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Old 07-18-2018, 08:44 AM   #161
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Re: IF I were to get a dirt bike, what should I get?

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Johnf3 really knows his stuff, he's a very serious off-roader.
I'm not and never plan on becoming one. I don't know that I'll ever need a very serious off-road bike. I just like putting around in the dirt.

Maybe I should run with my dual sport hazard lights on to keep the serious off-roaders from mowing me down on the trails
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Old 07-18-2018, 08:53 AM   #162
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I really am not. As a older rider who sees our sport of true off road riding possibly dying out to a lack of new riders and a lack of places to ride, I want all new riders to have the best possible initial experiences so they stay engaged. I am just trying to give constructive feedback. I guess it may be direct, but not sure how else to communicate it.

You already have a big dual sport that you are pretty comfortable riding--your Africa Twin. I read where you talked about pushing it up over 100 mph and telling us it will wheelie in second gear. So, you may be a newer rider but you seem to be pretty comfortable on a motorcycle in general. You started this thread asking about a dirt bike, and indicated you are eager to hit some real motorcycle trails.

I think at the level you will be capable of riding at, you are going to run smack into the limit of what a 250L will do in a true off road situation. My perspective there is trails like at SHNF, or any true off road riding area. I am not talking about dirt roads in the Hill Country or Big Bend. A 250L is fine on that type of terrain, but I get the feeling from your posts that you want to do more than that.

I will bow out of making any further comments here. My apologies if i offended you with any of my comments. Hope to see you on the trail someday and share some nice single track with you.
No offense taken. I actually appreciate the input despite hearing I got the wrong bike. I guess that comes with asking for advice from strangers on the Internet.

I may be stupid on the street, but I'm scared of trees and rocks

I used to mountain bike a bit and I'm familiar with making a small error and smacking a tree at speed or tumbling down a rocky hill. I really don't want to relive that with a 300 lb. motorcycle coming down with me. When I take this bike on the trails, its going to be very slow. I suspect not getting run over from behind by serious off-roaders will be my main concern.

And for the record, I can't figure out how to get the front wheel up in second gear on a DCT Africa Twin
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Johnf3 really knows his stuff, he's a very serious off-roader. I like getting his opinion on stuff. But I guess the thing that deicides if this is a good bike for Jarrett is Jarrett and what he wants to do on the bike. Everyone doesn't want to rip down a trail like us guys who race and even "race" with our buddies when play riding. For his purposes this could be a good bike for him. If not he'll figure it out in short order. Either way it's got him in the game and enjoying a different discipline of riding.
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Old 07-18-2018, 09:49 AM   #164
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Re: IF I were to get a dirt bike, what should I get?

"Maybe I should run with my dual sport hazard lights on to keep the serious off-roaders from mowing me down on the trails "

Nobody insinuated this, we all have different goals in our riding. I don't look down on anyone, if you're having fun, that's all that matters. I ride a lot of street but I'm a "squid" there, I don't hang it out on the street. Everyone has their comfort zone.
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Old 07-18-2018, 11:52 AM   #165
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Re: IF I were to get a dirt bike, what should I get?

Just get out and ride the dang thing!!

You will know soon enough whether it is the right bike for what you want to do and you can move on from there. Nothing is set in stone. Woodsguy nailed it. Go have fun!
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Old 07-19-2018, 08:35 AM   #166
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Re: IF I were to get a dirt bike, what should I get?

From the sounds of it, you are already loving and using the bike for it's intended use. You enjoy running errands (on the street) and running around your pasture. Yes it's not a crazy dirt bike but you don't have to trailer it to the trail as well. Will it ride on or off road at a comfortable speed? Is it a great bike for your daughter to learn? Are you never allowed to buy a new bike again when you are ready? I think you can figure those things out. It's a great bike and does exceptional well at what it is designed for of which it sounds like you are already enjoying it for. I have enjoyed mountain bike riding, rock crawling in Jeep's, and riding motorcycles on and off road. I have never had the best tool for the job but I always had fun with what I had and what I could afford. Slow and steady wins the race. Congratulations on the purchase and enjoy it. If you ride to the limit of the bike and you want more, then make it happen. If you don't find the limits of the bike in your riding then you are good to go.

I don't claim to be a dirt bike ride in any way but the most fun I have had in single track with sand and rocks was on a CT70. Ride what you can and pick the thing up and carry it over what you can't.

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Old 07-19-2018, 09:01 AM   #167
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Good stuff, thanks

One other good use. It's a good first bike to get on. Good for friends that have never ridden before to come out and take it for a spin around the pasture in relative safety. My buddy and his wife both came out and rode it last night while their daughter played with the dogs, horses and goats. Might have a new TWT'er soon.

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Good stuff, thanks

One other good use. It's a good first bike to get on. Good for friends that have never ridden before to come out and take it for a spin around the pasture in relative safety. My buddy and his wife both came out and rode it last night while their daughter played with the dogs, horses and goats. Might have a new TWT'er soon.

Most excellent! still may get one myself.
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Old 07-19-2018, 09:46 AM   #169
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Funny thing. After riding this CRF250L only for the last couple of weeks, I hopped on my daughter's NC700X and went down at the street and back and the acceleration surprised me a little.

And it's slow compared to my big bike. Now I'm a little scared to get back on my Africa Twin

It's wild what we get used to.
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His wife took it, she's a pro photographer. She gets all the good shots even with a phone.
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Don't you hate that? It truly is the hand and not the tool with in reason.
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Funny thing. After riding this CRF250L only for the last couple of weeks, I hopped on my daughter's NC700X and went down at the street and back and the acceleration surprised me a little.

And it's slow compared to my big bike. Now I'm a little scared to get back on my Africa Twin

It's wild what we get used to.
Once you learn a bike, it's super easy to re-acclimate yourself to it. Ride 3 corners on it and you'll be back at home on it.

(at least that's my experience with the various bikes in my garage)
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Once you learn a bike, it's super easy to re-acclimate yourself to it. Ride 3 corners on it and you'll be back at home on it.

(at least that's my experience with the various bikes in my garage)
I'm sure I'll be running 100 mph on it by 9am Saturday morning
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Yep, the Serg is considering a purchase.
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lol, I've sent him 4-5 bikes off CL including that XT250 that's for sale here.

He seemed to like my CRF250L. I thought that or a KLR650 might be a good place to start.
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Ha! Spread the good word..... Did that MC come with AC though? After walking outside to give the plants a little water I think I wilted just a bit...
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