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Old 02-12-2018, 07:27 AM   #61
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Nailed it on the young-us.
Thanks WG.

My father cut me loose to roam our suburban neighborhood on a Briggs & Stratton mini-bike when I was 9 years-old. I think that's way more illegal these days.

At least Harley is combating soy-boyism with classes...

https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/e...new-rider.html

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Old 02-12-2018, 11:05 AM   #62
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Plus, the teenagers who watched Joe Namath and Peter Fonda ride Harley's in the 1970's at the drive-in theater are now too old to ride.
Hey ... get off my lawn!
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Old 02-13-2018, 06:24 AM   #63
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Hey ... get off my lawn!
There are two kinds of people...

Those who bought this wall poster at the record store when they were 13 years old, and those who did not.

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Old 02-13-2018, 09:37 AM   #64
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I wonder if these were the "brand ambassadors" we saw on stage when my daughter and I regretfully rode through one Saturday? http://www.americaneaglehd.com/--american-girls
If this is the norm for all dealerships, then they may have already missed the boat on millennials and next-y's. They (M&N's) already have less disposable income, and they tend to favor friendly, socially conscience, and stylish brands. I work at a university primarily for women, and although not typical for university populations, this campus is well represented with scooters, groms, and more recently small ninjas and cbr's (even an odd bonnevile, but that may belong to a prof). Not to mention tons cheap & really expensive bicycles. There is interest in two-wheels by today's "kids".
I hope they can figure this out. I'm 48, and I may not be able to swing my leg over this strom forever. 10 years from now, I want as many choices as possible, and this will require all mfg's to figure out how to keep the doors open with these generations.
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There was a Grom pulling into the parking lot across from the MD Anderson research building this morning as I left the gym. Among the several bikes there, all seem more orientated towards transportation- scooters, small dual sports, etc.

I had a poster of Captain America on the wall along with a half dozen others. Being a third generation motorcyclist, I grew up in a garage along with AJS, BSAs, Triumps, Hondas, Benellis, Ducatis and my uncle Doyle's K model. Dad drag raced out of Dalio's shop and the big dog in the neighborhood in those days was the latest Triumph built by Jack Wilson. Maybe I was jaded listening to dad complain about how HD influenced the AMA rules to keep obsolete bikes competitive, but neither movies or HD defined motorcycling or personal identity for me. HD was just another brand, and one that didn't make a decent dirt bike, which is all I cared about as a teenager. Now the 250 Elsinore, that was something special.

Two acquaintances of mine returned from their tours in Iraq to buy Buells. Both kept them for six months before trading them in on Gixers. The kids these days...
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Old 02-13-2018, 01:39 PM   #66
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Just imagine if Harley had diversified their product line.

There is no valid reason they couldn't build a KLR 650ish bike.
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Old 02-13-2018, 03:50 PM   #67
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Now the 250 Elsinore, that was something special/
Indeed! I had a 1976 MT250 Elsinore like this when I was 14.



Very loud with the baffle out. Seemed fast for the time.
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That's the one!
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There are two kinds of people...

Those who bought this wall poster at the record store when they were 13 years old, and those who did not.

I have it hanging in my garage.
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Just imagine if Harley had diversified their product line.

There is no valid reason they couldn't build a KLR 650ish bike.
They do

http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/mod...e_army_bik.htm

HD is doing what it has always done when markets are tight (remember Buell, axed in the economic downturn of 2008). They also eliminated 2 lines of bikes, more to come? Any company with half a brain is going to make changes when it's required, the ones that don't are the bankrupt ones
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Mancuso on 290 used to have one of those Rotax powered bikes up above the parts counter several years ago. Didn't know they were still making them.
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