Pie Run V: Black Bear Restaurant, Davis Mtns State Park, May 31st

[Gilk51]

The first time in West Texas! Starting this early so folks can make plans (it is 480 miles from my house in DFW).

Where:
Black Bear Restaurant
Indian Lodge
Davis Mountains State Park
Fort Davis 79734
(432) 426-3254 (Lodge) N30.592337 W103.943519, Resaurant 30.592576 W103.943625
(432) 426-3337 (State Park)

map (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=fort+davis,+texas&ie=UTF8&ll=30.592586,-103.943646&spn=0.007887,0.00971&t=h&z=17&iwloc=addr)
web sites: state park (http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/spdest/findadest/parks/davis_mountains/#fac), Indian Lodge (http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/spdest/findadest/parks/indian_lodge/#sch)

When:
11:00 AM CDT (1100 for our military minded)
31 May 2008

ANOTHER NEW 2008 LOCATION!

The arrival time is our normal morning time since most folks may have to arrive the previous day. The time can be negotiated.

Who:
Definite: :sun:
Bucky1845
wildebube+2
KLR Dave
mhward1337
Quick-Silver
Gilk51
STScott
voyagerrider+Kathy
ed29
kurt
Jbay+2
FJR Bandit
Ed_Grant
Buck&Betty
Texfire
ptwohig
KenH
Simmons1
lddave

Probable: :cool2:
twtex85

Maybe: :scratch:
Texason
Red Brown

Thinking about it :ponder:

Unlikely but a hair of a chance... :pray:
Michelle
jsb223
whannon (doubtful) :-(

Cancellations :-(
jhansen :tears:

No Way (doing something else & have to tell you about it ;-) ) :doh:
1TallTXn
DFW_Warrior
lobo10s

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Not sure about overnight availablity - Marfa and Alpine are close, so that may provide more options.

Thanks to David (FJR Bandit) for scouting (http://www.twtex.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24886) out this location! :clap:

[Bucky1845]

I plan on being there.
Bucky

[1TallTXn]

Wow, got May up already? trying to make up for being slow last time around? :nana:

I ain't gonna be there

[Gilk51]

Wow, got May up already? trying to make up for being slow last time around?

:thpt:

Actually, someone requested early info in the 2008 Pie Run Schedule, so, I tried to provide it. :roll:

[FJR Bandit]

I plan on being there.
Bucky

Are you the person who joined us in Feb. at Uncle's place in Terlingua?

[DFW_Warrior]

Nevermind......

I'll be blowing stuff up that weekend so I can't make it....

[Bucky1845]

Haven't been to any of these things. Living in Mx, I've gotta do my Texas associations/riding during abbreviated times. And that involves some conflicts, like wife's needs, Tex-Mex eating, relative visiting, tax paying, renewing licenses, etc.

Looking forward to this since I try to keep up by lurking here.
Bucky

[Michelle]

Unlikely but a hair of a chance.

[wildebube]

I've had motel reservations for about three weeks now. I guess that makes me a definite.

[ed29]

I am highly probable at this time. Most likely will tent camp at the state park Saturday night. Will probably break the ride there into a Friday/Saturday deal and camp somewhere along the way Friday night. Slab home on Sunday. Others from DFW thinking about similar plans????

[jsb223]

The first time in West Texas!...

Unlikely but a hair of a chance..

Any idea of a Friday route so I might intercept out of Waco area?

Been wanting to "go west old man" since I got the ZRX...

[Gilk51]

Will probably break the ride there into a Friday/Saturday deal and camp somewhere along the way Friday night. Slab home on Sunday. Others from DFW thinking about similar plans????

I was thinking of riding down on Friday, finding a place close by, staying Friday and Saturday nights, coming home on Sunday.

Any idea of a Friday route so I might intercept out of Waco area?

I was looking at the 377/67 route thru San Angelo and Alpine. That looks like the way Rich (Simmons1) came back from Alpine last weekend.

[wildebube]

I was thinking of riding down on Friday, finding a place close by, staying Friday and Saturday nights, coming home on Sunday.



I was looking at the 377/67 route thru San Angelo and Alpine. That looks like the way Rich (Simmons1) came back from Alpine last weekend.

That's my plan exactly - except that I made reservations at the Sunday House Inn in Alpine already and won't be doing the "finding a place close by" part.

[TexasShadow]

:tears: :tears:

[STScott]

I was thinking of riding down on Friday, finding a place close by, staying Friday and Saturday nights, coming home on Sunday.



I was looking at the 377/67 route thru San Angelo and Alpine. That looks like the way Rich (Simmons1) came back from Alpine last weekend.


Chuck...I'll head out with you on Friday but I am going to have to come back on Saturday as I have to work on Sunday.

[STScott]

Nevermind......

I'll be blowing stuff up that weekend so I can't make it....

Really? Do tell!!!

[Simmons1]

377/67 is the shortest route there I believe. Not much to see but you make good time.

Put me down as maybe, even though I was just there this past weekend. In fact I drove right by the place about 9:30 on Saturday Morning.

[DFW_Warrior]

Really? Do tell!!!

I have a fireworks show at the Ranger game that night. So I will be up on a roof right about the same time you all are sitting down for pie.

[lobo10s]

We will be exploring the roads in Colorado from May 23 - June 1 so we will be a no show. Whoo hoo I can't wait! :rider:

[mhward1337]

Hmmm..... Don't see how I could miss this since it is just down the street from me. :sun: Looking forward to it! :eat:

Mike
2006 GL1800
McDonald Observatory

[twtex85]

I'm thinking that I will try to make this one if the weather holds out. Would most likely ride down Friday and camp Friday night and Sat night in Davis State Park and then head back early Sunday. Haven't explored any of the roads around Ft Davis nor have I seen the McDonald observatory and Ft Davis itself. That ought to be enough to keep me busy for a couple of days. The weather should be very nice for camping in late May and if the weather is clear the stars should put on quite a show :shock: at night around that neck of the woods. Anyone else planning on camping in the State Park ? If so let me know.

