muffler. Do you have any pics of this muffler, as I went to their website, and they do not show a muffler for the new Bandit.

A1A
12-20-2007, 11:47 AM
Hi Rich,

Thats sounds like a muffler I would be interested in also, as I have been down the muffler, fuel manager, air box mod path many times before, and you usually only gain a few HP at the expense of lower gas mileage, which I don't want to give up, and like you, I would jusy like to find a smaller better looking muffler with a little better sound, that would not mess with my fuel mileage or performnace, without having to add a fuel manager.

If I can't find one that will do this for me, I will be sticking with the stock muffler. Do you have any pics of this muffler?

Hi Scott,
Here is the web site for Scorpion in the UK.
http://www.scorpion-exhausts.com/Bikes/index.php
I believe PipeCity.com in the states have the Scorpion mufflers at pretty good prices.
I had a Scorpion on my 05 DL650 Vstrom and liked it a lot. The sound on the DL650 was a higher note. When compared to say a HoleShot which I had on my 04 SV650. In addition on both these bikes all I did was block off the PAIR system.
I'd really like to hear a Bandit 1250S sound clip with the Scorpion installed though.

:rider:

MetrickMetal
12-20-2007, 12:53 PM
Hi Scott,
Here is the web site for Scorpion in the UK.
http://www.scorpion-exhausts.com/Bikes/index.php
I believe PipeCity.com in the states have the Scorpion mufflers at pretty good prices.
I had a Scorpion on my 05 DL650 Vstrom and liked it a lot. The sound on the DL650 was a higher note. When compared to say a HoleShot which I had on my 04 SV650. In addition on both these bikes all I did was block off the PAIR system.
I'd really like to hear a Bandit 1250S sound clip with the Scorpion installed though.

:rider:

Rich,

Yes, blocking off the PAIR valves usually will help elliminate any decel popping after installing a after market muffler if your not also installing a fuel manager. I have made my own PAIR valve block off plates before, and I like to make them so I can retain the stock reed valves, to act as the gaskets for the block off plates.

How was the performance of the mufflers compared to stock, and did you have any decel popping?

RECIT
12-20-2007, 02:13 PM
You might also want to check out cyclegear.com or call one locally. I know they carry Scorpion pipes and they will meet or beat anyones price on just about anything. Just 2 cents. My Dad had a Stay-tune on a bimmer he had and it looked very high quality and the sound was not loud at all.

A1A
12-20-2007, 04:43 PM
Rich,

Yes, blocking off the PAIR valves usually will help elliminate any decel popping after installing a after market muffler if your not also installing a fuel manager. I have made my own PAIR valve block off plates before, and I like to make them so I can retain the stock reed valves, to act as the gaskets for the block off plates.

How was the performance of the mufflers compared to stock, and did you have any decel popping?

I think the performance level remained about the same with both the DL650 and the SV650. But the new pipes made both bikes sounded like motorcycles instead of sewing machines. I had very minor decel-popping with either bike. But I plugged the PAIR system on both bikes anyway and had zero popping.
Both bikes ran really well and had crisp throttle response.

MetrickMetal
12-23-2007, 09:07 PM
I just came across this ad from Star Cycle, whom I've bought pipes from before, looks like a pretty good deal to me, and I like what they say about this Scorpion S/S slip-on for the Bandit. Just might have to get one.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/07-08-Suzuki-Bandit-1250-Scorpion-SS-slip-on-exhaust_W0QQitemZ180198414812QQihZ008QQcategoryZ35 596QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://image2.frappr.com/pix2/i/20071223/d/0/c/d0c6fbb63b9a35b5e7746807edfa561f0_large.jpg

PhilS
12-23-2007, 09:20 PM
Does it say anything about how the center stand works on the slip on? My Holeshot does not bump on the slip-on like stock as it has the bumper mounted on the centerstand itself which bumps under the rear shock. It's a nice system except the center stand taps my left foot on the heel when the shock compresses and makes the stand foot-peg move upward where before it moved up and down with the rest of the exhaust. No big deal as it's a very clean install.

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z62/stearnsp/HoleshotInstall010.jpg

Squidward
12-23-2007, 09:24 PM
I had a Scorpion slip-on on my 2002 GSXR-1000 before the full Arata system and it sounded beautiful without being obnoxious. A nice deep tone with just a bit more volume than the stocker so I could actually hear it while riding. I'm a fan of the Scorpion slip-ons.

A1A
12-23-2007, 10:57 PM
I had the Scorpion Stainless Oval End-Can on the DL650. If I get another Scorpion in the future. I'd probably get the Stainless Round End-Can for the Bandit 1250S.
I'd also like to know how they address the centerstand bracket issue. My last Scorpion also used stainlees clamps to hold exhaust system together, instead of the springs. Just me but I do prefer the stainless clamps.

Scott, $280.00 including delivery seems like a very good price. I guess you would have to pay California Sales Tax though, right?

:rider:

MetrickMetal
12-23-2007, 11:15 PM
I had the Scorpion Stainless Oval End-Can on the DL650. If I get another Scorpion in the future. I'd probably get the Stainless Round End-Can for the Bandit 1250S.
I'd also like to know how they address the centerstand bracket issue. My last Scorpion also used stainlees clamps to hold exhaust system together, instead of the springs. Just me but I do prefer the stainless clamps.

Scott, $280.00 including delivery seems like a very good price. I guess you would have to pay California Sales Tax though, right?

:rider:

Yes, I would have to pay an additional $21.44.

MetrickMetal
12-28-2007, 08:30 PM
Well, I just won the bidding on the Scorpion slip-on muffler that was on eBay.

I was the only person to bid on it, and the opening bid was $229.95, plus 7 1/4% sales tax and $20 for shipping, so the total for the muffler comes to $266.62. :rider:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/07-08-Suzuki-Bandit-1250-Scorpion-SS-slip-on-exhaust_W0QQitemZ180198414812QQihZ008QQcategoryZ35 596QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://image2.frappr.com/pix2/i/20071223/d/0/c/d0c6fbb63b9a35b5e7746807edfa561f0_large.jpg

A1A
12-28-2007, 09:51 PM
Congrats Scott,

Does the mid pipe come with welded brackit bumper for centerstand? Also wondering if the can comes with the DB killer included?
I think you got one heck of a deal my friend.
Looking forward to your install and sound report.

:rider:

MetrickMetal
12-28-2007, 10:00 PM
Congrats Scott,

Does the mid pipe come with welded brackit bumper for centerstand? Also wondering if the can comes with the DB killer included?
I think you got one heck of a deal my friend.
Looking forward to your install and sound report.

:rider:

I don't know what it comes with for the centerstand, but I know I won't have any problems designing up a stop if I have to.

