Would you ride this electric Honda?

[YoDoc]

Electric Honda motorbikin' (http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2011/11/10/honda-rc-e-super-sports-motorcycle-points-to-a-possible-electric-future/)

It seems like there sure is some infrastructure to work out, but I'd ride it!

[Tourmeister]

Heck yeah I would ride it!

I would NOT buy it though ;-)

[Hemibee]

Nope


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[Gravel Guy]

What Scott said....

[Hood Ornament]

Heck yeah I would ride it!

I would NOT buy it though ;-)



+1. Electric tech still has a way to go.

[iluvink]

When electric bikes get more like my Vision, I would probably own and ride one. But like that one, I'll pass.

[budzrex]

Yea I'd ride it but if they put the old 400f motor or the Interceptor 500 motor in it I would buy it quick

I enjoyed those two pocket rockets modern versions would be nice

[YoDoc]

They said it was about the size of a 250. I know people DO tour on them, but most people just use them for around town. If it had a 100 mile range, it would probably fit into most 250 owner's style.

[Mark_M]

The day they make me give up my dino fossil fueled bike is the day I will retire from riding !!! I hate these electric bikes . Just can't imagine going from a roar to some humming sound. I wonder ' what would Harley riders do ' :rofl: without their loud pipes ;)

[YoDoc]

The day they make me give up my dino fossil fueled bike is the day I will retire from riding !!! I hate these electric bikes . Just can't imagine going from a roar to some humming sound. I wonder ' what would Harley riders do ' :rofl: without their loud pipes ;)

Fit obnoxiously loud speakers to the bikes...

[Gravel Guy]

They said it was about the size of a 250. I know people DO tour on them, but most people just use them for around town. If it had a 100 mile range, it would probably fit into most 250 owner's style.
Could you help me find a link to touring electric motorcycles?
I found this:
http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/2010-ebike-shootout-89839.html
But these are just buzzarounds......
:sun:

[DaveC]

I am only good for 20 minutes on that style of bike, guess I could make motor sounds inside my helmet for that long. Sure I would ride it.

Bruum , Bruuuuum, Bruuuummmmm,
or if I was going really fast WA-WAaaaaa , Waaaa. Waaa, Waaaa. speed shifting.

[poser]

My commute is all of five miles each way. So yeah I'd ride it

[xcgates]

Until I can pull up to a "gas station" and "fill up", I would not be interested in purchasing. Maybe I only do 30 miles to work and back, but depending on the day, I can do upwards of 100 miles in a work day, and easily 300+ miles on a weekend day.

Ride it? Oh, YEAH! I'd LOVE to!

[YoDoc]

Until I can pull up to a "gas station" and "fill up", I would not be interested in purchasing. Maybe I only do 30 miles to work and back, but depending on the day, I can do upwards of 100 miles in a work day, and easily 300+ miles on a weekend day.

Ride it? Oh, YEAH! I'd LOVE to!

I've thought about that... what about a "battery swap" station? Just change it out for a new one?

[xcgates]

I've thought about that... what about a "battery swap" station? Just change it out for a new one?

It's a decent idea, but from the looks of it, the batteries are still large and heavy. Not to mention non-standardized. Or how much of the bike is made up of batteries, making it very difficult to take them out and still be in one piece.

Electric is definitely the future, but our technology for storing energy for convenient use in electric motors is positively horrid.

[YoDoc]

It's a decent idea, but from the looks of it, the batteries are still large and heavy. Not to mention non-standardized. Or how much of the bike is made up of batteries, making it very difficult to take them out and still be in one piece.

Electric is definitely the future, but our technology for storing energy for convenient use in electric motors is positively horrid.

Yeah, but there's some good stuff on the horizon!

[invision]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=t5SqoyR8Ht0#!

e:I would absolutely buy one of these.

[xcgates]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=t5SqoyR8Ht0#!

e:I would absolutely buy one of these.

WANT.:rider:

[pons]

The day they make me give up my dino fossil fueled bike is the day I will retire from riding !!! I hate these electric bikes . Just can't imagine going from a roar to some humming sound. I wonder ' what would Harley riders do ' :rofl: without their loud pipes ;)

Put baseball cards on clothes pins in the spokes like I did as a kid:trust: But seriously.........I would enjoy a electrical M/C about as much as buyers enjoyed the automatic FJR

[Thrasherg]

I still don't see how the national grid can support this, if everyone gets home and then plugs in their car/bike to recharge, the electric system will collapse, we already have brown outs just from people turning on AC units in their house, if we now all charge our vehicles as well, there will need to be some major overhauling of the national grid (means major investment and the government is broke!).. My biggest problem with all these electric vehicles is the long (Relative to just refilling my gas tank) charge times. The only viable solution I have seen are electric vehicles with gas driven on-board generators (Seems to do away with the advantage of going electric in the first place if you still have to run a smelly gas engine) or having a standard size/shape battery pack, so you pull up at a charge station and change out your flat battery pack for a full one and drive on.. The infrastructure is not in place for this yet, but unless you are like poser (only riding 10 to 20 miles a day) electric recharge times, just make these things look like toys..

