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Re: Adventure begins where plans fail... Cloudcroft, NM. Aug 2012
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![]() While there I bought the trail guide book at the ranger station. The maps and naming in it are consistent with this: http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_...rdb5292126.pdf the Forest Service website maps/descriptions, and the big fold out map they sell as well. So if anyone is going up there, they should be able to find the trails they want without too much trouble unless maybe they are calling it by an old name. Quote:
Roger would agree with that wholeheartedly!
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Re: Adventure begins where plans fail... Cloudcroft, NM. Aug 2012
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Because the trailhead was on Telephone Canyon road that is what I called the trail. I don't think it was ever on a map that way. I've tried to get used to referencing the number designations, but the names are the ones I remember easiest. Quote:
Over the past couple of decades I've seen a few inexplicable trail and road name changes out there. My personal "hardest climb" in the Lincoln was once called 90G, but is now labeled something else (T1??), and has been designated off limits to motor vehicles. It runs between West Side road and the Rim Trail, and is located at a particularly steep area between T235 and Sunspot. Though I have cleared it on an RMX, DR350S and my DRZ over the years, part of me is happy that it is no longer available to ride up.
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Re: Adventure begins where plans fail... Cloudcroft, NM. Aug 2012
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Re: Adventure begins where plans fail... Cloudcroft, NM. Aug 2012
Whew! Amazing to see what they call moderate difficulity. I like Richards rating system better than theirs. Leaving Saturday for my first trip there and being long in years probably increased my chances returning home whole by about 80%. Had about 15 routes mapped out to which half are now in folder Lincoln Forest (not in this lifetime). Outstanding report! Looking forward to more.
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Re: Adventure begins where plans fail... Cloudcroft, NM. Aug 2012
Wink wink, nudge, nudge, say no more . . .
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Re: Adventure begins where plans fail... Cloudcroft, NM. Aug 2012
Wow, Scott! Amazing report/pictures. Thanks for taking a "blacktop only[now thinking of DS]" rider along.
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Re: Adventure begins where plans fail... Cloudcroft, NM. Aug 2012
Not done yet. Still have to finish this day and I have five more days to go!
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Re: Adventure begins where plans fail... Cloudcroft, NM. Aug 2012
![]() thought that spot we came out looked familiar, this was coming from trail 5008
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Re: Adventure begins where plans fail... Cloudcroft, NM. Aug 2012
LMAO
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Re: Adventure begins where plans fail... Cloudcroft, NM. Aug 2012
There is so much air moving through the jacket I actually feel a bit chilled for the first few minutes until the dry air starts to dry out my skin and shirt. Then the air just feels really good, kind of like that feeling in the morning when your sheets are juuuuust the right temperature and getting out of bed is the LAST thing in the world you want to do!![]() And they're open!! ![]() ![]() Sooo... I send him on his way when I can't take any more. He just hops down and relaxes at my feet, thrilled to have someone to share the porch with.![]() The view from my front porch seat ![]() The sandwich is actually really good and totally hits the spot! So after a little bit of conferring with the local folks, we head out. I think they mean it...![]() ![]() [Gotta work...
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Re: Adventure begins where plans fail... Cloudcroft, NM. Aug 2012
![]() ![]() Could you custom order a nicer day!? ![]() A little on further down the road, looking back to the West ![]() A catch pond for when the valley actually has water flowing through it ![]() It doesn't exactly make me want to go for a swim... ![]() We have arrived a Hughes Canyon Rd. When Roger pulls up I motion to see if he wants to head Northwest back up through the canyon, "I'm game". It's kind of like asking him if his dinner was any good So off we go...I am not sure when the fires came through the area, but it looked like this when we were here in May 2010. ![]() It might be a little bit greener now than it was then, last time two deer cut across in front of me right here. ![]() ![]() ![]() No ice cream for me.James is crying his eyes out in disappointment ![]() ![]() You can see the remnants of a not to distant fire here on the right ![]() ![]() I slow down, drop into second, stand up and get my weight a little back and head in on the right side."NO #%^!@&* WAY AM I GOING DOWN IN THIS!! Roger is of course up for it, so why not? We clean up and go grab dinner, then call it an early evening.
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Re: Adventure begins where plans fail... Cloudcroft, NM. Aug 2012
Scott your reports are killing me! One of these trips I am going to make!