The place I bought it from, Star Cycle is only about 50 miles from my house, so I should see it by Wednesday of next week. :rider:

A1A
12-28-2007, 10:16 PM
I don't know what it comes with for the centerstand, but I know I won't have any problems designing up a stop if I have to.

The place I bought it from, Star Cycle is only about 50 miles from my house, so I should see it by Wednesday of next week. :rider:

Yes, I know you have made a lot of knock out looking goodies for your Bandito.:clap:
I think I'm just as excited about the Scorpion as you.:flip:

:rider:

MetrickMetal
01-03-2008, 08:13 PM
I recieved my new Scorpion muffler this afternoon, and I just finished installing it about an hour ago, and I couldn't be happier with it.

Its got a much nicer sound then the stock muffler, but by no means is it anywhere close to being excessively loud, as I took it up and down the street a couple of times, and I am quite pleased with the sound improvement, but it diffinately won't be a ticket getter.

The installation went very smoothly, and I am quite pleased with the quality of the system. All it came with was an exploded view and a parts list, and no installation instruction, but its pretty straight forward if you have ever installed any after market exhausts before.

It didn't say anything about using any high temp silcone sealant on the slip joints, but I already had a tube of Permetex Ultra Gold silicone sealant, the same stuff that Dale Walker recommends using with his exhausts, so I applied it to both ends of the mid pipe during the installation.

The muffler and mid pipe weigh next to nothing, and a added bonus is the midpipe came with a center stand bumper bracket welded to it, along with a new rubber bumper.

Heres one picture of it on the bike, but I'll take a few more in the sunlight and post them up in a few days.

This muffler has accomplished just what I was looking for, which was a smaller better looking, lighter muffler with a slightly louder exhaust note then the stock muffler had, and it made my custom billet hanger bracket look even better. :rider:

http://image1.frappr.com/pix1/i/20080103/a/f/1/af1ef45bc3c8a0f8ee622ea1c01562950_large.jpg

A1A
01-03-2008, 08:27 PM
Scott,

Now that really looks great and really does go with your manufactured muffler bracket.:clap: Glad to here that the centerstand bracket came welded on the mid-pipe. Have you noticed any popping on de-cell yet?
Thats a lot of muffler for the price. Congrats again on the deal.

Now thats a spoiled Bandito, looking good and parked on beige carpet.

MetrickMetal
01-03-2008, 08:49 PM
Scott,

Now that really looks great and really does go with your manufactured muffler bracket.:clap: Glad to here that the centerstand bracket came welded on the mid-pipe. Have you noticed any popping on de-cell yet?
Thats a lot of muffler for the price. Congrats again on the deal.

Now thats a spoiled Bandito, looking good and parked on beige carpet.

From the couple of trips up and down the block I did, there was no decel popping at all, but I'll take it out for a good ride and report back on it.

Oh by the way, thats just my concrete floor in the picture. ;-)

A1A
01-03-2008, 09:47 PM
[QUOTE=El Bandito;344729]From the couple of trips up and down the block I did, there was no decel popping at all, but I'll take it out for a good ride and report back on it.

Oh by the way, thats just my concrete floor in the picture. ;-)[/Q


Oops! It sure looked like carpet to my tired old eyes.:mrgreen:

Once you really warm it up and put it threw its paces. You will probably hear a little de-cell popping.

:rider:

MetrickMetal
01-03-2008, 09:50 PM
[QUOTE=El Bandito;344729]From the couple of trips up and down the block I did, there was no decel popping at all, but I'll take it out for a good ride and report back on it.

Oh by the way, thats just my concrete floor in the picture. ;-)[/Q


Oops! It sure looked like carpet to my tired old eyes.:mrgreen:

Once you really warm it up and put it threw its paces. You will probably hear a little de-cell popping.

:rider:

If I do, I will make some block off plates for the PAIR valves, and see what effect they have on it, as if its not to bad, a lot of times, blocking off the PAIR valves will elliminate the decel popping.

PhilS
01-03-2008, 09:56 PM
A small rubber block in the PAIR line accessed just below the right side of the tank underneath where you'll find a PAIR line joint cures all decell issues.......

Shots from Dale's site......

http://www.holeshot.com/imgsrv/w_640/bandit_1250/tfi_install01.jpg

http://www.holeshot.com/imgsrv/w_640/bandit_1250/tfi_install02.jpg

MetrickMetal
01-03-2008, 10:00 PM
A small rubber block in the PAIR line accessed just below the right side of the tank underneath where you'll find a PAIR line joint cures all decell issues.......

Shots from Dale's site......

http://www.holeshot.com/imgsrv/w_640/bandit_1250/tfi_install01.jpg

http://www.holeshot.com/imgsrv/w_640/bandit_1250/tfi_install02.jpg

Thanks Phil,

I have also used rubber plugs for blocking off the PAIR valves, and I probably have the right sized tapered rubber plugs already.

I just went out in the garage, and in about 2 mniutes, I was able to get access to the PAIR valve air supply line connector, without having to remove the gas tank, and I installed one of my tapered rubber plugs in the air box side of the hose, and I slipped the hose back onto the connector, so Its plugged off.

I may still at some point down the road, make and install the block off plates, so I can remove all the hoses and valves, so it will be easier performing the valve adjustment.

MetrickMetal
01-03-2008, 10:56 PM
Theres a big storm coming tomorrow, and its supposed to rain Friday thru Sunday, so after blocking off the PAIR valves, I decided I couldn't resist seeing how the new pipe works, and I wanted to try it out in case it does rain, so I bundled up and took it out for a short a 15 minute ride to get it fully warmed up.

I am very pleased to say that there is absolutly no decel popping, and it seems to take the throttle just as smoothly as it did with the stock pipe, and its idlyling just fine also, so the bottom line is the new muffler has not negatively effected the operation of the engine in the least bit, and the exhaust has a very pleasing growl to it now. :rider:

suzukijo
01-04-2008, 12:27 AM
http://image1.frappr.com/pix1/i/20080103/a/f/1/af1ef45bc3c8a0f8ee622ea1c01562950_large.jpg

i noticed you have the spec II black injector covers. :eat:

Roy
01-04-2008, 08:18 AM
I recieved my new Scorpion muffler this afternoon, and I just finished installing it about an hour ago, and I couldn't be happier with it.

Its got a much nicer sound then the stock muffler, but by no means is it anywhere close to being excessively loud, as I took it up and down the street a couple of times, and I am quite pleased with the sound improvement, but it diffinately won't be a ticket getter.

The installation went very smoothly, and I am quite pleased with the quality of the system. All it came with was an exploded view and a parts list, and no installation instruction, but its pretty straight forward if you have ever installed any after market exhausts before.

It didn't say anything about using any high temp silcone sealant on the slip joints, but I already had a tube of Permetex Ultra Gold silicone sealant, the same stuff that Dale Walker recommends using with his exhausts, so I applied it to both ends of the mid pipe during the installation.

