more 2010 Hondas Sep 4th

[Jbay]

http://www.hondanews.com/categories/3/releases/5182

The Shadow® Phantom: Clean lines and cool looks influenced by "bobber" styling.

Shadow Phantom:
The Shadow® Phantom delivers a uniquely clean and uncluttered look accented by an extensive blackout treatment, bringing motorcyclists back to the core essence of cool. With a torquey 745cc V-twin engine featuring the convenience of a new sophisticated Programmed Fuel Injection, the Shadow Phantom brings the joy of back-to-basics riding within reach of just about every rider. Available in Black. In dealerships—November 2009. MSRP: $7999.00

The only true lightweight touring bike on the market, the new NT700V also does double duty as the perfect choice for the daily commute.

NT700V:
If you're looking for a fully equipped yet lightweight touring machine that's fun, easy to ride and ready to carry you to work and play seven days a week, look no farther than the new NT700V. Fully outfitted and ready to roll, the NT700V can turn your daily commute into riding bliss and then carry you off on that weekend adventure. With a stylish and functional fairing, interlinked saddlebags, a strong 680cc V-twin engine and more, the NT700V is ready for any journey you can dream up. Standard model is available in Metallic Red and Metallic Silver colors. ABS model is available in Metallic Silver color only. In dealerships—November 2009. MSRP: $9999.00
ABS model $10.999.00

Again in 2010, Honda's sport bikes lead the way in performance, fit and finish, and style.

CBR1000RR:
How do you improve upon the machine rated best by one magazine after the other, a revolutionary literbike that's the lightest, best handling, most compact and highest performing sport bike to be found? Last year we made the CBR1000RR available with our high-tech electronically controlled Combined ABS for the ultimate in sophisticated sport bike braking performance, and the new 2010 model adds exciting new graphics plus engine changes that provide an even smoother power delivery. Exciting new colors include Pearl Orange/Light Metallic Silver and Red/Black. C-ABS model available in Black only. Dealer availability and MSRP: TBD

CBR600RR:
No other 600cc machine has won more magazine comparisons and AMA championships than Honda's CBR600RR. Striking the ideal balance of power and handling, the new CBR600RR blends a light and compact chassis with impeccable power delivery for a combination that's hard to beat. Also available with the Honda's unique Combined ABS for the pinnacle of sport bike braking performance, the 2010 CBR600RR continues to set the standard for the middleweight class. Exciting new colors: Pearl Orange/Black and Leyla, an exciting new special custom graphic. C-ABS model available in Red/Black only. Dealer availability and MSRP: TBD

[Jbay]

http://www.motorcyclingmag.com/files/2010_Honda_NT700V_Motorcycle%202.jpg

[Jbay]

the Deauville NT700V and Transalp XL700V have the same engine :ponder:

[dukey33]

:ponder:

How light is "lightweight"? How much hp from the little 680-V ? Looks nice. Typical clean Honda lines.

[WoodButcher]

Hmm, so they bring the NT700V over but not the XL700V. Figures.

[RedPill]

I like the look of the NT700V. Now if it just had forward controls . . .

I know, it's not that kind of bike. But that's the kind of knees I have . . .

[1TallTXn]

:ponder:

How light is "lightweight"? How much hp from the little 680-V ? Looks nice. Typical clean Honda lines.
Assuming they are the same bike from 2009 (looks the same)
Its 520lbs dry and produces 65hp and 48ft/lbs of torque.
Source (http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/honda_nt700v_deauville_2009.php)

Looks like they have a typo on the 2007 specs, I'd love 108hp out of a 680cc v-twin :rider:
link (http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/honda_nt700v_deauville_2007.php)

[1TallTXn]

Not bad for a solo-tourer. Prolly a little short on power for 2-up, but it'd do it if you wanted.

The bags appear to feature a pass-through area between them for stowing longer items.
Heated grips, DC power, ABS, and a top-box are among the options

Not bad for $11k

[1TallTXn]

And just what might we expect for this little tid bit?

...This sets the stage for a great year in 2010 and there will be additional street model announcements later this fall.

[Chirpy]

http://z.about.com/d/motorcycles/1/0/L/o/-/-/Honda_Shadow_Phantom.jpg
Only Phantom picture so far....

Bigger pictures here... (http://www.motorcyclingmag.com/2010_Honda_Shadow_Phantom_Motorcycle_Preview)

Wow, American Honda brings over a 10 year old Eurocommuter. Stop the presses.

[aks801]

ST1300-lite. For that amount of coin, I just don't see that moving a whole lot.

