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Multisurface Rider
12-17-2009, 08:28 PM
Ok riders, what do you think of these bikes compared to all the others, Opposed twins, V-twins & Parallel twins?

Versys
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/MultisurfaceRider/Custom%20DS%20Versys%20%20Ninja%20650R/moddedversys.jpg

Ninja 650R
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/MultisurfaceRider/Custom%20DS%20Versys%20%20Ninja%20650R/DualSportNinja2.jpg

Ninja 650R
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/MultisurfaceRider/Custom%20DS%20Versys%20%20Ninja%20650R/DualSportNinja.jpg




I got the pictures over at ADV, here is a link to a different kind of Versys.


http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=319441

Bear on a bicycle
12-17-2009, 08:46 PM
Are you thinking of trying this yourself?

Multisurface Rider
12-17-2009, 09:10 PM
Are you thinking of trying this yourself?


I thought that would be the first question and the answer is: well, you never know.:shrug: I would have to eyeball the bikes real hard before transformation. I do like the idea thou!

Bear on a bicycle
12-17-2009, 09:34 PM
I have a Versys, but mine is staying stock. Fun bike. The Versys motor is tuned a little more for low/mid power compared to the Ninja. Other than being a little heavy for a dirt bike, I think it would work. Those guys seem to think so...

Multisurface Rider
12-17-2009, 09:49 PM
It does not have to be a dirt bike, but it would have to be able to handle what ever comes along. I am thinking a glorified GS???

Bear on a bicycle
12-17-2009, 10:28 PM
I don't know about glorified, but with a little money, patience & creativity I think you can do it. The Versys just needs tires & maybe a skid plate, & I think it could handle a lot of off road stuff.

landman650r
12-19-2009, 03:33 AM
I'll go with Ninja 650r

I like the engine more!

JacknTexas
12-19-2009, 03:54 AM
Some riders prefer the old GSXR 1100 for a platform. (http://www.topspeed.com/motorcycles/motorcycle-news/suzuki-gsx-r-1100-dirt-bike-ar72909.html) :clap:

http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop/200904/suzuki-gsx-r-1100-di-5_460x0w.jpg

bjhughes
12-19-2009, 09:55 AM
The Versys has a more dirtbike look to it. Still heavy, but probably decent for [larger] trails and fire roads.

The Ninja version looks more a GS clone...and it looks heavier. If going this route, just buy the GS and do it right.

gotdurt
12-19-2009, 03:16 PM
The geometry & ergos of the Versys are probably a lot better suited than the Ninja for such a conversion. Maybe that's what I ought to do with my CB750 :trust:

Multisurface Rider
02-07-2010, 02:41 PM
Hey Bear, how does your bike handle on good gravel and dirt roads? Tell me more if you don't mind.


I don't know about glorified, but with a little money, patience & creativity I think you can do it. The Versys just needs tires & maybe a skid plate, & I think it could handle a lot of off road stuff.

Bear on a bicycle
02-07-2010, 03:42 PM
Hey Bear, how does your bike handle on good gravel and dirt roads? Tell me more if you don't mind.

Honestly, I've not ridden it on dirt or gravel. I bought it strictly for street use. But there are a few guys that ride 'em everywhere. I've read a few threads on the Versys forum where guys are riding the Versys on dirt & gravel roads. I would think it will handle dirt roads just fine, and gravel, like sand, would depend more on the rider, but I can't see a reason it would handle poorly, other than tires.

I see you're in San Antonio. If you want to ride mine, I'd be more than willing to meet up some time. Shot me a PM!

Multisurface Rider
02-08-2015, 07:45 AM
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/MultisurfaceRider/20150207_082335_zps17b063e9.jpeg


I finally built one. Versys Adventure.

I did a little 277 mile ride yesterday and nothing fell off, thats a good sign. Dirt roads, pavement, slow and fast the Versys handeled everything perfect. I'm surprized it did not have any adverse affects from the conversion, I really expected something to feel out of place.