[Quick-Silver]

Put me down as a Definite: :sun:

[aharbi]

Just returned from 8 days of riding out there (Apline, Davis Mts, Carlsbad NM, Big Bend, etc).
Indian Lodge
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk100/aharbi/IMG_2869.jpg
McDonald Observatory
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk100/aharbi/IMG_2870.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk100/aharbi/IMG_2886.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk100/aharbi/IMG_2900.jpg

[jhansen]

I am only in the weak planning stage for this. I am wondering if there is a chance of getting to see the McDonald Observatory up close? Hours it is open? thanks

[Gilk51]

Guess I better get to work on this one. :eek2:



Zeee list - she is updated! :-P

[STScott]

Chuck....what do we mean you and I are "probable"???!!!!!! :eek2:

We're GOING!!!!! : :rider: :eat:

[Gilk51]

Chuck....what do we mean you and I are "probable"???!!!!!! :eek2:

We're GOING!!!!! : :rider: :eat:

:rofl:

I figured that would get you to commit... :trust:

We just need to figure out what days. You originally said that you would be working Sunday. We need to discuss over ice cream... http://www.texasarlingtoncs.us/pics/smilies/insimenator/icescream.gif

oh yeah - list UPDATED! :lol2:

[kurt]

I'm really hating the fact that vacation for Sunday is already full. :thpt:

[Gilk51]

I'm really hating the fact that vacation for Sunday is already full. :thpt:

So, you're a "Probable" then? :-P

[mhward1337]

I am only in the weak planning stage for this. I am wondering if there is a chance of getting to see the McDonald Observatory up close? Hours it is open? thanks

Go to http://mcdonaldobservatory.org/visitors/ for info on visiting to observatory.

Cheers,
Mike
McDonald Observatory
2006 GL1800

[voyagerrider]

Put me and Kathy for definite maybe. Since you have a 1100 start time looks like we will have to ride out Friday when I get off work. Stop somewhere along the way (maybe Brownwood or a bit further) and maybe camp. Then come on in Saturday. Camp at the state park, and try to do a Saturday evening Star Party at the observatory. We have never done a Star Party, seen the observatory before. If you have never seen the observatory before it is well worth the tour I highly recommend it. Then super slab it home Sunday. Maybe have time to grab a couple of geocaches in the area and take some pictures of the courthouses in Jeff Davis, Presido, & Brewster counties. Yes Chuck you have got us doing it now.
Marty

[kurt]

IF I were to arrange coverage for work, where is everyone staying?

[STScott]

:rofl:

I figured that would get you to commit... :trust:

We just need to figure out what days. You originally said that you would be working Sunday. We need to discuss over ice cream... http://www.texasarlingtoncs.us/pics/smilies/insimenator/icescream.gif

oh yeah - list UPDATED! :lol2:

I am way too predictable!!!! :doh:


I was looking at the wrong day....I am off Thursday to Monday that week!!!! So we can take our time to get there and get back if you are so inclined.:clap:

I will be at Ice Cream next week....I am in Austin this weekend for the LE Memorial ride.....I think the Star Party would be a cool thing to do.

[ed29]

I am IN as Yogi says.
My plan is to leave Friday afternoon and stay along the way. Star party Saturday night sounds like a good deal, is one scheduled? I could not find the star party schedule on the observatory site.

I have the following week off work so I am using this as a jumping off point for a western states tour on the FJR. Not sure which states I will be visiting, but will be taking maps and going as I please. No advance reservations on this trip.

I am interested in riding along with other DFW folks on the way out, we can talk about it at one of the regular gatherings.

[kurt]

Coverage found. I'm IN. Now I just need to find a place for Friday and Saturday nights. Who's doing what?

[honda_silver]

I am thinking of going ... no guarantees.

If I go, I would want to leave Friday and return Sunday.
I would like to visit to other areas like Big Bend ... is there anyone thinking of doing additional group rides?

Anyone sharing rooms??

When I drove in west Texas, it seemed like gas stations were few and far between. I would have to do some investigation/searches.

[STScott]

This is what I found:

Evening Star Party
Enjoy a tour of the constellations and view the moon, planets, stars, galaxies, and other objects through large telescopes at our Visitors Center Public Observatory. The program is fun for the entire family, and is open to everyone. In the event of rain, significant clouds, or high winds/dust/humidity, a series of unique indoor presentations will stimulate your interest and curiosity; refunds due to inclement weather are not available. The StarDate Café and Gift Shop open one hour before the Star Party.
RESERVATIONS ARE NEITHER REQUIRED NOR ACCEPTED FOR STAR PARTIES.

Star Party Pass Adult Child (6-12) Family (5+)
Every Tuesday/Friday/Saturday

Mar 9-Apr 30: 9:00 P.M.
May 1-Aug 31: 9:30 P.M.
Sep 1-Nov 3: 8:30 P.M.
Nov 4-Mar 8: 7:30 P.M.

Times valid for 2008 ONLY
$10 $8 $40


Spend the day with us and get both passes for a reduced rate:

Daytime Pass
+
Star Party Pass Adult Child (6-12) Family (5+)
Combine both and save! $15 $12 $60


DRESS WARMLY!!! Temperatures vary quite a bit at our elevation (6,300-6,800 feet above sea level) and are usually much cooler than other areas of Texas. The mountain air can cool as much as 20 degrees after sunset and most of the Star Party program takes place outside under the stars. For summer make sure you bring at least a light jacket and long pants. For Fall, Winter, and early Spring programs, layer your attire and bring a warm coat, thermals, gloves, and something to keep your head warm.

When should I visit for a Star Party?
Although there is no single best answer to this question, one of the more important things to keep in mind is the phase of the Moon. With the Moon at any phase between several days before First Quarter and 3 or 4 days past Full, bright moonlight limits our ability to observe faint objects but, of course, gives us great views of the Moon itself.

At the U.S Naval Observatory data service site, you can find lists of dates of the four major moon phases to help you make your plans.

Twilight Program

Our Twilight Program is an engaging, 60-70 minute learning experience which takes place on Star Party nights only, one and a half hours before the Star Party begins. This program is separate from and does not include the Star Party, although you may do both if you wish...most people do.