[bmcdonau]

http://z.about.com/d/motorcycles/1/0/L/o/-/-/Honda_Shadow_Phantom.jpg
Only Phantom picture so far....

Bigger pictures here... (http://www.motorcyclingmag.com/2010_Honda_Shadow_Phantom_Motorcycle_Preview)

Wow, American Honda brings over a 10 year old Eurocommuter. Stop the presses.


That's the most Harley looking Honda yet.

[bigboy292000]

ST1300-lite. For that amount of coin, I just don't see that moving a whole lot.

I'd agree. I don't see it either. For just a little more, you are looking at the Tiger instead... I guess this is supposed to compete with... hmmm I dunno... a 1K V-Strom? (even though even a 650 Wee makes more power)

I think they'd do better bringing XL700V (http://ww1.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/DispatcherServlet?hidActionDetail=viewproductdetai l&hidAction=Lookup&hidProductID=109&hidSelectedProductCode=XL700V+Transalp+ABS&hidProductName=XL700V+Transalp+ABS&hidMSGID=1&hidMSGCode=ADVENTURE&hidMSGName=Adventure&hidBannerPath=%2FmcStatic%2Fen%2Fpicture%2Fproduct %2FXL700V+Transalp+ABS%2Fprd_main_Banner.jpg&hidHomePath=%2Fjsp%2FmsgADVENTUREHome.jsp#focusHer e) here instead.

[bmwonder]

My friend had a Deuville for years. He put nearly 100k miles on it. I can happily say it was one of the dullest, yet greatest, machines I ever rode. It needs no maintenance, will cruise at 85mph all day every day and has an engine that seems to make it's own fuel. Has fantastic build quality....and it's even shaft drive! This bike will send you to sleep, but it doesn't matter cause even if it does it will still get you home!

[bmwonder]

http://www.hondanews.com/categories/3/releases/5182
CBR1000RR:
How do you improve upon the machine rated best by one magazine after the other, a revolutionary literbike that's the lightest, best handling, most compact and highest performing sport bike to be found?


EASY!!!!!! Give us the HRC color scheme like the rest of the world gets!!!!! GRRRRR! I would have bought one if they gave us this. I know that we are a nation of sport bike hating red necks who don't really appreciate the beauty of a modern engine and prefer our steam powered cruisers.......but hey! If we had access to all those bikes that Honda deams fit for the rest of the world then maybe we would change????

Some bikes that we don't get........

http://www.visordown.com/news/images/HRC_BLADE_1.jpg

a naked Fireblade....how cool is this? And it's nearly 2 years old now. When will we see it?

http://www.cubiccapacity.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/2008-honda-cb1000r.jpg

[Wayne Meuir]

Isn't 520 lbs, dry a little porky for a 650? I think the Wee Strom weighs about 460 or something close to that.

Wayne

[Wes]

Wow the dash on the NT700V is hideous. Why is honda using the same dash from a 1984 accord on a sport bike. :doh:

[bmwonder]

Easy - cause the bike dates back to 1984 and it's more like driving a car than riding a bike. As for the extra weight, probably accounted for by the built-in luggage and shaft drive. As previously stated, this bike is not going to set your pants on fire, but as a daily commuter, come rain or shine, or a cheaper tourer this bike has no equals. You want a bland, do-everything bike......this is it!

[innominate]

a naked Fireblade....how cool is this? And it's nearly 2 years old now. When will we see it?

http://www.cubiccapacity.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/2008-honda-cb1000r.jpg


oh, me want

[Wes]

Buy a used FJR and skip the new bike payment and get something sexy. That bike is so bland it's painfull.

[bmwonder]

Buy a used FJR and skip the new bike payment and get something sexy. That bike is so bland it's painfull.

Not bad advice. FJRs go on forever and ever. But it does feel like a much bigger bike than the Dullsville. Another alternative is the Yam FZ1. Put some hard luggage on that and I reckon it's a better tourer/all-rounder than anything out there. Ex R1 motor de-tuned with masses of torque, sensible all-day riding position and a decent screen. That would be my choice if I had a lot of miles to cover and I didn't have too much cash.

[bmwonder]

oh, me want

I know...I know..... I would have bought one of those instead of my SuperDuke. It just sucks that we will never see any of these bikes. Will they not import them casue we won't buy them or will we not buy them cause they won't import them? Chicken and Egg!!!! There's a whole list of great bikes from all the manufacturers that sell in truck loads in Europe that, for some reason, we are deemed unworthy. GRRRRR! Sorry Rant mode OFF.

