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Old 11-11-2015, 09:31 AM   #1
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3 - 4 day Ride Recommendation

Hey everyone, A buddy and I are planning a little weekend ride in a couple a weeks and we'll have 3-4 days free. What are some great trips routes we could make coming from Southeast Texas (Beaumont-Port Arthur Area). I'm on a Yamaha Bolt and he'll be on a BMW r800r so no dual sporting for us.

We've been riding for about 6 months now and it'll be our first multi-day trip on our bikes so any suggestions would help us out ALOT!

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Old 11-11-2015, 09:33 AM   #2
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Re: 3 - 4 day Ride Recommendation

Arkansas...

more good paved roads than you can shake a stick at.

just stay away from Hot Springs unless you like crowds...

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Old 11-11-2015, 09:50 AM   #3
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Re: 3 - 4 day Ride Recommendation

And if the weather won't cooperate in AR, Big Bend and David Mountains via the Hill Country would make a nice 3-4 day ride option.
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Old 11-11-2015, 10:46 AM   #4
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And if the weather won't cooperate in AR, Big Bend and David Mountains via the Hill Country would make a nice 3-4 day ride option.
+1 or head up the natchez trace to Tennessee and back.
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Old 11-11-2015, 12:14 PM   #5
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Where you go depends on how many miles your planning on riding per day. Since your new to motorcycling that is a important question to ask yourself. I like all the ideas above. A inner loop around Texas,a ride to Arkansas,Cloudcroft,Big Bend all are tempting. You could even do a Twisted Sisters ride. There is plenty to see right here in Texas. Are you motorcycle camping or moteling it? If it was warmer I would say Northern New Mexico if you had at least 4 days.
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Old 11-11-2015, 12:48 PM   #6
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I think we'll be comfortable with about 400 - 500 miles/day. The most we've done is about 300 miles and I think we'd be able to do 400 - 500 pretty comfortably. We're going to be getting a motel wherever we go. I think we might do Arkansas as I haven't been there since I was young. I've read the pig trail is pretty nice?
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Pig trail is nice, short but nice. Look up AR123 from Charksville to the Jasper area. Lots of good riding in the Jasper area.
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Arkansas will be chilly by then. Hit the hill country west of austin.
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Old 11-11-2015, 05:43 PM   #9
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Arkansas will be chilly by then. Hit the hill country west of austin.
It just depends on the luck of the draw. I've been there late November and even in December when the weather was fantastic... and when it just sucked... But yeah, in general it is likely to be on the cool side in a few weeks

There is a big difference between a 300 mile day and a 500 mile day if you are not used to doing the 500 mile days. If you are used to 300 mile days, your body knows this. Once you start getting much over 300 miles, your body will remind you of this. You will likely feel more sore and tired than normal. The chances for mistakes will go up considerably in that last 150 miles or so. I used to lead a lot of group rides and I could see this every single day of a weekend rally once we started getting over about 250 miles into a 300 mile route. People would start getting sloppy in the corners with their lines. They would be more likely to blow corners. As a result, I would always start backing down the pace after that first 250 miles. This is especially true if you are riding on roads that are twistier than what you are used to riding. They will demand more focus and concentration than you are used to maintaining. That alone will fatigue you. My point is NOT to dissuade you from going, but just to make you aware of the potential issues. There are things you can do that will help.

Probably the biggest thing you can do is just stop and get OFF the bike every 100 miles or so whether you need to or not. Just spend at least five minutes walking around, maybe do a few stretches or squats. This does wonders not only for keeping you from getting sore from sitting in one position all day, but it also helps a great deal with keeping you mentally alert. I usually make it a gas/snack stop regardless of whether I need gas.