The muffler and mid pipe weigh next to nothing, and a added bonus is the midpipe came with a center stand bumper bracket welded to it, along with a new rubber bumper.

Heres one picture of it on the bike, but I'll take a few more in the sunlight and post them up in a few days.

This muffler has accomplished just what I was looking for, which was a smaller better looking, lighter muffler with a slightly louder exhaust note then the stock muffler had, and it made my custom billet hanger bracket look even better. :rider:

http://image1.frappr.com/pix1/i/20080103/a/f/1/af1ef45bc3c8a0f8ee622ea1c01562950_large.jpg

Looks nice I just wish it would work with my Givi V35 side bags. All of the aftermarket pipes except Dale Walkers pipe have too much up-sweep which will contact the bottom of the side bags.

A1A
01-04-2008, 09:04 AM
Theres a big storm coming tomorrow, and its supposed to rain Friday thru Sunday, so after blocking off the PAIR valves, I decided I couldn't resist seeing how the new pipe works, and I wanted to try it out in case it does rain, so I bundled up and took it out for a short a 15 minute ride to get it fully warmed up.

I am very pleased to say that there is absolutly no decel popping, and it seems to take the throttle just as smoothly as it did with the stock pipe, and its idlyling just fine also, so the bottom line is the new muffler has not negatively effected the operation of the engine in the least bit, and the exhaust has a very pleasing growl to it now. :rider:

Outstanding report Scott and really glad your a Happy Camper.:clap:

:rider:

A1A
01-04-2008, 09:08 AM
Looks nice I just wish it would work with my Givi V35 side bags. All of the aftermarket pipes except Dale Walkers pipe have too much up-sweep which will contact the bottom of the side bags.

Roy,

The Scorpion end can looks to be the same height as the stock muffler. Now that's with my calibrated eyeballs measurement of course.:lol2:

:rider:

MetrickMetal
01-04-2008, 09:23 AM
i noticed you have the spec II black injector covers. :eat:

Yes I do, and they by themselves are good for an aditional 2 to 3 hp. :roll:

MetrickMetal
01-04-2008, 09:50 AM
Looks nice I just wish it would work with my Givi V35 side bags. All of the aftermarket pipes except Dale Walkers pipe have too much up-sweep which will contact the bottom of the side bags.

After I decided that I am not going to run hard bags, but instead setup my Bandit to carry my T-Bag Lonestar travel bag on the passgenger seat for trips this summer, like I have been doing on my VTX, along with a medium size duffle bag I will carry on my custom rear rack I am going to build, any pipe clearance issues became non issues for me. ;-)

I am going to take a few measurements today and see how much farther up if any, this new muffler may sit, and get back to you guys on it. :rider:

Roy
01-04-2008, 01:25 PM
I am going to take a few measurements today and see how much farther up if any, this new muffler may sit, and get back to you guys on it. :rider:


I can tell you up front I have measured with the bags on and OEM muffler in place, I have 1 5/8" clear at the very end of muffler under bag and that's it.

Thanks for taking the time to show the difference.

MetrickMetal
01-04-2008, 02:05 PM
I can tell you up front I have measured with the bags on and OEM muffler in place, I have 1 5/8" clear at the very end of muffler under bag and that's it.

Thanks for taking the time to show the difference.


Roy,

I didn't think to get a measurement of how high the stock muffler was, as I am not concerned with running hard bags, but I just went out and measured the distance from the top of my new muffler directly above to the center of the rear side cover mounting, and its right around 8 1/8".

So maybe somebody who has a stock muffler, can measure form the top of the stock muffler to the center of the rear side cover screw, and post that measurement up, to see how they compare.

A1A
01-14-2008, 11:22 PM
Scott,

I was wondering if you were still a Happy Camper with your new exhaust? Did the free flowing muffler effect your gas mileage at all?

:rider:

bones
01-15-2008, 10:20 AM
Sent a message to the seller of that Scorpion. Hoping I can get one at that price.

A1A
01-15-2008, 10:39 AM
Sent a message to the seller of that Scorpion. Hoping I can get one at that price.

bones,
Here are a few more places to purchase Scorpion Exhaust.

http://www.pipecity.com Pretty good prices!

Also like RECIT mentioned in an earlier post CycleGear caries the Scorpion Line.

:rider:

MetrickMetal
01-15-2008, 11:02 AM
Scott,

I was wondering if you were still a Happy Camper with your new exhaust? Did the free flowing muffler effect your gas mileage at all?

:rider:

I rode it to school this week, and ran it it pretty much the way I have been, which is between 80 and 85 mph, and I am almost 42 mpg, which is what I was getting before riding it to and from school using the same route.

I thought that maybe it had lot just a tiny bit off the bottom end, but after putting about 500 miles on the pipe, its running great through out the entire rpm range to the point where I don't think I am going to purchase the DB killer baffle for it, which is $58 shipped directly from Scorpion in England.

I am going to pull the plugs out this weekend though and see what they look like, but all in all I am very happy with the muffler, and its not to loud, but has a much nicer sound to it than the stock can, and I am getting absolutely no decel popping at all.

I have been checking back on eBay, but Star Cycle has not listed up another Scorpion muffler like the one I bought, so maybe its because thats the only one they had, and are waiting to get another one shipped over from England, or maybe since I was the only one who bid on it, they feel that there wasn't much interest in it, and aren't going to offer it again.

A1A
01-15-2008, 11:22 AM
Scott,

I know you bought from Starcycle Ebay sale and the oval muffler was the one on offer. But I was wondering if there was any difference in the Oval and the Round Scorpion muffler? Besides the shape of the muffler of course. Thinking mostly sound quality here and length of end-can.
I'll probably have to give Pipe City a call for this question all so.

Congrats my friend and the mpg and torques is also good news.

:rider:

A1A
01-16-2008, 11:23 PM
I emailed Scorpion direct in England and talked with Brian about the stainless mufflers for the Bandit. He said the Round and Oval end-cans are the same length. The only difference is the shape of the muffler itself.

So I guess that answers my questions.

:rider:

A1A
01-20-2008, 11:26 AM
I recieved my new Scorpion muffler this afternoon, and I just finished installing it about an hour ago, and I couldn't be happier with it.

Its got a much nicer sound then the stock muffler, but by no means is it anywhere close to being excessively loud, as I took it up and down the street a couple of times, and I am quite pleased with the sound improvement, but it diffinately won't be a ticket getter.

The installation went very smoothly, and I am quite pleased with the quality of the system. All it came with was an exploded view and a parts list, and no installation instruction, but its pretty straight forward if you have ever installed any after market exhausts before.

It didn't say anything about using any high temp silcone sealant on the slip joints, but I already had a tube of Permetex Ultra Gold silicone sealant, the same stuff that Dale Walker recommends using with his exhausts, so I applied it to both ends of the mid pipe during the installation.

