• Welcome to the Two Wheeled Texans community! Feel free to hang out and lurk as long as you like. However, we would like to encourage you to register so that you can join the community and use the numerous features on the site. After registering, don't forget to post up an introduction!

A cluster explained

Joined
Jun 7, 2006
Messages
5,848
Reaction score
9
Location
Exit. Stage West.
416204870_Zjc7A-M.jpg

For those of you that visit cemeteries and read the headstones, you might be interested in this tidbit that connects the large number of 1917-1919 death dates to today.
What's Old is New
 
I remember reading that troop ships left the U.S. for the trip to Britain and got there with over a third of their men dead of influenza.

Has anyone noticed the the global H1N1 pandemic hasn't killed anywhere near that many people?
 
I remember reading that troop ships left the U.S. for the trip to Britain and got there with over a third of their men dead of influenza.

Has anyone noticed the the global H1N1 pandemic hasn't killed anywhere near that many people?
The main reason for that is modern medicine and health care (vaccines, reduction of secondary infections, nutrition, etc). Look at the difference in mortality rates between developed and under-developed countries (e.g. Mexico). Mexico, China, etc. were hard-hit.
 
True, and I think we might add sanitation to that list. But even in less-developed countries it wasn't anywhere near the killer that the 1916-1919 flu was. (Didn't they call it the Spanish Flu?)
 
Thanks for providing "the rest of the story" with the original strain vs H1N1 and how it morphed into something new then back into it's almost original state.

My question is this.... Are antibodies only present when an individual is exposed or can the antibodies be passed from parent to child if the parent has the antibodies?

.
 
True, and I think we might add sanitation to that list. But even in less-developed countries it wasn't anywhere near the killer that the 1916-1919 flu was. (Didn't they call it the Spanish Flu?)
Correct, it was. And it cycled between 1917-1920 in waves (mobility of the infected?), with first breakouts in late 1916.
Forgot to mention sanitation (which lack of was/is the largest link of host transfer to bubonic plague ;-) ).
 
Thanks for providing "the rest of the story" with the original strain vs H1N1 and how it morphed into something new then back into it's almost original state.

My question is this.... Are antibodies only present when an individual is exposed or can the antibodies be passed from parent to child if the parent has the antibodies?

.
Not genetically. There CAN be a genetic predisposition for stronger immune systems, but specific antibodies are not passed down. (except in the case of a newborn and a nursing mother-some are, indeed, passed along that way.)
Exposure is the only way to produce the antibodies (vaccines are exposure). At the present time, exactly ZERO viral infections can be cured by modern medicine, they can only be prevented.
 
My question is this.... Are antibodies only present when an individual is exposed or can the antibodies be passed from parent to child if the parent has the antibodies?
Both. Examples of active immunity (the former) and passive immunity (the latter). The reason Native Americans were so susceptible to European/Asian continent diseases was because they had neither passive or active immunity to diseases infesting other continents. That scenario is called 'virgin soil' epidemics.

Some are passed on within Mother's milk.
In the colostrum; the protein-rich secretion that precedes the milk.
 
Not genetically. There CAN be a genetic predisposition for stronger immune systems, but specific antibodies are not passed down. (except in the case of a newborn and a nursing mother-some are, indeed, passed along that way.)
Which is why colostrum is so important to neonates. Pregnant sheep vaccinated against cowpox give birth to newborn lambs who are immune and that vaccinial immunization of mothers leads to immunity. That was one of the first discoveries of passive immunity and antibody transfer.

Exposure is the only way to produce the antibodies (vaccines are exposure). At the present time, exactly ZERO viral infections can be cured by modern medicine, they can only be prevented.
Probably the most significant contribution of modern medicine is prevention and reduction of secondary infections.
 
Back
Top