In our current Modelling the Solar System Twilight Program, you will learn about objects close to home in our own Solar System. We'll use special software in our multimedia theater to illustrate the motion and location of the planets, then we'll construct a (mostly) scale model of the Solar System in our outdoor amphitheater using the program participants as the planets themselves.

This program is great for all ages. Dress warmly...some of this program takes place outdoors.

Ticket prices for the Twilight Program vary with program content; tickets for our current Modelling the Solar System program are $5.00 in addition to Star Party.

Twilight Program Adult Child (6-12)
Every Tuesday/Friday/Saturday

Mar 9-Apr 30: 7:30 P.M.
May 1-Aug 31: 8:00 P.M.
Sep 1-Nov 3: 7:00 P.M.
Nov 4-Mar 8: 6:00 P.M.

Times valid for 2008 ONLY
$



From what I can see....one of us will have to be there right when it opens (10am) to get tickets for the Star Party that evening...does anyone how far from Pie Run location is from the observatory?

[kurt]

OK, I guess I'll just book something and hope it is close. :lol2:

[Gilk51]

We haven't made any arrangements yet, Kurt. We might try the lodge one night. I need to get with some the STOC folk and see what is available in Alpine, too...

[aharbi]

I am only in the weak planning stage for this. I am wondering if there is a chance of getting to see the McDonald Observatory up close? Hours it is open? thanks

Sure is and I highly recommend it. http://mcdonaldobservatory.org/visitors/

Gas is available. Should not be a problem. Just don't pass up an opportunity to fill-up when it is available. Alpine has lodging close to Ft Davis. A streight 24 mile run up 118. I like to stay at the http://www.antelopelodge.com/ Biker friendly, ice, washer/dryer .75 coke machine, fridg, microwave, stove, bike rags upon request. and $45/nite for a single.

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk100/aharbi/IMG_2690.jpg

and for the courthouse fans
Marfa
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk100/aharbi/IMG_2691.jpg

Fort Davis
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk100/aharbi/IMG_2837.jpg

[voyagerrider]

Sure is and I highly recommend it. http://mcdonaldobservatory.org/visitors/

Gas is available. Should not be a problem. Just don't pass up an opportunity to fill-up when it is available. Alpine has lodging close to Ft Davis. A streight 24 mile run up 118. I like to stay at the http://www.antelopelodge.com/ Biker friendly, ice, washer/dryer .75 coke machine, fridg, microwave, stove, bike rags upon request. and $45/nite for a single.

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I don't know when you last stay at the Antelope Lodge, but we stayed there in '06. We thought the place was a dump. The A/c's barely worked, they weren't all that clean, and in one the cable for the TV was strung on the floor across the doorway going into the kitchette. We had to hunt up stuff in the back room of the office to find coffee pot & cups. The office wasn't open any morning before 9. The whole was in bad need of renovation. It was not a good experience, we won't stay there again.
Marty

[kurt]

Hmmmm. The next best price I can find out there is $80/night at the state park or $109 in Ft. Stockton.

[Quick-Silver]

I just book a reservation at the Motel Bien Venido in Alpine - $38 + Tax. My expectation is that it is going to be a dump. But I can do this for only one nite. I'll head back East after lunch on Saturday. May have to stay over Saturday nite in Junction.:rider: :eat: :rider:

[Jbay]

we are a definite (+2) at Indian Lodge Fri & Sat night

(they already charged my card for one night, whaaat)

may bring more and camp too, Star Party whooo

[aharbi]

I don't know when you last stay at the Antelope Lodge, but we stayed there in '06. We thought the place was a dump. The A/c's barely worked, they weren't all that clean, and in one the cable for the TV was strung on the floor across the doorway going into the kitchette. We had to hunt up stuff in the back room of the office to find coffee pot & cups. The office wasn't open any morning before 9. The whole was in bad need of renovation. It was not a good experience, we won't stay there again.
Marty

We stayed there last week. It was very clean. Coffee pot & cups in the room. Plenty of clean towels & hot water. Yes, if you wanted to cook, you had to get the kitchen supplies (free of charge) from a supply room behind the office, next to the ice machine. They do open after 9am and the office closes at 9pm. For late arrival they leave your key in the office door. Granted no Ramada Inn (thats down the road a few more miles) but not a Ramada rate either. To each their own. I like it and will stay there again.
I like the flavor of the Mom/Pop old route 66 type places if you will when I travel on the bike. I like to taste the area sometimes you loose most of the time I've been lucky. c'est la vie
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk100/aharbi/bigbend021.jpg

[FJR Bandit]

ok ok OK! Soooooo, since I choose this place for the first West Texas pie run :eat: ........I guess it would be wrong for me to miss it :deal: ..........so I'm IN.:mrgreen:

I'll be riding in on Friday and camping at the State park. Having pie on Saturday and going for a street ride in the Big Ben area (Marfa, Presido, Lajita, Terlingua and ????? back to Fort Davis. Camping Saturday night and slabbing back home on Sunday after breakfast.

Anyone want to meet for the ride down or back?????

[FJR Bandit]

BTW...who all is camping at the State Park???

[kurt]

I'm booked at Indian Lodge as well. They have 4 single rooms left, so get 'em while they're still available.

[kurt]

You DFW guys let me know how you plan to go, I might meet you along the way.

[honda_silver]

I'll be riding in on Friday and camping at the State park. Having pie on Saturday and going for a street ride in the Big Ben area (Marfa, Presido, Lajita, Terlingua and ????? back to Fort Davis. Camping Saturday night and slabbing back home on Sunday after breakfast.

Anyone want to meet for the ride down or back?????

Where in "South Texas" are you?

My plans sound very similar to yours I am thinking of going on Friday via a southern route:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=12347243800917836663,30.631060,-98.705630%3B3903651934988838399,29.825000,-100.565110%3B5093056454919069941,30.591140,-103.892230&saddr=Georgetown,+TX+78628&daddr=S+St+Hwy+16+%4030.631060,+-98.705630+to:Texas+Pecos+Trail%2FUS-377+%4029.825000,+-100.565110+to:State+Highway+118,+Fort+Davis,+TX+79 734+(Indian+Lodge)&sll=30.722949,-100.821533&sspn=6.608687,10.283203&ie=UTF8&ll=30.116622,-100.821533&spn=6.649787,10.283203&z=7

Camping both Friday and Saturday at the State park.