If you are fine with better living through chemistry, then I suggest the following. The night before you leave, take a full dose of something like ibuprofen before going to bed. Do it again with breakfast. Then do a half dose with lunch and dinner (and maybe before bed if you are sore). Do this each day. It will make a big difference unless you are just one of those young guys that still has good joints

Good gear is critical. If it is cold, you need gear that will keep you warm, not just alive. Cold hands get VERY stiff and if needed in an emergency are SLOW to respond to your command inputs. Keep your torso warm and that will help the rest of your body stay warm. Gear that will keep out the wind and any rain is what you want. A good balaclava helps as well,

Amazon.com: Klim 3116-001-000-000 Balaclava: Sports & Outdoors Amazon.com: Klim 3116-001-000-000 Balaclava: Sports & Outdoors




This will keep the wind off your neck and face. It is amazing how well this one works. I have it and love it. It also doubles as a goofy looking cap to keep my balding head warm just by pulling it up over my face but leaving it on the top of my head and ears.

While riding, I would avoid big meals. Big meals can make you drowsy, which is rarely a good thing on the bike. Maybe get in a big breakfast if you like so long as you wait a while before setting off on the bikes. Once riding, I like to keep the meals light and maybe snack if I get hungry. Then enjoy the big dinner once off the bike.

You may already use them, but I also highly recommend ear plugs. I just use the cheap foam ones you can get at Wal-Mart, Walgreens, etc.... I take a bunch with me so I don't have to worry about losing them, dropping them, or getting them dirty. The low frequency buffeting from then wind, even in a full face helmet, can significantly contribute to your sense of fatigue over the course of the day. You might not realize it, but it does.

Keep in mind that this time of year, the days are short. So if you plan to do any 500 mile days, you WILL be riding in the dark for a good portion of those days. A GOOD headlight is a must. This time of year is prime time for critters of all sizes to be out and about on the roads in the evenings and at night. If your headlight is not a good one, I would give serious consideration to adding some kind of after market lighting. At a minimum, I'd see if the light housing can handle a bulb upgrade (some will melt with the higher wattage bulbs).

Regardless of where you go, you will likely have to do a long day there and a long day back. The Big Bend area is nice and will likely be warmer than Arkansas. This time of year, if you head to New Mexico and get into any serious elevation (5000'+) it WILL be cold. If you can do it, I'd watch the weather and try to go right after a front passes through. While it might be cold, it usually means clearer sunny days. If you can go during the week instead of on a weekend, even better because the roads will be less crowded and in some places the hotels will be cheaper as well.
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Old 11-11-2015, 05:52 PM   #10
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It just depends on the luck of the draw. I've been there late November and even in December when the weather was fantastic... and when it just sucked... But yeah, in general it is likely to be on the cool side in a few weeks

There is a big difference between a 300 mile day and a 500 mile day if you are not used to doing the 500 mile days. If you are used to 300 mile days, your body knows this. Once you start getting much over 300 miles, your body will remind you of this. You will likely feel more sore and tired than normal. The chances for mistakes will go up considerably in that last 150 miles or so. I used to lead a lot of group rides and I could see this every single day of a weekend rally once we started getting over about 250 miles into a 300 mile route. People would start getting sloppy in the corners with their lines. They would be more likely to blow corners. As a result, I would always start backing down the pace after that first 250 miles. This is especially true if you are riding on roads that are twistier than what you are used to riding. They will demand more focus and concentration than you are used to maintaining. That alone will fatigue you. My point is NOT to dissuade you from going, but just to make you aware of the potential issues. There are things you can do that will help.

Probably the biggest thing you can do is just stop and get OFF the bike every 100 miles or so whether you need to or not. Just spend at least five minutes walking around, maybe do a few stretches or squats. This does wonders not only for keeping you from getting sore from sitting in one position all day, but it also helps a great deal with keeping you mentally alert. I usually make it a gas/snack stop regardless of whether I need gas.

