"How Things Have Changed"

[Brotha J]

Then: Hey guys, what should we play at recess. Let's play tag!

Now: http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2006-06-26-recess-bans_x.htm

[scar04]

I went to Catholic school, thats all theyd let us play.. They banned marbles, tazos (pogs) and a whole bunch of other stuff. WE played soccer, football, heck we'd even take bats and gloves and play pickup baseball at recess. today if you walked into school with a bat, hooooo boy, youd get expelled for carrying weapons. So sad.

[kurt]

I recall being banned from pitching quarters during lunch. :trust:

[Tourmeister]

Where does the insanity end? Seriously, the idea that we should float through life in some risk free cocoon seems to be the goal of some people :doh: Life is risky!! People get hurt!! Yeah, it sucks when it's you that gets hurt, but that is just part of life! :roll:

I am telling you, this is going to get ugly. It is just more of that same mentality of controlling us for our own good. You think banning a few games on a playground is bad...? Just wait until we get our Universal Healthcare. Then costs will go up. After that will come the inevitable demand to control costs... That is when things will get REAL interesting. "Oh you drink cokes? That means we cannot cover you for X, Y, and Z. Sorry.... Next in line please..." And that will only be the beginning... :suicide:

[mjacks]

This story makes me sad for what my potential kids have in front of them. I had better save up for a good private school that will allow kids to get scratched or get a bad grade every once in a while. Do those schools exist anywhere?

[X1Glider]

I guess a good ole fashioned game of "smear the queer" wouldn't be acceptable anymore?

Gotta agree that limiting play by banning certain games is hampering kid's deveopment...physically, socially, emotionally and mentally. Also without developing a competitive spirit, kids will never grow up to ever be "exceptional" in anything they do. I don't understand what's wrong with educators today. I'm glad I grew up when I did.

[Sleepy Weasel]

I guess a good ole fashioned game of "smear the queer" wouldn't be acceptable anymore?

Oh, you are going straight to heck for even saying it.
:rofl:

[Tourmeister]

I guess a good ole fashioned game of "smear the queer" wouldn't be acceptable anymore?

Gotta agree that limiting play by banning certain games is hampering kid's deveopment...physically, socially, emotionally and mentally. Also without developing a competitive spirit, kids will never grow up to ever be "exceptional" in anything they do. I don't understand what's wrong with educators today. I'm glad I grew up when I did.

That was one of our all time favorite games. And yes, we often got hurt playing it ;-) Dodge ball was another favorite.

It kills me to think that educators are training kids to view risk as something to be avoided. True, we don't want people being reckless. However, there are times in life where taking risks is appropriate. Imagine how bland the world would be if no one ever took any risks... We'd probably still be living in tents and caves.

[DaveC]

I guess a good ole fashioned game of "smear the queer" wouldn't be acceptable anymore?

Gotta agree that limiting play by banning certain games is hampering kid's deveopment...physically, socially, emotionally and mentally. Also without developing a competitive spirit, kids will never grow up to ever be "exceptional" in anything they do. I don't understand what's wrong with educators today. I'm glad I grew up when I did.

They are the ones that got their faces planted in the dirt because they had zero phycical abilities. They could not adapt or make friends. Now they are 'administrators":doh:

[mjacks]

I guess a good ole fashioned game of "smear the queer" wouldn't be acceptable anymore?

Gotta agree that limiting play by banning certain games is hampering kid's deveopment...physically, socially, emotionally and mentally. Also without developing a competitive spirit, kids will never grow up to ever be "exceptional" in anything they do. I don't understand what's wrong with educators today. I'm glad I grew up when I did.

I loved playing that as a kid. Being the big kid on the block had its advantages. :trust:

[WoodButcher]

I got a heck of a bloody nose one time playing dodgeball. Good fun. Torn knees in all my pants. Mom hated that. Knees under the pants weren't too pretty either.

How else are you going to learn to work together as a team and resolve issues when you are a kid? You need some semi-structured, semi-monitored play.

[dixonduke]

What about "Kill The Man With The Ball?"

