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DaveC
08-05-2013, 07:56 PM
My names Dave and apparently I don't know no better. I have started working on another 70's era Wing a 75 to be precise. This is the fourth one. You would think that after a few that I might have figured these things are a bit of work with little financial reward. So I need to go take pics of this Red'un that I got from Rusty. Thats kinda funny a red Rusty bike.:mrgreen:

I'm off I think this week so I shall post pics and do some righten (This is how you pronounce writing in Texas) in the afternoons. So Same Bat Channel Same Bat Time Tomorrow .

SL350
08-05-2013, 08:36 PM
Good luck. Goldwings are worth restoring.

Thrasherg
08-06-2013, 10:31 AM
Goldwings are great bikes (Especially the old 1000,1100 & 1200), this site is an excellent source for help and parts if you don't already know it :- http://goldwingdocs.com

Good luck with the project.

Gary

Viethorse
08-07-2013, 02:04 AM
I was thinking of GL before getting my CX650. It's great machine to be on a Cafe racer.
Photo update please.

TossingLead
08-07-2013, 03:09 AM
Photo update please.

DaveC
08-07-2013, 02:03 PM
I don't have the photo of it loaded into the truck, it was full (the truck) So Where to start?
How about the carbs?

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m18/dcarter001/Rusty%20Wing/100_2915_zps701b1e82.jpg[/URL]

:doh:
So it sat under a tarp in the back yard did it? :eek2:

Well, how about I boil them ?Soften up the crud?

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m18/dcarter001/Rusty%20Wing/100_2916_zps818f6283.jpg[/URL]

Don't take much off when you do that. looks like it is elbow grease time!

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m18/dcarter001/Rusty%20Wing/100_2913_zps21b8d432.jpg[/URL]

And through the majic of the internet I give you carbs!

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m18/dcarter001/Rusty%20Wing/100_2939_zps21933450.jpg[/URL]

Moving on.:zen:

DaveC
08-07-2013, 02:15 PM
This is "when chrome goes bad".:eek2: (you well notice a reoccurring emoticon in this thread :eek2:)

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m18/dcarter001/Rusty%20Wing/100_2941_zpsde9423c2.jpg[/URL]

I can not get the stuff to media blast off,:angryfire

whaat to do?

Call Al down in Seguin. Maybe he has some parts!
More internet magic , trip south on the toll road and a KLR brings back these.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m18/dcarter001/Rusty%20Wing/100_2940_zpsbe4c6ba1.jpg[/URL]

So what do want? I did not feel like editing the image.
Any way the tubes from El Quatrofini are fine, the triple tree upper is not, the fork lowers are sorely needing magic too. The set I got came with the upper, and good lowers the tubes are spotted rust. They would leak unless a huge amount of elbow grease and some 1000 grit emery is applied. The new set has bearings installed:-D I can either (a) remove them or (b) grease them and leave them:ponder:

grandelatte
08-07-2013, 02:20 PM
nice work, keep them coming!

DaveC
08-07-2013, 02:21 PM
So lets take a look at the front fender. These things in undented, with out rust or minor rust bring upwards of $100 +:eek2:
No can do, this is a budget restore, not a concourse model. Lets take a look at what I have to work with.

Maybe a trip to the cabinet well show some love?


http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m18/dcarter001/Rusty%20Wing/100_2943_zps86db84d9.jpg
Yes there is hope, aluminum oxide is giving it new life.


Not so good these dings! What to do? Mallet? Wood blocks? wood chisel!?!?
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m18/dcarter001/Rusty%20Wing/100_2945_zps604dcc9b.jpg

Wack it, it is bent what can it hurt? OK wack it gently.:mrgreen: See the crease is there but it looks a bit better.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m18/dcarter001/Rusty%20Wing/100_2946_zps6e8a92f1.jpg

Now how do I want the show side to look, blast it and paint or just naval jelly the thing?

So it hit 1000( OK so it is just 100, but when the fan is forcing 100 degree wind on you it feels exponentially heated) and I came in, the boss don't pay me enough to get heat exhaustion!

TossingLead
08-07-2013, 02:22 PM
And I thought my build was bad.


