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bones
06-20-2008, 09:33 AM
Happened twice now that I recall. Leaving work, maybe a mile or so until I hit the interstate. Get on the interstate and at about 60-70 it starts cutting out and surging like it wants to die. Then a couple miles down the road it magically cures itself.

Bike is stock. 6500 miles. Has a Yosh pipe now and PAIR blocked off, but it has done it with both stock and the Yosh.

Any thoughts?

Roy
06-20-2008, 10:13 AM
Any codes popping up? warning lights? You mentioned a while back your fuel mileage was less than most. Remove your right side panel, you will find a white plug with a black rubber cap, remove the cap, looking straight into the plug take a paper clip and jump the far right two plug holes. Turn the key on with on/off switch in the on position, come back and tell me what the dash readout says, look where the trip meter is located you will see a -C00, if something other than that shows up your TPS is off or you have a error code present. One more thing you could take it to a dealer with the SDS and plug your bike up and view this problem if you get a code. The software will retrieve what the bike was doing at the time of malfunction, htis is stored under DTC section of SDS, you must have a prior code though. No code no problem so to speak. Either way while its running on the laptop view the various parameters to see if something jumps out as unusual. My guess is you may have the TPS issue that I recently discovered on my bike. If that is the case I can walk you through the adjustment. It is not for the faint at heart. My bike had some similar running issues which turned out to be a TPS off 9 tenths of a degree from stock. It came that way to me from the great old Suzuki Factory.

bones
06-20-2008, 10:36 AM
Thanks Roy I will look into that tonight. It's been very rare, and literally 30-45 days apart. I'd like it to be something wrong that improves mpg, and REALLY hope that 5 year warranty transfers. PO didn't have or send me any paperwork on it. Said it was traced through the VIN. Hope so.

twist
06-20-2008, 11:08 AM
Happened to me two weeks ago, 4649 miles, going around 60 MPH, exactly as you describe. I loosened my grip thinking it was perhaps me inadvertently jiggling the throttle - but nope. I even started looking for a place to pull over - assuming it would die. I made a note of it on my maintenance log, but nothing else - figured it was just an abnormality and went away (nothing sense).

I'm keeping a wary eye out now - and will check the codes as suggested by Roy.

humm....

Roy
06-24-2008, 10:20 AM
Any verdict on this yet?

bones
06-24-2008, 11:10 AM
Any verdict on this yet?
I didn't ride it all weekend, too busy with house work. Rode it today and no issues, but I want to check your advice and I will get back to you.

Thanks for checking up on me

Roy
06-24-2008, 11:35 AM
I didn't ride it all weekend, too busy with house work. Rode it today and no issues, but I want to check your advice and I will get back to you.

Thanks for checking up on me

No problem, I figure since I know more than most on the FI functions right now might as well keep rolling with it while its fresh on my mind. I suspect my bike was not the only one poorly setup from the factory. I figure there are quite a few out there with similar issues. That is why you hear complaints about surging, idles weird and cut out issues. Let me now what you come up with on the TP check but you might want to pack a small allen wrench in the tankbag and a paper clip so if you do get a code you can access the right side panel (panel can be removed without removing seat) plug before killing the bike, remember if you get a code simply pull the right side cover and jump the two far right plug holes with the bike still running and report back the Cxx code from the dash readout. Like I said I am still curious as to where your TPS is located that can be checked anytime off or running. Your looking for -C00 on the TPS.:trust:

bones
06-24-2008, 02:07 PM
Thanks. My idle seems high @ 1100+/- and it seems to stumble at stop lights.

Hit the blinking light at 105 miles and I have been taking it easy. I have ot get on this soon. It will kill me to stop every 120 miles on a 2000 mile trip to refuel. :zen: Only gripe about this tank anymore.

treybrad
06-24-2008, 02:25 PM
Hit the blinking light at 105 miles and I have been taking it easy.

Wow - something has to be wrong there. I knew you were hitting the light early, but if you're taking it easy and it's blinking by 105mi, that's awful. Even 2-up, windy, loaded down and going fast I've never had it come on that early.

Typical commuting mine starts flashing around 120mi, taking it easy around 130mi, and out cruising back roads it's come on as late as 155mi before.

I'm curious to see what you find. Keep us posted.

trey

Brass
06-24-2008, 02:47 PM
Trey,

I'm confused. Are you saying you only getting 150 miles to a tank? I regularly ride 2 up at around 70-75 mph (110 -120 kph) and travel 217 miles (350 kilometers) on a single fill. This is GPS verified mileage, my elevation goes from ~2800' to 7200'.

bones
06-24-2008, 03:10 PM
I reckon he is saying that is when the gas light starts blinking.

