Kevin Schwantz files suit over Texas track

**Texas T** · 09-08-2012, 11:28 AM

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/183...m_campaign=rss

1993 500cc world champion Kevin Schwantz has filed a lawsuit against the new Circuit of the Americas (COTA) being built in Austin, Texas.

Follow the link above for all the details.

**Morgan Buchanan** · 09-08-2012, 01:30 PM

that certainly sucks

poser · 09-08-2012, 02:32 PM

fill in the gaps for those of us [me] who do not full understand what happened here.
is he suing over breech of contract?

codyy · 09-08-2012, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Schwantz has released the following statement via"Facebook":

“I have devoted over 25 years of my life to MotoGP, the premier motorcycle road racing world championship. I spent four of those years bringing*MotoGP
*to Texas, my home state. As a result,*MotoGP
*agreed in 2011 to host an annual race at Austin's Circuit of the Americas (COTA) track.

“I'm sorry to say that COTA is now attempting to unlawfully force me out of this project. I believe COTA has committed fraud in doing so. Earlier today, I took legal action against COTA. I was forced to file this lawsuit in order to protect my rights, my reputation, and*MotoGP
itself.

“I want to see*MotoGP
*come to Texas, but I cannot allow COTA to take advantage of me. More important, I will not sit idly by while a newcomer to racing discredits the sport I love.

Looks like he's getting passed over as a promoter

bmcdonau · 09-08-2012, 05:07 PM

Rich people fighting over money.

**leekellerking** · 09-08-2012, 05:13 PM

I don't know enough about the case to give an intelligent answer, but it sounds like Kevin did the work and now they want to freeze him out.

**tricepilot** · 09-08-2012, 06:15 PM

Schwantz

The perfect name for this guy.

**bluedogok** · 09-08-2012, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by leekellerking

I don't know enough about the case to give an intelligent answer, but it sounds like Kevin did the work and now they want to freeze him out.

They are doing to Schwantz pretty much what they did to Hellmund. Once things are "set up" then they feel they can get rid of the facilitator.

Basically the guy behind this was sitting on a huge piece of land that he had slated for development before the crash. A piece of land that wasn't worth what he had paid for it and since credit at the time was in effect "frozen" for large development projects in the middle of nowhere and an area that had garnered very little interest as a residential development of that type (a few thousand typical tract homes). Hellmund basically gave him another use for the piece of land and then he runs him out of the deal because he thought Tavo was making too much money. So now you have a real estate guy and a horse racing guy thinking they can become top level race promoters.

**Texas T** · 09-08-2012, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by leekellerking

I don't know enough about the case to give an intelligent answer, but it sounds like Kevin did the work and now they want to freeze him out.

That was what I got out of it as well.

tshelfer · 09-08-2012, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tricepilot

Schwantz

The perfect name for this guy.

You beat me to that one....

SilverBullet · 09-08-2012, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tshelfer

You beat me to that one....

same here. My grandmother was born and raised in Germany. She taught me all the important words, haha.

_

tshelfer · 09-08-2012, 10:10 PM

Army brat here. I spent several years in Germany and learned most of my German the old fashioned way - in the gutter.

YoDoc · 09-09-2012, 09:09 AM

What does it mean?

tshelfer · 09-09-2012, 09:16 AM

Literally, "tail", like a dog's tail, but it has a different meaning in German slang. Take it from there.

Badge502 · 09-09-2012, 09:29 AM

Its all about the DOUGH... Millionaires arguing with Billionaires, and trying to hose each other so they can get richer.

I think that Schwantz was sincere, and wanted to bring big time motorcycle racing to Texas. The guy has won US Superbike titles and Grand Prix titles (on not the best bike out there). He's always flown the Texas flag on everything her's ridden at the world level. He is a HUGE promoter of motorcycling, and two wheeled sport, and has all the moto contacts. They hosed him over. He's been promoting COTA all over the place. I hope he puts 'em in the ditch.

**Morgan Buchanan** · 09-09-2012, 10:52 PM

Grand Prix Title...singular....and the ONLY reason he won was because Wayne Rainey got paralyzed.

But that has nothing to do with this argument. I don't think it SEEMS that Schwantz is being the jerk here.

**Texas T** · 09-09-2012, 10:52 PM

COTA responds to the lawsuit...

"We were informed by Dorna that Mr. Schwantz has no contract to promote a MotoGP race in Texas" - Julie Loignon, COTA spokesperson.

Article...
http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/183...m_campaign=rss

humanrace · 09-11-2012, 10:07 AM

posted 2X

humanrace · 09-11-2012, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgan Buchanan

Grand Prix Title...singular....and the ONLY reason he won was because Wayne Rainey got paralyzed.

But that has nothing to do with this argument. I don't think it SEEMS that Schwantz is being the jerk here.

He won because he had more points than any other rider after the last race. That makes him the winner. He wasn't involved in Rainey's crash. He didn't tell Rainey to crash. In my opinion, he was one of the most talented riders ever. He rode obviously inferior equipment to many wins. He also gets my vote for loyalty because he rode for Suzuki his entire professional career when he could have switched teams and ridden top notch equipment. The last time I saw him, I mentioned his world championship and he said, "Yeah, I slipped one of those in." It was obvious to me that he recognized Rainey's riding ability and the crash MAY be the only reason he won. He still won.