Saturday would be Big Bend and may if possible
http://mcdonaldobservatory.org/visitors/programs/#starpartypass

Then slabbing back home on Sunday too.

[atlas750]

Anyone leving from the Houston area?

[twtex85]

I'm planning on camping at the state park on Friday night and Saturday night then heading back on Sunday. Anyone in the DFW area that wants to head down on Friday am and possibly ride down in a group then lets get together and work out time and meeting place . I'm in the Plano area.

[FJR Bandit]

Where in "South Texas" are you?

I'm between Laredo and Corpus Christi.

I have not decided if I'm going to slab it on I-10 :yawn: and do some local riding on Friday or take a more easy going back road approach.

What route are you looking at and what bike will you be :rider:?

[honda_silver]

What route are you looking at and what bike will you be :rider:?

I mapped a tentative route via google maps:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=12347243800917836663,30.631060,-98.705630%3B3903651934988838399,29.825000,-100.565110%3B5093056454919069941,30.591140,-103.892230&saddr=Georgetown,+TX+78628&daddr=S+St+Hwy+16+%4030.631060,+-98.705630+to:Texas+Pecos+Trail%2FUS-377+%4029.825000,+-100.565110+to:State+Highway+118,+Fort+Davis,+TX+79 734+(Indian+Lodge)&sll=30.722949,-100.821533&sspn=6.608687,10.283203&ie=UTF8&ll=30.116622,-100.821533&spn=6.649787,10.283203&z=7

what bike will you be :rider:?

Honda Silverwing

[voyagerrider]

We stayed there last week. It was very clean. Coffee pot & cups in the room. Plenty of clean towels & hot water. Yes, if you wanted to cook, you had to get the kitchen supplies (free of charge) from a supply room behind the office, next to the ice machine. They do open after 9am and the office closes at 9pm. For late arrival they leave your key in the office door. Granted no Ramada Inn (thats down the road a few more miles) but not a Ramada rate either. To each their own. I like it and will stay there again.
I like the flavor of the Mom/Pop old route 66 type places if you will when I travel on the bike. I like to taste the area sometimes you loose most of the time I've been lucky. c'est la vie
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk100/aharbi/bigbend021.jpg

Wow! The rooms we had didn't look anything like that. The cabins they put us in where a lot smaller. With 4 adults 2 beds that were somewhere between a twin and a full. My wife and are not very big pepople and we had to turn over in unison. If you wanted to sit on the john in the bath you almost had to back into bathroom it was so small. The kitchette was the same way walk straight in back out. Both of the room we had looked like they had last been repainted back in 50's. There was 8 of us staying in 2 rooms for 2 nights. We thought it looked really neat on the internet, but it was something else. We won't stay there again!
Marty

[voyagerrider]

Chuck add us to list of those that will be attending this pie run. We will be camping at the State Park Saturday. Thats Voyagerrider + 1 (Kathy)
Marty

[Ed_Grant]

I'm going.

Got a single room in Alpine.

[ColGoodnight]

Lodging: There's also camping and the 18 rooms of San Solomon Springs Courts at Balmorhea State Park (http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/spdest/findadest/parks/balmorhea/), just 32 miles from Ft. Davis down one of the best little rides in the state.

Scoot safe,
Tom

[Gilk51]

Chuck add us to list of those that will be attending this pie run. We will be camping at the State Park Saturday. Thats Voyagerrider + 1 (Kathy)
Marty

I am slow in updating the list but I have you "IN" now.

Yep, the list has been updated.

[honda_silver]

I mapped a tentative route via google maps:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=12347243800917836663,30.631060,-98.705630%3B3903651934988838399,29.825000,-100.565110%3B5093056454919069941,30.591140,-103.892230&saddr=Georgetown,+TX+78628&daddr=S+St+Hwy+16+%4030.631060,+-98.705630+to:Texas+Pecos+Trail%2FUS-377+%4029.825000,+-100.565110+to:State+Highway+118,+Fort+Davis,+TX+79 734+(Indian+Lodge)&sll=30.722949,-100.821533&sspn=6.608687,10.283203&ie=UTF8&ll=30.116622,-100.821533&spn=6.649787,10.283203&z=7


Unbelievable after all the dreaming and planning, I was even thinking of taking my youngest son.

I was just told that WE have to attend our ex-neighbor's daughter graduation that weekend. Our kids and their kids grew up together and we still interchange our kids for visits.

:giveup:

So I will have to downgrade from probable to doubtful.

[Texason]

For people still looking for a place to stay you might consider Balmorhea State Park. We just returned from a week-long visit to their "historic" motor-hotel. Lodging is just decent but you can get a room with a galley-kitchen. The two best parts though are the HUGE spring-fed pool and the road to Fort Davis is a spectacular ride.

[ColGoodnight]

For people still looking for a place to stay you might consider Balmorhea State Park. We just returned from a week-long visit to their "historic" motor-hotel. Lodging is just decent but you can get a room with a galley-kitchen. The two best parts though are the HUGE spring-fed pool and the road to Fort Davis is a spectacular ride.

Great, two suspiciously similar essay answers - now we'll have to go to the vice principle's office. Hopefully, since my post was #58 and yours was #61, only you will get licks. :rofl:

Tom

[Gilk51]

Great, two suspiciously similar essay answers - now we'll have to go to the vice principle's office. Hopefully, since my post was #58 and yours was #61, only you will get licks. :rofl:

I will lobby to get you both suspended - very suspicious! :lol2:

[wildebube]

My brother-in-law, KLR Dave, hasn't responded, but he'll be there too. I've also recruited another guy from work to come along and I'm working on another one. Neither of them have signed up here, but I've dragged them to other pie runs in Edom and Hico. So add Dave and make me a +1 for now.

[Gilk51]

Trouble makers in the schedule thread said this: ;-)

:eat: After thinking it over we are joining you for the W.Tx.Pie run.
You know how the Baggers are!!!