Never ridden two up and only really ever have the 46L topcase on it with lunch and rain gear in it. Never had it really loaded down yet.

bones
06-24-2008, 08:32 PM
_C00 is what shows up. :doh:

Anyone want a bandit, I want a new bike already. jk

bones
06-24-2008, 10:17 PM
My chain was in need of a good cleaning, so I did that, lubed it up and started it on the center stand and put it in gear and it seemed like it was skipping a tooth. Every few revolutions the chain would jump around a lot. This common? I have never noticed this on past bikes and it really bugged me. Took the front cover off and the sprocket is fine. Something about this bike is making me leary or riding it super long distance now which was why it was purchased.

RcTimmy
06-24-2008, 11:41 PM
Trey,

I'm confused. Are you saying you only getting 150 miles to a tank? I regularly ride 2 up at around 70-75 mph (110 -120 kph) and travel 217 miles (350 kilometers) on a single fill. This is GPS verified mileage, my elevation goes from ~2800' to 7200'.

Bones, you're not alone. I start blinking at 75-85 miles and need to fill up around 115-125 miles. I commute 50 miles round trip every day and can only make it to work and back twice so I fill up 2.5 times every week. I just chalked it up to the fact that I'm a fatso weighing in at 275. Funny thing though, my gauge will never go to FULL. It's always one notch down after a fill up.

On another note, my stock Dunlop tires lasted 6000 miles front and back..

hawk GT
06-25-2008, 06:05 AM
My chain was in need of a good cleaning, so I did that, lubed it up and started it on the center stand and put it in gear and it seemed like it was skipping a tooth. Every few revolutions the chain would jump around a lot. This common? I have never noticed this on past bikes and it really bugged me. Took the front cover off and the sprocket is fine. Something about this bike is making me leary or riding it super long distance now which was why it was purchased.

Chains develop tight spots as you describe when they need to be replaced. Try pulling on the chain at the back of the rear sprocket.If you can pull a link off of the sprocket and can see a space through it you need to replace the chain. Severely negleted/abused chains will last about 10 - 15,000 miles. A properly taken care of chain can last as much as 25,000 miles. By neglected/abused I mean Improper lube intervals, too long between adjustments, too tight adjustments, and pullin' lots of wheelies......etc. As far as your poor gas mileage and surging, I'm not sure. I don't know much about fuel injected bikes ( me carburetor caveman ). Sounds like maybe a sensor failing?

Roy
06-25-2008, 06:37 AM
_C00 is what shows up. :doh:

Anyone want a bandit, I want a new bike already. jk

As I suspected your TPS is off like mine. I can tell you how to set it but after that you will also need to re-sync the throttle bodies to the new TPS setting. Getting to the TPS screw part your not going to like, throttle bodies have to come off unless you have really, really small hands. It is not really that hard to remove the TB's. Air box comes out after the TB's. Then you set the TB's back up in place plug everything back in, turn the key on, turn the tiny screw on the bottom of TB's and watch the dash guage. Re-attach TB's, follow the manual on the re-assembly, fire it up and set up for a sync job. That should cure the issue.

Roy
06-25-2008, 06:48 AM
My chain was in need of a good cleaning, so I did that, lubed it up and started it on the center stand and put it in gear and it seemed like it was skipping a tooth. Every few revolutions the chain would jump around a lot. This common? I have never noticed this on past bikes and it really bugged me. Took the front cover off and the sprocket is fine. Something about this bike is making me leary or riding it super long distance now which was why it was purchased.


It will not run smooth on the centerstand with your current TPS setting the chugging is what your are seeing its not skipping a tooth. I bet you have alot of surge at light throttle openings also? Just a bad balance at the throttle bodies. This really pisses me off thta Suzuki is obviously letting a number of poorly tuned bikes leave the factory. What's the point of emissions control if its tuned wrong. Sems a moot point to me. If the goverment was actually checking their bikes they would fail at the street level testing. My suspicions are if you are experiencing poor fuel mileage then the TB's are off no different than a carb bike poorly jetted. I can help you get it right but you will need a sync guage, basic hand tools and if you could get a laptop with SDS on it that would make it alot easier since it shows actual engine temp which is critical when doing sync. Your TPS setting on SDS should read 27.9 degrees, I bet yours is 27 degrees like mine was. You got a friday bike also.

hawk GT
06-25-2008, 08:00 AM
I'm not sure about how the back of that bike is. If it's a dual sided swingarm then the skipping a tooth ( I'm sure it isn't skipping a tooth literally ) scenario you describe could be uneven alignment of the rear axle. There should be adjusters on either fork of the swing arm. See if they are at the same notch of the gauge/marks. With the bike in neutral and on the center stand spin the tire and visually inspect down the chains length as you spin the tire. Alignment issues will present themselves as you watch it spin. But, check/correct that TPS issue, and see if the axle lines up with the marks on the swingarm.

