MexTrek, Oct 22-25, 2008

[Richard_]

Dual sport adventure riders,

Mark your calendar - Mextrek 2008 is Wednesday, Oct 22 - Saturday, Oct 25, 2008.

Mextrek is an annual dual sport adventure ride held in an amazing dual sport playground, the Sierra Leon region of Mexico (the Sierra Madre mountains south of Monterrey, Mexico). The riding there is truly fantastic. If you crave a "biggie size" dose of adventure or have always wanted to go adventure riding in Mexico, then Mextrek is just your ticket. You won't be disappointed.

The general plan is:

Wednesday evening, 7 p.m. - rider meet & greet
Thursday, day - ride
Thursday evening - story telling & tire kicking
Friday, day - ride
Friday evening - story telling & tire kicking
Saturday - head home (or ride more and head home on Sunday)

We are basing out of the town of Galeana, which is about 120 miles south of Monterrey.

You can download a registration form here: MexTrek (http://texasadventure.net/Mextrek/MexTrek%20Home.htm)

Registration is $35. All registered riders will receive a 48 page, spiral bound ride guide, three 11x17 color topographical maps, and a commemorative t-shirt.

The ride guide provides information on things like logistics, border crossing requirements, what to expect, bike prep and packing advice. It also includes 12 recommended routes with description, distance, rating, directions, and ride notes.

Here is this year's t-shirt design
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c178/rgibbens/MexTrek%202008/Armadillownewv2.jpg

[AusFletch]

Mark and I plan to be in Mexico during October but are leaning towards CC. MexTrek is not out of the realm of possibilities yet but, as Mark said, CC is iconic and needs to be done. It's like going to the Boston Marathon or Daytona. -Fred

[Richard_]

Fred,

I think every adventure rider should visit Copper Canyon at least once. It's a really beautiful place to ride.

[Tourmeister]

The ride Thu/Fri and head home Sunday will make it hard for some folks to come, although a new kid will likely make that a moot point for me in particular :doh: However, I am just curious at to why you've decided to do it this way?

[Richard_]

I was thinking about the logistics of getting to and from. For riders in Houston and Dallas, making the ride to Galeana or back home in 1 day is a very long day. This way, riders from either of those areas could leave Tuesday afternoon and make it to or reasonably close to the border by Tuesday evening, finishing the trip to Galeana on Wednesday. Wednesday could even include some DS riding, if the rider started at the border on Wed morning. Leave Galeana on Saturday, perhaps making a day of DS riding out of it, and end up at or just across the border Saturday night and then the rest of the trip home on Sunday, getting home at a reasonable time. With this arrangement, riders get 2 full days (Thursday and Friday) of DS riding and an option on a 3rd day (Wednesday) or 4th day (Saturday) of DS riding.

[GTgirl]

Sounds like a fun trip. I will look into it. When do the committments need to be made? Ya gonna camp? Hotel? both? Along the way?
Delores

[Richard_]

Delores,

Hotel. We will base the rally/ride in a town with sufficient hotel rooms to accommodate our group.

Early registration will open in June and close Oct 7 (2 weeks prior to the event).

[ed29]

Coming from DFW I am going to be looking for a spot to park a pickup and trailer on this side of the border, and take only the bike into Mexico. I know of one other rider whose bike will be on my trailer, and can squeeze another on too if that comes together.

I will have the whole week off from work, was wondering if anyone else was going down a couple of days early.

[Richard_]

As if we needed another reason to go ride in Mexico! I got the following in an email from Adventure Mexico Insurance (the company I buy my Mexican motorcycle insurance from):

"$$$ Gas Prices are Much Cheaper in Mexico $$$

Mexico gas prices are currently much lower than US gas prices, so you may even save money by driving to Mexico instead of a US destination!

Regular unleaded gas in Mexico is about $2.61 per gallon (US dollars & coverted from liters)

Diesel is currently even less expensive at about $2.00 per gallon (US dollars & converted from liters)"

[Richard_]

I will have the whole week off from work, was wondering if anyone else was going down a couple of days early.

Ed,

My buddy, Jammin Jerry, mentioned going down several days early to explore Real de Catorce and surrounding area. I'll mention you to him.

[TexasShadow]

I'm going down for the entire week. Maybe more; who knows.
Also considering a side trip to Zaragosa.

This stupid ankle should fit into motocross boots by then.

[thumper]

I'm in for sure! Maybe Chuck and I wiil be able to settle some un-finished business with the "Los Pintas Road" and that "burro".:giveup:

[tx246]

If any of you are thinking of CC, you had better hurry as pavement is making its way to this region in a hurry.

[Richard_]

Some pics to whet your appetite:

See all the contour lines? Those are mountains.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c178/rgibbens/Galeana.jpg

The mountains are beautiful and fun to ride.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c178/rgibbens/Uncles%20Mountain%20Recon%202007/100_1389.jpg

KLRs at 12,200 feet
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c178/rgibbens/The%20Mountain%20Recon%202007/DSC00281.jpg

Riding above the clouds
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c178/rgibbens/The%20Mountain%20Recon%202007/DSC00287.jpg

The Mexican DS Dragon
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c178/rgibbens/The%20Mountain%20Recon%202007/DSC00272.jpg

Ride HQ is the Hotel Jardin
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c178/rgibbens/The%20Mountain%20Recon%202007/DSC00320.jpg

[TexasShadow]

Some pics to whet your appetite:
Tease............

[hardybaker]

Please put me down as a hopeful. I will be leaving the BMW rally in Puerto Vallarta on Sunday Oct.19th. If I make it home in time to change bikes and pet the dogs, I hope to make the event. I might be a day or two late getting there. Anybody planning on staying later?

[gsxrmike]

I have been to CC Mexico four times, I took my two brothers to CC last year and they had a had time on the dirt from back roads from Batopilas to Urique on KLR 650's.... Mex Tex seems a little greener a little wetter and not as rugged???? How can I convince my two brothers this trip is better,,,,,,,,
Mike

[TexasShadow]

I have been to CC Mexico four times,...... That's the thing: *everybody* goes there.
I'm looking forward to visiting and riding where the riding populace doesn't go.

[gsxrmike]

OK, Someone that has been to both places, Tell me the difference in the riding,,,I am sure the people and the kids are as friendly there as in CC.
Just poking around for a little feed back....
Mike

[Chango]

Sounds good ..... If i go , i might drop down thru N. Laredo via the old highway. And right thru downtown Monterrey:rider: . Not sure whether to ride the 2wd Ural or the Ol' GS.

Just got back from the area Memorial day weekend.
Not much has changed. There is a new hotel up from Cercado on the Laguna/Rayones road. Its being b

[Chango]

Its being built behind the taco place uphill west of Cola de Caballo The owner welcomes bikers passing thru on their way to Galeana.

[Richard_]

OK, Someone that has been to both places, Tell me the difference in the riding,,,I am sure the people and the kids are as friendly there as in CC.
Just poking around for a little feed back....
Mike

Mike,

The riding in CC is more scenic. The terrain is more varied in the Sierra Leon region.

I think there are more class 1 & 2 unpaved roads in the Sierra Leon region than at CC. At CC you have two good class 2 roads (the one to Batopilas and the one to Urique). There are more rugged class 3 roads at CC (the back road from Batopilas to Urique, for example) but less options on class 2 roads.

The Sierra Leon region is lots closer, easier & quicker to get to, and less expensive to get to.

The people in Sierra Leon are quite friendly and the good looking Cuban dancers liked the gringos (just ask Uncle). :trust:

Finally, Uncle & Milton will both be in Galeana at the same time. If you really want some adventure in your life then this alone is enough to choose MexTrek over CC. If you are hanging out with those 2 guys and you don't have some epic adventure then you are probably incapable of having an adventure. :-P

[gsxrmike]

Thanks Richard,,, I think I am looking for more class 1 and 2 roads,
I am about 75% in at this point, Working on the kitchen pass,,,,,,,
Mike

[Vinny]

I missed TAR due to last minute family stuff ; I'm not missing this one. I'm bilingual so that should help some. Class 1 & 2 for me also due to my V-Strom. Looking forward to it. The pictures remind me of my native Ecuador.

[Richard_]

Vinny,

Excellent. See you there.

[Richard_]

Update:

I had a special topo map of our riding area made for us and it is finally done. The ride guide is about 3/4 finished and I'm working furiously to get it done in the next week. Based on intel from last year's recon and assistance from Milton Otto there are 12 recommended routes ranging from class 1 to class 3. And, finally, I've got a price quote for the t-shirts.

So, I expect to open registration next week.

[Quick-Silver]

Looks interesting, especially the part about the Cuban Dancers who are friendly toward older guys.:)

Is it very difficult to learn to read Mexican road signs? Will I need a short course in Mexican lingo?

If I am able to get a Zumo GPS by then would it be possible to plot a route from the US to Mexico with the maps that normally come on the US version?

I have two options as far as bikes to ride there: 1. Truck the DR350S all the way, or 2. pack and ride the KLR650 all the way there. In your opinion would one be better than the other? From my place, it a little 500 miles to Galeana.


Thanks

[Richard_]

Jerry,

It's not particular difficult to figure out what most of the roads signs are telling you. A quick review on the internet will probably bring you up to speed pretty quickly.

I don't know if you can plot a course to Galeana with the maps that come with the Zumo. But, for sure the maps that come with the Zumo don't have the smaller roads in Mexico, so I recommend the Bicimaps to you.

As for trailering the 350 or riding the KLR, it's a personal decision because I think both options are about the same. Is 500 miles of highway in 1 day on the KLR more or less appealing than trailering the DR? When you get there do you want to ride the more difficult class 3 routes or do you prefer the class 1 & 2 routes?

[Jerry]

+1 on Bicimapas (http://www.bicimapas.com.mx/MexicGPSAtlasEn.htm)

They have just released the 2008 upgrade which details many of the smaller roads and trails that were not on the 2007 and earlier versions. Also detailed on the 2008 version is a topo feature that shows up when you zoom in to a high resolution view. Their software works with Mapsource and now autoroutes. Prices are $60 for the Northeast map which covers all of our intended area, or $97 for all of Mexico.

[ISURF]

Is there an un-official/official sign up ride list, for MexTrek?

[Richard_]

Is there an un-official/official sign up ride list, for MexTrek?

Excellent question and perfect timing.

Registration is now open for MexTrek. I finishd the ride guide last night, which was the last thing I needed to get done before opening registration.

You can download the registration form here: MexTrek (http://texasadventure.net/Mextrek/MexTrek%20Home.htm)

[mff]

Check is in the Mail.

Thanks,
Mike

PS: about the Cuban women-see attached pic

[mff]

maybe this time

[Chango]

Ok,Ok, Any other sidecar rigs going? I'm going to combine this with a trip into
some other areas. Maybe West of Galeana or South of there. Not sure yet.:rider:

[Wasabi]

Excellent question and perfect timing.

Registration is now open for MexTrek. I finishd the ride guide last night, which was the last thing I needed to get done before opening registration.

You can download the registration form here: MexTrek (http://texasadventure.net/Mextrek/MexTrek%20Home.htm)

Registration and check in the mail.