[Wes]

bmwonder: Good point.

Is it just me and my personal grudge against Honda for all the headaches they have caused me over the years, or have their bikes just been overly dull lately. I just don't get excited to see a Honda like I would any other bike? I did like the 599 though.

[Calgary-Yogi]

Rode a Deauville in Scotland for 7 days this year.
IMHO : Spend your money on a 650 Strom way better bike

[sharkey]

Easy - cause the bike dates back to 1984 and it's more like driving a car than riding a bike. As for the extra weight, probably accounted for by the built-in luggage and shaft drive. As previously stated, this bike is not going to set your pants on fire, but as a daily commuter, come rain or shine, or a cheaper tourer this bike has no equals. You want a bland, do-everything bike......this is it!

Ha, I always wanted one of these. I guess deep down, I'm a bore. :mrgreen:

[1TallTXn]

Yeah, the Honda's that have come state side lately have been a bit on the bland side (excluding the CBR/CRF lines)
I would love to see Honda bring over more of their sensible bikes that they sell everywhere else.
CB400? Yes please, what a great commuter bike. good mileage, decent power, upright ergos, simple to maintain, minimal damage in a drop situation. But no, we don't get those here. :argh:
And thats just one example of many.

Its nice to see the Deauville as a sensible touring/commuting machine.

[Thurmont]

I gotta say I really like the "blacked-out" look on most any bike. And this new Honda is pretty good looking, IMHO. The matte finish on the forks, turn signals, and headlight assembly ROCK. I like the shaft drive and the EFI. The seat looks more like the Corbin Stinger I added to my 2002 Shadow ACE not too long ago then my old OEM seat. Maybe a Honda engineer saw my bike on the street somewhere and made the change. :lol2:

I'm unsure about that massive front tire. Wish it had a rear disc brake. And I'm not crazy about the chrome exhaust, it stands out on a bike that doesn't have chrome anywhere else.

Some specs on it (http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/623/4503/Motorcycle-Article/2010-Honda-Shadow-Phantom-First-Look.aspx)

A few more pics of it here. (http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/44111/Motorcycle-Photo-Gallery-Photo/2010-Honda-Shadow-Phantom.aspx)
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/PhotoGallerys/2010_Phantom.jpg
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/PhotoGallerys/10_Honda_Shadow_Phantom.jpg

[KitNYC]

I love the pass-through in the D'eauville's luggage, but it takes some cojones (and a complete lack of ethics) to call anything that weighs in at 566 pounds wet a lightweight. A Kawasaki Versys with a set of Givis would be in the same ballpark power-wise, weigh 100 pounds less, and leave a good $2k in your bank account even after the luggage.

I'm not tempted to trade in my Sprint on one, that's for sure!

Cheers,
-The other Kit

[ColGoodnight]

...as a daily commuter, come rain or shine, or a cheaper tourer this bike has no equals.

Daily rain/shine commuter & cheaper tourer? Looks to me like Honda charges an extra $1500 to throw your leg over the tank (http://www.suzukicycles.com/Product%20Lines/Cycles/Products/Burgman%20650/2009/AN650.aspx).

Tom

[DaveC]

Given that I like a bike with some character, for the money I prefer this Norge

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m18/dcarter001/misc/DCarter-MotoGuzzi.jpg

to the NT700
http://www.motorcyclingmag.com/files/2010_Honda_NT700V_Motorcycle%202.jpg

[Jbay]

http://www.youtube.com/v/0H2NQvkeKMw&hl=en&fs=1&

[leekellerking]

Why can't they make this bike with mid-mount pegs and a slightly higher seat???


I gotta say I really like the "blacked-out" look on most any bike. And this new Honda is pretty good looking, IMHO. The matte finish on the forks, turn signals, and headlight assembly ROCK. I like the shaft drive and the EFI. The seat looks more like the Corbin Stinger I added to my 2002 Shadow ACE not too long ago then my old OEM seat. Maybe a Honda engineer saw my bike on the street somewhere and made the change. :lol2:

I'm unsure about that massive front tire. Wish it had a rear disc brake. And I'm not crazy about the chrome exhaust, it stands out on a bike that doesn't have chrome anywhere else.

Some specs on it (http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/623/4503/Motorcycle-Article/2010-Honda-Shadow-Phantom-First-Look.aspx)

A few more pics of it here. (http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/44111/Motorcycle-Photo-Gallery-Photo/2010-Honda-Shadow-Phantom.aspx)
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/PhotoGallerys/2010_Phantom.jpg
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/PhotoGallerys/10_Honda_Shadow_Phantom.jpg

[sharkey]

Well, I thought the Fury was off the mark as was DN01 but I gotta say, I like the dark Shadow and think the chrome pipes set it apart.