So I guess ya'll will be added when I update the list here in a minute...
:yawn:

[Texason]

Great, two suspiciously similar essay answers - now we'll have to go to the vice principle's office. Hopefully, since my post was #58 and yours was #61, only you will get licks. :rofl:

Tom

That is weird. I swear I read the entire thread trying to make sure I was not being redundant. I'll read more carefully next time!

I came back here to add the story of my bogus traffic stop from last week on the very road from Balmorhea to Fort Davis. My wife, son, and my parents were all piled into my Xterra returning from the Star Party at the McDonald Observatory. Driving in the dark and knowing there are tons of suicidal animal life in the area I was driving 10 mph under the limit and being super-attentive to the road. I suddenly found myself being pulled over by the DPS. For once I knew I was not speeding and wasn't the slightest bit nervous about the stop. I was told I was being pulled over because I "swung wide over the shoulder" on a l o n g straight-away. The officer made a big deal about not giving me a ticket "this time". I sure would like to know what offense I had committed even IF I had gone over the line. Anway, after we pulled away, before I could even express my opinion, everyone else in the car was exclaiming what a crock that stop was and that I had never strayed from the straight and narrow down the center of the lane.

I've read on here before about people being pulled over in West Texas for bogus reasons. Be advised, it is still happening!

[voyagerrider]

Our reservations for a campsite at San Angelo SP on Friday and at Davis Mtns SP for Sat are made. We are also going to a Star Party at the observatory Sat nite. You do not have to have reservation for that, they take everybody who shows up. The Twlight party starts at 8 PM and the Star party at 9:30, last 2 hours.
Marty

[mhward1337]

This is what I found:

Evening Star Party
...
From what I can see....one of us will have to be there right when it opens (10am) to get tickets for the Star Party that evening...does anyone how far from Pie Run location is from the observatory?

It's about 10 miles from the State Park. However, you don't have to run up there in the morning. You can get the tickets when you so up for the Star Party. They never "sell out" a Star Party, however, they can be upwards of 1,000 people there during spring breaks. A typical May/June one will have about 200 people each night.

Cheers,
Mike
McDonald Observatory
2006 GL1800

[Red Brown]

A word of caution from another friend who rode out there recently - on the loop that goes through the Davis Mountains - DPS troopers are everywhere. It's part of some "border security" thing. He also noted many troopers on the roads south of Alpine and Ft. Davis were present in large numbers. They were in white pickups with no lights on top - so they blend in well and are hard to distinguish.

They are eager to pull over anyone for the slightest violation. If you do get pulled over, mention that you are a TWT user and see if they just write you only a warning.

RB

[terrebandit]

Indian Lodge is a nice place to stay and the food is good there too. I was there about a month ago. Unfortunatey, this would put a serious dent in my gas budget so I'm going to have to pass. y'all have fun.

[KenH]

Any heads-up on the road conditions on US180 between Weatherford and Lemesa? I don't think T-dub will do very well on the interstate with the trade winds blowing. Proposed route:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=13617185701947920286,32.918432,-97.331497%3B11814815183273748534,30.592040,-103.943570&saddr=Harmon+Rd+%4032.918432,+-97.331497&daddr=32.486597,-102.266235+to:TX-P3+%4030.592040,+-103.943570&mra=dpe&mrcr=0&mrsp=1&sz=9&via=1&dirflg=h&sll=32.754942,-101.791077&sspn=1.076383,2.559814&ie=UTF8&ll=32.29642,-100.415039&spn=4.32698,10.239258&z=7

[Simmons1]

Any heads-up on the road conditions on US180 between Weatherford and Lemesa? I don't think T-dub will do very well on the interstate with the trade winds blowing. Proposed route:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=13617185701947920286,32.918432,-97.331497%3B11814815183273748534,30.592040,-103.943570&saddr=Harmon+Rd+%4032.918432,+-97.331497&daddr=32.486597,-102.266235+to:TX-P3+%4030.592040,+-103.943570&mra=dpe&mrcr=0&mrsp=1&sz=9&via=1&dirflg=h&sll=32.754942,-101.791077&sspn=1.076383,2.559814&ie=UTF8&ll=32.29642,-100.415039&spn=4.32698,10.239258&z=7

180 past Weatherford is still a 70 MPH speed limit with nothing to look at except going through the small towns. Although, your chance of getting blown of the road by a semi is probably a lot lower on 180.

[Tank2Tank]

Well, I'm going to miss another one. My bike will be in the shop most of that day getting it's 12K scheduled maintenance before I head for Colorado on the 13th.
For those that go, the ride from about 5 miles north of McDonald observatory south into Ft. Davis is a favorite, and the Ft. Davis loop is interesting for the wind turbine farms on the mesas.

Be careful of deer in south Texas; one of my riding buddies from Tyler just got back and on the way down there had a deer attempt to jump over him as he was riding by on his bike. Scarred up his helmet where the deer's hoofs hit it:
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm148/dmccorkle/deermarksonhelmet.jpg

Ride Safe,
Dale

[m8rt]

A word of caution from another friend who rode out there recently - on the loop that goes through the Davis Mountains - DPS troopers are everywhere. It's part of some "border security" thing.

+1

It's a whole different deal down there.

10 years ago I was all over that area and there were no speed limits, everyone just drove 90+.
That's no longer a good idea.
Also back then I drove 1021 south from Eagle Pass and east to Carrizo Springs on 2644. Saw no LEO.
Last week I made the same trip and was amazed at the number of Border Patrol vehicles I was paying for. Easily 3 dozen on that road alone.

[KenH]

180 past Weatherford is still a 70 MPH speed limit with nothing to look at except going through the small towns. Although, your chance of getting blown of the road by a semi is probably a lot lower on 180.

Thanks, Rich. I think the hotrods will be busting down the interstate since it is so close to 180.

Is gasoline available in Fort Davis? Google Maps can't find a station there.

[lddave]

Thanks, Rich. I think the hotrods will be busting down the interstate since it is so close to 180.

Is gasoline available in Fort Davis? Google Maps can't find a station there.

There was two places to get gas one was 24 hour pay at the pump.

[KenH]

Thanks, Dave.