Bill:rider:

[Dave Bell]

OK, help me out here. I am interested in getting into dual sport. I have 250,000 or so miles on road bikes, quite a bit of experience on ATV's in sand, dirt, and mud, and some limited dirt bike experience. Since I live in the country, I have to ride my BMW 1150RT on gravel, like, every day. Quite a bit of solo touring. I am pretty physically fit for my age which is 59. Here is my question:

Is this ride something that I could do if I apply myself? I am thinking about getting a dual sport bike, possibly a KLR, in the next couple of months, getting as much time on it as possible, and trying to be ready to go by Oct. I might trailer it down and take off riding from the start point, or I might ride down there over a two day period.

Or, should I start off with something less ambitious? By the way when I decide to do something, I can get pretty serious about it.......

db

[Richard_]

Dave,

Considering your extensive motorcycling experience and the fact that you ride on gravel often, I think you would be able to handle MexTrek fine. Get that KLR and spend some time riding dirt roads (you don't even have to ride off-road, just non-paved roads). If you can handle the dirt roads in Texas on a KLR you will be fine in Mexico on the class 1 and 2 non-paved roads.

[TerraXpeditions]

I'm heading to that area in the next couple weeks or so. Richard, need me to check on anything in particular?

[Richard_]

I'm heading to that area in the next couple weeks or so. Richard, need me to check on anything in particular?

You could check to see if they've built a third hotel in Galeana. I heard one was being built. If so, its name, address, and phone number would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for the offer.

[TerraXpeditions]

You could check to see if they've built a third hotel in Galeana. I heard one was being built. If so, its name, address, and phone number would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for the offer.

10-4 I'll check it out.

[Vinny]

I have a friend w/ bike expirience that wants to join me on this trip . But, he only has a street bike for now. Does anyone know of a rental outfit for dual sports around the border ?

[Richard_]

Vinny,

I don't know of a rental outfit at the border, but there is one in Austin that rents KLRs.

I think the challenge will be getting the vehicle sticker for a rented bike. The Mexican government is quite particular about the rules for bringing in vehicles and I'm not sure what your friend would have to do to get a rental into Mexico.

[Vinny]

Thanks Richard; I'll look into it. Maybe the rental company will know.

[TerraXpeditions]

Thanks Richard; I'll look into it. Maybe the rental company will know.

I dont know if Richard PMd you the info or not, but I'm pretty sure MotoDiscovery is the one he is referring to.

A buddy of mine was wanting to fly to Monterrey to meet me next weekend and rent a bike to ride. MD said $800 for a week to rent a DR650. I'm not sure what that includes and if it is to cross the border or not. I'm sure MD can get the bike across and you can do your thing after that. I have no idea, honestly.

Good luck.

[Vinny]

Terra
Great info; you just saved me some time. Sounds expensive though.:eek2:
I'll pass it on.

[TerraXpeditions]

Terra
Great info; you just saved me some time. Sounds expensive though.:eek2:
I'll pass it on.

Thats what we said. Let me know if you find a moto rental in that area.

[Chango]

There are 185 two stroke Suzuki's (new)for sale in Monterrey for around $2300.00 .








I have a friend w/ bike expirience that wants to join me on this trip . But, he only has a street bike for now. Does anyone know of a rental outfit for dual sports around the border ?

[Richard_]

From Adventure Mexico Insurance today via email:

Gas Prices in Mexico

"$$ Gas Prices are Much Cheaper in Mexico $$$

Mexico gas prices are currently much lower than US gas prices, so you may even save money by driving to Mexico instead of a US destination!

Regular unleaded gas in Mexico is about $2.80 per gallon (US dollars & coverted from liters)

Diesel is currently even less expensive at about $2.19 per gallon (US dollars & converted from liters)

NOTE: The further you get from the border, the cheaper the gas prices will get. The Pemex stations near the US border tend to charge much higher prices."

Passports

"Passports are NOT required for driving to Mexico, but Birth Certificates are if you do not have a passport!

- Passports or PassCards will not be required for land border crossings until June 2009.

- As of January 2008, US Border Authorities began asking for photo id and proof of US citizenship in the form of a passport or birth certificate.

-The new wallet-sized Passport Cards or PassCards can be applied for today!"

More info on passcards here (http://www.mexadventure.com/news/Passport_Card_May9.cfm)

[Ixta]

Richard,

Excellent job on the registration materials (received today). The large color topo maps were a very nice touch!

Regards,

Joel.

[Richard_]

Thanks, Joel. I appreciate the feedback.

[jinbody]

I’m in Houston, planning on trucking my bike down to McAllen and leaving the truck at relatives and just riding the bike across. Looking for a 1-3 or ? persons to hook up with for at least the ride into Galeana and possibly for the whole trip there. I’ve got a friend that is considering going, but it could go either way. My relatives have room to store another truck or trailer if you’re wanting to do the same. It still looks fairly close to the same distance to Galena via McAllen from Dallas/Austin/San Antonio taking 37 then 281 out of San Antonio.

[Quick-Silver]

I’m in Houston, planning on trucking my bike down to McAllen and leaving the truck at relatives and just riding the bike across. Looking for a 1-3 or ? persons to hook up with for at least the ride into Galeana and possibly for the whole trip there. I’ve got a friend that is considering going, but it could go either way. My relatives have room to store another truck or trailer if you’re wanting to do the same. It still looks fairly close to the same distance to Galena via McAllen from Dallas/Austin/San Antonio taking 37 then 281 out of San Antonio.
I am interested. I sent you a PM.
Thanks

[Dirtrideroader]

I am interested. This is one of the reasons I bought a Dual sport bike to begin with.

I have a couple of questions.

What is the minimum fuel range you would need to do this?

What is the limit to number of riders you can accommodate?

Thanks,

[Dirtrideroader]

I’m in Houston, planning on trucking my bike down to McAllen and leaving the truck at relatives and just riding the bike across. Looking for a 1-3 or ? persons to hook up with for at least the ride into Galeana and possibly for the whole trip there. I’ve got a friend that is considering going, but it could go either way. My relatives have room to store another truck or trailer if you’re wanting to do the same. It still looks fairly close to the same distance to Galena via McAllen from Dallas/Austin/San Antonio taking 37 then 281 out of San Antonio.

You say 1-3 people, does that mean you can carry 4 bikes?

[Richard_]

I am interested. This is one of the reasons I bought a Dual sport bike to begin with.

I have a couple of questions.

What is the minimum fuel range you would need to do this?

What is the limit to number of riders you can accommodate?

Thanks,


dirtrideroader,

I don't have the ride guide in front of me, but the shortest route is about 80 miles. The longest distance between fuel is about 100 miles.

Galeana has 2 hotels with 26 rooms each, so the limit on riders is going to be about 75-100.

[terlingua]

Richerd, can you get a room on line are do you just have to wate till you get there?
And what are the names of the motels?

[Richard_]

terlingua,

All the hotel information is in the ride guide, along with instructions for reserving a room. See page 7 of your ride guide.

[ed29]

Coming from DFW I am going to be looking for a spot to park a pickup and trailer on this side of the border, and take only the bike into Mexico. I know of one other rider whose bike will be on my trailer, and can squeeze another on too if that comes together.

I will have the whole week off from work, was wondering if anyone else was going down a couple of days early.

Best laid plans and all that..........

I may be having to do a software upgrade at work that week, and like my boss said.... sometimes the needs of the business over-ride vacation plans.

I am now a maybe instead of a definite. If I do get to go the price of gas has scuttled my plans to trailer to the border. It is worth the $200.00 plus savings in gas to take the KLR, or the $250.00+ savings if I ride the XR-250. Either way that is a lot of runnin' around money that could be spent on something other than gas.... Cuban dancers??? Cuban cigars??? Yup, worth taking the bike over the truck.;-)

[Richard_]

Ed,

I hope things work out so you can attend.

There just isn't any way to tell to what use that extra money could be put...

My experiences so far suggest that whatever it turns out to be is usually a fun addition to a ride report. :mrgreen: We can only hope the Cuban dancers are there again this year.

[mff]

Received my packet yesterday. Great Job on the ride guide. Looking forward to the ride.
MFF

[jinbody]

You say 1-3 people, does that mean you can carry 4 bikes?

I just have a long bed truck extended cab truck, so it would be my bike plus one. Renting a trailer would be an option if we got 4-6 people. A 1 week rate would probably be equal to a 5 day rate plus give us time to rig it up and get the bikes loaded up on it the weekend before. Others might just want to bring their own pickup down there as well, so the 1-3 person quote ( I guess with a trailer we could do up to 6) was just opening up possibilities about going together, or just meeting up at the border and going across as a group.

Richard- does your info packet talk about getting the bikes across? I believe technically you are supposed to have your lien holders permission if the bike is financed. I’m not sure if Mexico enforces this or how they can if you just need registration papers but not the title since the title is the only place this is recorded (that I know of). My bike is financed, through a credit union, and they said they’d write me up a letter giving permission but other lien holders might not be so willing if others bikes are also financed. Also do you have any recommendations for who to get a short term Mexican insurance policy through (also required I believe)?

[Richard_]

jinbody,

The ride guide covers the requirements for getting a vehicle (or vehicles) into Mexico.

Technically, you are supposed to have permission in the form of a notarized letter from the lien holder to take a vehicle into Mexico. I've not tried to take a car/truck into Mexico so I don't know firsthand if you will be asked for the letter when bringing in a car/truck. I've never even had the subject come up when bringing in a motorcycle. Perhaps the Mexicans are assuming a bike wouldn't be financed? Or maybe they aren't checking any vehicles? I just don't know. As a "better safe than sorry" measure if I had a lien against a vehicle I would get the letter and bring it with me.

I've used Adventure Mexico Insurance (http://www.mexadventure.com/) every time I've gone into Mexico and have been satisfied with them.

[bikeforever]

All signed up and made hotel reservations. Road down to the Creel event last year and had a blast. Road back with a couple of guys I meet down there one will be my roommate on this ride. Boring ride to the boarder but may ride the big duel sport don’t know if she will load on a trailer. Get away from the boarder towns and Mexico is a ride of a life time. Road though one little dirt road mountain town where the kids run in the street to give you a high five.
See Yal there, Ronnie
-
Thanks Richard for giving me another place to ride.
:rider:

[Richard_]

You're welcome, Ronnie. And I have to thank Milton Otto for clueing me in on that area.

I mailed your ride guide and maps yesterday so you should have them by the middle of next week, I think.

[skup]

I would like to go and would like some recommendations on bikes. I have a 1200GS but I am thinking of getting a KLR. I am a little concerned of riding a heavy bike on such a trip. Any one riding the larger BMW's?

[Richard_]

skup,

I don't know if anyone attending this year will be on larger BMWs or not. Last year two of us were on Wee-Stroms and one was on a V-Strom. There are several routes (class 1 and 2) that are completely suitable for larger adventure bikes like the GS, Strom, Tiger, etc assuming the rider has reasonable non-paved road riding experience/expertise.

The advantage smaller bikes like the KLR have over the bigger bikes is the smaller bikes can do any of the 12 recommended routes while the big bikes are best advised to skip the class 3 routes.

It all comes down to what you want to ride when you get there, how much you want to be challenged. If you want to ride the knarly, 30 river crossings, jeep/horse tracks through the mountains, the KLR is a better choice than the 1200GS. If you prefer milder, but still adventurous class 1/2 routes, either bike will get the job done just fine so pick the bike you like to ride the most.