The muffler and mid pipe weigh next to nothing, and a added bonus is the midpipe came with a center stand bumper bracket welded to it, along with a new rubber bumper.

Heres one picture of it on the bike, but I'll take a few more in the sunlight and post them up in a few days.

This muffler has accomplished just what I was looking for, which was a smaller better looking, lighter muffler with a slightly louder exhaust note then the stock muffler had, and it made my custom billet hanger bracket look even better. :rider:

http://image1.frappr.com/pix1/i/20080103/a/f/1/af1ef45bc3c8a0f8ee622ea1c01562950_large.jpg

Looking forward to seeing a few more pictures of El Bandito with the Scorpion pipe installed.:thumb:
I know I'm asking a lot my friend. But sure would like to hear the sound of the Scorpion on your bike, as well.:drums: :jammin:

Thanks in advance!

:rider:

poudre
04-12-2008, 03:37 PM
I recieved my new Scorpion muffler this afternoon, and I just finished installing it about an hour ago, and I couldn't be happier with it.

Its got a much nicer sound then the stock muffler, but by no means is it anywhere close to being excessively loud, as I took it up and down the street a couple of times, and I am quite pleased with the sound improvement, but it diffinately won't be a ticket getter.

The installation went very smoothly, and I am quite pleased with the quality of the system. All it came with was an exploded view and a parts list, and no installation instruction, but its pretty straight forward if you have ever installed any after market exhausts before.

It didn't say anything about using any high temp silcone sealant on the slip joints, but I already had a tube of Permetex Ultra Gold silicone sealant, the same stuff that Dale Walker recommends using with his exhausts, so I applied it to both ends of the mid pipe during the installation.

The muffler and mid pipe weigh next to nothing, and a added bonus is the midpipe came with a center stand bumper bracket welded to it, along with a new rubber bumper.

Heres one picture of it on the bike, but I'll take a few more in the sunlight and post them up in a few days.

This muffler has accomplished just what I was looking for, which was a smaller better looking, lighter muffler with a slightly louder exhaust note then the stock muffler had, and it made my custom billet hanger bracket look even better. :rider:

http://image1.frappr.com/pix1/i/20080103/a/f/1/af1ef45bc3c8a0f8ee622ea1c01562950_large.jpg


What was the part number on your Scorpion?

sailor
04-16-2008, 03:08 PM
I installed a new Scorpion pipe on my 1250 and am very happy with the fit/finish and sound

MetrickMetal
04-16-2008, 05:56 PM
What was the part number on your Scorpion?


The paper work I recieved with the system from Scorpion says its part number SI-96.

poudre
04-16-2008, 07:30 PM
Thank you!:mrgreen:

bones
06-03-2008, 09:52 AM
Thanks Phil,

I have also used rubber plugs for blocking off the PAIR valves, and I probably have the right sized tapered rubber plugs already.

I just went out in the garage, and in about 2 mniutes, I was able to get access to the PAIR valve air supply line connector, without having to remove the gas tank, and I installed one of my tapered rubber plugs in the air box side of the hose, and I slipped the hose back onto the connector, so Its plugged off.

I may still at some point down the road, make and install the block off plates, so I can remove all the hoses and valves, so it will be easier performing the valve adjustment.
Okay, got a deal on a Yosh pipe and have it at home waiting to go on. Reading the PAIR valve deal and me getting confused easily :lol2: do you unhook it, plug it, then hook it back up? I need to find plugs. Rain all week so I doubt I get much ride time in till the weekend.

sproggy
06-03-2008, 10:34 AM
do you unhook it, plug it, then hook it back up?

Yes, you do. Pull the hose off the back of the plastic connector over the top right hand end of the cam cover, fit the plug taper-end-first into the hose and then refit the hose onto the connector, ensuring that the wire clip is seated in the right place.

This is the quickest, easiest and most effective mod I've made to the bike so far - it transforms the way the it behaves on the over-run. It really is like riding a different bike.

bones
06-03-2008, 10:35 AM
Thanks, I need to find a suitable plug now.

sproggy
06-03-2008, 11:44 AM
I used a Holeshot one that I got second hand off someone in the UK but had that not come up on eBay I was planning to make one out of a piece of wooden dowel. Anything round and more or less the same diameter as the inside of the hose would do.

Roy
06-03-2008, 11:50 AM
Thanks, I need to find a suitable plug now.

Two large plastic electrical twisty things work fine with the stock clamps. Wedge them in small side 1st then slide the OEM clamps over. That is what I have in mine.:mrgreen: No popping on decel and it was free and in my tool box.

bones
06-03-2008, 11:52 AM
Two large plastic electrical twisty things work fine with the stock clamps. Wedge them in small side 1st then slide the OEM clamps over. That is what I have in mine.:mrgreen: No popping on decel and it was free and in my tool box.
I got those. Thanks a bunch.

Rcdd
06-03-2008, 12:07 PM
Two large plastic electrical twisty things work fine with the stock clamps. Wedge them in small side 1st then slide the OEM clamps over. That is what I have in mine.:mrgreen: No popping on decel and it was free and in my tool box.

*L*......You talking about wire-nuts?.....which color are they?.....

Any advantages to doing this on a stock 1250?

Roy
06-03-2008, 01:53 PM
*L*......You talking about wire-nuts?.....which color are they?.....

Any advantages to doing this on a stock 1250?


Yea wires nuts if thats what they are called.:lol2: No advantage to doig it with a stock muffler since it muffles the decel pops anyway.

I used yellow wire nuts BTW :mrgreen:

bones
06-03-2008, 02:04 PM
Roy, you just plug the ends of both hoses then I assume.

Roy
06-03-2008, 02:25 PM
Roy, you just plug the ends of both hoses then I assume.


Correct. I could get to the hose without much fuss no tank removal needed did it from the side. Split the two hoses from the joiner piece, stuffed a wire nut into each hose, slid the OEM clamps over into place, and pushed both hoses back up under the frame out of sight. One ride around the block with the new Leo Vince pipe had mine popping loudly. Thats when I went back to the garage and sourced the wire nuts from the tool box. I was willing to cram anything in the hoses since they really do not do anything. Wire nuts just happen to fit the hose fine. That was 6k miles ago and still working fine.:rider:

bones
06-04-2008, 10:16 AM
That was simple. 30 minutes, PAIR corked and pipe installed and a short test ride. Looks WAY better, sound is not as loud as my VFR which is good. Overall worth $200.

sproggy
06-04-2008, 11:14 AM
Roy, you just plug the ends of both hoses then I assume.

Correct. I could get to the hose without much fuss no tank removal needed did it from the side. Split the two hoses from the joiner piece, stuffed a wire nut into each hose, slid the OEM clamps over into place, and pushed both hoses back up under the frame out of sight.

