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Old 02-20-2018, 10:04 AM   #41
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Re: To Dakar or not to Dakar (The tire that is)

I too like that Motoz GPS and initial reviews although very limited, have been favorable. But more expensive than the Dakar and to be an equal value the GPS would need to last for 17k miles. Don't see that as a possibility.

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Old 02-21-2018, 10:44 PM   #42
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I kept the side walls compressed or squeezed (with a clamp) together so it keeps it in the drop. Kind of hard to explain
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Old 03-16-2018, 10:31 PM   #43
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So, last month on sander's Menard or bust 2 day monster ride. We hit just about every thing a dual sport ride could ask for (I do mean some hard hits). I found out,early in the morning after almost going down in the mud track that I had better do something about my air pressure in my new Dakar's. I didn't have a gauge so instead, I just did a quick 5 count pressure release on front and back. They were filled to spec with 33 psi front and 36psi rear. Not sure how much released but I think it let et down to about 26 which was much better ride.

Question, for this kind of off pavement where traction is a must have, what would be an acceptable, ideal lower pressure to run but still maintain a safe operating level on these tubeless tires. -5%, -7%, -10%? What is the conventional wisdom?
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Old 03-16-2018, 11:11 PM   #44
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I run about 40 frt and 42 rear pretty much all the time . I don't like to sit down , I'm afraid I'll bend a rim or get a flat. PS. I hate mud
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Old 03-19-2018, 08:15 PM   #45
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I generally run low to mid 30’s about where you started on my strom. I generally don’t air down i’m lazy and don’t want to air back up. Typically when on my dirt bikes when others are running 8-10 I’m running 15-20. I think a lot has to do with personal preference, and what you get accustomed to.

I have run them as low as 22 on my strom just from not checking them. I could feel it and aired them up when I got home.
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Old 06-04-2018, 08:22 AM   #46
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Last Dakar I installed on the rear of my Tenere I was talking to drirtyrider with my cell phone between my shoulder and my ear the the whole time . There really not hard to install. Just harder than the softer tires.
Well, as a data point, I had zero issues installing the rear Dakar. Just keep the tire in the dish of the rim like every other tire and it slid right on (HF Changer + Mojo Lever). I've had to wrestle other tires much more.

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Old 06-04-2018, 10:43 AM   #47
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Well, as a data point, I had zero issues installing the rear Dakar. Just keep the tire in the dish of the rim like every other tire and it slid right on (HF Changer + Mojo Lever). I've had to wrestle other tires much more.

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Old 06-05-2018, 01:22 PM   #48
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Re: To Dakar or not to Dakar (The tire that is)

Regarding the "security token" error when uploading images, that means your images are too large. Attachments must be no larger than 640 X 480 at 194KB max.

Regarding tire pressures, I generally run my tires around 25-27 psi front and rear. I might go higher if I mount a more street biased tire, like 36/42 F/R. But for tires like the K60s, TKC 80s, and Shinko 805s, I stay in the mid 20s unless I know I will be doing a long stretch of pavement at highway speeds. This is for my 1200 GS. I have never had any issues with bending a rim on a rock or other commonly reported problems from running lower pressures. I think you'd need to get in the low 20s or even the high teens to see those problems unless you have a REALLY hard hit, which would likely cause problems even at higher pressures. The lower pressures really do help once you get off the pavement.
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Scott, yep, I found organically , that is the sweet spot for me too.

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Old 06-07-2018, 04:11 PM   #50
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Are y'alls E07 usually a little buzzy/bouncy for the first few miles? I've got about 100 miles on it now (mostly ~60mph commuting), and between 73-80 MPH I get a pretty good vibration from the rear tire -- it feels like it's out of balance. Below and above that speed it's smooth.

Will it smooth out as I put more miles on it, or do I need to pull it and check the balance?

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Are y'alls E07 usually a little buzzy/bouncy for the first few miles? I've got about 100 miles on it now (mostly ~60mph commuting), and between 73-80 MPH I get a pretty good vibration from the rear tire -- it feels like it's out of balance. Below and above that speed it's smooth.

Will it smooth out as I put more miles on it, or do I need to pull it and check the balance?

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Should I ask if it was mounted in correct orientation? Is there any evidence of missing wheel weights?
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Should I ask if it was mounted in correct orientation? Is there any evidence of missing wheel weights?
Yes, it's mounted in the right direction. Wheel weights all accounted for. I double check both the other night

I put a little over 200 miles of hill country 2 lane on it this morning before it got hot out and it's much, much, smoother. I think the hard edges just needed to soften on the lugs (which I can see visually that they have). It's about as smooth as a pure road tire now and I bet it'll get a little smoother yet with a few more miles.



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Great news trey!

I did 380 miles yesterday on hot pavement. It won't take long to seat those tires in these conditions.
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Wear update , Mitas e07 dakars . This is the back and front tires with about 4200 miles. You can see a couple wear areas highlighted with tape on the rear. The worst probably from the bend trip in March. This is hard pack gravel and asphalt wear . Majority being hard surface or Rocky Hill country type stuff . difficult to distinguish percentage-wise. It's amazing how well it bites in all conditions. I'm pleased so far. Even leaned way over a couple times and still maintains good control.

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Wear update , Mitas e07 dakars . This is the back and front tires with about 4200 miles. You can see a couple wear areas highlighted with tape on the rear. The worst probably from the bend trip in March. This is hard pack gravel and asphalt wear . Majority being hard surface or Rocky Hill country type stuff . difficult to distinguish percentage-wise. It's amazing how well it bites in all conditions. I'm pleased so far. Even leaned way over a couple times and still maintains good control.

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That looks about were my rear E 07 are at 6500 miles on my 15 Vstrom XT one trip on the GDR from Silver City to Salida CO and running around the hill country and here lately 2 up, front tire came off at 4500 miles with split side walls on both sides 3/4 the way around
You might look at running a little less air to get some more miles i only ran 28 to 30 pounds in mine till i started ride more 2 up here lately.

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Thanks, I pressure down on off pavement tours but keep it to spec when I know there will be lots of pavement like the last last couple weekends

Good thing keeping a sharp eye out, as they say, lots riding on those tires
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I'm not getting anywhere near that kind of mileage from a set of E07+

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Recently, I changed a tube in an XR650 and used a welding clamp to pinch the tire.

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Great tires...

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Mitch...yep, got a couple of those too. They do come in handy
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