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Old 05-15-2018, 09:14 PM   #401
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Re: Mad Scientist Tire Academy

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If the outer plate is pressed in to tolerance (same as the other non-clip link measurement) and the clip itself is installed blunt end forward, and the link overall is inspected for wear (like the rest of the chain should be), then I shouldn't think clip type master links should be delivering these results.
dunno about all that installation stuff since it is the chain that was on the bike when i got her. but as for the overall inspection, i may have gotten lax lately...i'm a little ocd about cleaning and lubing but now i require readers to really SEE the chain...dang it sux gettin old
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Old 05-15-2018, 09:29 PM   #402
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We're talkin' about returning to Ole Mexico in the fall with the dirty bikes. This time with at least one chain tool fo' sho'
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Old 05-15-2018, 10:45 PM   #403
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really? when in the fall? not october?

JT and I just might have matching 250's by then...
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Old 05-15-2018, 10:57 PM   #404
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really? when in the fall? not october?

JT and I just might have matching 250's by then...
Matching as in two TTRs Gina, or are you going another route?
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Old 05-15-2018, 11:11 PM   #405
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Re: Mad Scientist Tire Academy

well, i may be letting the cat out of the bag prematurely....he is looking at a suzuki 250. hush now.

oh, and hush yore mouth--i'll keep Sally til i'm too old to throw a leg over her.
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Old 05-16-2018, 07:43 AM   #406
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Fast forward to about the 4:50 mark in the video to see a demo of what I consider the BEST tire plug kit on the market, for motos, cars, trucks etc with tubeless tires.

I carry this kit on the 1200 GSA and there's one in my truck

Be aware that:

(1) Safety Seal makes two sizes of string plugs

(2) The addition of additional plugs and/or rubber cement may make or break certain plug attempts

(3) Gas station style plug kits are an order of magnitude inferior to Safety Seal

(4) You have to practice with this kit as is always preached here, as tire skills are perishable skills
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Old 05-16-2018, 09:34 AM   #407
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I need one of those yellow crayons that doesn't break. There's probably a coffee can full of broken pieces laying around here.
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Old 05-16-2018, 11:12 AM   #408
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We're talkin' about returning to Ole Mexico in the fall with the dirty bikes. This time with at least one chain tool fo' sho'
Yes a chain press should be used even with clip type master link. I have seen them preyed, beaten, squeezed one side at a time and treated with all manner of disrespect. The clip can get sprung from poor install or removal. The clip needs to slide straight in or out of the grooves.

There will always be those who rivet as it is no doubt a more secure method if done properly. There are those who will clip due to the fact they can remove on the road/trail side if necessary. Which ever you chose be sure to use proper tools and techniques to ensure they work as designed. Then follow up with inspection on some frequency.

I carry one of these small press tools and spare link. I recommend to order spare master links when replacing chain so you know you have the correct links for your chain.
https://www.motionpro.com/product/08-0070

They also make a special plier for clip install. These are not a must have but, they allow you to push straight on the clip.
https://www.motionpro.com/product/08-0230


One last thought about chains and spare parts. Those who truly ride remote areas need to consider carrying a short piece 5-6 links of matching chain as a damaged chain usually requires removing a damaged section. This requires a chain breaker to remove the damaged section and will require 2 master links to connect the replacement section.
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Old 05-16-2018, 11:41 AM   #409
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I carry one of these small press tools and spare link. I recommend to order spare master links when replacing chain so you know you have the correct links for your chain.
https://www.motionpro.com/product/08-0070

They also make a special plier for clip install. These are not a must have but, they allow you to push straight on the clip.
https://www.motionpro.com/product/08-0070
Your second link directly above wasn't of the pliers, but a repeat of your first link. But I did find what you were thinking of on Amazon.



But having studied it and reading "one tip is shorter and notched....", I figured that I could take an existing pair of pliers and grind down one side and put a groove in it, which is what I'm about to do in the Mad Scientist Laboratory. Save $18 and have the exact same tool. I'll report back on how it goes.....
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Old 05-16-2018, 11:51 AM   #410
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I need one of those yellow crayons that doesn't break. There's probably a coffee can full of broken pieces laying around here.
I took a yellow crayola and froze it.

$8 including shipping if you order today
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Your second link directly above wasn't of the pliers, but a repeat of your first link. But I did find what you were thinking of on Amazon.



But having studied it and reading "one tip is shorter and notched....", I figured that I could take an existing pair of pliers and grind down one side and put a groove in it, which is what I'm about to do in the Mad Scientist Laboratory. Save $18 and have the exact same tool. I'll report back on how it goes.....
Thanks I have corrected the link.
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Old 05-16-2018, 12:04 PM   #412
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I had my chain put on by TJs in north Austin. Didn't bother to check it again. It stretched pretty bad over and the masterlibk fell off a couple thousand miles later lesson learned
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Old 05-16-2018, 06:44 PM   #413
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I had my chain put on by TJs in north Austin. Didn't bother to check it again. It stretched pretty bad over and the masterlibk fell off a couple thousand miles later lesson learned
I found a really good video in you're in the market to switch to rivet links

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