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Tesla
04-27-2009, 09:17 AM
Got the fever for a 2nd bike. Unfortunately can't afford to have 2 which means I may sell my trusty 2008 V-Strom 650 ABS. Who knew when I bought it last year that the wife suddenly decided she wants to ride not just locally but occasionally on longer trips as well. I love this bike and I might be making a big mistake selling it. Wife is fairly comfortable on this bike and she likes sitting up high......kinda like the truck/suv effect. She doesn't like its sensitivity to wind but it helps that it doesn't bother me which makes her more comfortable. Besides all bikes get affected by the wind to a degree. Told her we'd both be more comfortable on a true sport/touring bike. I think I might be using her as an excuse to get something different and more powerful like an FJR (145hp?!). Many of you will say don't do it, that the Wee has adequate power for 2-up and plenty for solo riding, that all bikes are affected by wind, Wee is easy to work on, is reliable, can set it for touring or dual sport, etc. My lust for another bike is that I am still a bike newbie. Only been riding for 2 years. Started on a naked Suzuki GS500 and then went to a 2K5 Wee and then a 2K8 Wee. I get a rush cracking that throttle in the sweet spot of the power band but at 64 hp, I feel like I'm missing out. Should I just starve the fever and keep the Wee? This would be a no brainer if I could just have 2 bikes.

Barry

pub610
04-27-2009, 09:19 AM
Fjr.

kurt
04-27-2009, 09:44 AM
Bum a ride on a sport touring bike like the ST or FJR.

Tesla
04-27-2009, 09:50 AM
Bum a ride on a sport touring bike like the ST or FJR.

Yep, Sport Ryder Rentals in Carrollton have em for rent.

Brass
04-27-2009, 11:07 AM
If you can get a rental to try out, I strongly suggest you do it. A few $$ now may save you $$$$$$ later.

Keep in mind any bike you try will give you that new bike high and thrill, just because it's new to you. Try to ignor that feeling and evaluate the bike for what it really is and does for you.

Consider what will need to be changed to make the bike fit you better and what the cost will be.
What is the comfort like for the back seat? Do the pegs force the passengers legs into an uncomfortable fold? Is the slop of the seat pushing the passenger into you. Stuff like that.

Make a list of wants and needs, then go from there. Good luck.

Kit_McConnico
04-27-2009, 07:25 PM
Title says it all, "I should be happy...." but you're not. And you won't be until you get the bike that makes you happy.

Brass has a good idea with a rental, however, once you've ridden it you can't un-ride it. Once you know what you're missing you'll probably be eaten up with new bike fever.

1 wheel peel
04-28-2009, 12:08 PM
+1 on doing the rental thing. If your buying new ride the C14 and FJR and the new Beemer. But there are a lot of really good deals on used FJRs right now that have been all farkled up or just plain stock. If they have been maintained these baikes are good for very high mileage. I have an 2005 and really like it. I also have a M109R that my wife will ride on the back of for about 20 min at a time. The FJR w/a corbin and backrest is more comfortable for her and she's good for an hour or two on it. There are no perfect bikes, just get one that suites you for the type of riding your doing now.

Skip Honeycutt
04-28-2009, 04:35 PM
The true sport tourers (FJR, ST, Connie, etc.) are GREAT mile munchers and handle much better than they should for 650+ lbs. bikes BUT they will all seem heavy coming off your 650. I also recommend renting something for at least a weekend. And don't just go blasting around the roads but spend some time in parking lots, around town, etc. to make sure you won't miss the V Strom's light weight and gravel road capablity too much.

McSpeedy
04-28-2009, 06:24 PM
1) Got the fever for a 2nd bike. Unfortunately can't afford to have 2.....

2) My lust for another bike is that I am still a bike newbie.....

3) I get a rush cracking that throttle in the sweet spot of the power band but at 64 hp, I feel like I'm missing out......

4) Should I just starve the fever and keep the Wee?...

5) This would be a no brainer if I could just have 2 bikes.