Why bother plugging both hoses when they're joined together? Sounds as if you left them disconnected from the joiner piece which'll leave them loose under the tank. All you need to do is plug one (the one leading to the airbox is best) and re-fit it to the joiner piece - no flapping pipes and stock appearance. Job done.

bones
06-04-2008, 11:29 AM
I am going to come up with something solid to attach both tubes to and it will appear stock.

Roy
06-04-2008, 12:17 PM
Why bother plugging both hoses when they're joined together? Sounds as if you left them disconnected from the joiner piece which'll leave them loose under the tank. All you need to do is plug one (the one leading to the airbox is best) and re-fit it to the joiner piece - no flapping pipes and stock appearance. Job done.

Yes I could have left the rear one to air box un-plugged but small bugs and critters will get in the hose if left open. For now I prefer it plugged. And no its not a prefect fix, removing the entire PAIR contraption is the ideal way but I ride more than fiddle with my bike this time of year. Nope they are not loose under the tank its tight under there and things are well kept in the space. You can't even see it from the side. Until I get an adequate PAIR cap plate this is the way mine wil stay.

Roy
06-04-2008, 12:19 PM
(the one leading to the airbox is best) .

WRONG this one does nothing. The one coming rom the valve cover is the source of the popping not the one coming from the airbox. Air comes from the airbox via the pipe to valve cover reed valves.

whitesands
06-05-2008, 02:02 AM
Looks like there should be some block off plates soon...

sproggy
06-05-2008, 04:35 AM
Yes I could have left the rear one to air box un-plugged but small bugs and critters will get in the hose if left open.

I didn't suggest leaving it open - I suggested re-connecting it to the plastic joiner.

WRONG this one does nothing. The one coming rom the valve cover is the source of the popping not the one coming from the airbox. Air comes from the airbox via the pipe to valve cover reed valves.

You took my comment out of context. I was advocating leaving both pipes (the one to the airbox and the one to the valve cover) connected to the plastic joiner as they come from the factory. If you do this they're effectively one pipe so putting the bung in the airbox hose DOES have the desired effect. I'm talking about a bung that goes inside the pipe (not a mushroom type that sticks out of the end which maybe you've used - I don't know what a 'wire nut' is) as Holeshot supply which allows you to reconnect the hose to the joiner.

Check out the instructions in stage one here: http://www.holeshot.com/Bandit_1250/1250tfi_installation.html if I haven't explained it well.

Putting a bung (as described above) in the valve cover half of the pipe could conceivably allow it to be drawn towards the reed valve, making its later removal difficult. Putting it in the airbox end, if it's drawn towards the reed valve it can't go anywhere because the plastic joiner prevents this.

Marc B
06-06-2008, 07:02 PM
I'm thinking about an aftermarket exhaust for my '05 1200S. I'm not looking for loud. Loud pipes...[edited - Mod.] neighbors. I'd also like to keep it simple; just a slip-on, prefer not to have to re-jet, etc. I just think my Bandit sounds too much like a hot-rodded toaster.

I ordered one mon. from imotorcyclestore.com for 291.95 free ship but i will not order from them again as my tracking was deleted on wens. and they couldnt tell me if it shipped or not, They didnt have a problem charging my card and after many calls to them they finally gave me a return call today fri. that it had been shipped and is due to arive mon. we will wait and see, If i had it to do over which may still happen i would go with Pipecity.com 299.00 + shipping. Some of these internet folks are so Mickey mouse/fly by night, you really have to be careful.

A1A
06-07-2008, 10:23 PM
I ordered one mon. from imotorcyclestore.com for 291.95 free ship but i will not order from them again as my tracking was deleted on wens. and they couldnt tell me if it shipped or not, They didnt have a problem charging my card and after many calls to them they finally gave me a return call today fri. that it had been shipped and is due to arive mon. we will wait and see, If i had it to do over which may still happen i would go with Pipecity.com 299.00 + shipping. Some of these internet folks are so Mickey mouse/fly by night, you really have to be careful.

For the record orders over $100.00 from pipecity.com are shipped free. There is no handling or surcharges either. So the price to your door would have been $299.00.

I hope everything works out for you from imotorcyclestore.com.

Cheers!

Marc B
06-07-2008, 11:23 PM
Thanks for the heads up on P.C. shipping, I was so frustrated at imotorcycle when all my shipping info was gone, When i called ,they didnt even have record of my order and said it must have been B.O. and that my card would not have been charged, I called and found that they had charged it, I called them back and he said they were 'dead in the water" you get the idea, what a headache, I hope to have the Scorpion tomorrow, will post with outcome..SZ.:sun:

bones
06-10-2008, 01:44 PM
I like my new/barely used Yosh slip on. Sound is real quiet until you get it way up in the 7-9K rpm range I think.

Don't mind the filthy bike, I am still trying to get used to having a street bike and on top of all the rain we have been having and my general laziness and drinking home brew instead, my bike has suffered. Maybe tis weekend it'll get cleaned up as the chain is in dire need of some TLC.

http://30bones.smugmug.com/photos/310369203_BA6ES-L.jpg

http://30bones.smugmug.com/photos/310369360_vEnWy-L.jpg

http://30bones.smugmug.com/photos/310369466_kxS3d-L.jpg

MtnTrax
06-10-2008, 02:35 PM
Same pipe I put on mine- stainless Yoshi TRS. If you take out the little baffle tube the sound opens up below 7k too and sings a sweet tone. Not too obnoxiously loud but it now sounds like a proper bike should sound.

bones
06-10-2008, 04:49 PM
I may try that sometime. I mainly wanted better looks and got it for $200, so it was worth it to me.

bones
06-11-2008, 09:11 AM
Same pipe I put on mine- stainless Yoshi TRS. If you take out the little baffle tube the sound opens up below 7k too and sings a sweet tone. Not too obnoxiously loud but it now sounds like a proper bike should sound.
Did this last night and the ride in this morning was noticeably louder, but yes not too loud. I may leave it out for commuting and put it back for longer trips as it'd bug me. My VFR was WAY louder and long trips it really annoyed me.

MetrickMetal
06-18-2008, 05:15 PM
I just put my Scorpion oval S/S exhaust up for sale in case anyones interested .

http://www.twtex.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29087

whitesands
06-19-2008, 10:07 PM
Are you going to put on anything else ?

MetrickMetal
06-20-2008, 07:15 PM
Stay tuned. :rider:

http://www.supertrapp.com/images/product_sections/detail/un-scstandard-4in-1.jpg

bones
06-20-2008, 10:38 PM
I hated that pip on my KLR. Well any pipe on the KLR sounded horrible and made it run like poo and jetting barely helped.

Curious what you end up with and why you chose such an ugly pipe??

MetrickMetal
06-20-2008, 11:11 PM
I hated that pip on my KLR. Well any pipe on the KLR sounded horrible and made it run like poo and jetting barely helped.