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DaveC
08-07-2013, 02:30 PM
But before I go lets take a look at the magic of naval jelly

Before:
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m18/dcarter001/Rusty%20Wing/100_2951_zpsd0c73dc6.jpg (http://s100.photobucket.com/user/dcarter001/media/Rusty%20Wing/100_2951_zpsd0c73dc6.jpg.html)

and after:

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m18/dcarter001/Rusty%20Wing/100_2952_zps64b4b990.jpg (http://s100.photobucket.com/user/dcarter001/media/Rusty%20Wing/100_2952_zps64b4b990.jpg.html)

Living better through chemistry!

DaveC
08-07-2013, 04:00 PM
Bolt broke in the upper triple tree,:brainsnap: :eek2: things went from bad, when I drilled it and to worse,:huh2: :thpt: :tears: when I tried to rethread it. :doh:

Heli-coil on amazon with jobber bit $28.00 , but hey it has free shipping! :argh:


wonder what else I can snap off...........................................

1TallTXn
08-07-2013, 04:32 PM
Looks like quite a project.

Want a GL1100A? :trust:

Dragwn
08-07-2013, 09:09 PM
Have you worked on the 1200's much? My brother loves his and it needs some TLC but he isn't a good wrench on bikes and I don't know anything about the wings. He has an `84 the last year you could get just bags.

DaveC
08-07-2013, 09:29 PM
Looks like quite a project.

Want a GL1100A? :trust:
Is it free? I can work with free as it fits the budget.:trust:
GL stands for Goobs o Loot.

DaveC
08-07-2013, 09:33 PM
Have you worked on the 1200's much? My brother loves his and it needs some TLC but he isn't a good wrench on bikes and I don't know anything about the wings. He has an `84 the last year you could get just bags.

There are quite a few GW hobbyist, he should look around and ask a few of the independent shops if they know of such a sen-say. I am in Hutto, so convenient I'm not.

Viethorse
08-08-2013, 09:39 AM
Any idea how your cafe racer will look like? Any sketch or some modified bike to do replica?
Please educate me on the Naval Jelly. Is it rust removal? Useable for chromed materials only or whatever, metal or plastic... etc..
Thanks.

SL350
08-08-2013, 10:08 AM
I used naval jelly on some sl350 handlebars and it ate them up. I must have left it on too long.

I found a new broken bolt extractor and Lowes but I can't remember the name. I have been using EZ-OUT but this one is much better. It is small and has a drill bit that first drills, then you use the opposite side to remove. EZ-OUTs drill and remove with the same bit.

My vote would be to grease the tapered roller bearing and install if the alternative is the loose ball bearings.

I have to ask, what are you doing to keep cool. Those carbs would have taken hours to clean and rebuild, did you a/c your garage? I am seriously getting fatigued doing this work in 100+ heat after work. It is no surprise to me that most talk about "winter" projects.

DaveC
08-08-2013, 02:38 PM
One thing is not like the other.

Come to find out that the loose ball bearings where used in the 75/76 then Honda went to the tapered bearing. So to make the lower tree work I have to replace the bearing.:ponder: I think the old race for the rollers well be easier to remove and the seal well work with the roller, maybe?
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m18/dcarter001/Rusty%20Wing/100_2959_zpsea856e23.jpg (http://s100.photobucket.com/user/dcarter001/media/Rusty%20Wing/100_2959_zpsea856e23.jpg.html)

New top tree victim ,er candidate. Looks like a long and protracted media blast is in my future.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m18/dcarter001/Rusty%20Wing/100_2936_zpse6764fab.jpg (http://s100.photobucket.com/user/dcarter001/media/Rusty%20Wing/100_2936_zpse6764fab.jpg.html)

one thing is not like the other.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m18/dcarter001/Rusty%20Wing/100_2956_zpsd91b8e44.jpg (http://s100.photobucket.com/user/dcarter001/media/Rusty%20Wing/100_2956_zpsd91b8e44.jpg.html)



