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Old 10-08-2012, 01:30 PM   #1
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WSBK! -- SPOILERS!! --

Wow was that a dramatic ending or what?????
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Old 10-08-2012, 02:09 PM   #2
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Re: WSBK!

Loved how that came down to the last day and the last race. Three guys with a shot at it.

Don't post spoilers in case some folks haven't seen the race yet.
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Old 10-09-2012, 12:42 AM   #3
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Amazing... some fantastic racing to be sure!!
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Indeed makes me feel the wrong group is coming to Austin next year
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Old 10-09-2012, 07:40 AM   #5
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great finish indeed!! racing is so much tighter and better in that series. imho the wrong series is coming to austin. i would much rather see wsbk.
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Old 10-09-2012, 08:59 AM   #6
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Biagiiiiiiii!!!! Apriliaaaaaaa!!!!

Max made it closer than he should've in Race 1, although a number of riders had problems with grip on that turn.

WSBK was great this season, but don't count out Moto2. Iannone and Marquez have had great battles this season...
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:39 AM   #7
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SBK is certainly a good race series. MotoGP could learn a few things on how to fill a grid.
Which race was it when Max went off in turn one then came back to win the race? That was a great race. Shows how truly talented he is.
AMA has not been to shabby this year, looks like the new organizer has a pretty good grip on things, the 15 minutes of commentary before each race would work better as filler during the race so we could see more laps.
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Re: WSBK! -- SPOILERS!! --

I went ahead and modified the thread title to indicate spoilers. So feel free to talk about the races and season results.

I have enjoyed all of the series, MotoGP (and Moto3/Moto2), WSBK (and supersport), and AMA. Moto2 and Moto3 in particular have had some fantastic racing! Heck, I'd like to see MotoGP AND WSBK come to Austin!!
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Old 10-09-2012, 01:43 PM   #9
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Re: WSBK! -- SPOILERS!! --

I'm with Tourmeister. I want them BOTH in Austin. I went to WSBK races the first year... wonder if I can find my old tshirt... wonder if it'd fit....

If anything, can we have WSBK and Moto2 and Moto3? MotoGP isn't nearly as much fun to watch consistently as the other races are... especially Moto2 and 3.

You can saw what you will about Max making it interesting with the race 1 crash... but Tom Sykes had more than his share of ill luck this year. Leading in the rain and having the race called just shy of full points? Getting clipped from behind while leading with 3 turns left? Blowing engines?

I sure hope Kawasaki figures out the setup problem with the tires. If Sykes could run the entire race like he runs the first 6 or 8 laps he'd never lose. LOL Good year of racing.

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You can saw what you will about Max making it interesting with the race 1 crash... but Tom Sykes had more than his share of ill luck this year. Leading in the rain and having the race called just shy of full points? Getting clipped from behind while leading with 3 turns left? Blowing engines?
Amen brother. That half point race is really rubbing me the wrong way, the same it is when I watched it.
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Re: WSBK! -- SPOILERS!! --

I missed the whole half point thing somewhere along the line. What caused that to happen?
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I missed the whole half point thing somewhere along the line. What caused that to happen?
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With just one set of half-points awarded on a very truncated World Superbike race day at Monza, unsurprisingly the overall standings look barely changed from that of Assen.

Indeed, following the entire cancellation of race one and the early stop to race two, Tom Sykes emerged as the day's top scorer, albeit with a relatively meagre 12.5 points to show for.

A frustrating outcome for a rider that could have left Monza with the championship lead had the race gone full distance and Max Biaggi stayed in his eventual fifth place, Sykes has at least closed the gap to the front runners to ensure just six points cover the top three ahead of his home event at Donington Park.
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Re: WSBK! -- SPOILERS!! --

That. Very frustrating. But like I said, if Kawasaki had figured out the tires issue earlier, Tom would have won. Too many times he was in the lead for 10 laps and fell back to 5th or 8th.
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Re: WSBK! -- SPOILERS!! --

Well, and in Portugal, the race before, his engine cut loose. So that cost him points too.
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Well, as they say, "That's racing". It is always what if, what could have been, if only this hadn't happened, etc,... Biaggi had his fair share of bad luck as well this season.

The tire thing with Sykes reminds me of Corser on the BMWs the first few years. Also, what was the bike that Corser raced for a few years, Petronas? I seem to recall him doing the same thing, getting great starts then fading HARD about 1/3 to 1/2 race distance back to 10-13th place every race.
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Re: WSBK! -- SPOILERS!! --

Just watched the Super Sport SBK, Kawasaki is winning in Europe, Honda not doing to bad, got the manufacturers title by the last race. Good racing.
I would like to see 250 be truly prototype, same with the mid class and Moto GP. It has to have two wheels in line. Rules are for whiners. displacements 250, 500, 1000 +/- 5%. this way we get to see some truly exotic bikes, like the inline 6s of Honda., V8 of Moto Guzzi. If you can build it, you can race it if it laps within the 110% rule? So two rules, has two wheels and it has to be fast enough not to get run over in 10 laps.
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Was there a Magny Cours supersport race?
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Yep, but that championship was decided so there wasn't much on the line other than a win.
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