I went to the Honda site tonite and gotta say, the Dullville hits the mark for some like myself. It's a ST1300 lite. Price wise at 10K without ABS is ok. I'll test ride one and go from there. Rack up the miles, FI, huge tank, ABS, bags, decent weather protection, and minimal maintenance costs. What's not to like?
Let's remember that the PC800 sold very poorly but now has a cult like following.

Now I just need a job.

[kurt]

Word has it that the ST1300 won't be produced in 2010 pending a wheels up replacement in 2011. :trust: Maybe they are listening after all.

[tomf16]

I want to know how they get that Shadow to stay upright with no kickstand. ;-)

[sharkey]

I want to know how they get that Shadow to stay upright with no kickstand. ;-)

Invisible centerstand IS an option. :rofl:

[Wes]

They have Chris Angel to it with his mind! :eek2::eek2:

[innominate]

jessica alba is straddling it naked. u just cant see her cuz she's the invisible girl

[bmwonder]

Invisible centerstand IS an option. :rofl:

Naaa! Given it's a Honda they have probably developed their own in-house gyro system. If any company can invent fantastically complicated solutions to problems that don't exist its Honda (VFR800 variable valves????)

[1TallTXn]

Naaa! Given it's a Honda they have probably developed their own in-house gyro system. If any company can invent fantastically complicated solutions to problems that don't exist its Honda (VFR800 variable valves????)

Correction, the VFR8002(2002+) does not have variable valves. It has a 2nd set that opens at a specified RPM. Its either using them or not, there is no variation in their timing. Thus the VTEC name is incorrectly applied to these bikes.

[bmwonder]

Correction, the VFR8002(2002+) does not have variable valves. It has a 2nd set that opens at a specified RPM. Its either using them or not, there is no variation in their timing. Thus the VTEC name is incorrectly applied to these bikes.

You are a perfect Honda owner! ;-)

[patricjft]

Word has it that the ST1300 won't be produced in 2010 pending a wheels up replacement in 2011. :trust: Maybe they are listening after all.

The latest Motorcyclist magazine said there is a rumor around that the ST will be replaced by a more touring oriented version of the VFR1200 that is coming out.

[bmwonder]

that would make a lot of sense....and a very nice motorcycle

[Chirpy]

Considering that my first 12 motorcycles were all Hondas, it saddens me greatly to say that I've almost gotten to the point where I can't imagine they'd ever import something I'd like to own.

[Katoom]

I know...I know..... I would have bought one of those instead of my SuperDuke. It just sucks that we will never see any of these bikes. Will they not import them casue we won't buy them or will we not buy them cause they won't import them? Chicken and Egg!!!! There's a whole list of great bikes from all the manufacturers that sell in truck loads in Europe that, for some reason, we are deemed unworthy. GRRRRR! Sorry Rant mode OFF.

There is a nice article in the new CW mag about this bike. Gives a good explanation as to why it's not here yet. Basicly the bike was made for the european market and produced in Italy (like the 599) so price point in the USA becomes the issue. They also ride it in the Alp's and love it for it's balance. I have to tell you, as I read the article and thought about how it would stack up to the SD I think for me it would be no contest. You own the better bike IMO

[bmwonder]

Okay. Good answer. Thanks. I'm not sure I like the "made for the European market" bit though. I have seen that phrase lots of times in magazines (nearly always US ones). Like somehow European riders are different and can appreciate the finer points of riding like feedback and handling whereas over here all we appreciate is big lumps of V-twin iron which make tractor look like advanced technology.

....hhmmmm....maybe they have a point after all.


Still loving the SD btw. The chasis is great but a 1000cc twin is a different beast to a 1000cc IL4. It's a real scream to ride and feels really frisky compared to my CBR (which feels totally planted), although the CBR is still faster.

[coupe930]

Like somehow European riders are different and can appreciate the finer points of riding like feedback and handling whereas over here all we appreciate is big lumps of V-twin iron which make tractor look like advanced technology.

....hhmmmm....maybe they have a point after all.

Don't be bad mouthing my Ford tractor. It is a manufacturing mix of Japanese and Italian. 3 cylinder diesel, 4 wheel drive with 12 speeds forward and 3 speeds in reverse. To make it more American they paint it blue and put Ford decals on it. I guess decals are the pinnacle of U.S. manufacturing today.

Pat McDonald