So back at the bench my newer top tree is hosed!:doh:
This is right before I snapped it off using a 3/4 drive. Should have stuck with the electric impact and let the PB work it's chemical majic!
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m18/dcarter001/Rusty%20Wing/100_2954_zps1fcd6f9b.jpg (http://s100.photobucket.com/user/dcarter001/media/Rusty%20Wing/100_2954_zps1fcd6f9b.jpg.html)

DaveC
08-08-2013, 02:43 PM
Shop dogs

Rusty

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m18/dcarter001/Rusty%20Wing/100_2960_zps47d042c6.jpg (http://s100.photobucket.com/user/dcarter001/media/Rusty%20Wing/100_2960_zps47d042c6.jpg.html)


Rocky

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m18/dcarter001/Rusty%20Wing/100_2961_zps6a892876.jpg (http://s100.photobucket.com/user/dcarter001/media/Rusty%20Wing/100_2961_zps6a892876.jpg.html)

DaveC
08-08-2013, 02:47 PM
I got a little sumpin done, took a some elbow grease but I did manage a little shine. Not factory or professional but for La Oxidado Rojo just fine.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m18/dcarter001/Rusty%20Wing/100_2962_zps6ad15c2e.jpg (http://s100.photobucket.com/user/dcarter001/media/Rusty%20Wing/100_2962_zps6ad15c2e.jpg.html)

RedPill
08-08-2013, 03:47 PM
Shop dogs

Rusty

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m18/dcarter001/Rusty%20Wing/100_2960_zps47d042c6.jpg (http://s100.photobucket.com/user/dcarter001/media/Rusty%20Wing/100_2960_zps47d042c6.jpg.html)


Rocky

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m18/dcarter001/Rusty%20Wing/100_2961_zps6a892876.jpg (http://s100.photobucket.com/user/dcarter001/media/Rusty%20Wing/100_2961_zps6a892876.jpg.html)

Looks like you wore them out. I'm enjoying the project. Keep 'em coming.

DaveC
08-08-2013, 09:53 PM
Any idea how your cafe racer will look like? Any sketch or some modified bike to do replica?
Please educate me on the Naval Jelly. Is it rust removal? Useable for chromed materials only or whatever, metal or plastic... etc..
Thanks.

There is no cafe racer, just a old Wing with the rust removed. Naval Jelly is a de ruster, spread it on and it dissolves rust,rinse it off, wipe clean. there is one version that you leave on and paint over. Does something to the rust. If it is rusty you can use it. If it ain't rusty your wasting time and money. It is a mild acid suspended in a jelly like solution to hold it in place.

tojo92
08-08-2013, 10:21 PM
Subscribed.

Cool stuff.

1TallTXn
08-09-2013, 12:04 PM
Have you worked on the 1200's much? My brother loves his and it needs some TLC but he isn't a good wrench on bikes and I don't know anything about the wings. He has an `84 the last year you could get just bags.

I've done a fair bit to mine. Any particular questions?
I'm only marginally closer than Hutto, but I do have a '85 and a FSM, so I'd be happy to reference if I can help.

Any idea how your cafe racer will look like? Any sketch or some modified bike to do replica?
Please educate me on the Naval Jelly. Is it rust removal? Useable for chromed materials only or whatever, metal or plastic... etc..
Thanks.
Naval Jelly (http://amzn.com/B000C016OC)
May have to get some of that myself.

DaveC
08-14-2013, 02:20 PM
Well I started the science experiment.
Got the bicarbonate of soda, I have a pool so I have a few pounds in a bucket. I made the anode out of a square tube from a old gazeebo. I used a 1 1\4" threaded adapter and a 1 inch coupling both PVC to make the insulator for the anode. The battery charger is "smart" if it does not detect the battery it won't turn on. So add my spare lawn tractor battery, two sets of alligator clips with the quick connect . This is a bit freaky for the electrically disinclined. When you plug the two sets together it swaps the polarity so to speak. You have to ignore the color (red/black) at one end and hook them up "reversed":huh::confused: So when you look at the connection your going to see re and black at the same location. :eek2: It is OK, I'm a professional, I can do stuff like this.:lol2:

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m18/dcarter001/Rusty%20Wing/100_2969_zps8af337d9.jpg (http://s100.photobucket.com/user/dcarter001/media/Rusty%20Wing/100_2969_zps8af337d9.jpg.html)