I have been reading the build threads and taking notes for 5+ years. I sold my KLR650 and my DR650 to buy the Versys and then the build began.

Hope you like it.

MaxxTraxx
02-08-2015, 08:26 AM
Why don't they build the Versey like that to begin with? Looks awesome.

JQ1.0
02-08-2015, 08:36 AM
Versys in the dirt at Crooked Creek. Will give you an idea of what the bike is capable of. This one is stock.
http://www.twtex.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92829

ed29
02-08-2015, 02:46 PM
The Versys is decent off pavement stock, even with 17" cast wheels on both ends. The taller suspension on the same frame as the Ninja gives it a bit more clearance and helps with ledges and stuff off pavement.

Mine saw a lot of unpaved miles on the roads around Terlingua. A skid plate is a must, but there is no frame under the engine to mount it to. I counted myself lucky that no harm came to the oil filter or crankcase from the rocks I heard ping off of them.

On smoother dirt roads it is a blast. Drifts like a natural flat track racer when pushed in the curves.

Hotboot
02-08-2015, 07:56 PM
Kawasaki got it right with the geometry and balance on the Versys, a few gravel-dirt-sand roads I rode in Arkansas were fine. It's a tad heavy but an experienced rider should have no issues.

200 miles of some warm sunshine on my '13 today, sad to think I may be trading it on the FJ. Love this V bike !

Multisurface Rider
02-08-2015, 08:21 PM
Thanks guys

I really like the bike, it's fun to ride.:rider:

I raised it over stock, rear 2 1/2", front 3 1/4". I want to make the numbers the same. The rear can't go any higher, so I will probably lower the forks. It does handle very good the way it is. I do think that is would be best for front and rear to be the same.

ed29
02-08-2015, 11:06 PM
I agree. Raising the front more than the back will fool with the rake and trail which will alter the handling. It is pretty neutral stock and very predictable in loose stuff.

Multisurface Rider
02-09-2015, 07:06 AM
The DRZ400 forks have a leading front axle (I think that is what it is called) and the Versys is not, and the 3/4" difference in front/rear. I thought it would handle a bit different, but I can't tell one way or another. Maybe it's just me, I just don't understand rake and trail enough to know how it should handle with these changes compared to stock.

I thought it would steer slower in the curves and be more stable at speed. Is this correct?

It handled great on my ride Saturday, no surprises like I was expecting, that I could tell anyway. I rode it on gravel roads and pavement at a good pace, I thought it did very good, felt stable at all times.

Jeff S
02-09-2015, 09:18 AM
I've got the 19" front on mine also, but with stock suspension / travel.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-cGhBXY36HSQ/VNDbVAiCQ1I/AAAAAAAAFn4/D6dgORT4kGk/s640/_1160012.jpg

What forks do you have up front?

Are you content with the low front fender? Mine's about 1.5 " above stock and it's still too close when things get even a little muddy...

Multisurface Rider
02-09-2015, 10:30 AM
I've got the 19" front on mine also, but with stock suspension / travel.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-cGhBXY36HSQ/VNDbVAiCQ1I/AAAAAAAAFn4/D6dgORT4kGk/s640/_1160012.jpg

What forks do you have up front?

Are you content with the low front fender? Mine's about 1.5 " above stock and it's still too close when things get even a little muddy...

Nice bike.

I am using DRZ400 forks.

Yes, I am content with the low fender.

Multisurface Rider
02-22-2015, 09:49 AM
I road another 296 miles yesterday and the bike preformed perfect. I really expected it to handle a little different with the front being 3/4" higher than the rear. I just can't tell. :zen:

I am liking my Versys Adventure, its a fun little big bike. Its no KLR on gravel or dirt and no GS on pavement. It fits quite well right in the middle, munches both gravel and pavement. Way better than the GS on gravel and way better than the KLR on pavement.

If Kawasaki built this bike hoping riders would change up the suspension, they did right, fantastic Adventure bike.