Curious what you end up with and why you chose such an ugly pipe??

Obviously you must not know how to tune a Super Trapp muffler. :trust:

bones
06-20-2008, 11:14 PM
Obviously you must not know how to tune a Super Trapp muffler. :trust:
Maybe so, but it was a KLR so I really didn't care. ;-) Tuning may be fine and dandy, but it's still a butt ugly pipe.

MetrickMetal
06-21-2008, 12:02 AM
Are you going to put on anything else ?

Yup, I'm putting on a black 18", 4" disc Super Trapp muffler with a custom machined polished billet end cap, polished S/S muffler hanger and a custom bent polished S/S mid-pipe with polished S/S T-bolt muffler clamps.

The muffler and one of the T-bolt clamps I needed cost me $152 shipped from Summit Racing and I already had the the other T-bolt clamp for the muffler connection to the mid-pipe.

I purchased a small piece of 2" diameter 304 S/S tubing at a local metal supply for $3.25 and a local muffler shop is going to bent the mid-pipe and swedge open one end to fit over the end of the header for $15 and then all I have to do to finish the mid-pipe is cut 4 slits in the end that fits over the header so the clamp can squeeze down on it. I have a total of $170.25 in the whole system.

I got the dimensions of the mid-pipe off of the Scorpion muffler I just sold which will work perfectly with the new Super Trapp muffler and I did a drawing of it to take over to the muffler shop to use a guide to bend up the new mid-pipe plus I know the angle of the bend, which I will check with a large protractor I have.

As far as the billet end cap, I already have a piece of aluminum that I will use for it and I have machined up custom billet end caps for the Super Trapp muffler I have used on my other bike so I already have several differant style drawn up. :rider:

rl76484
06-21-2008, 07:18 PM
I'm waiting on this.

http://www.yoshimura-rd.com/images/OnlineStore/Bikes/Road/Header/08_GSF1250s_bandit_R77_SO_SS_Ti_header.jpg

Here's the rest of it.

http://www.yoshimura-rd.com/t-NP_08_GSF1250S.aspx

MetrickMetal
06-21-2008, 09:40 PM
:rider: I'm waiting on this.

http://www.yoshimura-rd.com/images/OnlineStore/Bikes/Road/Header/08_GSF1250s_bandit_R77_SO_SS_Ti_header.jpg

Here's the rest of it.

http://www.yoshimura-rd.com/t-NP_08_GSF1250S.aspx

Ok, it not my style and it looks ok and a lot like a stock Gixxer muffler but its still just like all the other slip-on mufflers out there that are just a straight thru muffler with some baffle material inside but with a differant exterior shape and you still can't adjust the back pressure like you can with a Super Trapp.

Please tell me what is differant about this muffler compared to any other slip-on muffler Yosh makes or for that matter anyone else makes outside of the fact that some are carbon fiber, some are S/S and some are titanium and some may have a removable baffle.

Most if not all after market slip-on mufflers give a little more top end pull at the expense of off the line, low and mid range performance due to their straight thru designs as they don't create enough back pressure, and I don't run my bike wide open all the time, and I like the ability to simply add or remove disc's on the Super Trapp to increase or degrease the exhausts back pressure to suit my engines mods as well as the noise level. :rider:

The Scorpion slip-on I had on my bike worked good but in all honesty the bike felt as though it was not as strong off the line compared to the stock muffler and I have found this to be true with most of the other straight thru mufflers I have bought over the years.

For normal daily riding, Its getting really hard to improve on the stock exhausts that come on most Japenese bikes these days and I read article after article in the magazines on tests of after market exhausts that cost $700 plus and a good majority of them only increase the HP by maybe 2 or 3 at the expense of a loss of torque, and a lot of the times they make less power and torque than the stock exhaust.

Unless your racing you bike on the track from what I see from the articles I read in the magazines, about the only real benifit most people will see with an after market exhaust is a lower weight and better sound than the stock exhaust.

Heres a picture of the same Super Trapp muffler I ordered for my Bandit except that its polished S/S that I adapted to the stock 2 into 1 headers on my 03 VTX 1800C that I had, and it worked and sounded great. :rider:

http://image1.frappr.com/pix1/i/20080621/1/0/7/1079f58ac2773d1d412bf67faab2bcc30_large.jpg

red757
06-22-2008, 02:21 AM
I keep wanting to buy a new slip on but for some reason keep putting it off. I would really like to see some dyno test results and hear sound clips before I decide on one. The stocker seems to have a different slightly deeper tone after about 30 minutes of riding. I definitely don't want to sacrifice any low-mid torque for 2-4 more HP. I generally don't go over 85 when the limit is 75 but i do love snapping out of the twisties at lower speeds. Ive grown quite fond of the mortar cannon and really don't know if I would be happy with a little pipe and zippy sound now. ****, everyone that asks about the bike seems to ask the same 2 questions. Is it fast and did that pipe come stock.
decisions, decisions. Maybe I should let the magic 8 ball guide me. http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~ssanty/cgi-bin/eightball.cgi

LOL. It was right about the should i go to the casino question once and horribly wrong the other time and says i should definitely get a new pipe.I'm going against it on this one for now:lol2:

MetrickMetal
06-22-2008, 09:49 AM
I keep wanting to buy a new slip on but for some reason keep putting it off. I would really like to see some dyno test results and hear sound clips before I decide on one. The stocker seems to have a different slightly deeper tone after about 30 minutes of riding. I definitely don't want to sacrifice any low-mid torque for 2-4 more HP. I generally don't go over 85 when the limit is 75 but i do love snapping out of the twisties at lower speeds. Ive grown quite fond of the mortar cannon and really don't know if I would be happy with a little pipe and zippy sound now. ****, everyone that asks about the bike seems to ask the same 2 questions. Is it fast and did that pipe come stock.
decisions, decisions. Maybe I should let the magic 8 ball guide me. http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~ssanty/cgi-bin/eightball.cgi

LOL. It was right about the should i go to the casino question once and horribly wrong the other time and says i should definitely get a new pipe.I'm going against it on this one for now:lol2:

I guess you really need to ask yourself why do you want to but a new muffler as if you read all of the reasons stated on this forum or most any other, the main reasons people change the muffler is to make the exhaust louder or they don't like the look of the stock exhaust or both, and unless you want to go the entire slip-on muffler, air box mod and air filter and adding a fuel manager you are not going to see all that much improvement by just changing the muffler.

Installing just a new aftermarket muffler will decrease your gas mileage over stock and modifying the air box and adding a fuel manager will decrease it even more, as anytime you increase your engines ability to intake air while also adding more fuel your gas mileage is going to decrease.

So with the price of gas theses days, its getting harder and harder for me to justify decreasing my gas mileage for the sake of a few more HP as I ride my bike a lot fror daily transportation and traveling.