Roy
06-25-2008, 08:29 AM
I'm not sure about how the back of that bike is. If it's a dual sided swingarm then the skipping a tooth ( I'm sure it isn't skipping a tooth literally ) scenario you describe could be uneven alignment of the rear axle. There should be adjusters on either fork of the swing arm. See if they are at the same notch of the gauge/marks. With the bike in neutral and on the center stand spin the tire and visually inspect down the chains length as you spin the tire. Alignment issues will present themselves as you watch it spin. But, check/correct that TPS issue, and see if the axle lines up with the marks on the swingarm.


The swingarm marks are all off on the new 1250's. The jerky chain on the centerstand at idle is from his TPS being out of whack among other things out of adjustment with the throttle bodies. Mine exhibited the same trait when it was out of whack.

hawk GT
06-25-2008, 08:38 AM
The swingarm marks are all off on the new 1250's. The jerky chain on the centerstand at idle is from his TPS being out of whack among other things out of adjustment with the throttle bodies. Mine exhibited the same trait when it was out of whack.

Yeah, that's cool. But what he describes could also be a rear axle out of alignment as far as the chain is concerned. He should learn, if he does'nt already know, how to check for rear axle alignment.Que no?:yawn:

bones
06-25-2008, 09:33 AM
It will not run smooth on the centerstand with your current TPS setting the chugging is what your are seeing its not skipping a tooth. I bet you have alot of surge at light throttle openings also? Just a bad balance at the throttle bodies. This really pisses me off thta Suzuki is obviously letting a number of poorly tuned bikes leave the factory. What's the point of emissions control if its tuned wrong. Sems a moot point to me. If the goverment was actually checking their bikes they would fail at the street level testing. My suspicions are if you are experiencing poor fuel mileage then the TB's are off no different than a carb bike poorly jetted. I can help you get it right but you will need a sync guage, basic hand tools and if you could get a laptop with SDS on it that would make it alot easier since it shows actual engine temp which is critical when doing sync. Your TPS setting on SDS should read 27.9 degrees, I bet yours is 27 degrees like mine was. You got a friday bike also.
Thanks Roy. I need to sync gauge and SDS (any links would be great), then I will crack into this pig. Glad to hear it's at least fixable and nothing to have to live with.

Filled up this morning, 35.1mpg and I tried to keep it under 4K rpm's as much as possible and of course I romp on it from time to time, but still.

Roy
06-25-2008, 10:11 AM
Thanks Roy. I need to sync gauge and SDS (any links would be great), then I will crack into this pig. Glad to hear it's at least fixable and nothing to have to live with.

Filled up this morning, 35.1mpg and I tried to keep it under 4K rpm's as much as possible and of course I romp on it from time to time, but still.

I bought a Motion Pro SyncPro. The 1st one was a bad/older design that would not work on the Bandit. Motion Pro sent me a replacement so be aware there may still be old stock floating out there from online retailers. I got mine from Dennis Kirk for $104.99, their's was obviously old stock. As for SDS a local dealer should have this on a laptop. It can be done without it but as I said earlier it is much more difficult to do since the operating temp for sync needs to be 176 ~212 degrees no more no less. Trust me the thing heats up quick in a garage trying to fiddle with air screws. Have a robust fan to keep it cool. As for pulling the throttle bodies, I just found no way to get at the TPS screw without pulling them. It is fairly straight forward and well explained in the service manaul how to remove them. Remember never turn the key on until you have all the plugs plugged in or it will error code on you. Removing the airbox after the throttle bodies are out makes placing the TB's in temporarily to get the plugs plugged in and access to the screw easier. Leave the throttle cables attached, the whole TB unit will swing out to the right of bike plenty. The TPs screw is a 10mm jamb nut with a allen stud for adjustment, it will have white paint on it can't miss it under the TB's in the middle. You can see it from the right side up under if you look with a flashlight. Use the dash -C00 to get the bar to come into the middle of the C so you will need it in dealer mode to adjust turn the screw ever so slowly till the bar meets the middle of the C. If you have SDS hooked up you will see under Data monitor TPS will read 27.9 degrees once cet correctly. After you have set the TPS re-install the air box then TB's tighten it all back up. Proceed with the sync process per the manual either using SDS or dealer mode. After this you should be back to stock spec and the mileage will jump to mid 40's whether your putting or racing it. It will still lean surge a bit at 3500 rpm's even perfect but that is the cheap single phase O2 sensor Suzuki uses, nothing can be done with it except bypass it. DoBeck Performance can sell you one for about $15 bucks but be for-warned I have my 3rd one on the way die to failures in the resistor they are using. Hopefully 3rd time is the charm. You can prop the tank up plenty enough to get access to the airscrews wit hthe engine running. I used 2x4's stacked front and rear of tank. 1/2 tank or lower makes handling the tank easier.