Barry

1) Why not?
2) No. You may think so, but it doesn't go away. I am looking to buy my third "new to me" bike in 3 years right now.
3) You are!
4) No. Make the change. My thoughts would be an FJR like some have mentioned. I have the ST, but wish I had the FJR.
5) I said why not above, but since you use the Wee like a sport tourer and you are thinking about another sport tourer, it doesn't make sense. I have 2 sport tourers in my GPZ and ST and it's a waste - I'll get rid of GPZ soon

Rickthescot
07-09-2009, 09:05 PM
I now own a Wee and could not be happier. Smallest street ride I ever owned. Last ride was a Ninja 750... lust for power is a dangerous thing. I found I could not control my right wrist and had a tendency toward hooliganism. As I near the half century mark I feel very comfortable on my Wee. That Tiger is cool though....

Motor-T
07-19-2009, 11:53 PM
How about a DL 1000 (Capitol V-Strom)

Tesla
07-20-2009, 08:58 AM
1) Why not?
2) No. You may think so, but it doesn't go away. I am looking to buy my third "new to me" bike in 3 years right now.
3) You are!
4) No. Make the change. My thoughts would be an FJR like some have mentioned. I have the ST, but wish I had the FJR.
5) I said why not above, but since you use the Wee like a sport tourer and you are thinking about another sport tourer, it doesn't make sense. I have 2 sport tourers in my GPZ and ST and it's a waste - I'll get rid of GPZ soon

Like that FJR but leaning to an ST due the the smoothness of the V-twin. Which has the better riding position for a tall guy?

I've accepted the fact that I may not like my next ride as much as the Wee but its a transition that I have to through.

I'm kicking myself for selling an 05 Wee last year to buy the 08 Wee. I could justify keeping the 05 and buying an FJR or ST but have too much money in the 08 to keep it.

How about a DL 1000 (Capitol V-Strom)

No ABS

flb_78
07-20-2009, 09:04 AM
Sell the Wee, buy an older Wee, buy a used FJR.

1 wheel peel
07-20-2009, 04:18 PM
Got the fever for a 2nd bike..... Told her we'd both be more comfortable on a true sport/touring bike. I think I might be using her as an excuse to get something different and more powerful like an FJR (145hp?!)......I get a rush cracking that throttle in the sweet spot of the power band but at 64 hp, I feel like I'm missing out.....Barry

Like that FJR but leaning to an ST due the the smoothness of the V-twin. Which has the better riding position for a tall guy?

I've accepted the fact that I may not like my next ride as much as the Wee but its a transition that I have to through.

I'm kicking myself for selling an 05 Wee last year to buy the 08 Wee. I could justify keeping the 05 and buying an FJR or ST but have too much money in the 08 to keep it...
Back to your first post about the rush of cracking the throttle, 20hp difference in a car is noticable, 20hp difference on a bike is night and day, especially when it is on a bike that is almost a hundred pounds lighter. Not to take away anything from the ST, they are great bikes. They are very smooth but they are V-4 not V-twins

Numbers to consider
Honda ST1300 125hp 80lbs tq 730lbs
Yamaha FJR1300 145hp 103lbs tq 641lbs

Sell the Wee, buy an older Wee, buy a used FJR.

I agree:mrgreen:

jnappier
07-20-2009, 04:48 PM
Nothing wrong with multiple bikes. The way to accomplish this is patients and persistence.

Squeaky
07-20-2009, 05:19 PM
Nothing wrong with multiple bikes. The way to accomplish this is patients and persistence.

Not "wrong" per se, but a problem will arise - no space in the garage! :giveup:

foggy
07-20-2009, 05:19 PM
Barry, nothing wrong with that Wee Strom, but when my wife and I did trips on my FJR, that xtra power was MUCH appreciated riding 2-up with the bags and top trunk loaded down whenever we needed to do a quick passing manuver. I considered it a safety feature of the bike! When riding solo I did sometimes wish for something lighter though but it was never really a problem. The FJR is a great bike. 26,000 mile valve adjustment intervals on it are nice too. If you look for a Gen 2 bike (2006 to present), make sure the ignition recall has been done. If it hasn't, it's a no charge update from any dealer.

