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Old 08-27-2012, 09:43 PM   #41
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The riding here at Cloudcroft covers the whole spectrum from real easy to very difficult. There are tons of graded gravel roads, two track unmaintained roads, ATV/motorcycle tails, and motorcycle only single track. We did the top half of Rim Trail today. Not a problem on my KTM 530, but I would NOT want to do it on a KLR!! Lots of NARROW rocky and rooted sections that can be pretty steep and long. Very technical and fun.

Our last day of riding will be Friday and we head home early Saturday. Weather here is PERFECT!! It makes for nice post ride visiting
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Old 08-28-2012, 04:28 PM   #42
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Old 08-28-2012, 05:49 PM   #43
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Old 08-28-2012, 10:58 PM   #45
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We will be here Thurs and Fri riding. Staying at Summit Inn. Come ride with us
Thanks!

Hurricane Issac wants to go to Arkansas more than I do, and The Beyond EPIC ride is cancelled, so I'm going with my Cloudcroft contingency plan.

I'm leaving Austin Thursday morning. I'll stop by the Summit Inn and look for the TWT crew Thursday evening and be ready to ride Friday.

It looks like some other "EPIC refugees" are headed that way too!
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I be another refugee in Cloudcroft Sat and Sun.
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The pictures and the trails look great. We might have to go there next year instead of ouray.
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Here are some teasers
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Old 08-29-2012, 10:50 PM   #49
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It is no crime to be ignorant of economics, which is, after all, a specialized discipline and one that most people consider to be a ‘dismal science.' But it is totally irresponsible to have a loud and vociferous opinion on economic subjects while remaining in this state of ignorance. – Murray N. Rothbard

When one possessed of the Truth suffers from a heavy heart he is susceptible to a more dangerous affliction — the craving for power to eradicate error, to cause Truth to triumph by force. - Frank Chodorov

Where politicians flourish, long history has harshly taught us, people and their liberty wither. Where the state is god and the "public interest" worshipped, individual man will be found bleeding upon the altar. - Karl Hess

The accepted wisdom is that without the state, society would collapse into lawlessness and crime. In fact, lawlessness and crime define the very nature of the state and the society organized by it. - Bionic Mosquito

But the myth of the rule of law does more than render the people submissive to state authority; it also turns them into the state's accomplices in the exercise of its power. For people who would ordinarily consider it a great evil to deprive individuals of their rights or oppress politically powerless minority groups will respond with patriotic fervor when these same actions are described as upholding the rule of law. - John Hasnas
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If you want government to intervene domestically, you’re a liberal. If you want government to intervene overseas, you’re a conservative. If you want government to intervene everywhere, you’re a moderate. If you don’t want government to intervene anywhere, you’re an extremist. — Joe Sobran

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When one possessed of the Truth suffers from a heavy heart he is susceptible to a more dangerous affliction — the craving for power to eradicate error, to cause Truth to triumph by force. - Frank Chodorov

Where politicians flourish, long history has harshly taught us, people and their liberty wither. Where the state is god and the "public interest" worshipped, individual man will be found bleeding upon the altar. - Karl Hess

The accepted wisdom is that without the state, society would collapse into lawlessness and crime. In fact, lawlessness and crime define the very nature of the state and the society organized by it. - Bionic Mosquito

But the myth of the rule of law does more than render the people submissive to state authority; it also turns them into the state's accomplices in the exercise of its power. For people who would ordinarily consider it a great evil to deprive individuals of their rights or oppress politically powerless minority groups will respond with patriotic fervor when these same actions are described as upholding the rule of law. - John Hasnas
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Scott are you going to post tracks for this trip?
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Great Pics! It is killing me watching you guys have all the fun.
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You're missing a great ride John...
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I am going to start choking people here at work.

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Scott are you going to post tracks for this trip?
I like:

http://www.fs.usda.gov/activity/linc...34166&actid=93

...you can also get detailed maps from the park ranger office near Cloudcroft. They will also tell you which trails are open/closed.

Don't forget to ride Carlsbad on the way back to break up the trip. The Sitting Bull Falls has some decent trails around it.

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Rich,

I have tracks for most of what we've ridden. However, for the actual trails, the best thing is the Lincoln National Forest Trail Guide. It is a book with really good maps and descriptions of the trails. The big fold out map it lame. It is pretty, but the text is VERY hard to read. It almost looks like the ink smudged when they were printing them.

Some of the EPIC refugees arrived this evening and joined us for dinner. We will be taking them out for a good ride tomorrow.
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Thanks Scott!

I bought the trail guide from the a couple years ago. I was going to use the tracks and map in concert with each other.
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We will be riding mostly the Jeep roads and passes with our heavy KLR's. Just giving you a heads up as to what to expect if you tag along. We still don't know where we are staying just yet, and I think we are just going to wing it once we get up in the area. Somewhere for a tent or two and some clean showers will do the trick. I'm sure we'll come across something in one of the two towns up there.
Hey guys im up here in Durango and im ready to head to the Alpine loop in the morning for some trail riding. Call me on my cell asap if yall wanna hook up. 210-392-7980.

Im leaving Durango around 8am and will check my cell phone in Silverton around 9am before heading out.

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This Colorado dual sport thing sucks. The scenery just isn't as good as what you get in Junction. LOL
Wow, you are right. I've seen county roads in Denton with a better view

Looks like your having a blast. Now I have to go back to CO myself lol.

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