[Texfire]

Kurt, you riding out Friday and back on Sunday?

[kurt]

Kurt, you riding out Friday and back on Sunday?

That's the plan.

[STScott]

That's the plan.

Where are you guys staying? Chuck and I got a room at the Indian Lodge...we'll be arriving sometime on Friday....I think we are taking 67 from the DFW area (and will be stopping at several courthouses I am sure :doh: :eek2: )

[kurt]

Where are you guys staying? Chuck and I got a room at the Indian Lodge...we'll be arriving sometime on Friday....I think we are taking 67 from the DFW area (and will be stopping at several courthouses I am sure :doh: :eek2: )

I'm at Indian Lodge as well. I plan to leave Georgetown about 0800, but haven't finalized a route.

[STScott]

I'm at Indian Lodge as well. I plan to leave Georgetown about 0800, but haven't finalized a route.

Well...if for some reason you decide on taking 67, let us know and maybe he can figure out a place to hook up....we are leaving DFW at 0600....if not we'll see ya at the lodge.

[Texfire]

I'm in. Got a room in Indian Lodge reserved for Friday and Saturday. If Kurt doesn't mind I'll let him plan the route and tag along.

[kurt]

I'm in. Got a room in Indian Lodge reserved for Friday and Saturday. If Kurt doesn't mind I'll let him plan the route and tag along.

Let meet at 0800 at the McDondalds at the "Y" Here's the planned route if you'd like to see it:

[Jbay]

Well...if for some reason you decide on taking 67, let us know and maybe he can figure out a place to hook up....we are leaving DFW at 0600....if not we'll see ya at the lodge.

what time will y'all be in Glen Rose abouts? 7am?

[Texfire]

Let meet at 0800 at the McDondalds at the "Y" Here's the planned route if you'd like to see it:

Looks like a good one. I'll meet you at Mickey D's on Friday at 0800. We want to grab some breakfast there or fend for ourselves before showing up? Jim's is across the street, but McDonalds would get us on the road faster if we do.

[kurt]

Let's do Jim's then leave from there at 0800. So, 0715 or so?

[Texfire]

Works for me. I'm on my Kelly that day, so I won't be coming off duty.

[Quick-Silver]

Works for me. I'm on my Kelly that day, so I won't be coming off duty.

Let's do Jim's then leave from there at 0800. So, 0715 or so?

I'm leaving Friday morning. I had planned to make for Fburg and grab 290 over to I-10, but I would be open for another route if I had company.

Any chance I could meet up with you guys along the way?

[kurt]

I'm leaving Friday morning. I had planned to make for Fburg and grab 290 over to I-10, but I would be open for another route if I had company.

Any chance I could meet up with you guys along the way?

we should be in Fredericksburg around 0900 or so.

[Texfire]

Or Kerrville by 0930ish.

[STScott]

what time will y'all be in Glen Rose abouts? 7am?


I believe that should be about right.....pick a spot and we'll hook up.

[Jbay]

i'll be at the Chevron, if y'all are later thats fine

courthouses eh :zen:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=l&hl=en&geocode=&q=chevron&near=glen+rose,+tx&ie=UTF8&ll=32.240828,-97.760382&spn=0.034629,0.054417&z=14&iwloc=A

[Gilk51]

what time will y'all be in Glen Rose abouts? 7am?

I believe that should be about right.....pick a spot and we'll hook up.

OK - I guess I had better get hopping on a route (I've been working on my bike all day). I had tentatively planned to taking I20 from SW Arlington and putter down 377 to Stephenville and pick up 67 there.

BUT... I would rather do Glen Rose any day. It usually takes about an hour and 15-20 minutes to take 287 - 917 - 2280 - 67. I like that way better (avoids Granbury).

I hope that is OK with Scott... :eek2:

You guys want to do a quick breakfast in Glen Rose? - there is a Burger King but there might be a better place. I just need a bacon-egg-cheese biscuit and a Dr Pepper & I'm good (gotta keep heart-healthy, you know :doh: )

I'll get a route and estimated timetable for 37 stops ... uh ... maybe by tomorrow night... :roll:

[Jbay]

Stephenville is fine, eitherway

best food stop wins

umm is Hico out of the way?, the Coffee Cup opens at 6am for breakfast

[wildebube]

Chuck and/or Scott,

We were planning on leaving Wills Point in time to meet up with a friend in Mesquite at around 0600. The plan was to take 20 to 67 and 67 all the way into Alpine. But since I'm the one leading the pack (if you can call three riders a pack), I have the prerogative to alter either the schedule or the route. So if you don't mind us inviting ourselves, and if you’re law-abiding, follow-the-speed-limit type guys, we would love to meet you and ride down together. Just tell me when and where and I'll force the other two to bend to my will.

[Gilk51]

Stephenville is fine, eitherway

best food stop wins

umm is Hico out of the way?, the Coffee Cup opens at 6am for breakfast

James! Will you please stop editting your post! :doh: :lol2:

I think Hico is out-of-the-way since we will be going thru Stephenville. If we can agree on a good place, we can wait for Lee and his 2 hooligans to catch up with us.


if you’re law-abiding, follow-the-speed-limit type guys

Well, of course! :angel:

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I updated the list & made a couple of assumptions based on message traffic here, so check post #1 and see if you're properly categorized.

I called the Black Bear - they will be open and expecting is. The gal said we should be able to sit together...

[KenH]

Plan is to leave Thursday AM and ride straight through. Do some dualsport on Friday. The 118/166 loop looks interesting for Friday afternoon or saturday morning. After pie, leave for Chisos Basin via Presidio for Saturday night. Back home on Sunday.

[STScott]

OK - I guess I had better get hopping on a route (I've been working on my bike all day). I had tentatively planned to taking I20 from SW Arlington and putter down 377 to Stephenville and pick up 67 there.

BUT... I would rather do Glen Rose any day. It usually takes about an hour and 15-20 minutes to take 287 - 917 - 2280 - 67. I like that way better (avoids Granbury).