If you are fine with better living through chemistry, then I suggest the following. The night before you leave, take a full dose of something like ibuprofen before going to bed. Do it again with breakfast. Then do a half dose with lunch and dinner (and maybe before bed if you are sore). Do this each day. It will make a big difference unless you are just one of those young guys that still has good joints

Good gear is critical. If it is cold, you need gear that will keep you warm, not just alive. Cold hands get VERY stiff and if needed in an emergency are SLOW to respond to your command inputs. Keep your torso warm and that will help the rest of your body stay warm. Gear that will keep out the wind and any rain is what you want. A good balaclava helps as well,

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This will keep the wind off your neck and face. It is amazing how well this one works. I have it and love it. It also doubles as a goofy looking cap to keep my balding head warm just by pulling it up over my face but leaving it on the top of my head and ears.

While riding, I would avoid big meals. Big meals can make you drowsy, which is rarely a good thing on the bike. Maybe get in a big breakfast if you like so long as you wait a while before setting off on the bikes. Once riding, I like to keep the meals light and maybe snack if I get hungry. Then enjoy the big dinner once off the bike.

You may already use them, but I also highly recommend ear plugs. I just use the cheap foam ones you can get at Wal-Mart, Walgreens, etc.... I take a bunch with me so I don't have to worry about losing them, dropping them, or getting them dirty. The low frequency buffeting from then wind, even in a full face helmet, can significantly contribute to your sense of fatigue over the course of the day. You might not realize it, but it does.

Keep in mind that this time of year, the days are short. So if you plan to do any 500 mile days, you WILL be riding in the dark for a good portion of those days. A GOOD headlight is a must. This time of year is prime time for critters of all sizes to be out and about on the roads in the evenings and at night. If your headlight is not a good one, I would give serious consideration to adding some kind of after market lighting. At a minimum, I'd see if the light housing can handle a bulb upgrade (some will melt with the higher wattage bulbs).

Regardless of where you go, you will likely have to do a long day there and a long day back. The Big Bend area is nice and will likely be warmer than Arkansas. This time of year, if you head to New Mexico and get into any serious elevation (5000'+) it WILL be cold. If you can do it, I'd watch the weather and try to go right after a front passes through. While it might be cold, it usually means clearer sunny days. If you can go during the week instead of on a weekend, even better because the roads will be less crowded and in some places the hotels will be cheaper as well.
This is what I was hinting about in my earlier post. Scott just said it way better and with much more detail. Plan your stops ahead of time if possible and leave some time also for pictures and such.
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Old 11-11-2015, 06:42 PM   #11
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I actually wrote an article about these things (shameless plug)
http://www.averagecarguy.com/5-tips-...ng-moto-trips/
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Old 11-11-2015, 07:58 PM   #12
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Big Bend is darn near 700 miles away from you. It is pretty for sure, but that is a lot of boring riding for a little bit of scenery when you get there. Mena, however is only about 350 miles away from you and if it isn't too cold; would be a good little ride.

Or just keep it local and I'll echo the Hill Country suggestions that others have made.
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Ride State Highway 16 from Antelope to Zapata or get you a Roads of Texas and browse it looking for side attractions and things. Ride through East Texas forest and go to Paris then London!
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400-500 miles per day? If this is your first long distance ride, I'd suggest scaling that back a bit.
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Old 11-13-2015, 11:21 AM   #15
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400-500 miles per day? If this is your first long distance ride, I'd suggest scaling that back a bit.
Yeppers. You can cover that distance but will it be fun??? Tim and I did shorter rides and sometimes they can be trying. Depends a bunch on how comfortable your ride is. Seat,vibration,cold or hot weather all are factors to keep in mind.
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Have you guys went on this ride yet? Just curious to see how it turned out, where you ended up going, and did you get any good pics?
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No I wish we could have, but the weather showed three days of non stop borderline freezing rain/thunderstorms so we decided to post pone!
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That's too bad. Kind of amazing how the weather is in this state. November was cold and icy and now it's supposed to be 80 degrees by the end of the week...nuts. I was supposed to meet up with a friend coming down from Clovis, NM in mid November and head out to Big Bend but our trip didn't happen either.

Well, if you guys end up heading west to Big Bend or something and are looking for tag-alongs, hit me up. I'm in San Antonio so I'm somewhere in between you and there I guess. Always looking for good people and a good trip.
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