Don't be terrified to work on this bike it is really easy to work on but complicated to tune due to the electronics. If you can use a computer and use basic hand tools you can work on this bike.

bones
06-25-2008, 10:24 AM
I really appreciate this Roy. Looks like I need to spend some coin on a manual, throttle sync tool and some software.

Roy
06-25-2008, 10:45 AM
I really appreciate this Roy. Looks like I need to spend some coin on a manual, throttle sync tool and some software.

Service manual was posted here and a few other places online for free download. I would buy the Motion Pro from Motion Pro to insure you get a up to date model. SDS Software link cable is through the roof and most dealers will not order it for you. SDS Cable link is like $500 plus and the CD software is another $150. Use your dealers laptop if they will allow you to do this since chances are they do not know how to perform this work. Most likely you do not want them to earn on your bike. This all could be fixed under your warranty since it came this way the TPS is not easy to fiddle with so the yknow you did not move it. I opted to do the work myself Suzuki was no help as usual. Like I said earlier you can do it in just dealer mode alone but watch the temp of the engine not sure how one is suppose to do that since this bike has NO friggin guage.

bones
06-25-2008, 07:30 PM
Well it literally died leaving work. Pulled over, frustrated, helmet off. Hit the starter.....fired back up. :clap:

Cut out a ton on the 7 miles home and I called the dealer, left a message to get this pile fixed under warranty.

Can't wait to get my Duke next week.

Roy
06-25-2008, 07:56 PM
Any codes popping up, warning lights? Sounds fuel related to me. Good luck with the dealer I hope they are up to date with this operating system if not you could be in for a long journey. Keep us posted on the outcome. My warranty log with my potential ISC valve problem was suppose to be logged this week but as of today they were still awaiting a call back from a Suzuki tech. My warranty expires July 20th of this year. I do not buy extended warranties.

bones
06-25-2008, 08:56 PM
I have not checked codes. I was so frustrated and relieved once I got home I have not touched it and am drinking and grilling some chops.

More to follow

Arbee
06-26-2008, 05:56 AM
Bones

The bike hasnt been under water lately has it... going by locality ...

cheers arbee

bones
06-26-2008, 08:44 AM
:rolleyes: No it has not. I just got it in January and no water at my house. Bought it from the original owner out of Louisiana.

Roy
06-26-2008, 09:01 AM
I have not checked codes. I was so frustrated and relieved once I got home I have not touched it and am drinking and grilling some chops.

More to follow

I guess I should have been a little more clear. If it did not throw a code while running/riding and you did not see anything on the dash readout then going into dealer mode will not reveal anything at this time. If a failure was logged on the ECM it could be retrieved and analyzed using SDS on a laptop. Since you do not have SDS as most of us do not its time to go to the dealer and hope they know how to use it. While you are there show them that the TPS is off. You may get lucky and they will know what they are doing and set it all for you with no charge the end result.

bones
06-26-2008, 09:23 AM
Waiting a call back from service. Then verify I have the extended warranty, then make an appointment. They can have it for a week for all I care. Just get it fixed.

Glad I am buying another bike as early as this weekend so I can keep riding and not be bothered by this hiccup.

EDIT: no I did not notice any codes thrown, but I was not looking at the odo either

andouille
06-26-2008, 09:30 AM
:rolleyes: No it has not. I just got it in January and no water at my house. Bought it from the original owner out of Louisiana.