Thats why I am hoping that I can tune the Super Trapp muffler to get about the same gas mileage as the stock muffler while not being as big looking at the stock muffler.

Riding my Bandit on a recent 935 mile trip I was able to get almost 51 mpg average with on 178 mile leg I averaged a little over 57 mpg by keeping my speed under 75 mph, try that with a slip-on muffler, modified air box and fuel manager and I bet you would be lucky to hit 40 mpg if that. :rider:

Marc B
06-22-2008, 11:20 AM
To me the slip on is a toy to play with, I also love the look of the cannon but wanted a little sound and went with the scorpion, still a pretty nice looking can but does not cover as much of the spindley looking rear wheel as stock does, I only hear the scorpion on exceleration thru the gears, once up to speed its just wind noise, What i like about the sound of the 1250 is you can tell its a big bore inline four and not a screaming 600rr whatever minibike, If you get tired of the look or the sound , you can revert back to the stock can in 10 min. once it cools off.

sproggy
06-22-2008, 05:34 PM
Installing just a new aftermarket muffler will decrease your gas mileage over stock and modifying the air box and adding a fuel manager will decrease it even more, as anytime you increase your engines ability to intake air while also adding more fuel your gas mileage is going to decrease.

On the contrary. Removing restrictions in the inlet and/or exhaust will allow the engine to breathe more freely, using less power to drag air in through a restrictive air filter and inlet (required by law to reduce inlet noise) and push exhaust out through an over-baffled exhaust (required to reduce exhaust noise). If that additional power isn't used by the rider to accelerate faster then the fuel consumption will decrease, not increase as you suggest. Certainly at a constant speed/throttle opening the fuel consumption will improve as a result of these modifications.

I have fitted a Power Commander, K&N filter, aftermarket exhaust (system or just can) and sometimes different inlet to many bikes and I have never seen an increase in fuel comsumption as a result.

Think of the standard intake/filter and exhaust as riding with the brakes slightly on (because it requires power to overcome these restrictions) and obviously removing the restrictions (or letting the brakes off) will cause the bike to use less fuel.

Of course this argument is invalid if the additional power made available is used solely to go faster all the time but none of us ride flat out for much of the time on the road so reducing restrictions in inlet and exhaust will improve fuel comsumption overall.

MetrickMetal
06-24-2008, 07:04 PM
Well I one step closer in finishing up my custom $170 Super Trapp exhaust system, as I will be riding my bike without the muffler on it about 1 1/2 miles over to a custom muffler shop where they are going to bend the piece of 304 S/S tubing I bought and swage open one end of it to make my mid pipe. The muffler is 17" OAL not including the disc's.

The all I have to do is cut 4 equally spaced slits in the swedged end of the mid pipe thats going to slid over the end of the header so that the t-bolt clamp in the picture will clamp down on it.

After the mid pipe is bent, I'll polish it up to a high shine. I still have to make a custom billet aluminum end cap for the muffler to replace the cheap looking stamped S/S ones that Super Trapp gives you. :rider:

http://image1.frappr.com/pix1/i/20080624/b/7/0/b7021f281ffb94e4d023b2d04119411d0_large.jpg

sailor
06-24-2008, 07:59 PM
Very nice, interested in the final install and pic's

KenB
06-24-2008, 08:22 PM
try that with a slip-on muffler, modified air box and
fuel manager and I bet you would be lucky to hit 40 mpg if that. :rider:
I've averaged 47MPG on 1400 miles since doing Dale's Stage 1 kit, and I don't exactly baby this bike. I'm very pleased with the sound, increased performance, and fuel efficiency of the Holeshot kit.

Even if I only got 35 MPG, I'd still be happy. If I wanted 2-wheeled fuel efficiency, I'd buy a Vespa. But MPG, although a nice perk on the Bandit, is not why I bought a Bandit. The Bandit is a torque monster that gets the adrenalin flowing. I suspect that's the reason most of us buy this machine as well. :rider:

red757
06-24-2008, 11:16 PM
I believe i saw some pics of someone's bandit that looked like it had no exhaust pipe, maybe just a GP type extender. Maybe it was Rworms. Anyhoo, I was thinking of playing around with running no exhaust pipe for a bit just to see what it sounds like. Of course i'll leave the headers and cat on.

Anyone know of any negative consequences this might create. I'm not talking about HP loss/gain but like bending valves or ruining the engine type things. I've heard a lot of different opinions and so far it seems 50/50 on what people say it will or wont do to the engine.

I hacked my pipes off my old 82 650gt and it didnt ruin anything but i bought that for 200, it wasnt in the greatest shape anyway and didnt really care about breaking it.

OK i just watched a vid on youtube and the bandit was shootin like 2 foot flames with no pipe.LOL. I can see it now, melted shoe and jeans on fire.

MetrickMetal
06-26-2008, 11:59 AM
I believe i saw some pics of someone's bandit that looked like it had no exhaust pipe, maybe just a GP type extender. Maybe it was Rworms. Anyhoo, I was thinking of playing around with running no exhaust pipe for a bit just to see what it sounds like. Of course i'll leave the headers and cat on.

Anyone know of any negative consequences this might create. I'm not talking about HP loss/gain but like bending valves or ruining the engine type things. I've heard a lot of different opinions and so far it seems 50/50 on what people say it will or wont do to the engine.

I hacked my pipes off my old 82 650gt and it didnt ruin anything but i bought that for 200, it wasnt in the greatest shape anyway and didnt really care about breaking it.

OK i just watched a vid on youtube and the bandit was shootin like 2 foot flames with no pipe.LOL. I can see it now, melted shoe and jeans on fire.

Buy one of these little Super Trapp's and you can just slip ot on the end of the header. $52 from Summit racing
http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/sup-344-2005_w.jpg

suzukijo
06-26-2008, 08:49 PM
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/8311/08gsf1250sr77sossticlosxb6.jpg

i really dig how the shape of the can is narrow on the bottom, and the end cap is all contoured to meet up with it, much shorter than stock.

you knew it was coming........

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/446/img5119gz5.jpg

at least mine has the abs tang cut off. i do like the engine guards on it tho.

MetrickMetal
06-26-2008, 10:42 PM
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/8311/08gsf1250sr77sossticlosxb6.jpg

i really dig how the shape of the can is narrow on the bottom, and the end cap is all contoured to meet up with it, much shorter than stock.

you knew it was coming........

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/446/img5119gz5.jpg

at least mine has the abs tang cut off. i do like the engine guards on it tho.

The can was narrow on the bottom and wide at the tip, and everyone knew you didn't give no lip to Yoshimura, Yoshimura.........Yoshimura.........big bad Yoshimura.