[Sleepy Weasel]

I loved playing that as a kid. Being the big kid on the block had its advantages. :trust:

Funny, I loved knocking down the big kids.
:mrgreen:

[Sleepy Weasel]

What about "Kill The Man With The Ball?"

That's sexist!

[pacman]

My children still enjoy the freedom to play tag in the Burleson ISD. I don't see them banning it anytime soon.

[dixonduke]

That's sexist!

Oh but it was fun to play in the middle of a good rain storm, tackling whom ever had the foot ball. Think of it as full body contact "Hot Potato".

I can remember my mother on the back porch with a couple of other parents in the afternoon watching friends that would ride the bus home to my house to be picked up by their parents, do our best to try and cream each other in the pasture beyond the back yard. Good fun indeed!

Guess I shouldn't tell y'all about the BB Gun wars and China Berry shooters either! :trust:

Or the Tag Game we made up on our dirt bikes. It involved a tennis ball in a sock, and alot of rooster tails and trees!

[Sleepy Weasel]

My children still enjoy the freedom to play tag in the Burleson ISD. I don't see them banning it anytime soon.

Depends on how many Californians move into the district. Your kids may be sent home with a rulebook for
"Pursue the individual of indeterminate gender, sexual orientation, and/or nationality, but do not violate their personal space."

[STScott]

I guess a good ole fashioned game of "smear the queer" wouldn't be acceptable anymore?

Gotta agree that limiting play by banning certain games is hampering kid's deveopment...physically, socially, emotionally and mentally. Also without developing a competitive spirit, kids will never grow up to ever be "exceptional" in anything they do. I don't understand what's wrong with educators today. I'm glad I grew up when I did.


AMEN!!! Or the other playground classic: "kill the guy with the ball". Goverment schools and idiot parents are raising a generation of wussies....heck I am seeing it in the new hires we are getting at work now...they are smart as heck, but they don't take correction very well and are quite surprised when they realize that we are not going to adjust standards down so that they can "succeed"....also try telling one of them that their opinion just doesn't matter and no one really cares about their feelings. :eek2:

Now the ones that get hired that have college and military, those are some cool cats and are fun to work around.

The ones that have just college....well....I haven't found one in the last few years that had ever been in a fistfight before getting hired. They have no idea how they are going to react the first time someone slugs them, or tries to slug them...and neither do I and that is a scary feeling going on a call with an untested rook.

Oh well....I am sure the old heads looked at my generation of hires, shook their heads and had disparaging remarks to make also. :zen:

[X1Glider]

Lest we not forget the punishments of losing or being "out" in any of those games...taking shots while spread eagle against the wall, butt kicks, chest pegs, titie twisters...I can't remember them all. The punishments were an integral part of the games. Rites of passage into manhood more or less.

[X1Glider]

How about a TWT "Smear the Queer" game for old time's sake?:lol2:

[KenH]

How about a TWT "Smear the Queer" game for old time's sake?:lol2:

Heck no, I take too long to heal these days.

Don't blame "educators" for schools becoming "safe zones", blame 1) the legislative branches of the various levels of government, 2) the attorneys that profit from twisting the words of legislation far from the intent, 3) the courts that allow attorneys that profit from twisting the words of legislation far from the intent, and 4) administrators that knuckle under to political pressure instead of doing what they know is best for kids.

[bear]

I guess a good ole fashioned game of "smear the queer" wouldn't be acceptable anymore?

Gotta agree that limiting play by banning certain games is hampering kid's deveopment...physically, socially, emotionally and mentally. Also without developing a competitive spirit, kids will never grow up to ever be "exceptional" in anything they do. I don't understand what's wrong with educators today. I'm glad I grew up when I did.


I don't think they should be banning games at recess that the kids organize and play. I think it hampers them in the ways you mention as well as limit their development of imagination. What is wrong with educators today is...
1. Parents who will sue at the drop of a hat, looking to win the legal lottery so to speak. If the educator is sued they usually loose their job.
2. Adminstrators with no backbone who will not stand up for teachers and common sense.
3. Parents who believe that the school should protect their kid 100% even if the kid does the same thing at home.
4. Psychologist and such who wants everyone to have great self esteem without ever earning it.
5. Community groups who are usually zealots who want to police and control everyone to be like them. But they vote regularly and are active in all the committees at the district and school board so only their voice is heard.

