I was looking to put some sort of protection on my bike and thought about frame sliders,so I started looking around and couldn't really afford to spend 2 or 3 hundred dollars on them and I ran across these on E-Bay.It says their from Parts Canada and they really seem pretty nice to me,they were $40.00 and $13.00 shipping from Canada and I think it took almost 2 weeks to get them but I really like them,easy to install,fit good and they look like they stick out far enough to do some good,hope I never have to test them but they are there just in case.