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Old 07-12-2017, 08:01 AM   #361
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Both Metzener Karoo 3 (90/90-21 and 150/70-17)
Those are tubeless tires.

You're going to want to be able to plug those with the best plug kit made for any vehicle - the Safety Seal brand

They make regular and slim plugs. Be prepared with rubber cement as an additional step if needed. I can show you all of this at Casa Tricepilot. I have a practice tire and all the stuff.

There are other tubeless topics such as patching from the inside and installing an emergency tube. We can go over all of that.
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Old 07-12-2017, 09:27 AM   #362
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Im not sure I understand.
The tires are indeed tubeless, but I believe I have tubes installed.
I thought patching (and using rubber cement) are required only for pure tubeless setup

I will be happy to to pay Casa Tricepilot a visit.
is there a session planned for the coming few weeks?

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Old 07-12-2017, 10:06 AM   #363
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If it were me, I'd run them tubeless and carry a plug kit Fastest and simplest tire repair known to man unless the puncture is not plugable.

I can show you how to use the best plug kit available, and you can use my tubeless tire for practice with the Safety Seal stuff

Lots of riders carry a tube in the event their tubeless tire is not plug-able. I had a gash in the rear tire on my GSA that was not plugable. But you have to be prepared to completely remove the tire from the rim, and tubeless tires can be notoriously difficult unless the ideal technique is used.
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Old 07-12-2017, 10:13 AM   #364
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If it were me, I'd run them tubeless.
I believe my rims are not tubeless, so AFAIK its not an option
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Old 07-12-2017, 10:23 AM   #365
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Then tube practice it is

There are lots of good tire guys in Austin - JT, Trail Boss to name some

I'll be back in the area at the end of the month if you don't connect with one of these guys
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Old 07-12-2017, 04:44 PM   #366
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I'm always game for a refresh on the MSTA! And the shrimp cocktails by Trice's house Guess this is an excuse to get some new tires
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Old 07-13-2017, 01:31 AM   #367
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If so, please let me know once the next session is scheduled.
I'm planning to join the MexTrek #6, and I feel insecure going there without that knowledge


+1 interested party for a MSTA session at Casa TricePilot or in Austin in the coming months ahead of MexTrek.


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Old 07-13-2017, 01:19 PM   #368
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We can talk about an Austin location, I don't mind coming up on a Saturday since I'm training on kettlebells on Burnet from time to time.

I'll be out of pocket in Colorado beginning Labor Day weekend through the following week riding the COBDR

If BrotherWolf or Patrick or Shailurie wants to take the lead on a proposed hosting site and a date we can pencil this in early and get the word out.

I'll bring the full tire kit and the training assembly to the party. We can go out for a lunch or dinner too.
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Old 07-26-2017, 10:39 PM   #369
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Does anyone have experience with the "Motion Pro BeadPro Forged Steel Tire Bead Breaker"?
Is it recommended?
Can I use then as tire spoons as well?
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Old 07-26-2017, 11:23 PM   #370
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Does anyone have experience with the "Motion Pro BeadPro Forged Steel Tire Bead Breaker"?

Is it recommended?

Can I use then as tire spoons as well?


I have them, they work like a champ.


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Old 07-26-2017, 11:55 PM   #371
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I have them, they work like a champ.


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Do you keep tire spoons in addition, or use them as your spoons?
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Old 07-27-2017, 07:05 AM   #372
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Re: Mad Scientist Tire Academy

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I have them, they work like a champ.
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Do you keep tire spoons in addition, or use them as your spoons?
The tire spoon ends on the tool are excellent. I just grab one more spoon as I prefer to use three spoons whenever possible. I have nicer/better Motion Pro spoons but never use them anymore. The bead breaker spoons do it all.

I also have a set of the smaller and lighter MP aluminum bead breakers I carry on the bike. Had to use them once in Mexico and worked like a charm on a 110/80-19 tubeless tire. It was a very hot day so tire was quite warm though.

Tips:
1) Never lube or wet the tire before using these bead breaker tools. 10X easier to break the bead on a dry tire.

2) If you use Ride-On tire sealant/balancer no need to carry tire lube with you. Just dip your finger in the Ride-On goo inside the tire and use it for lube. For a tubed tire just remove the valve stem and squeeze the tube to dispense goo.

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Old 08-01-2017, 12:22 PM   #373
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Re: Mad Scientist Tire Academy

Anyone game for a refresh on tire changing? Got a new bike and some new tires to mount up too. Gonna load up some Ride-On (which I've never done) as well. I still haven't bought the Baja tool, so...uh...Trice, when is good for you
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Old 08-01-2017, 01:37 PM   #374
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Anyone game for a refresh on tire changing? Got a new bike and some new tires to mount up too. Gonna load up some Ride-On (which I've never done) as well. I still haven't bought the Baja tool, so...uh...Trice, when is good for you
Any time in August is good except for the Hotter 'N **** 100 bike ride weekend (25-27)

I can come up to Austin for this is someone wants to host at their place
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Old 08-01-2017, 01:45 PM   #375
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except for the Hotter 'N **** 100 bike ride weekend (25-27)
I haven't heard about this ride. Can you share a link?
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Old 08-02-2017, 11:14 AM   #376
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Is there a recommended pump/air compressor?
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Old 08-04-2017, 09:21 AM   #377
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Is there a recommended pump/air compressor?
Here is thread discussing pumps. Like many topics opinions vary. I carry one of the cheap slime compressors. I also carry a hand pump when riding solo incase the compressor fails.

http://www.twtex.com/forums/showthre...ght=Slime+pump
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Old 08-04-2017, 09:35 AM   #378
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Here is thread discussing pumps. Like many topics opinions vary. I carry one of the cheap slime compressors. I also carry a hand pump when riding solo incase the compressor fails.
Same here except my hand pump also accepts CO2 cartridges. So if 12V pump fails I can exhaust my packed CO2 before having to hand pump. Triple protection as I ride solo the most.

Mine is an older more compact model but same company as this.
https://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Innov.../dp/B00LQFDV8Q

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Old 08-07-2017, 01:11 PM   #379
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Hi,
is the Recommended Flat Tire Kit (page 1) is still updated?
Im about to complete my kit...
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Old 08-09-2017, 03:33 PM   #380
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Hi,
is the Recommended Flat Tire Kit (page 1) is still updated?
Im about to complete my kit...
That list is pretty comprehensive, but I don't bother with a specific valve stem nut wrench, a valve hook tool or a rubber mallet. I carry some baby powder for the fresh tube that is being installed too. Everything else is pretty spot on.

I can't host in Austin this month, let alone make it to SA. Work has me trapped for the foreseeable future
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