[STScott]

Lest we not forget the punishments of losing or being "out" in any of those games...taking shots while spread eagle against the wall, butt kicks, chest pegs, titie twisters...I can't remember them all. The punishments were an integral part of the games. Rites of passage into manhood more or less.


Those games and the punishments taught you that there were consequences for losing, you needed to take them without whining....and that you could survive them.

You also learned to become faster/stronger....or smarter. My Mom was telling some childhood stories and she told me how my fourth grade teacher once commented to her that I was the only fourth grader she had ever taught who had figured out strategy for "kickball". I wasn't a great athlete so I learned to think.

[Sleepy Weasel]

How about a TWT "Smear the Queer" game for old time's sake?:lol2:

Can I bring a Taser?

[Rman of 237]

:lol2: Luv that old school.....


Major General Peter Cosgrove of Australia was interviewed on the radio recently.
You'll love his reply to the lady who interviewed him concerning guns and children. Regardless of how you feel about gun laws you gotta love this! This is one of the best comeback lines of all time. It is a portion of an ABC interview between a female broadcaster and General Cosgrove who was about to sponsor a Boy Scout Troop visiting his military headquarters.

FEMALE INTERVIEWER:
So, General Cosgrove, what things are you going to teach these young boys when they visit your base?

GENERAL COSGROVE:
We're going to teach them climbing, canoeing, archery and shooting.
FEMALE INTERVIEWER:
Shooting! That's a bit irresponsible, isn't it?

GENERAL COSGROVE:
I don't see why, they'll be properly supervised on the rifle range.
FEMALE INTERVIEWER:
Don't you admit that this is a terribly dangerous activity to be teaching children?

GENERAL COSGROVE:
I don't see how. We will be teaching them proper rifle discipline before they even touch a firearm.
FEMALE INTERVIEWER:
But you're equipping them to become violent killers.

GENERAL COSGROVE:
Well, Ma'am, you're equipped to be a prostitute, but you're not one, are you?

The radio went silent and the interview ended.

[GQ*]

:eek2: R u kidding me?!

Smear the Quear and Wallball were always fun times!

BTW, that radio interview from Cosgrove was great! :clap:

[bear]

:lol2: Luv that old school.....


Major General Peter Cosgrove of Australia was interviewed on the radio recently.
You'll love his reply to the lady who interviewed him concerning guns and children. Regardless of how you feel about gun laws you gotta love this! This is one of the best comeback lines of all time. It is a portion of an ABC interview between a female broadcaster and General Cosgrove who was about to sponsor a Boy Scout Troop visiting his military headquarters.

FEMALE INTERVIEWER:
So, General Cosgrove, what things are you going to teach these young boys when they visit your base?

GENERAL COSGROVE:
We're going to teach them climbing, canoeing, archery and shooting.
FEMALE INTERVIEWER:
Shooting! That's a bit irresponsible, isn't it?

GENERAL COSGROVE:
I don't see why, they'll be properly supervised on the rifle range.
FEMALE INTERVIEWER:
Don't you admit that this is a terribly dangerous activity to be teaching children?

GENERAL COSGROVE:
I don't see how. We will be teaching them proper rifle discipline before they even touch a firearm.
FEMALE INTERVIEWER:
But you're equipping them to become violent killers.

GENERAL COSGROVE:
Well, Ma'am, you're equipped to be a prostitute, but you're not one, are you?

The radio went silent and the interview ended.

Funny, when I saw this used it was NPR and on Snopes this is one them there urban myths.:trust:

[mjacks]

How about a TWT "Smear the Queer" game for old time's sake?:lol2:

I'm game. Bring it on! ;-)

[Tourmeister]

The interview may be a myth, but like many myths, there is truth in it that is very applicable to our lives.