[Chango]

Sure is quiet !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:zen:

[TerraXpeditions]

My ride report is complete My Mexican non-adventure adventure.. or something like that... - TWT Forums (http://www.twtex.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29776)

I didnt make it to the mountains Richard. I already have permission from the wife to go on this trip though. :lol2:

[Chango]

Thinking about a trip South of the border? Never been? Curious?

Watch : Treasure of The Sierra Madre !!!!!!!

No,No,NO, (well you can)

Gary rode all the way:http://www.burrohas3wheels.com

My Romanian - Gypsy fortune teller/palm reader agrees its good for my cabin fever.

[skup]

skup,

I don't know if anyone attending this year will be on larger BMWs or not. Last year two of us were on Wee-Stroms and one was on a V-Strom. There are several routes (class 1 and 2) that are completely suitable for larger adventure bikes like the GS, Strom, Tiger, etc assuming the rider has reasonable non-paved road riding experience/expertise.

The advantage smaller bikes like the KLR have over the bigger bikes is the smaller bikes can do any of the 12 recommended routes while the big bikes are best advised to skip the class 3 routes.

It all comes down to what you want to ride when you get there, how much you want to be challenged. If you want to ride the knarly, 30 river crossings, jeep/horse tracks through the mountains, the KLR is a better choice than the 1200GS. If you prefer milder, but still adventurous class 1/2 routes, either bike will get the job done just fine so pick the bike you like to ride the most.

Are the routes picked? If I took the GS would I have to seperate from the group when folks are going on the class 3 routes?

[Richard_]

Are the routes picked? If I took the GS would I have to seperate from the group when folks are going on the class 3 routes?

You pick the route you want to ride. All the routes are published in the ride guide so you know distance, difficulty, etc. in advance.

There will be a brief riders meeting each morning so riders that want to ride a particular route can team up and ride together. Let's say you want to do route 1. At the riders meeting everyone that wants to ride route 1 would get together and organize themselves. Same goes for route 2, route 3, etc.

[Richard_]

I didnt make it to the mountains Richard. I already have permission from the wife to go on this trip though. :lol2:

Excellent!

[Hood Ornament]

w00t! Just mailed in my registration.

[tricepilot]

I've just thrown my hat into the ring to add MexTrek to the tail-end of my trip (3rd) to the Copper Canyon region the week before (the Chabochis rally).

I'll be staying Wednesday through Sunday, and riding the R1200GSA. Taking lots and lots of photographs and writing a ride report.

FYI in January I'll be heading down the east coast via Veracruz, Tuxtla Gutierrez, Palenque and then over to the Mayan Riviera to Mahahual. That time of year for that area is much more comfortable in terms of heat and humidity. I've got two Compassion International kids that my wife and I sponsor, one just south of Veracruz, and one just north of Tuxtla G. The purpose of the trip is to spend a day each visiting those kids and their families where they live (Compassion always sends a rep along per policy) and then spend the rest of the time hitting a part of Mexico by bike (Chiapas and the Yucatan) that I haven't been to yet. Will rent some scuba gear in Mahahual and dive an afternoon or two.

Bob

[RICK M]

Richard ,
I mailed off a check for 70.00 and two forms today . Rick M and Big A are in and ready to go to Mexico . :rider:
thanks Rick .

[Richard_]

Richard ,
I mailed off a check for 70.00 and two forms today . Rick M and Big A are in and ready to go to Mexico . :rider:
thanks Rick .

Rick,

Good call. You guys are going to have a blast. Gonna ride the TransAlp?

[WoodButcher]

Rick,

Good call. You guys are going to have a blast. Gonna ride the TransAlp?

Yeah, that was my question too.

[RICK M]

Sure ,
I plan on riding the Transalp , I just sold my 2003 KLR because I like the Transalp better . I have money down on the new BMW 800 gs but if the Transalp keeps me happy ,I am 12,000 dollars better off .
Rick
Do you think its a bad idea to take to Mexico ? I will check it over with a fine tooth comb before I leave . Even have an extra cdi unit on the bike .

[Richard_]

Sure ,
I plan on riding the Transalp...Do you think its a bad idea to take to Mexico ?

I think it will be fine, but to be fair I've never ridden one. Just to be sure, let me borrow yours for a few weeks. I'll personally ride it all over the hill country to test out its capabilities. :trust:

Seriously though, I think it will be fine.

[WoodButcher]

Sure ,
I plan on riding the Transalp , I just sold my 2003 KLR because I like the Transalp better . I have money down on the new BMW 800 gs but if the Transalp keeps me happy ,I am 12,000 dollars better off .
Rick
Do you think its a bad idea to take to Mexico ? I will check it over with a fine tooth comb before I leave . Even have an extra cdi unit on the bike .

I keep trying to convince my wife (and to a certain extent, myself) to let me go. If I do, I'll be on the transalp. I have a spare cdi that I would carry too. Other than that I would just have normal spare type items, tubes, levers, some oil. Make sure your battery is topped off with water. I discovered mine was extremely low last week. The TA's have a tendency to overcharge (old connections get dirty). I'm going to check over all the electical connections soon when I check the valves. And hopefully borrow a carb sync tool and do that too.

[terlingua]

Looking for parking?

Me and right now one other maybe two others are look to go down some were on the boarder park our trucks and tralers some were safe for the week. What we are hoping to do is get down there the Saturday before and go acrouse on Sunday ride down the coast and were ever till wednesday. Then ride on over to Galeana check in. Can eney one tell me of a good place to park and tell of some good places to check out? And if some of ya'll might like to ride with us let me know.
Winer & new to dirt riding need not apply

[Richard_]

Looking for parking?

Me and right now one other maybe two others are look to go down some were on the boarder park our trucks and tralers some were safe for the week.

Check out the McAllen Airport economy parking.

I've spoken with the folks that run the parking lots for the McAllen airport & also with the Airport Police and I think the airport economy parking lot might be a good choice to secure a vehicle and/or trailer.

The economy parking lot is gated & lighted (and presumably monitored). $3 per day per parking spot (figure a truck & trailer combo will take 2 spots = $6 per day). 24/7 access.

[BIG A]

skup,i'm riding my 1200gs to mexico, so if you ride yours, you won't be the only one. :rider: i rode the worst roads during the junction trip, and didn't have any trouble, well except for one really slimey creek crossing:doh:

[tricepilot]

skup,i'm riding my 1200gs to mexico, so if you ride yours, you won't be the only one. :rider: i rode the worst roads during the junction trip, and didn't have any trouble, well except for one really slimey creek crossing:doh:

Fear not. There will be plenty of routes for the larger ADV/DS motos in the region. You'll have plenty of company also.

Plus, if you truly get stuck, which you won't, you simply camp and make coffee. :eat: It's that easy.

Bob
:chug:

[Pancho]

Hmmm, camp and make coffee! I like it!

[Chango]

I too might camp at least one night. Thinking back on last year we rode at amost two hours at night to make Rayones . The higher elevations felt like it was 40 degrees. This year i will have camping gear. :rider:




Hmmm, camp and make coffee! I like it!

[Dave Bell]

I have met the first goal, I bought a 2002 KLR with hardly a scratch, no visible or discernible faults, and less than 10,000 miles. I started on the gravel, dirt, loose sand, grass, and pavement this morning and have started ordering farkles. So far, tank bag (Wolfman Enduro) and crash bars. Thinking about a seat. I have a Rick Mayer on my BMW, so maybe that, a Russell, or a Sergent.

I'll be hoping to meet riders from the DFW area. The incentive I can offer is my place in Kaufman County has some off road and gravel/dirt roads in the area.

I sent for my packet. I'm in.

db

[skup]

Fear not. There will be plenty of routes for the larger ADV/DS motos in the region. You'll have plenty of company also.

Plus, if you truly get stuck, which you won't, you simply camp and make coffee. :eat: It's that easy.

Bob
:chug:

Sounds good. Looking forward to the trip. I was thinking of getting some off road tires for the trip. Any recommendations for the GS?

[Richard_]

I sent for my packet. I'm in.

db

Welcome, Dave!

[Richard_]

Sounds good. Looking forward to the trip. I was thinking of getting some off road tires for the trip. Any recommendations for the GS?

Continental TKC-80. Great 50/50 dual sport tire.

[BIG A]

ditto on the tkc-80 tire, i ran one on my gs in junction, works great!! not too noisey on pavement, and works real well in the dirt.

[mlstults]

Registration is in the mail. I'm getting to old to pass up this opportunity. Mexico has been on my mind for many years. I hope my Tourance tires will be sufficiant. I don't want to ride knobbies on my GS from Baytown to Galeana Mexico.

[Pancho]

Hey Martin,
Glad to see your signed up. The list is getting better by the moment. The Tourance should do well. I have used Anakees for much of the area. I will be trying a set of TK80's just for kicks. I do not have much experience with knobbies. Regards, Pancho (RGVHD-RE)

[skup]

I also just sent in my registartion!

[Dave Bell]

I will be riding knobbies on my new KLR, but I believe I'm going to take the couple of days before the start off from work. I'm my own boss, so I can do that. I will leave the DFW area Sat or Sun and go to Austin and spend the night with my sister, whom I have not seen for a while, then on down towards the border on Sun or Monday.

I figure 300 or less miles per day should make it pretty easy.

I would like to hook up with others before or at the border. Anyone interested? My plans are very flexible so I would change them to accommodate others as long as they aren't riding all the way to Galeana from DFW in one day.

[Chango]

"I don't want to ride knobbies on my GS from Baytown to Galeana Mexico."

Heard that !!! There are all kinds of surfaces for all kinds of bikes
down there. Just depends how gnarly you wanna get. There are scenic paved roads at altitude and scenic unpaved roads at 7000' with switchbacks:rider up the side combined with steep vertical climbs and no guardrails. Its gonna be fun !!! :rider:

Not too mention that eating place in Galeana with the delicious food and salsa!!!!!!!:eat: :eat: :eat: :trust:

[mlstults]

Hey Martin,
Glad to see your signed up. The list is getting better by the moment. The Tourance should do well. I have used Anakees for much of the area. I will be trying a set of TK80's just for kicks. I do not have much experience with knobbies. Regards, Pancho (RGVHD-RE)

Hey Pancho, didn't know that was you. They're a lot of Pancho's around McAllen. Maybe I can meet up with you around the border and ride from there.
Late amigo

[Richard_]

Not too mention that eating place in Galeana with the delicious food and salsa!!!!!!!:eat: :eat: :eat: :trust:

Mmmm, I had forgotten about that place. Thanks for the reminder.


I must have forgotten about it because of all the Caguama. :-P

[Pancho]

Plan on it!

[jinbody]

Richard- any jetting advise? I rode my Husky TE610 last year in Terlingua, probably up to 3-4 thousands feet max, with stock jetting with no problems. I've since got a JD jet kit, and wondered if I'll have to rejet at Galeana if planning on doing Mt. Potosi? Less power and running a bit rough I don't care about, but if it just flat out is going to die and not restart then I need to be prepared though I'd rather not do this in the hotel parking lot if not absolutely needed.

Also is cenote Pozo del Gavilán near Galeana? I thought it was but can't pinpoint an exact location onthe web and didn't see any of the routes in your guidebook (sweet as it is!) talk about it.