Checking voltage at the anode and verifying battery chargers output.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m18/dcarter001/Rusty%20Wing/100_2977_zps4e658bdb.jpg (http://s100.photobucket.com/user/dcarter001/media/Rusty%20Wing/100_2977_zps4e658bdb.jpg.html)



I had to pull the battery box and as things were just boiling away I went ahead and sandblasted the thing. Here you see what part of the rust looked like and the sandblasted portion.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m18/dcarter001/Rusty%20Wing/100_2971_zpsae6a5f9d.jpg (http://s100.photobucket.com/user/dcarter001/media/Rusty%20Wing/100_2971_zpsae6a5f9d.jpg.html)


Oh Look! an extra screw! how handy is that?:doh:
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m18/dcarter001/Rusty%20Wing/100_2980_zpsc4587fd3.jpg (http://s100.photobucket.com/user/dcarter001/media/Rusty%20Wing/100_2980_zpsc4587fd3.jpg.html)



So I get a first coat of rattle can on it. BTW if you can get you one of these ultrasonic cleaners, Works great on the weed wacker carb!:clap:

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m18/dcarter001/Rusty%20Wing/100_2981_zps8b24293f.jpg (http://s100.photobucket.com/user/dcarter001/media/Rusty%20Wing/100_2981_zps8b24293f.jpg.html)

DaveC
08-14-2013, 02:26 PM
Things you really don't want to see when doing a restore. On the positive side, the bike well be liter. In weight is it lighter or liter? well any way I was working the inside of the fender and , well I saw these appear.:doh:

Day light, nothing but blue skies.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m18/dcarter001/Rusty%20Wing/100_2974_zps11693ae7.jpg (http://s100.photobucket.com/user/dcarter001/media/Rusty%20Wing/100_2974_zps11693ae7.jpg.html)

So much more to do,.... I well think of a solution that well be cost effective.:ponder: :trust:

DaveC
08-14-2013, 02:36 PM
New shop dog, Romeo. My SIL found him in her yard and she just loved the little critter but her weenier dog don't take to strangers so we ended up fostering him until some one claims him. They posted on the neighborhood facebook page. He is young and prefers inside to out, but the other dogs do too.

I got a pack, I am the Big Dog here!
:rofl:

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m18/dcarter001/100_2965_zps4e063f6e.jpg (http://s100.photobucket.com/user/dcarter001/media/100_2965_zps4e063f6e.jpg.html)

DaveC
08-16-2013, 08:29 PM
Here I am a few days later, let it be known that this form of rust removal is not quick. It is very effective, some what safe as in low chemical contamination, the electricity with water thing can be painful if misused:eek2:

What we have here is the new sacrificial anode and the old sacrifice, the old rusty gas gap is the results, I have not got the sacrificial anode to develop rust. Mine seems to disolve and in the process get the rust to detach from the tank. My plan is to use up this anode , drain the tank, inspect and reapply this mad science to the fenders, fuel sending unit and other needful bits. I read and followed the "Sidecar of Doom" thread and the mate did this to the entire frame. It was not quick but it is inexpensive compared to all other methods.

Something New and Something Old
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m18/dcarter001/Rusty%20Wing/100_2983_zps1fb4b5d3.jpg (http://s100.photobucket.com/user/dcarter001/media/Rusty%20Wing/100_2983_zps1fb4b5d3.jpg.html)

Something Borrowed With the Blues.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m18/dcarter001/Rusty%20Wing/100_2984_zps8a6efd43.jpg (http://s100.photobucket.com/user/dcarter001/media/Rusty%20Wing/100_2984_zps8a6efd43.jpg.html)

You can see my PVC insulator, you must be imaginative when considering making one, some folks have rubber bits they can use, others plastic, Wood may work also but the rusty water well , or may , cause some issue. I can't say as my experment is with PVC:mrgreen:

DaveC
08-16-2013, 09:45 PM
Battery box with bumpers.
I got several layers of paint on it then I started to replace the isolators. The bottom two went in easy enough for 35 year old rubber bits but the side and back bumpers needed a soaking in silicon.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m18/dcarter001/100_2992_zpse769bcac.jpg (http://s100.photobucket.com/user/dcarter001/media/100_2992_zpse769bcac.jpg.html)