Gary

[The Bruce]

I saw my first public electric vehicle charging station at Denny's yesterday morning; downtown Austin at MLK and IH35. Cost.....$2.00 per hour/$2 minimum. To make it more acceptable the plug was shaped like a gasoline pump nozzle.:lol2:

[YoDoc]

I still don't see how the national grid can support this, if everyone gets home and then plugs in their car/bike to recharge, the electric system will collapse, we already have brown outs just from people turning on AC units in their house, if we now all charge our vehicles as well, there will need to be some major overhauling of the national grid (means major investment and the government is broke!).. My biggest problem with all these electric vehicles is the long (Relative to just refilling my gas tank) charge times. The only viable solution I have seen are electric vehicles with gas driven on-board generators (Seems to do away with the advantage of going electric in the first place if you still have to run a smelly gas engine) or having a standard size/shape battery pack, so you pull up at a charge station and change out your flat battery pack for a full one and drive on.. The infrastructure is not in place for this yet, but unless poser (you are only riding 10 to 20 miles a day) electric recharge times, just make these things look like toys..

Gary

People had the same problems with gas cars when they first came out. You can bet your *** if people buy these thing, Shell and Exxon will be all over battery tech and short recharge times. They probably already are.

[Hemibee]

At this time short time frame charging of a battery will degrade the battery at every charge. You need a slower charger to protect the battery. Battery manufactures will love to see you shortening the lives of the batteries.

The EPA will have a hefty disposal fee on the batteries making it even more expensive to operate an electric vehicle.

A generator mounted on the bike would be the best way to go. A small generator would barely burn any gas for charging the batteries.


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[YoDoc]

At this time short time frame charging of a battery will degrade the battery at every charge. You need a slower charger to protect the battery. Battery manufactures will love to see you shortening the lives of the batteries.

The EPA will have a hefty disposal fee on the batteries making it even more expensive to operate an electric vehicle.

A generator mounted on the bike would be the best way to go. A small generator would barely burn any gas for charging the batteries.


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See Diesel-Electric locomotives and the Chevy Volt. For some reason, people complain about the subsidies Chevy got to develop the Volt, yet, most people agree that this is the way to go to ease into the infrastructure requirements. Realistically, if you could get a 200 mile range out of an electric car, MOST people would have no need to "quick charge" the battery. A charging station at a Denny's would be nice, but the real way to do it is to get charging stations at homes and apartment complexes. Most folks cars sit at night, which would mean off-peak hours for charging the cars, so less stress on the grid (which needs upgraded regardless).

All that said, I think we all know that electric is the way the future is moving. I wish it was compressed hydrogen (http://www.h2-economy.com/compressed-hydrogen.html), but it's probably regular old electric... :(

[JTM]

I have actually thought about buying one of a Zero S or DS, because my commute (round trip 7miles) is so short that it is hard on the motors of by Buell or Jeep. The Honda looks much better than the Zero S, but the DS seems like it would be more comfortable with the poor road conditions between my house and work.

Short Answer, yes I would buy one and yes I would ride it nearly everyday to commute to work, and yes I would lane split on the way home with it.

[KenH]

Swapping batteries is not a viable option. Someone pulls up, swaps batteries, leaves. Battery is recharged, you pull up, swap batteries, leave, only to find out your new battery is worn out, only goes 30 of the 100 miles it is supposed to go, and craps out 3 miles from home. No, swapping batteries is a typical abusable kum-by-ya pipe dream. It could work, but it won't, because there are just enough scum-sucking cretins among us to make sure it doesn't.

There are batteries that recharge quickly (10 minutes, if sufficient electrical potential is available), have high energy densities (100+ times that of lithium ion), and can handle repeated rapid (100C+) and deep discharge (<15%) beyond 1000 cylces. These batteries would make electric vehicles practical for practically everyone. Unfortunately, you can't afford them. Prices for batteries sufficient to operate motor vehicles would be several million $$$$, each.

The practical limit to a robust electrical transport system at this time is lack of materials (lithium) to make the best cost effective current battery technologies available, and the lack of materials (cobalt) to make the best cost effective current regenerative motor technologies available. That is why we are in Afghanistan--massive mineral deposits including lithium and cobalt. Same reason McRibs are not available year around--not enough stuff at a low enough price to make them out of.