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Chris-V65Magna-TX
12-17-2005, 10:26 PM
Ouch! This is why I don't try wheelies on my KLX (or any motorcycle actually). A long time ago I did this on my Huffy bicycle and it sucked. I can't imagine tossing my nice motorcycle down the road! :shock:
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http://www.muchosucko.com/video-2stuntridersintraining.html
Chris-V65Magna-TX
12-19-2005, 09:16 AM
WARNING - vid hosting site is NOT worksafe - Admin
Sorry about that. I guess I should have realized that and mentioned it in my post! True, the website the movie is hosted on is an adult themed site, so if you have any young'ns nearby or are at work, watch your back. :)
DaveC
12-19-2005, 01:19 PM
ATG at that time. at least they had the sense to be equiped:haha: Still, it looked like it hurt. Never was very good at wheelies:nono: Rather watch 'em.
Jesse H
12-19-2005, 02:56 PM
Ouch. Don't know what's worse, being the guy that looped the bike or his buddy that crashed from trying to avoid him.
...and how did that website know I was in Houston? :shock:
Chris-V65Magna-TX
12-19-2005, 03:36 PM
...and how did that website know I was in Houston?
I noticed the same thing. There is info being tracked (cookies) that has the local internet provider's name or location in it I guess. I don't exactly know how to explain it in detail. I'm sure Tourmeister could better answer your question.
I'd be fun to practice wheelies on a beat up old 80, 100-125 etc in a grassy field. That way if (when) you tossed it there wouldn't be much damage to you or the bike. I've seen fellas ride a wheelie like it was nothing, while shifting gears, changing speed, changing lanes. Even seen one bold rider on a ZX11 with a passenger ride a long wheelie, shifting gears as they went by.
:shock: It's mostly coordination of throttle and rear brake, and good balance and weight distribution.
scratch
12-19-2005, 03:41 PM
It's mostly coordination of throttle and rear brake, and good balance and weight distribution.
- and a willingness to risk it all for a few moments of fleeting glory. ;-)
Tx Rider
12-22-2005, 01:36 PM
Had a friend who rode em through the gears all the time, last time he did it on a dirt bike I saw he looped and snapped his collar bone.
I've looped a few on dirt, but I don't do wheelies to ride em.
As for knowing your in Houston, they just use your IP address and do a name lookup on it and reference it. Basic stuff. Any site you connect to knows your internet address or it couldn't send data to you.
All internet addresses are registered to who owns them, and many geographically related depending on the the owners network. It's no big deal to relate that to a city or region.
Jack Giesecke
12-22-2005, 04:43 PM
I learned to wheelie many years ago on an RD350 Yamaha with expansion chambers. Anyone can do it on a modern liter bike. It's hard NOT to power wheelie if you keep the power on in a lower gear.
I know a guy, up in Dallas, old road racer, name's Larry Locklear. That guy is a wizard on one wheel. I've seen him wheelie everything from a 50cc Derbi motard to liter bike stuff. We were up at Dallas a few years ago with XRs doing a parking lot fun day. Larry was there. He's a smoker, was riding around our makeshift track on an old XR200. It was laid out on a side street with a vacant lot for the dirt section. He'd come around the asphalt part, no helmet, one hand on the throttle, wheelie around the sweeper turn, smokin' his cigarette with his left hand. Then, he'd put his hand back on the bar, bring it down, and back it into the dirt off the asphalt. Crazy ***! LOL! Doug Domokos ain't got doodly squat on Larry! I mean, I can walk the SV through four gears or so, but Larry can ride that thing from Austin to Dallas on I35 and never drop the friggin' wheel!
Sleepy Weasel
12-25-2005, 08:57 AM
What, Jack? SV's will wheelie? I... uh... had no idea.. Next somebody will tell me you can do it on a Sherpa.
:duck:
focus frenzy
12-25-2005, 09:08 AM
What, Jack? SV's will wheelie? I... uh... had no idea.. Next somebody will tell me you can do it on a Sherpa.
:duck:
only if you get the sherpa's permission first!! they tend to be a bit grumpy about people jumping on their backs and yelling "WOO HOO" :rider:
The Big Spank Daddy
12-25-2005, 09:21 AM
I did my share of wheelies back in the day………….
I had a Honda XL250 when they first came out. I would wheelie that thing everywhere. No matter how good you are, eventually you will go down. After enough road rash to make the most experience ER nurse cringe, I gave it up. Not long after I saw an interview with Eddie Lawson. They asked him why he did not to wheelies like the other guys. He said it would be pretty embarrassing if you looped it. Then he said that it doesn’t make you any faster on the track.
Latter it was a bit ironic when Eddie Lawson bet Doug Domokos that he could not wheelie a Kawasaki KZ1300. EL claimed the bike was too heavy to even get up, much less ride on one wheel for any length of time. EL lost that bet when DD rode that KZ1300 for like a mile or more on one wheel.
Tourmeister
12-25-2005, 07:36 PM
Some bets are worth making and losing just to see if you can get the other person to do it ;-)
Jack Giesecke
12-25-2005, 08:38 PM
I looped a bike once, at the Autodromo de Revolucion in Monterey, Mexico in front of 10K Mexican fans. I was on a stock RD400. Yes, it was embarrassing. I was happy cause I'd beaten Vernon Davis out of second place in a qualifier. :rolleyes: It was in 1980 and I was a first year expert and I'd never thought I could beat Vernon. So, you see, it was a personal goal and sort of a stamp that says "YES, I AM AN EXPERT NOW!" :lol: Unfortunately, looping in front of the most fans I'd ever seen brought me back down to earth. :rofl:
Hairsmith
12-25-2005, 09:02 PM
Sherpa's will wheelie. Well the Spanish ones I had would. Rear or front wheel.
Actually I have always thought that a trials bike is about the easiest thing on two wheels to ride on one. They have great tork weight bias is heavy to the rear foot pegs are well behind the swing arm pivot. Also with two strokes there is no need to worry about oil pressure dropping because the oil is laying on the back of the crankcase and the pickup unable to reach it.
Riding wheelies serve no purpose other than showing off, not that they are not fun or give a great feeling of controlling the bike in unusual situations. After mastering them at least to the limited ability I have the front wheel rising under hard exceleration is not a big surprise that it use to be. I just try to deal with it and not slam the front wheel back to earth in terror. Well other than a RD350 with chambers, they come on the power band so hard I never did get use to it. :headbang:
The Big Spank Daddy
12-25-2005, 09:19 PM
I love that explanation. Once learned (mastered) its time to move on to another challenge. For me now it is "backing it in". Several times it was by accident because I was getting into the corner too hot. The real thrill came afterwards when I realized what just happened. My relief was that I did not panic and kept the bike under control. Not a practice to be done everyday, but a nice trick to have on your resume to impress the ladies.:scott:
Jack Giesecke
12-25-2005, 09:37 PM
I love that explanation. Once learned (mastered) its time to move on to another challenge. For me now it is "backing it in". Several times it was by accident because I was getting into the corner too hot. The real thrill came afterwards when I realized what just happened. My relief was that I did not panic and kept the bike under control. Not a practice to be done everyday, but a nice trick to have on your resume to impress the ladies.:scott:
Get a motard. :trust:
My GP stuff was easy to "back in" on the front brake. The things are short wheel based, kinda tall, and very light with UNREAL brakes better than anything you can buy on a street bike, no matter the brand. My little RS125 was WILD on heavy braking. I could lift the rear wheel at will as far as I wanted. Of course, on late braking, when you're trailing 'em in hard and heavy, there's no weight on the rear wheel and it swings out as you trail in on the brakes. As you release the brake it slides back under you.
Motards are short and VERY tall and when you go putting REAL brakes on 'em, you get the same effect on trail braking. Lots of folks think they go in and stomp the rear brake. No, that's not what they're doing. They're backin' it in on the FRONT brake.
You can, however, use the motor on a big thumper or twin (as with my SV, it's all too easy) to back it in. You just go into a corner, drop a couple of downshifts, and use the compression braking/clutch to lock up the tire. Feathering the clutch, for me, is a lot easier than trying to control the rear brake. Less likely to high side using the clutch and compression braking. I perfected this on my XR100 motard and this is how the flat trackers do it, too. You may see 'em stomp the rear brake to get the thing to break loose initially, but they'll control the slide with the clutch, throttle off.
Doing this on asphalt is a little hard on the XR, though. I busted a lot of motor mount bolts, cost us some races. And, I wore out the motor mount holes and the front mount plate on the XR. Got the motor welded up. http://www.xr100.com sells frame braces and front mount plates to cure the problem with the front, but the mount bolts at the rear still catch heck. But, this was the only way I could get that danged XR to slow down what with the pathetic brakes XRs come with.
sradkneedragger is fixing me up, though! :rider:
Bagwell
12-27-2005, 11:55 AM
I learned to wheelie many years ago on an RD350 Yamaha with expansion chambers. Anyone can do it on a modern liter bike. It's hard NOT to power wheelie if you keep the power on in a lower gear.
I know a guy, up in Dallas, old road racer, name's Larry Locklear. That guy is a wizard on one wheel. I've seen him wheelie everything from a 50cc Derbi motard to liter bike stuff. We were up at Dallas a few years ago with XRs doing a parking lot fun day. Larry was there. He's a smoker, was riding around our makeshift track on an old XR200. It was laid out on a side street with a vacant lot for the dirt section. He'd come around the asphalt part, no helmet, one hand on the throttle, wheelie around the sweeper turn, smokin' his cigarette with his left hand. Then, he'd put his hand back on the bar, bring it down, and back it into the dirt off the asphalt. Crazy ***! LOL! Doug Domokos ain't got doodly squat on Larry! I mean, I can walk the SV through four gears or so, but Larry can ride that thing from Austin to Dallas on I35 and never drop the friggin' wheel!
Heheh. Yeah, the kind to burn up the engine due to no oil pickup before they let the front wheel touch the ground. I know a couple of guys like that.
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