[tehtank]

I KNEW IT WASN'T ALL MY FAULT! Dang elementry school teachers! :miffed: :miffed:

[RedPill]

The ones that have just college....well....I haven't found one in the last few years that had ever been in a fistfight before getting hired.

Strange, I got into all my fistfights before college. Not that there were a lot of them, even then. I was always the kind of kid who would go three blocks out of my way to avoid a fight . . . until I couldn't get out of it and I snapped. I think there were Berserkers in my bloodline. :lol2:

[bear]

The interview may be a myth, but like many myths, there is truth in it that is very applicable to our lives.

Are you saying that all myths have truth in them that can be applicable or do we get to choose the myths?

My point is that this interview did not take place and the people are fictional characters and the story. The interview is fiction should be taken as such. When most people post it, they post it as a work of non fiction and that it should have merit as such. Might as well start it as "Once upon a time..."

[Tourmeister]

Are you saying that all myths have truth in them that can be applicable or do we get to choose the myths?

My point is that this interview did not take place and the people are fictional characters and the story. The interview is fiction should be taken as such. When most people post it, they post it as a work of non fiction and that it should have merit as such. Might as well start it as "Once upon a time..."

:tab I did not say ALL. I said "many". Then I specifically referenced this myth "it" as having some truth to it ;-) And yes, you are quite right. It could just have easily started with "once upon a time." I first heard it told as a joke, but the principle was the same. Simply because the potential is present, it does not necessarily follow that the potential will be realized. We are ALL potential murderers. Yet, few people would say we should all be treated as if we will be murderers.

[bear]

:tab I did not say ALL. I said "many". Then I specifically referenced this myth "it" as having some truth to it ;-) And yes, you are quite right. It could just have easily started with "once upon a time." I first heard it told as a joke, but the principle was the same. Simply because the potential is present, it does not necessarily follow that the potential will be realized. We are ALL potential murderers. Yet, few people would say we should all be treated as if we will be murderers.

I was seeking clarity on your post. I think everyday our government treats us more and more like criminals. Every legislature session a new batch of criminals are created to justify the actions of our government. Right or wrong that seems to be our nation's path.

[Tourmeister]

I was seeking clarity on your post. I think everyday our government treats us more and more like criminals. Every legislature session a new batch of criminals are created to justify the actions of our government. Right or wrong that seems to be our nation's path.

Amen... :suicide:

[Rman of 237]

Are you saying that all myths have truth in them that can be applicable or do we get to choose the myths?

My point is that this interview did not take place and the people are fictional characters and the story. The interview is fiction should be taken as such. When most people post it, they post it as a work of non fiction and that it should have merit as such. Might as well start it as "Once upon a time..."So what if it is fictional? When your grandkids are sitting on your knee and you try to explain our Constitution to them do you really want to start with "once upon a time"?:suicide: Now that might just be a reality so run with it. Just don't come running out here to the boondocks cause I'll peg ya in the head with a dodgeball. HaHa!!

[Skid]

How about a TWT "Smear the Queer" game for old time's sake?:lol2:

Or British Bulldog. :mrgreen:

[2Dogs]

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Monday, September 23, 2002

Council votes to rename "Smear the Queer"

The ISTQ council voted today to rename one of America's favorite pastimes."Smear the Queer," an incredibly fun game in which hordes chase down and tackle any person who has the ball, has been around since the gay old days of this country. The game, which involves manhandling your opponent and wrestling them to the ground, hasn't changed much throughout the years.

"For years, many a youth have played the game, chasing down the Queer. Of course, with Queer meaning the person who is different, the person who has the ball. Everyone wants his ball, so the best way for them to gain control of his ball is to smear him," stated council member John Conway.

"We were concerned that the game's name may be insensitive to those who are Queer. We don't want our children to grow up thinking it is okay to smear a Queer. Queers deserve the same amount of respect as the rest of us."

