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Toying with the idea of taking off sometime this month for a week of riding in Nevada / Utah / Arizona on the ST1300. Am looking at a few places in Mesquite which seems like a good middle point to get a few day trips out to Vegas, Zion, Grand Canyon, etc.

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q....415982,-113.123474&spn=1.241222,2.903137&z=9

Any good rides? Suggestions on why this would be a bad ride? Places I should stop on the way there or back? Thanks!

If anyone wants to join me send me a PM haha...
 
I lived in Henderson, NV for ten years and I can tell you the pickings are pretty poor and anything worthy is a long way off. I left in March 2010, so my knowledge is pretty recent.

First up, staying in Mesquite seems "central" but you are stuck with only two ways to go--north on I-15 or south on I-15. I take it you will be on the cruiser in the avatar? (edit: I re-read your post and saw the reference to the ST:oops:) So, big twisties will not be your main concern (just a guess). Weather should also be considered as Mesquite and both directions on I-15 for quite some distance is desert. In summer, expect temperatures exceeding 100°F to be the norm.

Going north into Utah is the better choice of the two. Beware of the Utah State troopers who lie in wait for the un-suspecting just entering their state, so watch your speed.

I consider the part of I-15 between Littlefield, AZ and the Utah border to be very Dolomite like in that the geography is right next to the road. Cliff faces, hundreds of feet straight up on both sides of the road.

Speaking of Littlefield, there is a road from there that circles its way around to St. George, I have not been on it, but might be worth a look.

Zion is very expensive to enter for only about 20 miles of road, $25 per vehicle. I never paid the price, so my knowledge of Zion is non-existent really.

A really nice ride might be for you to head for Dixie National Forest, east of Cedar City. All of the roads are paved (not sure about 148 though), lots of trees and very high elevation. You will go above 10,000 ft., so be ready for that. I put a post of the (all) day ride I did in August 2009 on the Aprilia forum that will give you an idea of what you will see. We did not go through Zion, but took the rather mundane route of UT59/AZ389 into Fredonia, Arizona (Hail! Hail Fredonia!). Between Hurricane and Fredonia you will see areas of habitation that will make you wonder why anyone would want to live there! If you take US89 south out of Fredonia, you will be heading for the North Rim of the Grand Canyon when you turn on to AZ67 at Jacob Lake. I know nothing of gas stations along that route, sadly. But the North Rim is not as heavily visited as the South Rim and it does give a different view.

Points south: Okay, there is Vegas, The Strip is The Strip with free parking at any property on The Strip. You pay to park downtown. There is a road called "Frank Sinatra" sandwiched between the I-15 and the various Strip properties next to I-15--use it! Drive The Strip once, only to say that you have and then never do it again! The Strip officially runs from Russell Road on the south end (Mandalay Bay) to Sahara Ave. on the north (Sahara Hotel/Casino closes on or about 16 May, Vegas is really feeling the pain of the economy. I should know, I'm one of the many people that were let go). There is another road that runs behind the properties on the east side of Las Vegas Blvd. called "Audrie," look for it too.

On the way to Vegas is the Valley of Fire, just a little sight seeing there with rocks that seem to be "on fire," hence the name.

Red Rock Canyon, at the foot of the mountains on the west side of Vegas is very busy and only good for the sights, not much else.

Mt. Charleston is a nice escape from the heat of Vegas as the road climbs above 8500 feet, but it is heavily patrolled by you-know-who which really cramps a persons riding style. Also, there are no gas stations in Mt. Charleston, so be sure you have enough before leaving US95.

Death Valley is not that far beyond Vegas, but going there at any time other than winter on a motorcycle is pure folly.

North of Vegas, on US93 is the junction of NV375, "The Extraterrestrial Highway" and the rather infamous road entry into "Area 51." My brother and I did this trip in the car. The road itself is this very long stretch of gravel road that is very well maintained (a dead give away), but kicks up a ton of dust. It may not look it, but it is over 13 miles before you get to the "no trespassing" signs and the white Chevy Avalanche (it is not a Jeep Cherokee anymore) parked on the hillside. That hillside spot also lets them see the road you just took and with the dust that is kicked up...... The signs warning of the use of "deadly force" are gone, but the intimidation level remains rather high. If you can swing it, 30 miles north of the gravel road on 375 is the town of Rachel, go if you can, especially at night! You don't know what you might see....in the air or on the ground. ;)

Finally, Hoover Dam. I left before the dam bypass bridge was complete, so there should be an exit (or something) that will take you on old US93 down to it. Take the "hard hat" tour as I found it fun and it does take you down to the generator houses at the bottom.
 
I used to live in the four corners area (NM, AZ, UT, and CO) Many of the back highways are pretty amazing. One of my favorites is Highway 12 and 25 in southern Utah. You get mountains, canyons, and incredible views all along a nice twisty highway.
 