[Chango]

6731

[Pancho]

Pozo de Gavilan is just outside of town, easy to get directions from locals. Another photo op is Puente de Dios, just north of town on the road to Rayones.

[TerraXpeditions]

Since my trip down to the Galeana area was cut short... I am planning on trailering down for this trip.... I will in no way ride 1600 miles of interstate on my bike again.... :eek2:

Looking forward to this.

[Richard_]

Richard- any jetting advise? I rode my Husky TE610 last year in Terlingua, probably up to 3-4 thousands feet max, with stock jetting with no problems. I've since got a JD jet kit, and wondered if I'll have to rejet at Galeana if planning on doing Mt. Potosi? Less power and running a bit rough I don't care about, but if it just flat out is going to die and not restart then I need to be prepared though I'd rather not do this in the hotel parking lot if not absolutely needed.

I don't recall anyone mentioning jetting issues last year, even on the ride up to Mt. Potosi. My Wee is fuel injected so I didn't think to specifically ask about this, though.

[TerraXpeditions]

I don't recall anyone mentioning jetting issues last year, even on the ride up to Mt. Potosi. My Wee is fuel injected so I didn't think to specifically ask about this, though.

From the Mountain Recon thread, several folks said their bikes were feeling underpowered but they did not have any problems.

That being said, most bikes will be able to handle the altitude of riding up Cerro Potosi, unless there is something else wrong with the bike... But don't expect the best performance once riding upwards of 8000ft.

The rest of the ride is lower elevations, right? Therefore it wont be a problem at all.

I've been told that you do not want to change you jetting for a ride somewhere... to leave it at whatever you have it set for your home location. But, if you moved to Colorado from S. Padre Island you will for sure want to change your jetting.

[WoodButcher]

I've been told that you do not want to change you jetting for a ride somewhere... to leave it at whatever you have it set for your home location. But, if you moved to Colorado from S. Padre Island you will for sure want to change your jetting.


Depends on the bike and the altitude change amount. On my WR250 when I take it to Colorado and ride mostly above 8000ft I rejet. The engine is small enough that the power loss significant. In fact, it'll hardly run. On the Transalp it didn't seem to mind too much. Seemed to want to overheat more in the some sections though.

If I was doing a trip where I rode the bike and only occasionally went up in altitude I wouldn't rejet. So for this trip most people shouldn't even consider it.

Hey, why am I reading this thread? I'm not supposed to be tempting myself to go on this ride.

[Richard_]

Hey, why am I reading this thread? I'm not supposed to be tempting myself to go on this ride.

Yes, you are supposed to be tempting yourself. Don't you want to know how your transalp will handle the gold standard Mesa de Oso route?

[Chango]

Mesa de Oso !!!!:eek2: I saw a guy last month parafoiling off it.

My R80GS made the Oso route last year. Switchback city.

Richard, now you got me thinking. The Ural 2wd with plenty of luggage and
extra fuel space ? The Bultaco Alpina ? or maybe the old
R80GS stripped to the essentials and a backpack with one change of underwear and toolkit?

[RICK M]

Hey, why am I reading this thread? I'm not supposed to be tempting myself to go on this ride.

My Transalp needs some company on this ride . I dont want to be the only one in Mexico on such an awesome bike - Ha Ha
Rick M

[WoodButcher]

Well, I'm tempted. The other day my wife found the registration form on the printer and gave me a hard time about it. I have two problems. First is that I had told one of my brother-in-laws that I would do Moab with him around that time and I can only do one big trip like that in Oct. The other problem is convincing my wife that riding in Mexico is a good idea.

[RICK M]

Well, I'm tempted. The other day my wife found the registration form on the printer and gave me a hard time about it. I have two problems. First is that I had told one of my brother-in-laws that I would do Moab with him around that time and I can only do one big trip like that in Oct. The other problem is convincing my wife that riding in Mexico is a good idea.

My wife just took extra insurance out on me, She also said Mexico would not want me and would send me back after a week or so .
Rick M

[Chango]

Richard , will you be posting a list of riders that are going , like you did for the
Mtn. Recon. ?


Regards, Chango aka James

[Richard_]

Richard , will you be posting a list of riders that are going , like you did for the
Mtn. Recon. ?


Regards, Chango aka James

List started - anyone who wants their name included, post in this thread (http://www.twtex.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30376).

[Vinny]

Count me and my Wee Strom in. Leaving Austin a little early or staying a little late, cant drive that far and not enjoy it all.:trust:

[bobcat]

I haven't sent the registration fee yet, but I think I'm in for this shindig. :rider:

[Richard_]

I haven't sent the registration fee yet, but I think I'm in for this shindig. :rider:

Excellent. Are you going taking the Wee or the Sherpa?

[mlstults]

Got my packet tonight, Richard. First Class job on the book and maps.
Where did the maps come from anyway? They are better than the one I have.
Thanks,
Martin

[Chango]

Same here , The guide is chock full of info. Looks like i will leave a few days earlier and be in the general area .

[Richard_]

Martin,

2 of the maps in the packet are custom maps. I ordered the most current topographical maps from INEGI (the Mexican government organization that makes maps). 6 months later they finally arrived. Once I had them I had a map maker make a custom map of our riding area by combining 6 of the topo sheets. I then modified the map with Photoshop (added some roads, town names, etc). Finally, I divided that custom map into a north and south map.

It took me about a year to figure out what needed to be done, how to get the maps, and then how to customize them, but I think it was well worth the effort.

The 3rd map - the overview map - was downloaded from the web. I stumbled across it a couple of years ago.

[bobcat]

Excellent. Are you going taking the Wee or the Sherpa?

The Wee, and I'll be sticking to the class 1 roads probably. I'll be riding there from Austin, if anyone wants a riding partner on the way down.

[miltonotto]

Got my packet tonight
So where is MY packet?
Do I have to 1st prove that I have a bike that runs?
Ricardo?
Otto stirring.

[Richard_]

So where is MY packet?
Do I have to 1st prove that I have a bike that runs?
Ricardo?
Otto stirring.

Well, do you, in fact, have a bike that runs? How is the KLX? Tell the truth...:lol2: I saw a nice DR for sale on Craig's list awhile back...:-P


I've got your packet ready and need your t-shirt size. I called and left you a voice mail...and have been waiting on a return call...:ponder:


:duck:

[benpbdy]

Richard Will your wife bring her KLR 250?Will have my 250 and a 400.I did not know that she had the KLR250 Texas(Junction) ride until I got home.I would have rode with Y'all in Junction.Thanks,Ben

[Chango]

For those interesting in camping a night in the high country surrounding Galeana . I will have a 15 cup coffee perculator and coffee etc. :welcome:

[Richard_]

Richard Will your wife bring her KLR 250?Will have my 250 and a 400.I did not know that she had the KLR250 Texas(Junction) ride until I got home.I would have rode with Y'all in Junction.Thanks,Ben

Ben,

Unfortunately, my wife isn't going to attend MexTrek this year due to other commitments. I'm hoping she can participate next year.

[mlstults]

Martin,

2 of the maps in the packet are custom maps. I ordered the most current topographical maps from INEGI (the Mexican government organization that makes maps). 6 months later they finally arrived. Once I had them I had a map maker make a custom map of our riding area by combining 6 of the topo sheets. I then modified the map with Photoshop (added some roads, town names, etc). Finally, I divided that custom map into a north and south map.

It took me about a year to figure out what needed to be done, how to get the maps, and then how to customize them, but I think it was well worth the effort.

The 3rd map - the overview map - was downloaded from the web. I stumbled across it a couple of years ago.

OK, that sounds like a lot of work but the finished product is the Best.Thanks for you efforts.

[tricepilot]

For those interesting in camping a night in the high country surrounding Galeana . I will have a 15 cup coffee perculator and coffee etc. :welcome:


James

You are THE man. :clap:

How long is the extension cord for that perculator? :lol2:

Seriously, I may just pack my tent and join you. I have a small Tree Frog tent and the usual camping fixins. Pretty minimalist stuff, perfect for a moto trip. For coffee, I usually break out the JetBoil and the Aerobie press.

Anybody else? :chug:

Bob :coffee:

[Ixta]

Martin,

I ordered the most current topographical maps from INEGI (the Mexican government organization that makes maps). 6 months later they finally arrived. .


FYI: Good source for Mexican topos (quads as well as 1:250K's). Reasonable prices and shipping time as long as the maps are in stock. Their supply on the quads isn't as good as the 250's. Prices are reasonable.

http://omnimap.com/base/Catalog.html

Regards,

Joel.

[Vinny]

I'll be going down from Austin also. Probably stay longer. We should talk once it gets closer to see the dates you are able to go. I have been down there climbing a few times and know spanish ; that should help.

[Vinny]

For those interesting in camping a night in the high country surrounding Galeana . I will have a 15 cup coffee perculator and coffee etc. :welcome:

I'll be there and mixing camping w/ hotels. Coffee and camping , great mix.

[tricepilot]

I'll be there and mixing camping w/ hotels. Coffee and camping , great mix.

Vinny,

I like you already :chug:

Bob

[Chango]

Is anyone currently using a Garmin Rino GPS w/two way radio etc. ?

[gsxrmike]

Richard
I just mailed off my check,,,,,,
Got a brother in Austin and one in Midland, that will be riding down with me...
They will register soon, Looking forward to the ride,,,,,,,
See you in Mexico
Mike Williams

[ed29]

Richard, it looks like I am officially out. The upgrade at work is going to nix my vacation day. It is a shame since I have the KLR sorted out and now outfitted with some decent panniers for the trip.

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd52/edhegarty/DirtBikes/IMG_1138.jpg

The old top box is now mounted longitudinally to clear the pannier lids. It is ready for a trip somewhere.

Mexico will be there another week.

[Quick-Silver]

Richard, it looks like I am officially out.
Mexico will be there another week.

Ed, Sorry you can't make it. I was hoping we could ride down together. The big Beamers go way too fast for me.:lol2: Maybe next time.

Did you go with the Baja and Bavaria panniers? They sure make for a nice looking rig. Beats baskets all to heck.:)

[ed29]

Thanks Jerry, they are the Bavaria (large) version. Found a set used but virtually unscratched on another forum for half the cost of new. Could not pass that up!

[Richard_]

Ed,

Sorry you won't be able to make it. Next time...

[Outlaw6Guy]

Anyone want to meet in Laredo on the 21st,spend the night,then caravan down to Galena on the 22nd? I'm taking the 525 EX/C and my truck,all the way to the hotel. I'm thinking a caravan to Galena,maybe two or three vehicles, would be a safer deal than driving alone?

[BIG A]

we are leaving our truck and trailer in laredo and riding down, but going with a few other people going in the same direction would be good

[Jerry]

Google Earth and Google Maps have recently updated the region. The whole area now is in high resolution. Ya'll go check it out!

[txdiamond17]

I would love to do this ride, but I am nervous about the crossing and first few miles into Mexico. I have heard nothing but bad news out of Laredo for some time now. Is McAllen any safer? It would suck big time to have problems on such a trip. Tell me if I am being a little sissy. If I go I would surely like to cross with as many people as I could gather up.

[tricepilot]

I would love to do this ride, but I am nervous about the crossing and first few miles into Mexico. I have heard nothing but bad news out of Laredo for some time now. Is McAllen any safer? It would suck big time to have problems on such a trip. Tell me if I am being a little sissy. If I go I would surely like to cross with as many people as I could gather up.

No, you're not being a sissy.

Many people who have not been to Mexico - by that I mean crossing the border on a motorcycle, not flying to Cancun - have a rational concern of the unknown.

Definitely hook up with someone going across and who can prep you with the border crossing paperwork. You'll feel comfortable and you'll get to know the process. In the future you'll lead others across.

Border towns are OK places during the day by yourself, and OK at night in groups. But they, like the resort towns, are not really "Mexico". By that I mean, generally, places you can really concentrate more on the scenery and the food and the roads and less on who is walking behind you - like any U.S. city these days.

Make sure you have all the required paperwork in order, your bike prepped, wear your gear, and finds some friends to ride with. And bring your camera. In no time you'll be telling your neighbors who would never ride a bike to Mexico what they're missing.

Bob

[Richard_]

If I go I would surely like to cross with as many people as I could gather up.

Good point. I have an idea for facilitating riders linking up and traveling to Galeana. I've started a thread for riders who want to link up with others to ride down to Galeana. Reply to that thread, let me know what group you want to be in and I'll add you to the list.

Here's the link: Let's Ride to Galeana together (http://www.twtex.com/forums/showthread.php?p=460332#post460332)

[Richard_]

txdiamond17,

I think getting through a border town like Laredo safely is not really any different than traveling through a town like Houston, Dallas, or Austin. Observe the same safety rules you would when going through a town like Houston. Ride through in the daytime and stick to the main roads. Thousands of people do it every day with little to no trouble reported. It's those who are involved with drugs that tend to be involved in the stuff that makes the headlines.

A smaller crossing, like Columbia (northwest of Laredo about 30 miles), will be much less dense, traffic wise and can be a good choice for the first time rider to Mexico.

[txdiamond17]

Thanks for the tips guys. If I can get off of work and go, I will surely post on the groups and hook up with some others to get there.

[Vinny]

Does anyone knoe the differences between Jardin & Magdalena hotel ?

Jardin is $30 p/p and Magdalena is $18 p/p .
There are 12 rooms left at Jardin.

I dont mind paying a little extra for a better hotel. But, if they are similar any savings will count.

Thanks for any info from people that have been there before.

[Richard_]

Does anyone knoe the differences between Jardin & Magdalena hotel ?

Jardin is $30 p/p and Magdalena is $18 p/p .
There are 12 rooms left at Jardin.

I dont mind paying a little extra for a better hotel. But, if they are similar any savings will count.

Thanks for any info from people that have been there before.


They are about the same in terms of comfort, design, etc. I stayed in Jardin last year, but got a brief tour of Magdalena. The rooms in Magdelana looked pretty much the same as the room I had at Jardin.

Prices at Jardin have gone up. I think I paid $24 last year for a room for 2.

As an FYI, Magdelana and Jardin are both on the plaza, about 30 yards from each other, so both are centrally located.

[skup]

I sent my registration today. Which days do we need hotels? And is the info for the hotels in the registration package?

[Richard_]

I sent my registration today. Which days do we need hotels? And is the info for the hotels in the registration package?

MexTrek runs Wed evening through Sat morning. You will need a room Wed night, Oct 22 - Fri night, Oct 24 unless you are planning on coming early or staying extra days.

All the hotel info is in the registration package. I tried to include everything related to logistics in the ride guide.

[Vinny]

They are about the same in terms of comfort, design, etc. I stayed in Jardin last year, but got a brief tour of Magdalena. The rooms in Magdelana looked pretty much the same as the room I had at Jardin.

Prices at Jardin have gone up. I think I paid $24 last year for a room for 2.

As an FYI, Magdelana and Jardin are both on the plaza, about 30 yards from each other, so both are centrally located.

It was kind of weird when I asked the guy at the Jardin how much it was (in spanish) he said 280 pesos, then found out the dates and said that was going to be 300 pesos. Cant blame him I guess, its supply and demand.

[Chango]

Galeana for the curious. The hotels are actually on the Plaza . Kinda unique.
I hope theres some entertainment this year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSKJgi5PkT4&feature=related

[tricepilot]

I hope theres some entertainment this year.



Of course you mean en el centro/la plaza. But we'll have a hilarious bunch of riding compañeros to compensate if there's nothing going on center stage.

Bob

[TerraXpeditions]

I'm still not 100% sure if I'm going to be able to go or not. I'll be starting an internship at the end of this month and wont know my schedule for a while...

Looking forward and hoping to go on this trip.

[Chango]

Whoa, its getting closer to the trip and I am still upgrading my rig.
New battery , Panniers, luggage rack , spare tire, tools, Jerry cans,
,driving lights,new handlebars w/German controls. Need to fabricate
and install new swingarm bushings.

[TerraXpeditions]

Whoa, its getting closer to the trip and I am still upgrading my rig.
New battery , Panniers, luggage rack , spare tire, tools, Jerry cans,
,driving lights,new handlebars w/German controls. Need to fabricate
and install new swingarm bushings.

Umm, just ride? :trust:

[Chango]

:popcorn:

[big doc]

been lurking around this site for awhile, but this trip has indeed caught my interest. i have been trying for the past two years to make a copper canyon trip (the guided tour variety) but could not make the dates match and hoped to do it more economically. this seems much more do-able right now and would get started down into mexico.

i've rode dirt bikes a lot as a kid on gravel roads and around the farm (should've killed myself long ago when i didn't know better) - then got away from them for a while. started riding street bikes again several years ago and could not stay away from the off roads. currently ride a gasgas 450fse, but don't have many places around here to ride other than around the farm and over to the local state lake / park area that has an off road area.

my question is if the 450fse would be very suitable to a ride like this - it is street legal but not designed much for paved roads. my wife rides a crf230 (also street legal) but we obviously ride only on the pavement to get to the dirt. i've been looking at a local xr650r that i would love to have for longer excursions but have not pulled the trigger yet (trying not to go look at it because i know what happens when you keep looking).

anyway, back to the question of the 450fse's suitability to this trip - what do you think about it from those that have seen the terrain and the roads available? looking for some excellent scenery and an enjoyable trip both on and off the pavement - but not looking for highly technical off-road riding at all.

thanks. dave.

[Richard_]

big doc,

I don't know anything about the gasgas 450 model that you ride, so I'll have to just make some general remarks.

The riding around Galeana is very suitable for smaller bikes. There are a wide variety of dirt roads to choose from, ranging from class 1 to class 3 (I rate non-paved roads on a 1-4 system (http://www.texasadventure.net/Motorcycle%20Non-Paved%20Road%20Rating%20System.htm)). Any of these roads are fine (and some preferable) for smaller bikes. The roads really aren't appropriate for high/fast speeds and, even if you have the skill to ride non-paved roads really fast, it is not advisable to do so due to the obstacles often encountered on the roads (donkeys & other animals, slow moving vehicles, etc).

The majority of the recommended routes include some paved road riding. There is some pavement on every route, but it is as limited as I could make it. The paved roads tend to be twisty so high speeds aren't recommended for them either. If you & your bike can run highway speeds for maybe 50 miles or so then it will be fine for that part of any of the recommended routes.

As a point of comparison, my wife had planned on attending this year on her Kawasaki Super Sherpa 250 (equivalent to your wife's Honda). I told her that bike would be fine for this trip.

Finally, the ride guide includes 12 recommended routes, ranging from easy class 1 to difficult class 3. There are no off-road sections on any of the recommended routes. Every route consists of roads, paved and non-paved, but roads none-the-less. The class 1 and 2 routes are spectacular. The class 3 routes are equally wonderful, just a degree of difficulty higher. Pick a route that meets your desires/skills/bike - somebody will want to ride it with you.

[Vinny]

Does anyone knoe the differences between Jardin & Magdalena hotel ?

Jardin is $30 p/p and Magdalena is $18 p/p .
There are 12 rooms left at Jardin.

I dont mind paying a little extra for a better hotel. But, if they are similar any savings will count.

Thanks for any info from people that have been there before.

Well, I aquired a room at Magdalena hotel for 22-25 for 180 pesos a night. They said they had parking for the bike also.

[Chango]

I stayed at Magdalena last year and will do so again this year.

[skup]

How was parking at these hotels last year. Any concerns of leaving bikes outside?

[Chango]

Parking was excellent . Everyone just parked in the park. The hotels are physically on the plaza/park. Its a unique set up. If you look at last years
Mountain recon photos you'll see the bikes lined up in front of the hotel Jardin.

[CeeBee]

been lurking around this site for awhile, but this trip has indeed caught my interest. i have been trying for the past two years to make a copper canyon trip (the guided tour variety) but could not make the dates match and hoped to do it more economically. this seems much more do-able right now and would get started down into mexico.

i've rode dirt bikes a lot as a kid on gravel roads and around the farm (should've killed myself long ago when i didn't know better) - then got away from them for a while. started riding street bikes again several years ago and could not stay away from the off roads. currently ride a gasgas 450fse, but don't have many places around here to ride other than around the farm and over to the local state lake / park area that has an off road area.

my question is if the 450fse would be very suitable to a ride like this - it is street legal but not designed much for paved roads. my wife rides a crf230 (also street legal) but we obviously ride only on the pavement to get to the dirt. i've been looking at a local xr650r that i would love to have for longer excursions but have not pulled the trigger yet (trying not to go look at it because i know what happens when you keep looking).

anyway, back to the question of the 450fse's suitability to this trip - what do you think about it from those that have seen the terrain and the roads available? looking for some excellent scenery and an enjoyable trip both on and off the pavement - but not looking for highly technical off-road riding at all.

thanks. dave.

Hello Dave,
Welcome to the dirty side of the forum. :clap:
I have a WR450 and a XR650R and have taken them to Copper Canyon and Galeana at different times. The 450 I use as a base camp bike and the 650 for long hauls, normally. Trucked the 450 to Galeana last year and it was a great choice but wouldn't if I had the drone of the slab to get there. You should have all the D/S stuff on your bike (which you probably already know).
like Radiator guards, fan, skid plate, saddle bags etc.
Will probably do both rides again this year but no solid plans yet. If I can help give me a call at 713-204-0120 :rider:

[Richard_]

How was parking at these hotels last year. Any concerns of leaving bikes outside?

We didn't have any issues last year with anyone tampering with the bikes. Still, I recommend bringing and using a disk lock / cable lock / etc.

[tricepilot]

We didn't have any issues last year with anyone tampering with the bikes. Still, I recommend bringing and using a disk lock / cable lock / etc.

Bike Protection in Mexico - a good question.

You probably won't need to be overly concerned in Mexico, but I'd be paranoid in the U.S.

In all of my trips to Mexico, I've never had an incident with anyone tampering with my bike or that of anyone I've traveled with. I usually park in a courtyard when I can. But even when I can't, nobody has messed with the bike.

My best tip no matter where you go - bring all the cables, locks, sentries, and claymore mines you wish - but the cheapest and most effective way to protect your motorcycle is a cover.