Craig

Motor-T
07-20-2009, 06:06 PM
No ABS

Now that's just wrong. :doh:

1 wheel peel
07-20-2009, 07:04 PM
Not "wrong" per se, but a problem will arise - no space in the garage! :giveup:

Any problem can be overcome.:mrgreen: http://www.muellerinc.com/building/prefab_kits.php

DaJudge
08-09-2009, 09:08 PM
Are you still shopping Barry?

+1 on the FJR. IMHO, it's engine is easily as smooth as the ST1300 and seems to have considerably more giddy-up. I just enjoyed riding it much more than I did the ST. In fact, after the test ride of the ST, it went from high on my short list (based on reviews, etc.) to dropping off the list completely:shrug:.

After test-riding multiple sport-touring bikes (ST1300, R1150RT, C-14, FJRs GenI and GenII, 2003 and 2006 BMW K1200GT), I narrowed it down to a 2007 FJR (GenII is 2006 and newer) and the '06 K1200GT. It became a tough call as I liked them both quite a lot. I opted for the used '07 FJR since it included the extended factory warranty until 11/2012 and the Yammie dealer is right down the road. The nearest BMW dealer is almost 100 miles away. Pity, the K-bike (152hp, Std. Cruise and ABS, Electronic Suspension Adjustment) is very impressive.

ItchyBob
08-10-2009, 07:07 AM
You like the Wee, but want something bigger and more powerful? Try a Triumph Tiger. Most dealers have a demo too.

patricjft
08-12-2009, 01:46 PM
Not "wrong" per se, but a problem will arise - no space in the garage! :giveup:


There is always the living room. Then the dining room. And, if you still need more space, the kitchen.

tricepilot
08-12-2009, 02:34 PM
Nothing wrong with multiple bikes. The way to accomplish this is patients and persistence.

My neighbor is a doctor with lots of patients and he has many bikes as well ;-)

sharkey
08-12-2009, 02:39 PM
Sell the Wee, buy an older Wee, buy a used FJR.

My thoughts exactly.

Skip Honeycutt
08-12-2009, 03:40 PM
There is always the living room. Then the dining room. And, if you still need more space, the kitchen.

I'll never forget the look on my wife's face the 1st time she saw my house and my 74 Kawasaki 500 was parked in the dining room! (Fast forward 18 months later) When we were married I agreed to move it when we got a garage. It wasn't long before the carport got enclosed and made into a garage! :lol2:

1250Pete
08-25-2009, 07:44 AM
how about this its for sale http://www.twtex.com/photopost/data/500/medium/026.JPG

fortbriscoe
08-25-2009, 09:04 AM
++ on the 1000 V-Strom and used FJR. Then you're ready for anything and wind loads will affect both of these bikes less.

Jchefboyardee
08-25-2009, 09:47 AM
DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT, Let her ride a GOLDWING GL1800! :trust: I'm going to get me a FJR for a second bike......

Tesla
08-29-2009, 05:45 PM
Still lusting but thinking has changed. Wifey is absolutely loving riding and since I want maximum comfort on those long trips why not skip the ST/FJR phase and go directly to the ultimate touring bike which most of us agree is the Goldwing. Yea, I know the jokes....its your grandpas bike, it makes you look old and forget about carving anything resembling a twisty but is there another bike that eats up the miles with this level of comfort for 2? Not to mention the reliability of Honda and their dealers everywhere.

DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT, Let her ride a GOLDWING GL1800! :trust: I'm going to get me a FJR for a second bike......

Why not a true hooligan bike like the Bandit 1250? It even comes in ABS and can be a pretty decent short to mid distance tourer if you should get the desire to take a solo trip. If I were to get a Wing, the need for a hooligan bike becomes even more important. Bandit even has the right name if you like to "rode it like you stole it".

Barry, nothing wrong with that Wee Strom, but when my wife and I did trips on my FJR, that xtra power was MUCH appreciated riding 2-up with the bags and top trunk loaded down whenever we needed to do a quick passing manuver. I considered it a safety feature of the bike! When riding solo I did sometimes wish for something lighter though but it was never really a problem. The FJR is a great bike. 26,000 mile valve adjustment intervals on it are nice too. If you look for a Gen 2 bike (2006 to present), make sure the ignition recall has been done. If it hasn't, it's a no charge update from any dealer.