Our vacation last year was a one week tour of AZ/UT. Jacob Lake, North Rim of the Grand Canyon, Zion, Bryce, etc...

You can read my Road Trip Report here...
http://www.twtex.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49454

You can also do a search for threads started by me in the Story Telling sub-forum for other trips in and around Arizona.
 
"Zion is very expensive to enter for only about 20 miles of road, $25 per vehicle. I never paid the price, so my knowledge of Zion is non-existent really."

Zion at $25 is a bargain. It is awesome. You could spend a week in Zion and be in awe every day. Just the ride through is worth $25. However, it won't cost you that much if you are alone on the bike. From the Zion park's website:

"Motorcycle: $12. Valid for 7 days.Admits one individual on a private, non-commercial motorcycle to Zion National Park including both the Zion Canyon and Kolob Canyon areas. Any passengers pay the per person fee not to exceed the private vehicle fee of $25."
Passenger fee is also $12.

Bryce canyon is simply spectacular.
 
I used to live in the four corners area (NM, AZ, UT, and CO) Many of the back highways are pretty amazing. One of my favorites is Highway 12 and 25 in southern Utah. You get mountains, canyons, and incredible views all along a nice twisty highway.

What he/she said +1.
 
One of my favorites is Highway 12 and 25 in southern Utah. You get mountains, canyons, and incredible views all along a nice twisty highway.
Here is a dim view of 12... note the twisty down below. Most of that entire section is up/down/left/right/repeat with a section running right along the spine of a ridge. No guardrails and a long way down on either side.
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I might also suggest making your base camp in Springerville, AZ. Lots of good riding from that spot in most any direction and the cooler elevations will be more enjoyable.

1. S on 191 / 180 to Alpine. E on 180 into NM and take that S all the way to 78 and then take 78 E back into AZ. Some great riding on 78 right as you hit the NM/AZ border. Continue on 78 until you hit the 191 and take that north to Clifton / Morenci. Morenci is the 2nd largest open pit copper mine in the world and the base of Devil's Highway. Continue north on 191 (1100+ curves and turns in the next 91 miles) until you get back home to Springerville. Stop about half way at Hannigan Meadow and have a root beer and relax. Stop at the Bear Wallow in Alpine for one of their great burgers but leave your cell phone outside.

2. Take 191 S from Springerville all the way back to Clifton and remain on 191 going SW until you hit the 191 / 70 going into Safford. Continue on the 191 S until you hit the 366 and then ride the 366 up Mt Graham. Return to Safford and then decide if you have the stamina to climb the 191 again. If not, take 70 to the NW all the way to Globe. Take the 60 / 77 NE out of Globe and you'll soon be riding the famous Salt River Canyon, a favorite playground for the Phoenix area riders. Continue up into Show Low and then take the 60 or the 260 back east to Springerville.

3. Take 60 NW from Springerville to Show Low and then the 260 W to Heber and continue west to the Rim Road / Woods Lake Canyon. Take this side trip and ride along the edge of the Mogollon Rim back to the lake and then return back to 260. Continue west into Payson and then take 87 / 260 north. Have lunch at the Rimside Grill just before you reach Pine, or continue on until you hit Strawberry and eat at the Strawberry Lodge. Be sure to try the strawberry pie if it is in season. Best I've ever had. Take 260 W from Strawberry all the way to I-17. From there it is a quick blast up to Flagstaff. Find the exit for Lake Mary Road and take that south until you hit 87 again and then go N on 87 to Winslow and stand on the corner. Blast E on I-40 at that point to Holbrook, and then go SW on 180 to St Johns and then 191 S back to Springerville.

Some of these would be long days in the saddle and some of the roads (Devil's Highway / 191, the Mt Graham ride, and the Salt River Canyon) can be fairly technical. I don't know your level of experience or endurance so you would need to judge for yourself how many miles you want to put on in a day.
 
"Zion is very expensive to enter for only about 20 miles of road, $25 per vehicle. I never paid the price, so my knowledge of Zion is non-existent really."

Zion at $25 is a bargain. It is awesome. You could spend a week in Zion and be in awe every day. Just the ride through is worth $25. However, it won't cost you that much if you are alone on the bike. From the Zion park's website:

"Motorcycle: $12. Valid for 7 days.Admits one individual on a private, non-commercial motorcycle to Zion National Park including both the Zion Canyon and Kolob Canyon areas. Any passengers pay the per person fee not to exceed the private vehicle fee of $25."
Passenger fee is also $12.

Bryce canyon is simply spectacular.

To each his own.

Here is a dim view of 12... note the twisty down below. Most of that entire section is up/down/left/right/repeat with a section running right along the spine of a ridge. No guardrails and a long way down on either side.
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I took UT12 to get to SLC from Vegas for WSBK in 2008. Some random shots.

The first two are of I-15 in Arizona, the "Dolomites" section
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Now comes US89 and UT12
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Bryce:
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This is actually US89, but I saw signs like this many times on this trip.
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Awesome. Thanks for the road suggestions and suggested places to base off. Is it going to be unbearably hot if I don't get out to make this trip till August?
 
Awesome. Thanks for the road suggestions and suggested places to base off. Is it going to be unbearably hot if I don't get out to make this trip till August?

August will be the worst, in the desert. High temperatures and high humidity which breed the "monsoon" season. It depends on just how tolerant you are of the heat. I still get "aren't you hot?" questions wearing my full leathers, but it isn't that hot out to me.

For the areas T mentions, most is higher elevation (5000 ft & up), so the temperatures won't be as bad.

Another ride is from Wickenburg up AZ89 to Prescott, 89A to Sedona thru Jerome, the town that time forgot, and finishing at the Flagstaff airport or vise versa. Not an easy "day ride" from Springerville.
 
Another ride is from Wickenburg up AZ89 to Prescott, 89A to Sedona thru Jerome, the town that time forgot, and finishing at the Flagstaff airport or vise versa. Not an easy "day ride" from Springerville.

Agreed. Unless you have to, I'd float day by day and end up at different locations. That will give you MUCH more flexibility in your riding schedule.

Here's a link to one of my videos climbing the Yarnell hill on the back way to Prescott.
http://youtu.be/aZBq8GgvDR4

89 from Wickenburg to Prescott will take you through two favorite areas for the AZ riders, the above mentioned Yarnell Hill which as you will see in the video is a series of great sweepers ending at the Ranch House Restaurant at the top, and then the "Spars" after that coming into Prescott. The Spars are much more twisty at much lower speeds. If you don't eat at the Ranch House there are numerous small places to eat around the courthouse square in Prescott proper, or you can wait until you get into Jerome to eat.

THESE are shots of the Devil's Highway ride.

THESE are shots of the Mt Graham ride.

THESE shots include some of the Salt River Canyon ride.

THESE include various shots in northern AZ including Prescott, Jerome, Cottonwood, Lakeside, Globe, Salt River Canyon, etc.

As you can see, Arizona has a lot to offer in riding opportunities. Go to www.gl1800riders.com, then to the Arizona sub-forum and review many of the threads where people request info on rides within the state. If you are coming out here in August I highly recommend that you stay in the higher elevations of the state. Use Google Earth to review your proposed routes as it will show you the elevation at those points when you move your mouse. Hydrate, hydrate, hydrate.
 
A trip through Moab is surely a right of passage for any righteous two wheelers. The road along the river (west) to Canyonlands and Dead Horse Point is a fun and scenic ride. Blow a corner and there's just another smudge mark on a really high rock wall. The parks are not expensive for bikes and truly are something worth seeing. I've yet to see a picture that comes close to what you experience and feel out there. Take the river road east from Moab to see some spectacular red rock/desert formations. About 50 miles out, turn south toward the La Sal mountains and ride to the radio tower at the top. Bring the camera. It's not that the mountain is all that high...it's just the land below it is so far down. You'll see what I mean. If you venture up any side trails be aware that the end usually just drops off the edge of a three or four thousand feet canyon wall. That country doesn't come with safety rails and warning signs. Ride the rest of the La Sal loop back to Moab. Of course go north out to Arches just before sunset. Bring walking shoes and a tripod for the camera. Behold what the hand of the Almighty hath wrought and be humbled. :rider:

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A trip through Moab is surely a right of passage for any righteous two wheelers. The road along the river (west) to Canyonlands and Dead Horse Point is a fun and scenic ride. Blow a corner and there's just another smudge mark on a really high rock wall. The parks are not expensive for bikes and truly are something worth seeing. I've yet to see a picture that comes close to what you experience and feel out there. Take the river road east from Moab to see some spectacular red rock/desert formations. About 50 miles out, turn south toward the La Sal mountains and ride to the radio tower at the top. Bring the camera. It's not that the mountain is all that high...it's just the land below it is so far down. You'll see what I mean. If you venture up any side trails be aware that the end usually just drops off the edge of a three or four thousand feet canyon wall. That country doesn't come with safety rails and warning signs. Ride the rest of the La Sal loop back to Moab. Of course go north out to Arches just before sunset. Bring walking shoes and a tripod for the camera. Behold what the hand of the Almighty hath wrought and be humbled. :rider:
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_RG_, On my first trip to the Canyonlands/Moab area we averaged riding less than 100 miles a day. A lot of time was spent sitting on the edge of a cliff with my jaw hanging open in awe. The river ride east of Moab is one of my favorite rides ever.
 
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