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Old 12-15-2012, 04:15 PM   #61
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Re: Midsize Truck?

I've had my 07 Tacoma access cab for about 6 months and really love it. It has plenty of power for everyday use. It even does fine even with a bike in the bed and towing a uhaul. I usually get about 21-22 mpg hwy and a bit less around town.
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Old 12-15-2012, 09:09 PM   #62
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still no small diesels or turbo diesels that can bang out 30+mpg on a 1/2 ton format, I guess? Makes no sense to me
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Old 12-15-2012, 09:20 PM   #63
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Wasnt Ford supposed to release a new Ranger?
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Old 12-15-2012, 11:36 PM   #64
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still no small diesels or turbo diesels that can bang out 30+mpg on a 1/2 ton format, I guess? Makes no sense to me
I might be wrong, but I believe that US makers lobbied in the 80s to tighten EPA standards on lower weight class diesels to protect their small truck/suv market share against the asian manufacturers. I know virtually every small truck is available as a diesel overseas.
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Old 12-16-2012, 08:22 AM   #65
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Wasnt Ford supposed to release a new Ranger?
Yep, available "down under" with 2 diesel engines options -- but not available in USA: http://www.ford.com.au/commercial/ranger
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So, 17mpg vs 21mpg is, for 15K miles a year, 882gal - 714gal or 168 gals/yr. Is it worth the size difference? I sure like having a full size bed that can carry a 4x8 sheet of plywood.
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Old 12-16-2012, 12:16 PM   #67
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So, 17mpg vs 21mpg is, for 15K miles a year, 882gal - 714gal or 168 gals/yr. Is it worth the size difference? I sure like having a full size bed that can carry a 4x8 sheet of plywood.
Well, at $3 a gal, that's about $500.
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So, 17mpg vs 21mpg is, for 15K miles a year, 882gal - 714gal or 168 gals/yr. Is it worth the size difference? I sure like having a full size bed that can carry a 4x8 sheet of plywood.
That is why I like that 1980 Ford F150, it had a bed big enough for a 4X8, got almost 20 mpg, but was not "full size" by today's standards. It is closer to a Dakota size.

4X8 beds are not common anymore. My two kids have a Tundra and a Hemi Ram and both are 4 door with 1/2 size beds. But like someone already pointed out, few trucks are farm and ranch anymore. Most are kid toting station wagons.
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That is why I like that 1980 Ford F150, it had a bed big enough for a 4X8, got almost 20 mpg, but was not "full size" by today's standards. It is closer to a Dakota size.

4X8 beds are not common anymore. My two kids have a Tundra and a Hemi Ram and both are 4 door with 1/2 size beds. But like someone already pointed out, few trucks are farm and ranch anymore. Most are kid toting station wagons.
My wife's van will tow 3500 lbs. Slap a hitch on that, it's more than most pickups will ever haul.
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My wife's van will tow 3500 lbs. Slap a hitch on that, it's more than most pickups will ever haul.
My wife's toyota mini van will pull the same too. I put a hitch on it last year and it's pulled jetskis and uhaul trailer full of luggage.
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My wife's toyota mini van will pull the same too. I put a hitch on it last year and it's pulled jetskis and uhaul trailer full of luggage.
Yeah, we have a sienna, too. Good van.
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Yeah, we have a sienna, too. Good van.
Yeah as much as I hate to admit it, I've really come to like that thing. With a 270 hp V6 its deceptively fast for a grocery getter and you can fit a ton of crap in it and still tow the skis
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Yeah as much as I hate to admit it, I've really come to like that thing. With a 270 hp V6 its deceptively fast for a grocery getter and you can fit a ton of crap in it and still tow the skis
Yep. It's got some go. We managed to take two adults, two toddlers, and all the crud that goes with them for a week into that, and not be uncomfortable.

That said, the wife is already telling me that she's done with "the minivan thing" and my VW won't tow anything, which means in a couple of years, I get to buy a Taco (Or other, similar sized truck), to bring it back on topic.
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Had a 2002 crew cab 4x4 tacoma. Was a great truck and the only midsize with real rear leg room at the time along with easy access. Dealer in Plano made my decision to never own another Toyota product. Couldnt get an oil change without being hassled for more charges. Traded for a 2004 duramx to tow car and bikes. Tocoma didnt have the chassis or power to tow car trailer
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