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Old 07-06-2018, 06:01 PM   #2301
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Re: The DR/DRZ Thread

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Erik,

I used an impact with a 10 mm allen socket. The wrench wouldn't turn. I have one more socket to try (I remembered I have a set of 1/2 in drive impact allen sockets. But I may end up with the drill and/or chisel. I have never seen one so stuck. I really don't need to get it off, it is just convenient to rotate the engine with the wrench. Of course, I do have the kickstarter.


Not sure what youíre using for an impact
but even my smallest 3/8 drive snap on electric would cause the aluminum material to yield before the impact stalled

Bottom line hit it with the biggest impact gun youíve got
It will come out or the hex will round out

This is one of those times slow and steady causes more failures then brute strength donít baby it
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Old 07-06-2018, 06:08 PM   #2302
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Re: The DR/DRZ Thread

Well I have a DeWalt 20 VDC impact. Supposed to be 400 ft-lbs. I also have a Kobalt ac powered one I will try a little later. The DeWalt wouldn't budge it, that is a little worrisome. Like we both said, should be off by now.
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Old 07-06-2018, 06:15 PM   #2303
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Well I have a DeWalt 20 VDC impact. Supposed to be 400 ft-lbs. I also have a Kobalt ac powered one I will try a little later. The DeWalt wouldn't budge it, that is a little worrisome. Like we both said, should be off by now.


Definitely try the other impact Iím going to guess the first one isnít giving you what itís rated for.

Even slightly tight and passed the ring seat they bind really easily as Iím sure you know.
Is this a OEM plug or after market I canít say why but my experience is the aftermarket anodized ones stick more easily and more often than the original plug

The good news is due to the design and placement of the O-ring the thread donít getting a correction as theyíre constantly Bathed in oil

And less somebody use some Loctite 680 stud and bearing mount on the threadÖ LOL
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Old 07-06-2018, 09:39 PM   #2304
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Re: The DR/DRZ Thread

I will try it when we get back from riding tomorrow. It is a stock plug, but oddly, it is painted black. I have some spares if I can get it out.
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Old 07-07-2018, 12:55 AM   #2305
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Re: The DR/DRZ Thread

Just curious, does your impact gun have the little lever to select the amount of torque? Not trying to be mean here, I've even spent time troubleshooting a bike with the kill switch turned off, so it's possible this could be the case.
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Just curious, does your impact gun have the little lever to select the amount of torque? Not trying to be mean here, I've even spent time troubleshooting a bike with the kill switch turned off, so it's possible this could be the case.
Nope, I bought one that is moron proof. It changes speed/torque with the trigger. The ac one I have does as well. I will give it a shot this afternoon after the ride.
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No such thing...
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No such thing...
Oops, I meant "Marine Proof", since nothing ever made is completely "Sailor Proof"
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Oops, I meant "Marine Proof", since nothing ever made is completely "Sailor Proof"
There definitely ain't nothing made that a Marine can't break.
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Re: The DR/DRZ Thread

For the record, the big gun did the plug in. Still in there with a nice round hole. So I am taking the cover off and installing my spare. Only bad part is no O-ring for the plug. Thought I had a spare, but I do not. I may send the old one to Erik to see if he can get her loose.
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Re: The DR/DRZ Thread

Update, got it off. For the record, I took the cover off, screwed it to a 2X12 screwed to the work bench. Then I put a groove in it with the dremel. Then using a good sized cold chisel and a 5 lb sledge hammer, I got it off. Whew.

Things that failed.

My 350 ft-lb electric impact with impact sockets just rounded her out.







Result? Round Hole



Erik was right, it will come out.



While I was there I checked the valve clearances, dead center, perfect. No more issues, put the manual cam chain tensioner in and then I overfilled the oil. Pretty good DR-Z day.

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Re: The DR/DRZ Thread

I'm on my third DRZ, fourth if you count my DR-650. It's main purpose is Jeep roads in NM, CO, AZ and UT, although I have ridden 2 days in excess of 600 miles on rides back from Colorado and Arkansas. I'm 70, less than 5'8" and my wife rides with me. Combined weight with luggage is close to 350#. The bike that used to be great is now too tall. Has anyone lowered their DRZ400 by as much as 2"? My alternative would probably be an XT250 with a different shock and modified springs. Thoughts?
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I'm on my third DRZ, fourth if you count my DR-650. It's main purpose is Jeep roads in NM, CO, AZ and UT, although I have ridden 2 days in excess of 600 miles on rides back from Colorado and Arkansas. I'm 70, less than 5'8" and my wife rides with me. Combined weight with luggage is close to 350#. The bike that used to be great is now too tall. Has anyone lowered their DRZ400 by as much as 2"? My alternative would probably be an XT250 with a different shock and modified springs. Thoughts?
Yes I have lowered many a DRZ.

Please do not use lowering links, it makes a less than great stock suspension much much worse. To those you hear say they use lowering links and they work fine... its only that they have nothing to compare to. My go to quote for that is
"The best you've ridden is the best you know!" - Paul Thede

Internally lowering both fork and shock coupled with the correct spring is the better option.
Best option would be that and valving to work optimally with the decreased stroke.

2 In is a lot to lower a DRZ, doable if really needed, but a lot none the less. If you can handle somewhat taller seat , limit lowing to 1.5"
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Old 07-30-2018, 06:50 PM   #2314
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Re: The DR/DRZ Thread

I lowered mine via internal spacers. I went down 1.5 in in the fork and 3/4 in in the shock. That has been perfect. Of course, I have a DR-Z400SM, so it started lower. I noticed my DR-Z400S is getting easier to get on and off of, mainly because I am getting used to it. I used Roger Albert of Onraod/Offroad, he did Gold Valves at the same time, plus I had heavier springs already. Really works well, I can ride it a long way or bang it around on the racetrack and she never complains or does anything strange. If you are ever near Glen Rose, you are welcome to come by and sit on her and/or ride her.
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