Chirpy · 09-11-2012, 11:34 AM

This royally sucks. Schwantz was the reason the Motard race almost made it to Austin, and if not for him the COTA wouldn't be moto-ready. He was already planning on moving the Schwantz school to COTA when finished.

The COTA guys must be real *******s*.

*illegitimate children

09-08-2012, 11:28 AM	#1
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Morgan Buchanan Forum Supporter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Lewisville Posts: 4,639	Re: Kevin Schwantz files suit over Texas track that certainly sucks __________________ 2010 Kawasaki Concours 1400 2004 Honda VTX 1800C, 2001 Kawasaki ZX-11, 2003 Honda VTX 1800C, 1991 Kawasaki ZX-11, 1988 Honda Hurricane 1000, 1985 Yamaha FZ750, 1981 Kawasaki KZ750, 1979 Suzuki GS750 COG#: 9384

09-08-2012, 02:32 PM	#3
poser Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: old katy Posts: 9,583	Re: Kevin Schwantz files suit over Texas track fill in the gaps for those of us [me] who do not full understand what happened here. is he suing over breech of contract? __________________ Jason Katy, TX (in "old katy" some say there's a difference) http://thebohacpage.smugmug.com/ "If it was illegal, there'd be a sign telling us NOT to do it." "I can't always tell if he [Jason] is joking, or if his judgment really is that bad." - my father-in-law 2006 KTM 250 SX-F 2008 Polaris Scrambler 500 4x4 2004 Yamaha yz250f - in boxes (some assembly required ) I've got a soft spot/addiction for basket cases, projects, and lost causes.

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bmcdonau Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Salado Posts: 3,460	Re: Kevin Schwantz files suit over Texas track Rich people fighting over money. __________________ Dennis

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leekellerking Biker Barrister Forum Supporter Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Sugar Land, Texas Posts: 3,435	Re: Kevin Schwantz files suit over Texas track I don't know enough about the case to give an intelligent answer, but it sounds like Kevin did the work and now they want to freeze him out. __________________ Champion Member, American Motorcyclist Association Member, National Rifle Association Member, State Bar of Texas ================================= 2001 Yamaha VStar 650 -- Vera (Sold to fix wife's jeep) 1982 Honda CB650SC Nighthawk -- Silvy (sold 2012) 1982 Honda CB650SC Nighthawk-- Bikey (Sold, 2011) 1970ish Kawasaki H1 500 (Long gone, but not forgotten)

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tshelfer Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Arlington Posts: 4,929	Re: Kevin Schwantz files suit over Texas track Army brat here. I spent several years in Germany and learned most of my German the old fashioned way - in the gutter. __________________ Tim in Arlington '05 Suzuki V-Strom 650 Preach the gospel. And if necessary, use words - Francis of Assisi

09-09-2012, 09:16 AM	#14
tshelfer Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Arlington Posts: 4,929	Re: Kevin Schwantz files suit over Texas track Literally, "tail", like a dog's tail, but it has a different meaning in German slang. Take it from there. __________________ Tim in Arlington '05 Suzuki V-Strom 650 Preach the gospel. And if necessary, use words - Francis of Assisi

09-09-2012, 09:29 AM	#15
Badge502 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Central Texas (in the sticks) Posts: 122	Re: Kevin Schwantz files suit over Texas track Its all about the DOUGH... Millionaires arguing with Billionaires, and trying to hose each other so they can get richer. I think that Schwantz was sincere, and wanted to bring big time motorcycle racing to Texas. The guy has won US Superbike titles and Grand Prix titles (on not the best bike out there). He's always flown the Texas flag on everything her's ridden at the world level. He is a HUGE promoter of motorcycling, and two wheeled sport, and has all the moto contacts. They hosed him over. He's been promoting COTA all over the place. I hope he puts 'em in the ditch. __________________ Does it count as a black T-shirt if it has "BMW" on it?

09-09-2012, 10:52 PM	#16
Morgan Buchanan Forum Supporter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Lewisville Posts: 4,639	Re: Kevin Schwantz files suit over Texas track Grand Prix Title...singular....and the ONLY reason he won was because Wayne Rainey got paralyzed. But that has nothing to do with this argument. I don't think it SEEMS that Schwantz is being the jerk here. __________________ 2010 Kawasaki Concours 1400 2004 Honda VTX 1800C, 2001 Kawasaki ZX-11, 2003 Honda VTX 1800C, 1991 Kawasaki ZX-11, 1988 Honda Hurricane 1000, 1985 Yamaha FZ750, 1981 Kawasaki KZ750, 1979 Suzuki GS750 COG#: 9384

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09-11-2012, 11:34 AM	#20
Chirpy Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hippo town Posts: 6,693	Re: Kevin Schwantz files suit over Texas track This royally sucks. Schwantz was the reason the Motard race almost made it to Austin, and if not for him the COTA wouldn't be moto-ready. He was already planning on moving the Schwantz school to COTA when finished. The COTA guys must be real ******s. illegitimate children __________________ XR1200 \| KLX300* \| XR100 missed So I'm looking through the Constitution, trying to figure out where the Congress has the power to regulate light bulbs...

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