I always cover the bike. And I use one of those really loud, and hidden, bike cover sirens. They tuck into a pocket on most motorcycle covers made today. My alarm - very loud and annoying - is safetied with a pin attached to a lanyard which itself is attached under the bike. Tamper with the cover, the pin gets pulled, the alarm goes off.

Very cheap and very effective. The nasty noise will send anyone running and wake anyone up in the hotel next door.

But forget the alarm - the main idea is that the bike is covered from sight - others won't know if its a hand-me-down or a modern, expensive machine. It will be harder to sit on, harder to covet, and you'll have no problem with people messing with your farkles and/or poking in your bags.

And remember - there's a market for stolen motorcycles and parts in the U.S., not so much in Mexico. I do the full Monty of bike protection in the U.S.

So even if you don't want to bring a cover or any other type of bike protection - Mexico is a place I'd rather park a motorcycle than almost anywhere in the U.S.

Not too much to worry about.

Bob

[Dave Bell]

If anyone is interested, here is what I've been doing to get the bike ready. I bought it about three weeks ago. I sure do like it.

http://peteyadventure.blogspot.com/

The posts are in the wrong order, the oldest is last and the newest is first. Can't figure out how to put the new ones on the bottom.....

db

[Chango]

Good post and pics with the upgrades/modifications. Nice panniers !!!!

I too am swamped with getting my rig ready.


See you in Mexico . regards, James

If anyone is interested, here is what I've been doing to get the bike ready. I bought it about three weeks ago. I sure do like it.

http://peteyadventure.blogspot.com/

The posts are in the wrong order, the oldest is last and the newest is first. Can't figure out how to put the new ones on the bottom.....

db

[Dave Bell]

I have a concern regarding my room reservation. I believe that I made it, but there was a part of the conversation that I did not understand. Later, someone posted that they wire transfered money. I did not wire transfer any money and did not understand that I was supposed to. I understand that they don't take credit cards and that all one had to do was give them name and dates and they would hold the room.

Do I need to do something else?

I know some Spanish speakers and am thinking about having someone call for me. What do you guys think?

db

[Pancho]

I recently reserved a room at Jardin. I speak decent Spanish. I was asked if I was with the motocyclistas, but was not aked for any sort of deposit. I don't expect much. I have stayed at both hotels before. With 42 registrants, space will be at a premium.. Things are likely to change once people start arriving. The best thing is that the event is scheduled mid week and the area is a dual sport paradise. Downside it is Mexico....not much else is certain.

Pancho,
Asi es!

[Richard_]

Dave,

Admittedly, their reservation process is different than what we are used to in the states. Last year, prior to arriving, I had concerns as to whether their reservation process really worked. They told me we had reservations, but no money changed hands until we got there, no wire transfers were sent, etc. Their process did work and all of us had rooms when we arrived.

If you want to be completely at ease, you might call them and arrange a wire transfer. I'm being optimistic and figuring that a phone call will work again this year and that all that need be done is to call and make a verbal reservation with them.

[Dave Bell]

OK I feel better, probably just having a paranoid episode. My Spanish is improving but pretty poor. I just wanted to be sure that the normal procedure wasn't to wire money. I did not think it was, just wanted to be sure.

db

[Richard_]

Here's the t-shirt design for this year. Thanks to Mrs. Dirtbike Dave (Demra) for all the work she put in to designing this logo. I think she did a great job.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c178/rgibbens/MexTrek%202008/Armadillownewv2.jpg

[Dave Bell]

Way cool. How do I get one?

db

[Richard_]

Way cool. How do I get one?

db

All registered riders will receive a t-shirt. I'm carrying/sending all the t-shirts to Galeana and will give them out there. That logo will be on the back of the shirt.

[Vinny]

I recently reserved a room at Jardin. I speak decent Spanish. I was asked if I was with the motocyclistas, but was not aked for any sort of deposit. I don't expect much. I have stayed at both hotels before. With 42 registrants, space will be at a premium.. Things are likely to change once people start arriving. The best thing is that the event is scheduled mid week and the area is a dual sport paradise. Downside it is Mexico....not much else is certain.

Pancho,
Asi es!

I was told to send some money thru a complicated system to "El Jardin" when I spoke w/ them a couple of weeks ago. Decided to get a room at the competing hotel in the square instead. They just took my recervation over the phone w/o a deposit being needed.

[Chango]

I will be staying at the Magdalena .

The chips and salsa, smell of the food, (bistek encebollado),Fajitas, Tortillas,
Cold beverages... Did i mention the Salsa?

[tricepilot]

Cold beverages... Did i mention the Salsa?

***FAIR WARNING***

James and I might be found debating the application of various spanish verb tenses in Galeana after a good day's ride.

***FAIR WARNING***

:chug:

Bob

[WEBFOOT]

Hi Richard.....Registered, got my maps and ride guide nice job. put me on the list.
Got a question for you. It seems that everyones route to Galeana is to the west side of Monterey. am I missing something? If comming from San Antonio to McAllen, then to China, Montemorelos, Linares, Galeana. is this not a good route for some reason?

Thanks Don

[Richard_]

Got a question for you. It seems that everyones route to Galeana is to the west side of Monterey. am I missing something? If comming from San Antonio to McAllen, then to China, Montemorelos, Linares, Galeana. is this not a good route for some reason?

Thanks Don

Don,

The route you are taking is the same as I'm taking.

For those crossing at Laredo, routing west of Monterrey is the fastest route.

For those crossing at McAllen, I think the China - Montemorelos route is fastest (though I'm going Montemorelos - Rayones - Galena).

[Chango]

Cabin fever settin in as i read " Down That Pan American Highway"
by roger Stephens in 1948. 3,321 miles - 32 days - he spent $140.14 .
Its Original print . got it off ebay. I always like to see some of the old
PAH when S. of the border.

[Vinny]

Cabin fever settin in as i read " Down That Pan American Highway"
by roger Stephens in 1948. 3,321 miles - 32 days - he spent $140.14 .
Its Original print . got it off ebay. I always like to see some of the old
PAH when S. of the border.

Hey Chango:
Bring it w/ you to Galeana. we'll do nightly readings :trust:
I dont know how many of those books I have in my house. Sure do enjoy the feeling of getting away that those adventure books give.
Anyway, enjoy.

[verhalen]

Coming from DFW I am going to be looking for a spot to park a pickup and trailer on this side of the border, and take only the bike into Mexico. I know of one other rider whose bike will be on my trailer, and can squeeze another on too if that comes together.

I will have the whole week off from work, was wondering if anyone else was going down a couple of days early.



Any one wanting to leave cars, trucks or trailers on my ranch is welcome to. I live in Verhalen which is about 20 miles south of Pecos and 15 miles north of Balmorhea. My place is just off highway 17. and in between I 10 and I 20. If you want to call the number is 432.375.0135. This also rings at my office so if Mary answers just tell her what is going on. She will tell you how to get to the ranch and let me know you are coming.

to those of you with GPS put in 204 FM3334 town Balmorhea. Verhalen really isnt a town just a wide spot in the road.

Best Regards to you all. And be careful down south.

[TerraXpeditions]

Cabin fever settin in as i read " Down That Pan American Highway"
by roger Stephens in 1948. 3,321 miles - 32 days - he spent $140.14 .
Its Original print . got it off ebay. I always like to see some of the old
PAH when S. of the border.

A professor of mine has done a lot of research on the Pan-Am Hwy and as a project, had us take portions of it and set it up a presentation board as if we were doing a road trip.

My professor did the bus trip to Panama over 6 months in '94 and '95 and spent about $1000. He was in Chiapas, MX 1 day before the Zapatistas' uprising. He said there was incredible tension in the air, but nothing negative towards him.

I've considered doing a Pan-Am trip, but not on the XRL

[Chango]

Update on obtaining paperwork. I went to the Mexican Consulate in Houston today. Got my Vehicular Permit. However , They said they do not
issue the " Tourist visas " there anymore. They said get it at the border.
Makes sense as one would have to stop at the border and get it validated
anyway.

[stingray]

Wahoo, just got my childcare issue resolved so I'll be going on the trip.

Registration sent. Can't wait!!!!!

[Chango]

" Hey Chango:
Bring it w/ you to Galeana. we'll do nightly readings "


I'll bring it.

[jredford]

Looking forward to the trip. Five of us from Houston are going JR, Jim Green, Delores, Klaus and Jim Knight.

Richard has done an outstanding job on the book and maps. The gps maps are awesome on my Zumo 550. I also would recommend the Bicimaps Mexico mapset.
:clap:

[Dirtrideroader]

Richard has done an outstanding job on the book and maps. The gps maps are awesome on my Zumo 550. I also would recommend the Bicimaps Mexico mapset.
:clap:

I hate to sound ignorant, but sometimes I can't help it. Where did you get the GPS maps? Were they posted in this thread and I missed them or were they included in the registration package?

[Richard_]

Chris,

I've mapped out all 12 routes in .gpx format and have made them available to all registered riders. The URL where you can download them is in the maps section of the ride guide.

If you don't already have one, you will need to buy a Mexico map for your GPS. Garmin (assuming you use a Garmin) doesn't sell a good map of Mexico and their City Navigator North America shows very few of the roads in Mexico. I recommend the Mexico GPS Atlas from BiciMapas (http://www.bicimapas.com.mx/English.htm) - it shows most of the roads, includes topo lines, and it autoroutes.

[Dirtrideroader]

Thanks. I must have missed that when looking at the package.

[jredford]

Update on obtaining paperwork. I went to the Mexican Consulate in Houston today. Got my Vehicular Permit. However , They said they do not
issue the " Tourist visas " there anymore. They said get it at the border.
Makes sense as one would have to stop at the border and get it validated
anyway.

Chango:

What did you bring with you to the Mexican Consulate to get the vehicle permit?

Thanks

Jr

[Chango]

Chango:

What did you bring with you to the Mexican Consulate to get the vehicle permit?

Thanks

Jr

I brought my title , passport , and a photo copy of each one .
And of course they ask for a credit card.

[thumper]

Hey guys, I'm bowing out "this year". Brenda and I are getting married after 15 years.:eek2: So I'll be busy. Looking forward to the reports. Be Safe and Smart!:clap:

[tricepilot]

http://tricepilot.smugmug.com/photos/368009387_FaRz3-XL.jpg

[Dirtrideroader]

I brought my title , passport , and a photo copy of each one .
And of course they ask for a credit card.

If you get your permit here, do you need to carry your title with you to the border?

[tricepilot]

If you get your permit here, do you need to carry your title with you to the border?

Answer: No

Optional Reading:

If you obtain your vehicle permit at a consulate, the only remaining piece will be the Tourist Visa, which you will obtain at the Aduana (customs) office at the border.

You will not be required to carry your vehicle title, in fact it is not a good idea. It will not be needed nor asked for, and it will be just one more key document to keep track of.

If you obtain your vehicle permit at the Aduana, you in fact do not need a vehicle title, just the original vehicle registration which must match the name of the operator AND the name on the credit card you wish to use. If you are "Richard Johnson" on one document but "Rich Johnson" on the other, that won't cut it so get that addressed now.

On vehicle titles used to obtain vehicle permits, I always highlite the VIN number and my name, and I sign the registration in blue ink somewhere in an open space. Sounds wierd, I know, but border officials can be officious and they also like to find what they're looking for fast.