The council voted on "Smear the Tranny" since the transgendered community has yet to become a force to reckon with.
- the Artist formerly known Jehovah

[Sleepy Weasel]

The council voted on "Smear the Tranny" since the transgendered community has yet to become a force to reckon with.
- the Artist formerly known Jehovah

:rofl:

[Brotha J]

I recall being banned from pitching quarters during lunch. :trust:

Big baller! Dang, we only pitched pennies. Nickels if you felt lucky.

[Brotha J]

The ones that have just college....well....I haven't found one in the last few years that had ever been in a fistfight before getting hired. They have no idea how they are going to react the first time someone slugs them, or tries to slug them...and neither do I and that is a scary feeling going on a call with an untested rook.

There is a solution for that my friend:

Rule #1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agi8PUmlAKU)

[Maverick]

Full contact football during lunch, no pads. Of course, trying to explain to the school nurse who's checking my shoulder how I came in contact with a fence post horizontally at about 4 feet off the ground was a little challenging.

Let the kids romp, play and get ready for the real world games.

[Brotha J]

How about a TWT "Smear the Queer" game for old time's sake?:lol2:

Sorry son,
as we get older our smear skills are the first to go.

Last time I did any full-contact with the guys I ended up with stitches over my good eye. That was when I was single.

Nowadays, the wife would never go for it.

[Maverick]

Last time I did any full-contact with the guys I ended up with stitches over my good eye. That was when I was single.

Nowadays, the wife would never go for it


I don't bounce the way I used to as a kid.

Forget the wife, I don't go for it. :lol2:

[KenH]

Strange, I got into all my fistfights before college. Not that there were a lot of them, even then. I was always the kind of kid who would go three blocks out of my way to avoid a fight . . . until I couldn't get out of it and I snapped. I think there were Berserkers in my bloodline. :lol2:

Are we related?

[Brotha J]

On a serious note regarding this subject: What happens to boys (and tom-boys) when they are no longer able to play out their agression?

Seriously. Boys need to be boys! Without the good ole games like tag, smear the queer, and ditch how in the heck will they develop? Without the natural admonishments like "two for flinching", nipple twisters, and indian burns how are they going to learn about consequences?

What happened to the Conan the Barbarian, Rocky, Rambo, Universal Soldier, and Commando movie genres? Sure, there's still Japanese anime. But that stuff can get a bit graphic for young eyes. They still have the WWF, but that stuff is a little more show than it needs to be...come on an wrestle already! Violent video games are a distraction at best. They don't give boys the real release of testosterone-packed energy that they really need.

The sissification of boys is well underway.

[mjacks]

Full contact football during lunch, no pads. Of course, trying to explain to the school nurse who's checking my shoulder how I came in contact with a fence post horizontally at about 4 feet off the ground was a little challenging.

Let the kids romp, play and get ready for the real world games.

I had to drop the full contact football with out pads after 6th grade when I dislocated a kids hip who lived around the block. It would be my hip out of place these days though.

[kurt]

Mine continued into my early 20's. I lost interest once I got married.

[Sleepy Weasel]

Seriously. Boys need to be boys! Without the good ole games like tag, smear the queer, and ditch how in the heck will they develop? Without the natural admonishments like "two for flinching", nipple twisters, and indian burns how are they going to learn about consequences?


Sexist! How is your little girl going to learn about consequences?


Actually, I have no idea how little girld are supposed to learn about consequences. Maybe that's why I went to school with so many mean ones.

[Cherioer]

:angryfire :angryfire :shock: :angryfire :angryfire

I'm at a loss for word again, at least any I can use in mixed company. No wonder the kids are sniffing sharpies.:giveup:

[X1Glider]

I used to sniff Sharpies, rubber cement, mimeograph paper and eat 10 scoops of white paste before each smear the queer game. These weren't on the list of performance enhancing drugs and I liked to win! So...
;-)

[Maverick]

I had to drop the full contact football with out pads after 6th grade when I dislocated a kids hip who lived around the block. It would be my hip out of place these days though.


Ahhhh, the good old days. A time when the parent's gathered up the injured kids, got them taken care of, and then taught them to properly tackle and how not to be tackled. :rofl: