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Old 01-31-2011, 09:44 PM   #61
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Re: What Oil and Oil filter do you have in your Bandit?

But does it say which oil is the best?!
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Old 02-01-2011, 07:33 AM   #62
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Re: What Oil and Oil filter do you have in your Bandit?

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Yes, that's why I run used french fry oil in my crankcase. The only drawback is that I always seem to be hungry.
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Old 02-01-2011, 05:18 PM   #63
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Yes, that's why I run used french fry oil in my crankcase. The only drawback is that I always seem to be hungry.
That smell does kinda drive you nuts, doesn't it??
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Old 02-04-2011, 06:39 AM   #64
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Re: What Oil and Oil filter do you have in your Bandit?

Only the best oil, but stock filter. 5W-40 winter and 10W-50 in summer. It is a bit costly but oh well.

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Old 04-16-2011, 07:41 PM   #65
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Re: What Oil and Oil filter do you have in your Bandit?

So, Twinkie........

What's up with Agip? I am really interested. I run Mobil 1 Racing - and it works great.
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Old 04-17-2011, 06:54 AM   #66
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So, Twinkie........

What's up with Agip? I am really interested. I run Mobil 1 Racing - and it works great.
The Agip version I have is recommended by Aprilia for the Falco. It works great in the Rotax lump, but the cheapest method of buying it is from the US distributor by the case. Normally I find it for $10.99 per litre retail, but by the case it runs $8.60 with shipping. So, if you can afford paying for three (or so) oil changes at one time...

I have also switched to the DuPont Teflon Multi-Use for the chain. And the chain makes quite the racket at the counter shaft sprocket. This the day after applying it to the chain. I wasn't expecting that.

Right now, the Bandit is the stepchild that gets the hand-me-downs. When it comes to chemicals and lubricants that is. Although I'm thinking of using the Castrol semi-synth the dealer recommended for the next Bandit oil change. All in the name of science.

Some brands (Motorex) I just will not try, even as a one time thing, because they are just too expensive.
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Re: What Oil and Oil filter do you have in your Bandit?

I run Dupont Teflon lube on my Bandit chain and it is clean, smooth and quiet. Do you have some bad links or an alignment problem??
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Re: What Oil and Oil filter do you have in your Bandit?

I've also not noticed any issues with the chain using the Teflon lube.

As for oil, I'm currently running Rotella T6 5W-40. It's fairly cheap, it works well, and it's JASO MA certified.

Were money no object, I'd run Motul 300V. In my ST, it turned a really clunky gearbox into a smooth shifting one. And it smells good, too.
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I run Dupont Teflon lube on my Bandit chain and it is clean, smooth and quiet. Do you have some bad links or an alignment problem??
I will check.
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Re: What Oil and Oil filter do you have in your Bandit?

http://gulfcoastfilters.com/1,000,000%20MILES.htm
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Old 04-17-2011, 02:13 PM   #71
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Re: What Oil and Oil filter do you have in your Bandit?

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What definitive testing have they done on Bandits???
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Old 04-17-2011, 05:04 PM   #72
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Re: What Oil and Oil filter do you have in your Bandit?

Long Haul diesel engines are very different beasts than motorcycle engines. Max torque and HP are generally found between 1500 and 2000 rpm, with redlines not much higher. Oil capacity is huge: think 20 quarts or more. And light weight is not a design consideration: the engine alone may weigh more than 3000 lbs. All the parts are heavy duty, designed for maximum life. And they spend most of their life running at relatively constant rpm, not accelerating and decelerating like a bike engine.

To try to extrapolate from truck use to motorcycle use is meaningless.

That said, there's no doubt that keeping your oil clean is a good thing. And most water cooled engines can go well beyond manufacturers recommendations for OCIs, especially with synthetic. If you look at some of the online sites that discuss oil and UOAs (BITOG) is one of the largest: http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/cms/ ) you'll see people routinely getting 10K OCIs without any undue wear on the engine or the oil, and as much as 15 to 20K with a filter change halfway through.
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Re: What Oil and Oil filter do you have in your Bandit?

thanks for the info. I can't figure out what it has to do with Bandits.
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Re: What Oil and Oil filter do you have in your Bandit?

About as much as the 1 million mile oil change interval has to do with Bandits.
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Old 04-17-2011, 10:40 PM   #75
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Re: What Oil and Oil filter do you have in your Bandit?

I use the K&N oil filter. It has the 17mm nut on the end - very easy to tighten / lossen. $15 at cycle gear - Amazon has it for $11.

Oil - I used the Suzuki racing 10w-40 semi synthetic. I bought it by the case. I wen to buy a case Friday and it appers Suzuki does not make it anymore. I bought the regular suzuki 10w-40 for $59 (case of 12). I generally change my oil at about 5000 miles. I never ride in dirt or very dusty conditions.

Do you change the filter every time ? My brother will change it every other time, but he does not extend his time between oil changes.
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Re: What Oil and Oil filter do you have in your Bandit?

I change the filter every time. I've never understood the point of mixing a pint of dirty oil with my nice new clean oil.
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Old 04-18-2011, 08:25 AM   #77
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Re: What Oil and Oil filter do you have in your Bandit?

The mechanic that put my track bike together - a 2001 GSX-R600 - literally in front of my eyes threw the K&N I had bought on the ground and smashed it into little bitty pieces and then installed a new Suzuki filter w/o charge. He told me to only run Suzuki filters. After seeing his strong convictions I might stop using the K&N and go back to Suzuki.....nah, I like the nut on the end and change it every 3000 miles.
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Old 04-18-2011, 08:28 AM   #78
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Re: What Oil and Oil filter do you have in your Bandit?

I forgot to mention that the filter I use is round, except for the end which has some funny looking flats on it.
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Re: What Oil and Oil filter do you have in your Bandit?

Just for the record books. After going through my old KLR 650 and putting it back on the road, I put Shell Rotella T 15w40 with HiFlo filter. Changing them out at about 2 to 2.5 K miles due to lots of gravel roads I love to ride on down here. Probably go back to Mobile one for the next change as the Shell oil was a gift.
And, Still with Mobile 1 and HiFlo in the Bandit changing it out in the 4 to 5 thousand mile range.
In the end, everyone will have their own opinion and beliefs on what they use. Go for it. Don't follow. Be your own person. I still like to read everyone's input. And, if I see something interesting, I'll ponder on it awhile. Heck After 50 years of mo can nic ing , 40 of that getting paid for it, I still learn something new all the time.
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Re: What Oil and Oil filter do you have in your Bandit?

Use any good brand of oil that meets the API or Jaso ratings, whether it be conventional, semi-synthetic or full synthetic, and change the oil and filter every at least 3,500 miles to 4,500, and you and your engine will be fine.

At 12,000 miles I drained the oil out that had 4,500 miles on it and sent a sample of the oil to Blackstone Labs for an analysis, and the test came back that the oil still had plenty of additives in it and no contaminants were found, and that my engine had passed through wear-in nicely and was in great shape, and that they thought I could go to 5,500 miles on the oil with no problem.
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