Craig

Craig, I've read that pillion comfort on the FJR is not as good compared to the ST1300. What about your comfort? Would there be enough leg room for a guy with a 35 inch inseam?

Are you still shopping Barry?

+1 on the FJR. IMHO, it's engine is easily as smooth as the ST1300 and seems to have considerably more giddy-up. I just enjoyed riding it much more than I did the ST. In fact, after the test ride of the ST, it went from high on my short list (based on reviews, etc.) to dropping off the list completely:shrug:.

After test-riding multiple sport-touring bikes (ST1300, R1150RT, C-14, FJRs GenI and GenII, 2003 and 2006 BMW K1200GT), I narrowed it down to a 2007 FJR (GenII is 2006 and newer) and the '06 K1200GT. It became a tough call as I liked them both quite a lot. I opted for the used '07 FJR since it included the extended factory warranty until 11/2012 and the Yammie dealer is right down the road. The nearest BMW dealer is almost 100 miles away. Pity, the K-bike (152hp, Std. Cruise and ABS, Electronic Suspension Adjustment) is very impressive.

Floyd, you've provided some very helpful infomation here. Did you say that you have adequate legroom on the FJR? What is your inseam?

Anyone here happen to know who has the fastest 0-100 times between the FJR vs Bandit 1250 vs Goldwing? Off the top of my head it will be FJR, then Bandit, then Goldwing.

Barry

jnappier
08-29-2009, 06:51 PM
It's all in what your looking for in your riding experience. I have had a couple of wings blow past me. I have read a couple of times taller riders say the wing was a little cramped for them.

DaJudge
09-06-2009, 05:24 PM
Floyd, you've provided some very helpful infomation here. Did you say that you have adequate legroom on the FJR? What is your inseam?

Anyone here happen to know who has the fastest 0-100 times between the FJR vs Bandit 1250 vs Goldwing? Off the top of my head it will be FJR, then Bandit, then Goldwing.

Barry

I've got a 36" inseam. I can flat-foot the Feejer at a stop light with about an inch or more clearance between me and the seat. The bike itself accomodates my 6'2" frame pretty well.:trust: I don't feel scrunched on the FJR like I do on the C-14.

For 0-100 accel, I'd think the FJR and Bandit would be close with the edge probably to the FJR. Either would spank the Wing due to the significant weight advantage.:giveup:

1 wheel peel
09-07-2009, 11:30 AM
..... Wifey is absolutely loving riding and since I want maximum comfort on those long trips why not skip the ST/FJR phase and go directly to the ultimate touring bike which most of us agree is the Goldwing...............forget about carving anything resembling a twisty ....


Anyone here happen to know who has the fastest 0-100 times between the FJR vs Bandit 1250 vs Goldwing?.....

I don't think you could make your pillion any more comfortable than with the wing. As far as carving corners...they do a lot better than their given credit for, it's about learning to use the air ride to your advantage on the corners. Google or you tube "Goldwing video on the dragon" and watch that I think it will change you mind about how the wing handles. The chase bike rider that is doing the video does a great job. Granted it's no sport bike but it will corner.

I don't have any times availabe but in the three you mentioned I'm sure the wing would be dead last. Their was a guy I think on the FJR forum after having owned the Bandit 1250 (fi) said his only disapointment after moving to the FJR was that he felt the Bandit was a little quicker.:shrug:

jrflanne
09-30-2009, 06:02 AM
I had a ST4 and put 14000 miles on it last year. It was a great bike but if you don't do maintenance yourself, Ducs are pretty expensive. Very comfortable. There is a ST4s for sale on Houston Craigslist that looks pretty nice. I switched the ST4 for a Caponord, primarily because I commute from Houston to Dallas a lot and need the storage. I will have another Ducati one of these days.