Wow, very frustrating. Now I see why you were lusting over the Viffer on that other board.;-) Still, if it came from Louisianner, that high water question may still be in play, no? :eek2: I wish I could be of more help, but I am still under .5K miles on my 1250, and in learning mode right now. I am getting 45 mpg, almost 10 mpg more than your bike. There must be a connection with the cutting out and poor mileage.

I will certainly be monitoring this thread. I originally was very close to buying a C14, but I decided there were just too many glitches reported by new owners, and opted for the simpler Bandit. I have to say that your 1250 Bandit experience seems out of the ordinary.

Tim

bones
06-26-2008, 09:34 AM
I am not the brightest, but my bike is an 07.....I think the floods in LA were well before this bike was created. :-P

andouille
06-26-2008, 09:54 AM
I am not the brightest, but my bike is an 07.....I think the floods in LA were well before this bike was created. :-P

We don't need no stinking huge hurricane for it to flood here. :storm:

But, no doubt your problem is not water related. I do wonder if the previous owner might shed some light on this. Sorry, not sure I have read this whole thread, has this been covered already?

Tim

bones
06-26-2008, 09:55 AM
I thought about emailing him, but doubt it will do any good. I mentioned the poor mpg a while back and he said he always got in the 40's.

patience grasshoppah

bones
06-26-2008, 01:42 PM
2 weeks out on appointments. :shaking:

Brass
06-26-2008, 01:46 PM
Have they verified your extended warranty? Can they do that with your VIN?

bones
06-26-2008, 02:10 PM
Phone tag. Message he left was two weeks out. I am calling other dealers 30-70 miles away now. It's a Zuk/H-D dealer so I am not holding my breath on prompt service.

bones
06-30-2008, 03:06 PM
Well dealer just called. Made an appointment last week for the 10th. Call me to say my warr. expires tomorrow. I bought the bike with a big factor in it having a 5 year extended. PO said there was no paperwork, just follows the VIN.

Waiting to hear back to see if they will cover this or not. I am far from happy right now. :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire

andouille
06-30-2008, 03:46 PM
Well dealer just called. Made an appointment last week for the 10th. Call me to say my warr. expires tomorrow. I bought the bike with a big factor in it having a 5 year extended. PO said there was no paperwork, just follows the VIN.

Waiting to hear back to see if they will cover this or not. I am far from happy right now. :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire

No paperwork? Give me a break.

PO should be made aware there are laws covering fraud and if he does not want to be sued, he should produce the paperwork forthwith!

Tim

Roy
06-30-2008, 03:53 PM
Well dealer just called. Made an appointment last week for the 10th. Call me to say my warr. expires tomorrow. I bought the bike with a big factor in it having a 5 year extended. PO said there was no paperwork, just follows the VIN.

Waiting to hear back to see if they will cover this or not. I am far from happy right now. :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire

If all else fails I'll do my best to help you fix it over the net. Wish I could do more since it is quite a detailed job if you have never messed with this type work before.

Hate to rub it in but mine is running outstanding after I performed all the needed adjustments and work, 45 mpg daily:rider: It took me about 3 weeks to learn the software, get my sync guage in and learn as went along. Alot of things I did then I could do agin in fraction of the time now.

I hope they come through for you seems if your warranty had not expired at the time of service call it should still be in effect even after it is expired. I would not take the 1st no on this pursue it through Suzuki if you must, here is the #1-714-572-1490 Tell them I have already filed a complaint on this situation since my dealer was unable to fix my bike because of lack of knowledge. PM and I'll give you my whole name so maybe that will tell them this is not a one bike event. I suspect there are many more out there they just do not know.

bones
06-30-2008, 04:02 PM
If all else fails I'll do my best to help you fix it over the net. Wish I could do more since it is quite a detailed job if you have never messed with this type work before.

Hate to rub it in but mine is running outstanding after I performed all the needed adjustments and work, 45 mpg daily:rider: It took me about 3 weeks to learn the software, get my sync guage in and learn as went along. Alot of things I did then I could do agin in fraction of the time now.