Don't forget to bring your passport for your tourist visa, or a raised seal birth certificate (not a certificate of birth - they're not the same thing, and the latter won't work for you).

Bonus Tip: Call your credit card provider the week before the trip, and put a travel alert on your card. Depending upon the bank, you may run into a hold on the card if you fail to notify them in advance. Dealing with that even in a border town will be frustrating and you'll be calling the bank while everybody else is processing though. If you have two credit cards, bring a second one as a spare and hide it on your bike.

I've seen vehicle titles signed over from one rider to the next at border crossings to facilitate entry but that's another subject entirely and you won't even approach that complicity.

Just bring your drivers license, your registration and a credit card with the same name on each and you'll fly through Aduana.

Bob

[jinbody]

Can anyone explain more on what "original registration" means? I have the registration receipt I got from my country tax office when renewing the plates, which has the license plate number, vin, owner name, etc. but I've gone through the paperwork I received from the dealer when I bought my bike and don't see an "original"one. Far as I remember, I paid the dealer a few extra bucks (they all usually try and charge this) and the permanent plates came in the mail a month or so later. I don't remember any other paperwork with them, but maybe there was. Will the renewal registration that you peel the registration sticker off work? if not, any idea how I can get a certified copy of the original?

[Richard_]

jinbody,

The most current registration receipt is what I've used the previous 4 times I've entered Mexico. I've used it with no problems.

[kennyanc]

Will the renewal registration that you peel the registration sticker off work?

That's all I've ever used.

We don't have a MX consulate in Asheville, NC so I've always done mine at the border. I've always taken my title and registration but have only been asked for the registration. I've have heard some say they were asked for the title. I will take mine again next time.

As Bob mentioned earlier: Passport, CC in your name, registration.
All names must match. A friend from KC and I tried to cross in Presidio last October. His CC said Richard but his registration said Dick. Took him 2 hours to get it settled. Had to run back and forth between offices and sign an affidavit saying that Dick and Richard were the same name.

And another note: It is not required but I wouldn't even think of crossing the border without Mexican Insurance. US insurance is no good south of the border. If you are involved in an accident without insurance, you will go to jail until they sort out who is at fault.



Kenny

[Wasabi]

I just called the hotels in Galeana to make room reservations. The Jardin have no rooms available and the Magdalena wants $180 per night. My caller who speaks very good spanish confirmed the $180. We spoke to Niomi at the hotel. I liitle price increase is OK but this is too much.:giveup:

I Googled the town but did not find any other hotels listed in Galeana.

Does anyone know of any more hotels in Galeana or can suggest a town near by where I might find a room ?

Bill

[Richard_]

Bill,

I just called Hotel Magdelana and made a reservation for you. I didn't ask the name of the gal who I made the reservation with, but I told her I needed 3 nights (from Oct 22 - Oct 25) and my name was Bill. She made the reservation and told me it is $180 pesos per night (about $18 dollars per night).

You might call and verify, especially if you have a preference for a single or a double (I didn't specify to the woman I spoke with).

[Chango]

For one room , one person a night?

Do you think it was $180Mx Pesos ..... approx. $17.00 usd. ?


$180.00 usd. will get you the Sheraton Crown in Monterrey. with breakfast , and a steak and wine dinner across the street.

[Chango]

Richard , we must have been typing at the same time.

:clap:

For one room , one person a night?

Do you think it was $180Mx Pesos ..... approx. $17.00 usd. ?


$180.00 usd. will get you the Sheraton Crown in Monterrey. with breakfast , and a steak and wine dinner across the street.

[Pancho]

I just called the hotels in Galeana to make room reservations. The Jardin have no rooms available and the Magdalena wants $180 per night. My caller who speaks very good spanish confirmed the $180. We spoke to Niomi at the hotel. I liitle price increase is OK but this is too much.:giveup:

I Googled the town but did not find any other hotels listed in Galeana.

Does anyone know of any more hotels in Galeana or can suggest a town near by where I might find a room ?

Bill

It is not easy to find rooms priced as low as the Magdalena. However there are less expensive rooms available in Iturbide. Small Inn just off the main plaza.

Suerte,
Pancho

[terlingua]

I got a room for two yestday. I call the cheeper one frist but it was bussy. So I just call the other one and a very young sounding girl took my name and said we see you thin. I didn't ask how much with evey one saying it was about $30 in USD.

[Wasabi]

Bill,

I just called Hotel Magdelana and made a reservation for you. I didn't ask the name of the gal who I made the reservation with, but I told her I needed 3 nights (from Oct 22 - Oct 25) and my name was Bill. She made the reservation and told me it is $180 pesos per night (about $18 dollars per night).

You might call and verify, especially if you have a preference for a single or a double (I didn't specify to the woman I spoke with).

Thanks Richard. I just spoke with my friend who called for me and we agreed that there had to have been a misunderstanding with the person we spoke to at the hotel. I will call tomorrow to confirm the reservation.

Thanks again , sorry for the the miss info.

Bill

[Richard_]

It is not easy to find rooms priced as low as the Magdalena. However there are less expensive rooms available in Iturbide. Small Inn just off the main plaza.

Suerte,
Pancho

Pancho,

That's good info. Do you happen to have a name & phone number for that inn in Inturbide?

[tricepilot]

Can anyone explain more on what "original registration" means?

That's all I've ever used.

Kenny

You are good to go with your renewal registration document

Sorry for the confusion - I should have been more accurate. What I was driving at was orignal vs copy, so your original registration renewal (which is what most people use unless its basically a newly registered bike) is completely fine.

The registration document [or registration renewal paper] key information is your name, vehicle type, and VIN. Not mandatory but I always highlite these items, and sign it somewhere in a blank space in blue (contrasting) ink. Again, this is optional but it seems to help the official locate what they're looking for.

A copy of your renewal registration won't have the sticker portion on the bottom, if you've left that attached, and if you've detached it, a copy will be 8 1/2 x 11, unless you've trimmed the copy. The point is, don't allow any suspicion to crop into the mind of the official that you are handing him/her a copy of this important document. Make a copy, but keep it elsewhere when processing at aduana.

You asked a good question and better to deal with it now than at the border. If you have any other questions keep posting them up. We've all had them and had to learn. Soon you'll be helping others to fly through aduana and reach the promised land - beautiful Mexico.

Bob

[tricepilot]

With simple due diligence vis a vis documentation, you'll be rewarded with this, your motorcycle import sticker:

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/222438835_iTyEJ-L.jpg

You can place it on your windshield or just keep it handy along with its associated document given to you at the aduana:

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/222441363_nZvNG-XL.jpg

Here is a tip regarding the latter piece of paper. See the key with all the red arrows pointing at it? That's your VIN number as typed onto the document by the aduana official.

While standing at the window, repeat, while standing at the window, check the VIN, then check it again. Then check all the other "key" information such as spelling. Then, and only then, you are finished and should give up your place in line. If the VIN, for example, is just one digit incorrect, insist that it be corrected.

If it were me, I'd go out into your garage tonight and make sure the VIN on your registration matches the VIN on the bike exactly. If it is off by even one digit, get it corrected now at DMV. You still have time.

Store this document, along with your tourist visa, in a handy spot on your bike, because you will have to produce it once you reach the inland checkpoint (usually about 20 miles down the road).

Bob

[Richard_]

I'm hosting a tech day at my house on Saturday, Sep 27th for anyone who wants to attend.

http://twtex.com/forums/showthread.php?p=482668#post482668

[RacerJohn]

Hey Rich,
Cool!~ I may come by on the 27th. I hope to have some farkles to stick on my KLR, in prep for the trip... Last wknd a friend of mine bought an older XR600. The seller has some panniers to sell...so I may buy 'em (just have not seen them yet)... I am hoping to go on the trip, but not 100% sure yet...
~~John

[Richard_]

Hey Rich,
Cool!~ I may come by on the 27th. I hope to have some farkles to stick on my KLR, in prep for the trip... Last wknd a friend of mine bought an older XR600. The seller has some panniers to sell...so I may buy 'em (just have not seen them yet)... I am hoping to go on the trip, but not 100% sure yet...
~~John

John,

It's wise of you to have the bike ready in case you are able to attend. Might as well do your doohickey too, if you come over. You can get a doohickey from Eagle Mike at 619-261-1281.

[gsxrmike]

Hey Richard
Me and my 2 brothers have not made reservations to a motel yet,,,,
How do we go about doing this,,, We will be down there from 19th to the 24th
Thats 3 single bed rooms, Mike , Bob, and Charles,,,, Williams
Mike

[LakeRat]

I will be coming from the Chabochis Rally in Creel.
Is there any body else going to CC?
My 650r is almost ready, not shure what tires to run, don't think the 606
w/ last all the way, keep in mind the slab back to Presidio area to get my truck.
Maybe TKCs or 908s.
I will live from Dallas.
Astor

[Richard_]

Hey Richard
Me and my 2 brothers have not made reservations to a motel yet,,,,
How do we go about doing this,,, We will be down there from 19th to the 24th
Thats 3 single bed rooms, Mike , Bob, and Charles,,,, Williams
Mike

Galeana has 2 hotels. I believe Hotel Jardin is now full, so call the Hotel Magdelana and make reservations. Hotel information, hotel phone numbers, and reservation instructions are in the ride guide on page 7.

[gsxrmike]

How could I have missed that page:eek2: ...
Thanks
Mike

Galeana has 2 hotels. I believe Hotel Jardin is now full, so call the Hotel Magdelana and make reservations. Hotel information, hotel phone numbers, and reservation instructions are in the ride guide on page 7.

[Richard_]

Mike,

You're welcome.

[CeeBee]

I will be coming from the Chabochis Rally in Creel.
Is there any body else going to CC?
My 650r is almost ready, not shure what tires to run, don't think the 606
w/ last all the way, keep in mind the slab back to Presidio area to get my truck.
Maybe TKCs or 908s.
I will live from Dallas.
Astor

I will be going to both rides this year also on a 650R. Will probably have Maxxis IT's on. Call me at 713-204-0120

[Pancho]

Pancho,

That's good info. Do you happen to have a name & phone number for that inn in Inturbide?

I don't think they have a phone, not prone to taking reservations.

[Richard_]

Riders,

If we fill up all the rooms in Galeana, we have a few more choices, but they are the adventure choices.

First, Pancho says there is a hotel in Inturbide, which is about 14 miles south of Galeana. I've googled it but have been unable to find a name or phone number.

Second, I understand from Milton and Chango that there is a hotel in Rayones, which is about an hour north via a dirt road. Again, I've googled it but have been unable to find a name or phone number.

Third, there are 4 or 5 hotels in Linares, which is about 40 miles east of Galeana. These hotels can be googled for names/phone numbers/prices because Linares is a fair-sized town on the main N/S highway.