Tomorrows project:
The bench seat for the yard.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m18/dcarter001/100_2989_zps1d9d5c34.jpg (http://s100.photobucket.com/user/dcarter001/media/100_2989_zps1d9d5c34.jpg.html)

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m18/dcarter001/100_2988_zpsbbeedcbb.jpg (http://s100.photobucket.com/user/dcarter001/media/100_2988_zpsbbeedcbb.jpg.html)

It ain't all fun and games. But I did manage to turn some of my cabinets from storage :
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m18/dcarter001/100_2995_zps84ae6100.jpg (http://s100.photobucket.com/user/dcarter001/media/100_2995_zps84ae6100.jpg.html)

to information center and storage. That be chalk board paint. Ever time I change oil or tire I end up misplacing the data. This solves that issue.:sun:
This also allows me to label the contents:trust:
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m18/dcarter001/100_2996_zps5960f886.jpg (http://s100.photobucket.com/user/dcarter001/media/100_2996_zps5960f886.jpg.html)

DaveC
08-16-2013, 10:09 PM
BTW this is the rear fender: Yes it is going to the "lab".;-)

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m18/dcarter001/100_2994_zps8aa7f0a0.jpg (http://s100.photobucket.com/user/dcarter001/media/100_2994_zps8aa7f0a0.jpg.html)

Jeff S
08-17-2013, 11:37 AM
subscribed. Can't want to see this roll into Ken's on afternoon!

RedPill
08-17-2013, 12:48 PM
My daughter-in-law used that chalkboard paint on a coffee table to use for her little clients (she's a speech therapist). I'm going to have to use some when I make a play table for my grandson.

Gravel Guy
08-17-2013, 03:09 PM
subscribed. Can't want to see this roll into Ken's on afternoon!

+1. Dave is brave! :clap: :sun:

grandpaul
08-30-2013, 08:42 AM
I ALWAYS use Rust-O-Leum rattle cans. I have some parts that were previously rusty, painted with Rust-O-Leum 30 years ago, still look just fine.

IT WORKS.

SL350
08-30-2013, 09:09 AM
I ALWAYS use Rust-O-Leum rattle cans. I have some parts that were previously rusty, painted with Rust-O-Leum 30 years ago, still look just fine.

IT WORKS.

I used Rustoleum recently on an Sl350 frame. Put down a base coat of primer and then three coats of silver Rustoleum. Two weeks later I saw a bird poop on the frame and washed it off but a spot still remains. Was I supposed to put wax or a clearcoat over it?

grandpaul
08-30-2013, 12:27 PM
When I first tried it with primer, it never stuck.

Now I just scrape, sand, clean and paint.

I don't use clear.

DaveC
03-27-2014, 11:09 AM
I have made little and no progress with this bike. Well I ever have the time and or money to get it running? Should I sell it and pass it to the next brave soul? I completed the carbs with a Randack kit, I bought a some new upper fork tubes but I have not spent the 3 or 4 hours to rebuild the forks and mount them. I have the radiator hoses, but I want to replace the timing belts before mounting the radiator back. I wouldn't mind replaceing the water pump but it isn't leaking, yet. Well I have about 8 weeks of scool and then my summer days well start. maybe then?

grandpaul
03-28-2014, 08:56 PM
Sounds like fun.

DaveC
07-31-2014, 09:30 PM
Oh look, summer is almost over. My son and I swapped the cam belts. Gosh I am moving at a glacial pace! The tires well expire before I can get them on the ground! I swear every day I am going to do something then, bam, the day is shot and nothing gets done. I have had this 11 months!

DaveC
09-25-2015, 01:04 PM
I have done a fork rebuild and nothing else in the last year! I have taught MSF BRC nearly every weekend! I wanted to pull the motor to install a new stator. I need two things, a stator and some time! I looked at the tires, they are now 12 years old! Brand new , rolled across the shop floor new!


Sent from my iPhone, that's sort of wonky as it thinks it can spell Texan better than I !

julimike54
07-01-2016, 04:32 PM
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