I hope they come through for you seems if your warranty had not expired at the time of service call it should still be in effect even after it is expired. I would not take the 1st no on this pursue it through Suzuki if you must, here is the #1-714-572-1490 Tell them I have already filed a complaint on this situation since my dealer was unable to fix my bike because of lack of knowledge. PM and I'll give you my whole name so maybe that will tell them this is not a one bike event. I suspect there are many more out there they just do not know.
Thanks again Roy, you have been helpful above and beyond! Waiting to hear from the dealer and go from there. I can do the work, just don't want to buy the tools and won't buy that software. I would love a bike without hesitation and chugging....IT'S BRAND NEW!! :lol2: Only 6600 miles.

bones
07-02-2008, 08:30 AM
Talked to the previous owner last night. He is going to where he bought it and have them pull the paperwork on it and either mail/fax it up to me for verification. Hoping the ball was not dropped on this and I have that 5 year warr. and can present it to my dealer or go to the dealer 30 mile south of me that I hear is better service anyway.

andouille
07-02-2008, 08:38 AM
Good, you apparently found the right button to push to get the PO off his lazy :moon: If I paid good money for an extended warranty at a dealership, I certainly would expect to walk away with some paper in hand. Seems to me they would also provide you with some kind of card you could carry in your wallet.

Tim

bones
07-02-2008, 09:09 AM
Good, you apparently found the right button to push to get the PO off his lazy :moon: If I paid good money for an extended warranty at a dealership, I certainly would expect to walk away with some paper in hand. Seems to me they would also provide you with some kind of card you could carry in your wallet.

Tim
PO is a very nice guy. He has no problems making this right. I emailed him the other day and called him last night, he returned my call within an hour. I never thought he lied or mislead me, more so the dealer just did not want to deal with my problem. I guess it's possible there could be an issue with whoever the ex. warr. is through also. Sombody dropped the ball somewhere.

Likely haul it 30 miles south to an all Jap dealer and get it done right. This town has nothing good to say about any bike dealer that I have heard.

andouille
07-02-2008, 09:46 AM
"Likely haul it 30 miles south to an all Jap dealer and get it done right. This town has nothing good to say about any bike dealer that I have heard."

My town, Baton Rouge, is much like that. Most of the import dealers suck, except for BMW which has a good service dept. but their parts dept. sucks. I have given up on the Japanese dealers and will take my Bandit to a good independent shop.

bones
07-02-2008, 10:23 AM
"Likely haul it 30 miles south to an all Jap dealer and get it done right. This town has nothing good to say about any bike dealer that I have heard."

My town, Baton Rouge, is much like that. Most of the import dealers suck, except for BMW which has a good service dept. but their parts dept. sucks. I have given up on the Japanese dealers and will take my Bandit to a good independent shop.
No indy shops here that I know of that have the equipment to deal with newer bikes.

The Zuk dealer here is also an HD dealer. they know where their bread is buttered.

I got my bike out of LA, I think he was near Baton Rouge

bones
07-02-2008, 04:57 PM
Mark called me and apparently the salesman never processed his warr. and is no longer there, but there is record of it

sooooo they (the dealer) are going to buy me a 5 year warr. once that's secured I will go to the dealer. :giveup:

Rcdd
07-02-2008, 05:11 PM
Mark called me and apparently the salesman never processed his warr. and is no longer there, but there is record of it

sooooo they (the dealer) are going to buy me a 5 year warr. once that's secured I will go to the dealer. :giveup:

Is that the dealer in Baton Rouge?......Which one? As it sounds like they might be almost "straight-shooters"....:eek2:

andouille
07-02-2008, 07:06 PM
Is that the dealer in Baton Rouge?......Which one? As it sounds like they might be almost "straight-shooters"....:eek2:

Was it Light Speed Motorsports?

Tim

bones
07-02-2008, 07:32 PM
Is that the dealer in Baton Rouge?......Which one? As it sounds like they might be almost "straight-shooters"....:eek2:


Was it Light Speed Motorsports?

Tim

No idea of the dealer yet. Hoping they make this right and make it right fast. I have a long ride in august and want the bugs out of it ASAP, and get in the 40's and not low 30's to the ever rising gallon.

Story I heard was the saleman never wrote up the paperwork on it and pocketed the $$. Seems REAL far fetched to me. If I was buying a ex. warr. I'd be getting some documentation on that ***.

Roy
07-07-2008, 08:40 AM
Looks like there is another one out of whack over at Max S. He sent me a PM wanting to know how to get it set correctly. His fuel mileage was bad also. I suspect there are many many more out there. They may not even know it and accept the poor mileage as normal. The bike will run seemingly okay but its not right. I got 52 mpg on two tanks this past weekend on my trip, these were mountain roads not highway. On the highway I got a solid 43 mpg running GPS 75~80 mph. I can live with that. I am still having trouble keeping a O2 bypass operational. I have had 3 of Dales flip out, I made two of my own that flipped out so I am back stock for now until I get the resistor type figured out on this. Obviously the 1k Dale is using is not enough at steady highway cruise.