Sorry Joe I couldn't resist. :rofl:

whitesands
06-28-2008, 11:54 PM
suzukijo, how much weight did the GSXR take off ?

whitesands
06-28-2008, 11:55 PM
Buy one of these little Super Trapp's and you can just slip ot on the end of the header. $52 from Summit racing
http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/sup-344-2005_w.jpg

That's neat...But I wonder how loud that would be....Big weight savings though.

MetrickMetal
06-29-2008, 04:34 PM
Well I took my Bandit out for it first ride since installing my new custom Super Trapp exhaust I made up for it and I am extremely happy with how the engine performs with it.

I did some fine tuning on the number of disc's yesterday and this morning and I've now got 8 disc's in the muffler and my bike has never ran so good before. It now pulls strongly from off the line clear on up thru the upper RPM range and it has never run so smoooth even with the stock muffler or the Scorpion slipon I had on it for awhile. The power delivery seems much more tractable than it has ever felt before.

The entire power band seems much more linear and there is absolutely no surging or lean spots anywhere and it has a awesome tuned sound to it, which is not to loud or quite and there is absolutely no decel popping.

I rode it 120 miles today out around behind Edwards Air Force Base on a ride out to Boron Ca. to a great mexican restaurant I go and I averaged almost 46mpg and I was not riding it easy and the mojority of the miles were on the highway crusing at between 80 and 85 mph.

I ended up making up my own new bumper for the center stand out of aluminum and a piece of 5/16" thick x 4/3" diameter reinforced that I punched out of a sheet I had which is pressed and siliconed into the end of the billet holder. It is screwed into a hole I drilled and tapped on the back side of the center stand and it works great.

I found out the hard yesterday afternoon that the high temp paint that comes on the muffler does not like brake cleaner applied to it, as I sprayed some on a rag to clean off some crude and immediately wiped the black paint off in about a 1 1/2" area clear down to bare metal :doh: .

So I masked the area off last night and touched up the area with the same high temp paint I used to paint the midpipe, buts it does not have the same gloss as the paint on the muffler so the ares is sort of noticble right now.

So I am either going to pull off both pieces and repaint them with a matching color high temp black paint or I might even possibly paint the midpipe and muffler using a 1200 deg high temp red paint from Dupli-Color which will look pretty good against the stock paint for a completely differant look. :rider:

My custom billet and rubber side stand bumoer
http://image1.frappr.com/pix1/i/20080629/4/e/a/4eada336b9a0ff2a2341f914e68eb8f20_large.jpg

http://image1.frappr.com/pix1/i/20080629/0/9/5/0955837296c25ba24da9944b5d891f170_large.jpg

http://image1.frappr.com/pix1/i/20080629/e/a/d/eaddd455307db224357ab816d8eea66e0_large.jpg

http://image1.frappr.com/pix1/i/20080629/1/c/c/1ccc144a56a5e6a3648d030f13d0e5f00_large.jpg

PhilS
06-29-2008, 07:55 PM
El Bandito - Bike looks fantastic. Thanks for the write up on the exhaust.

Are you without turn signals front and rear?

A1A
06-29-2008, 08:54 PM
Ditto!

What Phil just said:clap:

MetrickMetal
06-29-2008, 09:44 PM
El Bandito - Bike looks fantastic. Thanks for the write up on the exhaust.

Are you without turn signals front and rear?

Thanks Phil.

I am in the process of installing some new ones and they will be on in the next couple of days. I also finally installed my custom billet rider footpeg brackets that I machined up a couple of weeks ago on the CNC mill at school. :rider:

Marc B
06-29-2008, 09:52 PM
Off subject for just a sec. to ask what wind screen is that one in the pic. ? Thanks. Bike and muffler look great!

MetrickMetal
06-29-2008, 10:18 PM
Off subject for just a sec. to ask what wind screen is that one in the pic. ? Thanks. Bike and muffler look great!

Thanks, and the screen is the DB from Suzuki. :rider:

whitesands
06-30-2008, 01:46 AM
The small diameter of the exhaust allows you to see more of the bike from the right side and really cleans it up...The color enhances the look as well...Very nice looking!

One thing that I'm curious about is what are the discs for ?

MetrickMetal
06-30-2008, 10:39 AM
The small diameter of the exhaust allows you to see more of the bike from the right side and really cleans it up...The color enhances the look as well...Very nice looking!

One thing that I'm curious about is what are the discs for ?

Super Trapp muffler use disc's to increase or decrease the amount of back pressure on the exhaust system for the purposes of tuning the exhaust to your engine for optimum performance as well as .

There is an air gap between the disc's that the exhaust exits thru and the design of the disc's also creates a low pressure area that actually helps scavenge the exhaust gases out of the engine, so by simply adding or removing dics's you change the amount of area for the exhaust gases to exit thru.

The gap between the disc's on the inside is approximately .023 wide, and the gap between the disc's on the outside is approximately .028 wide, this differance in gap width is what helps scavenge the exhaust out of the engine. :rider:

Rcdd
07-01-2008, 12:01 PM
Super Trapp muffler use disc's to increase or decrease the amount of back pressure on the exhaust system for the purposes of tuning the exhaust to your engine for optimum performance as well as .

There is an air gap between the disc's that the exhaust exits thru and the design of the disc's also creates a low pressure area that actually helps scavenge the exhaust gases out of the engine, so by simply adding or removing dics's you change the amount of area for the exhaust gases to exit thru.

The gap between the disc's on the inside is approximately .023 wide, and the gap between the disc's on the outside is approximately .028 wide, this differance in gap width is what helps scavenge the exhaust out of the engine. :rider:

Just make sure you use the anti-seize compund that comes with the exhaust....those allen screws are a Bit*h after a few months of heat cycles, when your trying to re-tune the exhaust....:rider:

red757
07-08-2008, 01:05 AM
so i took the mortar launcher off today and rode around the block about 5 minutes. Definitely felt a torque loss but seemed more peppy around 6k-9k roll on. Sounded like a full on race bike:lol2: and my buddy said he heard it the whole time. Suprisingly very little decel pop. Put the can back on and couldn't resist buying a yoshi s/s trs and power commander.

Gotta love buying a perfectly awesome new bike and already tearing it apart.:rider:

funkemaster
07-08-2008, 06:48 PM
Sorry I'm still kinda new to the game. El Bandito did you have to machine and bend the pipe from the header back or could you have just bought the exhaust and sliped it on to the old pipe? I like how the exhaust looks but I don't really have the resources to make the whole pipe setup like you have. I'm looking at getting something and I was thinking about a super trapp and if i can't do that probably the DW slip on, quiet style.

suzukijo
07-08-2008, 07:33 PM
http://image1.frappr.com/pix1/i/20080629/1/c/c/1ccc144a56a5e6a3648d030f13d0e5f00_large.jpg

the cloud behind the tree is smoke from the lake isabella fire.

the black pipe looks good.