I hope that is OK with Scott... :eek2:

You guys want to do a quick breakfast in Glen Rose? - there is a Burger King but there might be a better place. I just need a bacon-egg-cheese biscuit and a Dr Pepper & I'm good (gotta keep heart-healthy, you know :doh: )

I'll get a route and estimated timetable for 37 stops ... uh ... maybe by tomorrow night... :roll:


I am up for anything....I'm just following....the only thing I need to know is 20& Green Oaks, Minyard's 6am......as for breakfast, my preference is a local place....surely there is a good breakfast spot in Glen Rose?

If not, I am not opposed to making a quick run down FM6 to Hico and back up to 67 (would only add about 20 miles to the trip).

[Gilk51]

If not, I am not opposed to making a quick run down FM6 to Hico and back up to 67 (would only add about 20 miles to the trip).

I checked it & was surprised that it only adds 16 miles. So, maybe the Koffee Kup is a candidate...

Rich also said there is a bunch of places in Brownwood. We could also do Stephenville.

decisions, decisions...

[Squeaky]

Let's do Jim's then leave from there...

What, no Taco Cabana at the Y? :mrgreen:

[jhansen]

Well, I'm not going to make this. It was a very slim chance to start with. Everyone ride safe.

[Gilk51]

Well, I'm not going to make this. It was a very slim chance to start with. Everyone ride safe.

We'll catch you at another one. Meanshile, your assignment is to have some pie this Saturday somewhere! :eat:

[Texfire]

What, no Taco Cabana at the Y? :mrgreen:

If you make me eat Taco Cabana instead of Jim's you and me are going to have words missy. :lol2:

[jhansen]

We'll catch you at another one. Meanshile, your assignment is to have some pie this Saturday somewhere! :eat:

Aye Aye Sir! :eat: Recon has been done.

[FJR Bandit]

Anyone from the Laredo, Corpus Christi, San Antonio or South Texas area going to Fort Davis on Friday? Want to get together?

[ptwohig]

Whew! Bare4ly made, bike is packed and sitting in the driveway. Time to take a short nap then off to meet Ken at 5:00 am. See you all there!

[Gilk51]

umm is Hico out of the way?, the Coffee Cup opens at 6am for breakfast

We were planning on leaving Wills Point in time to meet up with a friend in Mesquite at around 0600. The plan was to take 20 to 67 and 67 all the way into Alpine. But since I'm the one leading the pack (if you can call three riders a pack), I have the prerogative to alter either the schedule or the route. So if you don't mind us inviting ourselves, and if you’re law-abiding, follow-the-speed-limit type guys, we would love to meet you and ride down together. Just tell me when and where and I'll force the other two to bend to my will.

OK, so I guess I'll suggest we (Scott, Ed, James, and I) stop at the Koffee Kup for breakfast. It is about 90 miles from SW Arlington, so we should be there about 8:00 or so. We can either wait there for the Wills Point Crew or putter on down to Dublin on SH6 and wait in the Hard 8 parking lot for them. I will PM you guys with my cell phone number - I know a couple of you have it already.

Looking at the map, if we go to Hico, we can cut out Stephenville. If we go to Stephenville, we can skip Hico. Looks like the best KNOWN breakfast is in Hico.

Just my thoughts, but we need to decide soon. :eek2: :lol2:

Once rolling on US67, I have courthouse stops planned for:

Brownwood
Ballinger
San Angelo
Mertzon
Big Lake
Rankin
Fort Stockton
Alpine
Fort Davis

That should be plenty for gas and hydration.

How does that sound? :ponder:

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Will anyone be using FRS/GMRS comm systems? I need to decide whether to hook that up or not. I generally use channel 7 sub 7.

I'll probably have the Autocom system for the cell phone but won't have the radio on if there are no others...

[Gilk51]

Whew! Bare4ly made, bike is packed and sitting in the driveway. Time to take a short nap then off to meet Ken at 5:00 am. See you all there!

I added you to the list - are ya'll leaving on Thursday?

[KenH]

I added you to the list - are ya'll leaving on Thursday?

Leaving Thursday, 5:00AM, I-35 southbound access road, first drive on the right south of Heritage Trace Parkway. I-820/I-30/I-20 out past Weatherford, head north to US-180 before the interstate traffic kicks up to 90mph heading west. US-180 to Snyder, middle route to Andrews, through Kermit, then Pecos, to Ft. Davis. Gas at Anson and Andrews. Other pitstops as necessessessessary.

[Texfire]

I'm leaving Friday morning. I had planned to make for Fburg and grab 290 over to I-10, but I would be open for another route if I had company.

Any chance I could meet up with you guys along the way?

We set a location where we are going to meet up yet?

[Texfire]

Forecast for Fort Davis for the next four days:

Today
Partly cloudy. Isolated showers in the morning...then a slight chance of showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 80s in the mountains to the upper 90s along the Rio Grande. Southeast winds 10 to 20 mph. Chance of precipitation 20 percent.

Tonight
Partly cloudy. A 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms in the evening. Lows 60 to 66. Southeast winds 10 to 20 mph.

Friday
Partly cloudy. Highs in the upper 80s in the mountains to around 103 along the Rio Grande. South winds 10 to 15 mph.

Friday Night
Partly cloudy. Lows 61 to 68. In the mountains... southeast winds 10 to 15 mph in the evening becoming light and variable. Along the Rio Grande...east winds 10 to 15 mph.

Saturday
Increasing clouds. Highs around 90 in the mountains to around 107 along the Rio Grande. In the mountains...southwest winds around 10 mph shifting to the southeast in the afternoon. Along the Rio Grande...light and variable winds becoming southeast 10 to 15 mph in the afternoon.

Saturday Night
Partly cloudy. Lows 61 to 68.

Sunday
Partly cloudy. Highs in the upper 80s in the mountains to around 105 along the Rio Grande.

[STScott]

OK, so I guess I'll suggest we (Scott, Ed, James, and I) stop at the Koffee Kup for breakfast. It is about 90 miles from SW Arlington, so we should be there about 8:00 or so. We can either wait there for the Wills Point Crew or putter on down to Dublin on SH6 and wait in the Hard 8 parking lot for them. I will PM you guys with my cell phone number - I know a couple of you have it already.