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Re: Adventure begins where plans fail... Cloudcroft, NM. Aug 2012
Great report Scott! I catch my heart racing as I read the knarly parts. Can't wait for more
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Re: Adventure begins where plans fail... Cloudcroft, NM. Aug 2012
way cool I wont to go
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Re: Adventure begins where plans fail... Cloudcroft, NM. Aug 2012
The sign at the start of the Northern end of the trail ![]() Roger takes the lead, I slot into the middle, and James brings up the rear ![]() Second, it never even enters your head that you might not succeed, no matter how improbable the success of your plan may actually be. We've all been there as kids... sitting on our bicycle at the top of the highest hill in town, staring down the drop of death with all our friends standing around egging us on, "DO IT! DO IT! I triple dog dare you!!" And you do it, because there is no alternative! Thank goodness no one had video cameras when I was a kid. There's no telling what insanity we might have attempted!? Riding has been much the same way for me. When I finally do commit, I usually succeed in what I am trying to do. Then I wonder why I ever hesitated ![]() ![]() Not only does the light weight of the KTM mean the bike goes down softer/easier and with less trauma to me and the bike, but it also means I can get it picked up much easier and faster, with less trauma to my knees and back The trail goes down behind Roger, between him and that tree ![]() Looking up the trail from the switchback ![]() No turning around here... ![]() James... "What's the hold up!?" ![]() Nice and rocky ![]() Roger taking in the view on a spectacularly beautiful day! ![]() Back on the main ridge, the trail narrows down again. ![]() James coming up behind us, the climb was pretty rough and steep ![]() ![]() The first of a few downed trees ![]() Interlude for pretty flower by the trail ![]() ![]() James heads back for his KTM 350 ![]() James and Roger catching their breath. It doesn't take much exertion up here to make us winded ![]() ![]() The view from the other side of the log ![]() ![]() A relatively nice and clean section going on up the hill ![]() I come around a curve in the hill and see that the trail gets real steep right as it climbs out onto a level area. Roger is waiting at the top. I gas to the top, relieved to be stopping for a break.James making that last run to the top ![]() And he pops out onto FR 636... which doesn't show on my maps ![]() The trail continues up the hill... the road looks inviting at this point... But we have come to ride the trail! ![]() But first an extended break is in order... ![]() Time for some trail side adjustments ![]() We start up the side of the hill, the track narrow and rocky. It climbs and twists and eventually we reach another intersection. The trails and roads are actually pretty well labeled out here, but they don't always show up on the maps. I can find Karr Canyon FR 634, but not 636 Just keep following the arrows and all is good... ![]() A nice section of the trail ![]() Yeah, I take pics of all the signs so I can remember where I've been... ideally... ![]() I've no idea what this sign was for ![]() "Are we stopping for a break??" ![]() The view ![]() Roger - You can see the steepness of the hillside here pretty well ![]() A wider section where I am able to hop off the left side of the bike onto the hill - no place for the right foot to be put down when the bike is upright. ![]() ![]() ![]() The ride-able line is about 8-12" wide here ![]() Have to stay off the roots or slide to the down side and the gravel on the other side is real soft at the edge... ![]() I get maybe a few hundred feet when I hear the sound of James's bike. ![]() A section of the trail where we can "relax" ![]() ![]() The sign back by my bike ![]() James ![]() Looking down what I just came up, washed out, loose and steeper than it looks of course ![]() We were doing that to him at the Big Bend Ranch &State Park ride last year when he was on his big XR650L and was chugging up some nasty climbs. One thing Roger mentioned to me that I've been working on today is slipping the clutch to keep the engine revving when I start to lose my momentum so that I don't bog and stall. It's hard though because the clutch engagement range on the lever is pretty narrow. If I have the engine revved up and accidentally feed in too much clutch, my bike will start trying to pick up the front end and it can start a real bucking bronco motion. It's one more reason for me to get better at keeping my weight over the bars so I am not holding up my body weight with my arms and can exercise finer control of the levers. Sooo much to think about while riding!James makes it on up to the top ![]() Taking a rest after lifting Roger's and my bike over ![]() ![]() James coming down that last little rocky stretch before the road ![]() The trail picks up on the far side of the road. Apparently this is where the trail originally ended and where they continued some time after the first trail was made ![]() We just came from the left, behind James's bike. That road across the way dead ends into a primitive camping are. Karr Canyon Rd., runs left right (Sunspot Highway to the right). ![]() Looking East toward the Sunspot Highway ![]() It seems that there is a great deal of super secret data acquisition equipment here for the White Sands Missile Range and they don't want people like us playing around it. [time to go home, more tomorrow
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Re: Adventure begins where plans fail... Cloudcroft, NM. Aug 2012
great report!
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Re: Adventure begins where plans fail... Cloudcroft, NM. Aug 2012
This is just the way we saw it too...fourth day, we're all feeling it and it just flows. Down right spiritual it is...
![]() "Somewhere in here my brain decides to get with the program and my whole body starts to relax and just go with the flow. I can feel the tension just sort of ooze out the bottom of my worn old dirt boots." Enjoying the ride! |
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