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Old 02-01-2017, 07:25 PM   #1
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Chain, Chain, Chain!

My chain is due for a change. What brands of chain and chain tools do y'all like?

I'm certainly pleased with the quality of chain Honda put on it. Just looking for opinions, and I don't have a chain tool.
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Old 02-01-2017, 07:30 PM   #2
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Re: Chain, Chain, Chain!

Must state model of Honda for this to work best
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Red Honda with a top box. (Sorry, that's a service writer joke.)
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Old 02-01-2017, 07:47 PM   #4
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Re: Chain, Chain, Chain!

2013 Honda NC700X
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Any crappy chain that will fit the bike (Sorry, that's a service writer joke.)
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Old 02-01-2017, 08:06 PM   #6
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Re: Chain, Chain, Chain!

Get the chain tool, it's worth it.

Says the guy who doesn't have one but always borrows one. Oh wait, my bike has a shaft drive now. Anyway.

I always liked DID chains. OEM is usually an endless chain that doesn't require a special tool but many times requires disassembly of large portions of the bike. All depends on what you are comfortable doing and how much you want to spend.

These tips though.

1. Change it if it needs it, don't put it off.
2. No clip style master link. Rivet only.
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Re: Chain, Chain, Chain!

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My chain is due for a change. What brands of chain and chain tools do y'all like?

I'm certainly pleased with the quality of chain Honda put on it. Just looking for opinions, and I don't have a chain tool.

Ebay from idaily
JT Drive Chains 520x114 Links X1R2 Heavy Duty Sealed X-ring Gold Chain

$50.47

Comes with a rivet master link and a clip master link.

Just put one on my 700x. I have used JT sprockets a long time but first time for chain.
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That was good.
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Old 02-01-2017, 08:12 PM   #9
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Stockton Chain tool kit

Will break and rivet just about any MC chain

Don't remember where I got it but probably easy to find.
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Old 02-01-2017, 08:22 PM   #10
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Neiko Chain Breaker Riveting Tool Kit | 13pc Set Cutting OHV Cam Drive ATV Motorcycle'

Walmart $18.00 Looks identical to the stockton for a whole lot less money.

The Ebay seller idaily probably has one if you search his store
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motion pro pbr tool. jt or primary drive chain
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Old 02-03-2017, 02:38 PM   #13
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Re: Chain, Chain, Chain!

Go with the best chain possible, you wont regret it. I personal have been using DID over the years and my last bike (ZX1100E) had 24K on the chain when I sold it and it was still in great shape. Don't forget the sprockets!
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Old 02-03-2017, 02:46 PM   #14
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Re: Chain, Chain, Chain!

Second the recommendation on DID. Go to sprocket center.com as a good resource. It's always a good idea to replace the sprockets at the same time. Any sprocket wear will in turn shorten the lifespan of the new chain.

Not a difficult job, hardest part is breaking the old chain without ruining the chain breaker...

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Old 02-03-2017, 02:49 PM   #15
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Re: Chain, Chain, Chain!

More chain tools have been ruined with careful removal of the chain with the tool. It's going in the garbage people. There's other ways...
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Re: Chain, Chain, Chain!

I like DID X-Ring chains, for dirt or street. I am notoriously bad about NOT lubing my chains, but I DO try to keep them clean and not rusty. They are lubed internally, hence the rings sealing in the grease. Keeping them clean preserves the rings and prolongs their life. I typically got about 20-24K miles from a chain using this method on my VFR 800s.

I use the same routine for my KTM 530 EXC. Anything I might put on the chain to lube it will just allow dirt/grit to stick to the chain and act like sand paper on the rings. I keep the rust off and that is it.

To totally blow a few head gaskets, I will admit that I use WD-40 to remove water from the chains and prevent rust, but not as a lube! I spray then immediately wipe off the excess. I usually do it after washing the bikes. If the chains get wet while riding, the water flings off so I don't worry about it.
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Not sure what the manual says for Red Hondas, but for White BMWs the instructions is to remove the swing arm and lubricate the bearings while there. This may sound like a pain, but it is much easier than a chain breaker. Failing to follow this instruction caused me to have to do a last minute swing arm bearing replacement before a trip. The BMW chain fits without adjustment and the Honda chain may as well. Could be a little more expensive, but I'd pay an extra $20 not to have to mess with breaking and riveting a new chain. It's worth looking up in the manual.
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Best chain tool bar none is the RK tool.

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Re: Chain, Chain, Chain!

Ditto on Sprocket Center, that's were I got my stuff. I have the motion pro chain tool set for the last 20 years and has been flawless.
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Best chain tool bar none is the RK tool.

Other than the black handle, that looks almost exactly like the Motion Pro set I have.

To remove the old chain, I just Dremel the head off a link pin, use the tool to push it out, and the chain comes right off. I then use the tool to spread the head of the pins on the new master link. Very easy and simple to do.

A word of experience though. If you plan to remove sprockets, loosen then nut on the drive sprocket BEFORE removing the chain It might also help to have someone apply the rear brake while you are doing it. Same for when you tighten the nut on the new sprocket.
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