Looking at the map, if we go to Hico, we can cut out Stephenville. If we go to Stephenville, we can skip Hico. Looks like the best KNOWN breakfast is in Hico.

Just my thoughts, but we need to decide soon. :eek2: :lol2:

Once rolling on US67, I have courthouse stops planned for:

Brownwood
Ballinger
San Angelo
Mertzon
Big Lake
Rankin
Fort Stockton
Alpine
Fort Davis

That should be plenty for gas and hydration.

How does that sound? :ponder:

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Will anyone be using FRS/GMRS comm systems? I need to decide whether to hook that up or not. I generally use channel 7 sub 7.

I'll probably have the Autocom system for the cell phone but won't have the radio on if there are no others...

Since I have never eaten at the Koffee Kup I vote for the Hico route.

[wildebube]

I vote for Hico too. We'll see you at 8:00.

[lddave]

Count me in for Saturday. I will be in Fort Davis late tonite or early Friday.

[STScott]

Weather.com is forecasting highs in the mid 90's, lows in the 60's and ZERO chance of rain!!!

Great weather for some riding!!

[ed29]

Bike is loaded, bungees double checked and a test ride confirms all should stay put. Amazing how gear for a 10 day trip can be horned into two side bags and a duffel.

I am soooo ready for a trip!

[STScott]

Bike is loaded, bungees double checked and a test ride confirms all should stay put. Amazing how gear for a 10 day trip can be horned into two side bags and a duffel.

I am soooo ready for a trip!

Didja get the FJR fixed and are you joining us tomorrow morning?

[ed29]

Yes, part came in Tuesday, 20 minutes to install it and all is well.
I will be joining y'all for the leisurely ride there. 6:00am can't come soon enough.

[Gilk51]

6:00am can't come soon enough.

Whose idea was that!? :eek2:

:lol2:

I'm getting packed but it ain't there yet...
Bike is ready tho...

[Texfire]

I'm getting packed as well. I still need to do my bike checks but wasn't going to do it this afternoon. I'm doing my inside packing during the heat.

[kurt]

I'm packed and ready to roll. The bike has been checked, the GPS loaded and I'm ready for 0600.

[Simmons1]

I'm in!

Leaving at what ever time I can sneak out of work early tomorrow. Will ride the boring route out (I20) until the deer come out and then finish up Saturday morning.

Will be leaving after Pie to head back to Fort Worth via a more scenic route.

[lddave]

I just checked into the Fort Davis Motor Inn, place is just about empty. Going to have a easy day tommorrow and then head out after lunch Saturday.

[Gilk51]

List updated - moved Simmons1 and added lddave...

Anyone else?
Where are the El Paso riders? Ain't likely to get closer than this... :shrug:

Looks like a Koffee Kup breakfast in the morning.

[Squeaky]

Wow, it's awesome that so many of y'all are making a mini-vacation out of this. Kinda like the Corpus run a couple of months ago. Maybe these "far" locations will work out after all! :rider:

[kurt]

Yeah, but I'm ready for some closer ones. No more crying from El Paso and West Texas.

[Texfire]

Okay, bike checks out and my saddlebags are packed. I've got my clothes for tomorrow, tank bag and riding gear laid out by the door. All that's left is to wake up, fill up my camelback, and head out to meet Kurt at Jim's for some breakfast.

I managed to find a sheepskin for the saddle as well as a tinted visor for my Nolan. Oh, and some Sidi boots that fit really well and had to go home with me as well...

I'm psyched and ready to hit the road.

[ed29]

Funny, just went through the list of definites looking to see who I will get to meet from west Texas, had trouble finding anyone from west of Abilene.

Where are the El Paso or Midland Odessa folks that wanted a west run?

Oh well, I will enjoy the ride, the sights, the company, and the pie. Usually we honor the farthest rider... this time I say we honor the nearest. What do you think? Sound like a plan?
:eat: :rider:

[Gilk51]

About to head out.

All be safe & see you for pie!

:rider: :eat: :rider:

[voyagerrider]

We are all packed and ready to ride when I get home at noon. We will connect up with Buck&Betty in Whiskey Flats on 377 shortly ther after. Going to try and make it as far as Rankin tonight see you all there.
Marty

[ColGoodnight]

Yeah, but I'm ready for some closer ones. No more crying from El Paso and West Texas.

Next year: South Padre and the Panhandle!

Tom

[FJR Bandit]

Yeah, but I'm ready for some closer ones. No more crying from El Paso and West Texas.

OK OK I'll start :tears: for South Texas. Wait a minute, :wary: you had one when I was stuck in New Mexico.:thpt: :lol:

Going to pack the bike now. I'll see you in Fort Davis in about 12 hours???

Scott, If you have any extra caps......I need two black ones. I lose mine on the West Coast trip someplace between Texas and New Mexico.:doh:

[Texason]

Hey! I just noticed I was on the "maybe" list. I'm not sure how I got there. Maybe just because I posted up a lodging recommendation? Anyway, it pains me much, but I am not going to make it. I would have loved to ride out there with Josh and Kurt... if I could keep up. :-)

[lddave]

I was suppose to be on a trip to Nevada but I ran over something and had to plug the tire and have it replaced in El Paso. My time schedule to make it to Nevada was screwed after the tire change so I decided to instead to head to Fort Davis and eat pie on Saturday. I was not in the best of moods today so I left for the house this afternoon . Have fun.

[jollyroger75243]

List updated - moved Simmons1 and added lddave...

Anyone else?
Where are the El Paso riders? Ain't likely to get closer than this... :shrug:

Looks like a Koffee Kup breakfast in the morning.

Just reading this. Might head out in the morning. But, just rode my rear off during the holiday weekend (3 days ago). Checking the map to see if the roads out there are straight or "fun". Not sure what a pie run is, though!

PS>I was thinking there was a thread of El Paso riders listed on this site, for fut ref.

[Red Brown]

It was fun!

We endured attacking rattle snakes, bloated wild pigs, strange wandering deer, hot and spicy south Texas temperatures of 100+ degrees....and great views of the wild west mountains.

Till next time :)

RB

[Simmons1]

I started a trip report link here:

http://www.twtex.com/forums/showthread.php?p=421698#post421698