Trailduster
01-01-2010, 06:27 PM
re the Bandit suggestion's,My wife was not comfortable at all on the Bandit 1250, No leg room for her, Passenger peg's are jacked up like a sport bike, FJRs are blazing fast and have good passenger comfort along with 7 gal's of gas, If you dont go with the Plastic Pig, consider The FJR.

erda
01-03-2010, 04:52 PM
Went from a Wee Strom to a Bandit 1250SEA mainly because of the "wind issue". Never looked back :mrgreen:

Tesla
01-16-2010, 05:19 PM
Sold my Wee!! Yea!! However....I already miss it. Lots of good memories on that bike. I feel a little out of sorts now that my garage is bikeless. Wife was a little down too....she was disappointed that she didn't get to sit on it one last time before I sold it. Having said that I'm excited over getting a new ride. I had my heart set on a FJR that many of you had very positive things to say but then Red and others make very persuasive points in favor of the ST1300. I've ridden neither and hopefully that will settle it but I do take a lot of stock in your feedback and reviews. DaJudge was particularly persuasive in his passion for the FJR partly because he and I are about the same height and inseam. If the BMW R1200RT was cheaper with a larger dealer network, my search would be over.

Thanks for your help. I'll keep updating.

ed29
01-16-2010, 05:50 PM
I love my FJR, but will say that the ST or a Connie 14 would put just as much of a smile on your face as the Feejer will. Since you do ride two up you both need to sit or test ride to be sure.

My Yami has been a blast for 22K+ miles but I am considering replacing it with something more gravel capable. Ironically the Strom is one of the bikes on the short list along with a pre 2007 Tiger.

TWTourist
01-17-2010, 09:52 AM
I currently own a Wing, Bandit 1250. C14 and others. I have own a FJR '05. Here is how I would rate they. Wing #1 for 2up touring. FJR #1 for solo touring or 2up short/mid touring. Bandit for solo short/mid touring and for thw twisties.

But it is just my opion. Yours may be different.

I was going to say keep the wee and buy the FJR for the wife. But I see the wee is gone already.

Tesla
01-17-2010, 11:52 AM
Couldn't keep the Wee. I've seen what happens to you some of you guys once you let Multiple Bike Syndrome take root. The guy that owns Lone Star Motorcyle museum in Vanderpool has an extremely advanced case of it.

TWTourist
01-17-2010, 01:30 PM
I've seen what happens to you some of you guys once you let Multiple Bike Syndrome take root. The guy that owns Lone Star Motorcyle museum in Vanderpool has an extremely advanced case of it.

Barry,

You say that as if it was a bad thing. :shame::shame::-P

Tesla
01-25-2010, 04:53 PM
Rented an ST1300 from Sport Ryder yesterday. Did 25 miles solo and 100 with wifey on board. Very impressed overall with the bike. Strong and smooth engine, shifting, clutching, wind protection, throttle response and comfort were top notch. Wife liked it even more than I did. Not crazy about the mirrors (couldn't see directly behind me), exhaust note is boring and it seems to have a subtle steering shake.....it was difficult to hold a line while going in a straight line, however, cornering felt better than expected. The riding position was almost perfect for me (if it had risers it would be). The stock seat was a pleasant surprise, it was actually more comfortable than the Sargent I had on the V-Strom. Time to spend some time with an FJR now. Is it possible to duplicate or improve the upright rider position on the FJR that the ST has? This is a big concern for me since my shoulder starts bothering me if I'm leaned over for anything more than 200 miles or so.

Does anyone know of a dealer that has an FJR AND an ST in their showroom? That would be informative to compare them up close.

jnappier
01-25-2010, 07:40 PM
I have the matching top box with the arm rests, my wife likes my ST1300 very much and will not let me get rid of it. So much so that when I mentioned I wanted a cruiser she said ok but don't get rid of the Honda. I have the bar risers and have had gel put in the seat. I don't care for thr jetson sounding exhaust but loud would get old on long trips. I have put 10,000 miles on the bike with nothing but oil changes and 1 set of tires.

All that being said I would like to own a FJR. I'm not ready for a big wing yet.