[BIG A]

well found out today i have got to start all over on my paper work, found that on my title,and registration they got my middle initial wrong, they put in a "b" instead of an"r" cannot belive i didn't notice it until i got a copy of my title.:doh: :doh: :eek2:

[tricepilot]

well found out today i have got to start all over on my paper work, found that on my title,and registration they got my middle initial wrong, they put in a "b" instead of an"r" cannot belive i didn't notice it until i got a copy of my title.:doh: :doh: :eek2:

Your attention to detail will pay dividends and you will pass Go and collect $200

Bob

[LakeRat]

I called GE Finance (Honda Card) and asked for the authorization to take the bike into MX, and they sad NO.
I was told that they do not issue such letters, and even if I was to pay it off
would take at least six weeks to get the title.
I will try again next week but if they don't bulge what can I do?
Thanks
Astor
XRR

[Richard_]

Astor,

Though I've heard that you are supposed to have a notorized letter from the leinholder to take your vehicle out of the country I've never been asked for this letter for my motorcycle when entering Mexico. None of the riders with me have ever been asked either. I think it is likely that you won't be asked to produce that letter. So, if you don't mind defying the lien holder on this issue, you will probably be able to get your bike into Mexico.

I believe you can get your vehicle import sticker using your current registration. At least, every trip I've made to Mexico so far, I and all the riders with me have been able to use our registration, not title, to get the sticker.

If there is a Mexican Consultate in the Dallas area I recommend going there and getting the sticker for your bike now. The sticker is good for up to 6 months, so there is no problem with it expiring prior to or during MexTrek as long as you tell them that you want one for 6 months. Take your drivers license, registration, and a credit card when you go. Going now gives you some time to fix any problems that may occur.

[tricepilot]

If there is a Mexican Consultate in the Dallas area I recommend going there and getting the sticker for your bike now.


Mexican Consulate Dallas
8855 N Stemmons Fwy
Dallas, TX 75247
(214) 630-3511

Anybody can get the import permit delivered to their door via FedEx by following the simple instructions on the Banjercito website:

banjercito (http://www.banjercito.com.mx/site/imagenes/iitv/instruccionesIITV_ing.html)

Bob

[tricepilot]

I just went online and did the vehicle permit on the bajercito website.

Quick and painless.

You do have to know which border crossing you will use; you do have to specify a date that you are crossing, and you have to have ready your VIN and passport number, and you use your credit card to pay.

The permit is supposed to be mailed within 10 days, and the person signing for the FedEx package needs to show the passport and the credit card used for payment.

You also have to return copies of documents, probably registration and passport etc. I'll comment on that when I get the package in the mail.

You still have to stop at aduana and get your tourist visa, but that only takes a few moments.

Any questions post them here or PM

Bob

[kennyanc]

Ok, I've been sitting on the fence for so long my *** is killing me. I'm jumpin' off on the MX side.

I just printed out the registration form and will get it in the mail Monday morning.

I will be leaving NC on Sat, the 18th and will probably be crossing the border Monday, Oct 20th. I may meet some of the other guys in Laredo/Colombia or I may cross at McAllen and blast on down to Xilitla and Jalpan. Maybe swing back thru Zacatecas or GTO on the way to Galeana. I was there last October and I missed a few things and really want to get back down there.

Sign me up Richard. I am sending you a PM.

Thanks,

Kenny

[skup]

Just got my permit Thursday at the Consulate in Houston. I only neaded to have registration, drivers license, and passport (plus credit card). They asked where I would cross the border but they told me it was not a problem if that changes later. No letter from the lien holder was required.

[TerraXpeditions]

Anyone trailering from Dallas or Houston with trailer space for an XR650L?

I will help with Gas.

Otherwise, I'll swap tires and think twice about riding that friggan far on my XR650L.... AGAIN!:doh:

[Vinny]

Hey Guys,

I'm not sure if this has been covered. I'm going in thru Columbia crossing on Monday and thinking on leaving thru Mcallen on Sunday. Can I do that? or do I have to return thru the same place?
I guess I could ask at Columbia when I pass thru there.

[kennyanc]

I have left MX at a different location from my point of entry on several occasions. It was never a problem. Just make sure to get your vehicle import permit canceled.


Kenny

[six50rider]

First TAR! :flip: Add me to the list.

-Jarrett

[Richard_]

Vinny,

Kenny is right. You don't have to exit at the same place that you entered. Last year my group went in at Columbus and exited at Laredo and had no issues cancelling our vehicle permits.

[tricepilot]

Banjercito (http://www.banjercito.com.mx/site/imagenes/iitv/instruccionesIITV_ing.html)

Got the vehicle permit in hand delivered by FedEx - applied online on Saturday, FedEx at the door on Tuesday with a smile, and handed me the permit.

:clap:

The process couldn't have been easier.

If you want to save time at the border, consider the Banjercito website for your permit. The link is above.

It was the first time I've used the website, but not the last.

;-)

You have to specify a crossing, but in real life it doesn't matter where you enter and where you exit, as long as you turn in the permit when you leave Mexico and get a receipt. (Unless, of course, you plan to go back and use the same permit within a six month window)

muy facil

Bob

[PharrSide]

Looking for parking?

Me and right now one other maybe two others are look to go down some were on the boarder park our trucks and tralers some were safe for the week. What we are hoping to do is get down there the Saturday before and go acrouse on Sunday ride down the coast and were ever till wednesday. Then ride on over to Galeana check in. Can eney one tell me of a good place to park and tell of some good places to check out? And if some of ya'll might like to ride with us let me know.
Winer & new to dirt riding need not apply

I would kinda like to hook up with someone leaving Sunday or Monday but I'm not sure if I can meet all your requirements. I never whine but I've only been riding about 45 years. I do ***** sometimes but not often and only about something really important. I ride a XR650L so if you are planning a lot of high speed pavement count me out, otherwise I am interested. Dale

[RICK M]

Rick M and Big A have vehicle permits in hand , we had alot more fun getting ours than Tricepilot . I called the Mex consolate Monday and found out there days open and hours . Mon - Fri 8am - 1pm . We drove down Tuesday morning and they were closed for a Mexican holiday !@#$%^&*^%# :doh: we were pissed . So I called again this morning and spoke to someone to make sure they were open - we drove back down and there were Mexicans all over the place - must have been 100-150 inside . I told Big A we were going to be there a long time - then we figured out where to go for the vehicle permits and we were done in 15 minutes .Next time we will take Tricepilots advise ,but on the positive side we went by Lone Star BMW and got to drool at the new f 800 gs , so it was all good . :clap:
Rick M

[tricepilot]

:doh: we were pissed .

http://tricepilot.smugmug.com/photos/363476295_PAnqA-L.jpg

http://tricepilot.smugmug.com/photos/363492568_NkAWi-L.jpg

You don't look like the get-pissed type

You look like the type I'd like to ride Mexico with

:party:

just sayin'

Bob

[skup]

Looking forward to the trip. Five of us from Houston are going JR, Jim Green, Delores, Klaus and Jim Knight.

Richard has done an outstanding job on the book and maps. The gps maps are awesome on my Zumo 550. I also would recommend the Bicimaps Mexico mapset.
:clap:

I am in Houston and would like to go with a group. What day do you plan on leaving. I would like to spend Tuesday night at the border if possible.

[terlingua]

PharrSide;

I would kinda like to hook up with someone leaving Sunday or Monday but I'm not sure if I can meet all your requirements. I never whine but I've only been riding about 45 years. I do ***** sometimes but not often and only about something really important. I ride a XR650L so if you are planning a lot of high speed pavement count me out, otherwise I am interested. Dale


Hay Dale, the buddy I was going to do that longer ride with can't make now, his house and bike were undere three feet of water last weekend. Sory, but one of the others and I are going down on Tuesday and crossing Wednesday
and ride in. We try to stay off of the Hwy our self and more to the back roads and trails as much as we can. What they are calling class 3's the guys and that I ride with and I look for most. I ride a KTM 950 and other guy is on a 450xcw but don't let the size of my bike fool you I can get were I need it. We are looking at crossing at McAllen if you are others would like to ride in with us.

Bruce

[stingray]

Just got back from the consulate in Austin. Took about 15 min to get the vehicle permit. They asked for the registration papers, my passport and a credit card. Very easy......

[RICK M]

SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTT TTT
Rick M :thumb:

[skup]

Keep in mind that they will charge you tax on the value of the bike listed on the registration. You get it back only after you do the paper work coming back into the US. If you decide not to go you are out of luck or will have to cross the border just to get the refund.

[Richard_]

Keep in mind that they will charge you tax on the value of the bike listed on the registration. You get it back only after you do the paper work coming back into the US. If you decide not to go you are out of luck or will have to cross the border just to get the refund.

skup,

Maybe I missed out on some money I should have gotten back but I've never received a tax refund (or any refund) when I've done the paperwork to bring my motorcycle out of Mexico. Nor have any of the riders I've been with received a tax refund.

Last year, one rider with me paid the bond on his bike with cash instead of using a credit card and that money was refunded to him when he checked his bike out of Mexico. Is that what you are talking about?

[PharrSide]

PharrSide;

I would kinda like to hook up with someone leaving Sunday or Monday but I'm not sure if I can meet all your requirements. I never whine but I've only been riding about 45 years. I do ***** sometimes but not often and only about something really important. I ride a XR650L so if you are planning a lot of high speed pavement count me out, otherwise I am interested. Dale


Hay Dale, the buddy I was going to do that longer ride with can't make now, his house and bike were undere three feet of water last weekend. Sory, but one of the others and I are going down on Tuesday and crossing Wednesday
and ride in. We try to stay off of the Hwy our self and more to the back roads and trails as much as we can. What they are calling class 3's the guys and that I ride with and I look for most. I ride a KTM 950 and other guy is on a 450xcw but don't let the size of my bike fool you I can get were I need it. We are looking at crossing at McAllen if you are others would like to ride in with us.

Bruce

Bruce, If I can't hook up with someone who wants to leave a couple of days early I plan to ride with the group crossing at McAllen on Wednesday morning. It sounds like you will be there as well. Dale

[skup]

skup,

Maybe I missed out on some money I should have gotten back but I've never received a tax refund (or any refund) when I've done the paperwork to bring my motorcycle out of Mexico. Nor have any of the riders I've been with received a tax refund.

Last year, one rider with me paid the bond on his bike with cash instead of using a credit card and that money was refunded to him when he checked his bike out of Mexico. Is that what you are talking about?

I believe we are talking aout the same thing. They charged me the tax on the bike on my credit card and said I would get the refund on the border once I crossed back. They also said the refund was only credited at the border. I assume so they can verify that you are bringing the bike back.

[Richard_]

skup,

I agree, we are talking about the same thing. Thanks.

[jtb73]

I have a non street legal XR650R that I've ridden several times in Baja. In Baja it doesn't matter if you're street legal. Is this ride possible on a non legal bike or do I have to put a kit on it? Also, is everyone riding down or is anyone trailering/trucking their bikes down? The XR isn't exactly fun to ride for hours and hours on pavement.

Thanks

[Richard_]

jtb73,

Interesting question. I don't know if your bike needs a street legal kit. I always just assumed we needed to be street legal, but never actually asked / investigated the question.

I'm trailering to McAllen and riding from there.

[Chango]

Baja is different than the Mainland . If your XR has an off road only title in
your name . That PROBABLY will get your vehicle permit. There are plenty of U.S. riders that ride competition down there . I'll send you some info. you can ask him.

[terlingua]

Dale, There is a guy name Chuck that I have road with before that called me the other day. And was trying get me to ride with him in Copper Canyon the weekend before and then ride down from there for this. But I just don't have the time to do that much riding, I sure wish I did. If your up for that much then I can give him a call for you.

Bruce