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Old 02-12-2018, 10:15 AM   #21
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Re: To Dakar or not to Dakar (The tire that is)

Jmz...speaking o getting some g warming. Should get the new tires this week. Ups says delay due to weather. How can I warm these new tires to mount them to install 😵. For that matter, removal. Was thinking about a short hanging in front of the propane heater...
Freezing my belly pan down here.❄️
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Old 02-12-2018, 10:24 AM   #22
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Re: To Dakar or not to Dakar (The tire that is)

I would just put them in the house for a day. For me the trick is to use tire soap to dismount and mount.
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Old 02-12-2018, 08:18 PM   #23
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I would just put them in the house for a day. For me the trick is to use tire soap to dismount and mount.
Yes, will give it a go. Will use food grade silicone grease which is what I have available. I was just reading this Rah, Rah report on these Dakar


https://oztoice.wordpress.com/about/...my-new-staple/

Below, Food for thought, makes me go hum

Got them delivered this evening and have noticed how the front and rear treads are opposing when when properly oriented with the same directional arrows .( Does this make sense?) Obviously I will Mount them as is Illustrated but I just wanted to show this photo as to demonstrate what I am talking about. Those are Post it notes showing the direction arrows at the bottom of the sidewalls being the same. You can see the Tread direction on the top of tires are opposed. The front tire is on top of pic
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Old 02-12-2018, 08:25 PM   #24
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Old 02-12-2018, 08:32 PM   #25
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Get to changing them. Ain't doing you know good on the floor. Lol
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Old 02-12-2018, 08:40 PM   #26
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Re: To Dakar or not to Dakar (The tire that is)

Yes the direction arrows put them opposite. In theory you get maximum steering and breaking from front and maximum drive from rear.

I have an E-07 rear and a similar front mounted in this fashion and they have been great.
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Old 02-12-2018, 08:48 PM   #27
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Not a mitas but same direction .
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Re: To Dakar or not to Dakar (The tire that is)

Thanks for the clarification
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Old 02-14-2018, 08:22 PM   #29
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One down, one to go. Took for a highway ride to the gas station and could hear the drone from the back tire. Nice. Always have had knobbies so it nice and reassuring sound. Rides smooth, no balance issue.
Will get to the front asap. I made 3 little scratches with my spoons and I know exactly how and when I did it. Won't do that again.

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Old 02-15-2018, 05:54 AM   #30
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Next time you go by a tire shop. Ask them for a little tire soap. A little goes a long way. I just put a little around the beads after I break them. If you ever use it you will thank me. Just like I thanked the person who told me about it.
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Old 02-15-2018, 10:47 AM   #31
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Next time you go by a tire shop. Ask them for a little tire soap. A little goes a long way. I just put a little around the beads after I break them. If you ever use it you will thank me. Just like I thanked the person who told me about it.
Hear ya, using a little silicone grease, and some of that carnauba wax car wash stuff. Need to just go ahead and buy some from amazon.
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Old 02-15-2018, 12:28 PM   #32
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Dakar is a beefier tire, stiffer sidewalls (more plies) and tread lasts longer.
Is longer life for the Dakar version something you've verified by using both? I've read over on YST that they wear pretty much the same.

I'm about to pull the trigger on a pair, would rather not mess with the extra difficulty when mounting them and definitely don't need the extra carcass strength for the type of riding I do. But... if the Dakar last significantly longer that changes my opinion on the matter...

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Old 02-15-2018, 12:51 PM   #33
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Is longer life for the Dakar version something you've verified by using both? I've read over on YST that they wear pretty much the same.

I'm about to pull the trigger on a pair, would rather not mess with the extra difficulty when mounting them and definitely don't need the extra carcass strength for the type of riding I do. But... if the Dakar last significantly longer that changes my opinion on the matter...

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Mitas website says longer life. Stiffer sidewalls should equate to cooler run temp so longer life? Maybe that's a stretch? I've never tried non Dakars, $ savings is very minimal and honestly I have zero issues installing Dakars even when cold.

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Old 02-15-2018, 04:25 PM   #34
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Last Dakar I installed on the rear of my Tenere I was talking to drirtyrider with my cell phone between my shoulder and my ear the the whole time . There really not hard to install. Just harder than the softer tires.
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Old 02-15-2018, 05:22 PM   #35
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Re: To Dakar or not to Dakar (The tire that is)

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Is longer life for the Dakar version something you've verified by using both? I've read over on YST that they wear pretty much the same.

I'm about to pull the trigger on a pair, would rather not mess with the extra difficulty when mounting them and definitely don't need the extra carcass strength for the type of riding I do. But... if the Dakar last significantly longer that changes my opinion on the matter...

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Not much of a sample but my Dakar rear has outlasted my non-Dakar front put on at the same time. My replacement front is a Dakar as will be the replacement for the rear when I need it.
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Not much of a sample but my Dakar rear has outlasted my non-Dakar front put on at the same time. My replacement front is a Dakar as will be the replacement for the rear when I need it.
My last Dakar front had over 19k miles when I pulled it off. Still had life left but was leaving on a 4k trip so didnt want to push it.

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Old 02-15-2018, 06:32 PM   #37
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I loved the tread on these so I bought them. Not a big difference so got the dakars. Nice quick test on my dirt road and really grips corners vs the OEM streets. Shot up to 85 on the highway and no difference slight hum but fine fine.
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Preaching to the choir I know but the secret is keeping it in the drop. If it's too hard to spoon over, your out of the drop, just start over.
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Old 02-15-2018, 06:57 PM   #38
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i have these mitas tires on my xr650L and they work great, planning to put ride-on in them next Monday, had ride-on on previous bike and rode it lots offroad and never had a flat, down here near the border all border patrol 4 wheelers have ride-on and the tires wear out without ever getting flats

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Old 02-15-2018, 06:58 PM   #39
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Ps. Back up to 85 degrees down here today
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Old 02-20-2018, 08:16 AM   #40
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Thanks for the feedback on the Dakar vs. Non -- sounds like the mounting issue has been exaggerated online... I've got a HF machine bolted to the garage floor, should be fine.

These will likely be my next tires, only other tire I'm even considering is the Motoz Tractionator GPS which seems very similar...



I'll probably stick with the Mitas though and let the reviews and feedback keep trickling in on the Motoz.

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