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Old 08-19-2017, 12:14 PM   #481
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Re: 2017 MexTrek #6, Oct 26th to 29th 2017

Sounds like a job for JT .
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Old 08-19-2017, 05:40 PM   #482
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Sounds like a job for JT .
respectfully i know you mean " mountain goat JT " ?
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Old 08-21-2017, 11:56 AM   #483
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Does anyone have, and be willing to share, a route between Iturbide/Galeana and Gen Zaragoza that does not utilize Hwy 61 at all?

I've mapped what I believe to be pretty solid small bike routes in and out of the edges of this box, but I keep running into little dead ends on every road or decent goat trail I can find using all the various mapping programs and satellite images.


This "Dead End Area" file I attached should open a box in Google Earth that outlines the area that I'm stuck at. I have solid routes into and out of that box, but can't find anything that looks like it will take me through it from North to South.
Hi Crchristo, I have something that may interest you. I'll piece the segments of proven tracks together tonight and post it.

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Hi Crchristo, I have something that may interest you. I'll piece the segments of proven tracks together tonight and post it.



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That's great. Thanks JT!
By looking at it, I'm sure that with enough poking around there's a couple of ways through. I just can't see it from orbit!



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Old 08-21-2017, 12:52 PM   #485
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Re: 2017 MexTrek #6, Oct 26th to 29th 2017

What if you apply for your TVIP on-line, then are unable to make the trip? Do you risk not being able to receive a TVIP again in the future, since you won't be turning this one back in at the border?
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Old 08-22-2017, 01:05 PM   #486
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Hi crchristo, Here are two options for dirt routes from Iturbide to Aramberri. Run south from Iturbide to Camerones and turn west to Buena Vista or east to Carranza. The three tracks in this file are all proven tracks, just cut and paste them together to get the desired options.

We are still looking for tracks heading south from Santa Ines or San Ignacio. Maybe someone will try it this Mextrek.

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Old 08-22-2017, 08:38 PM   #487
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Re: 2017 MexTrek #6, Oct 26th to 29th 2017

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Its getting close to our trip! Lets revisit the required legal documentation you will need!

Passport (I use my passport card)
Vehicle Registration -- NOTE, your title is NOT required. You need the normal printed receipt for your current registration
Driver's Licence
Mexican Vehicle Insurance
FMM (personal tourist visa)
TVIP (visa for your vehicle)


Just a friendly reminder: you really want Mexican Insurance when in Mexico. It's not just the law, it can seriously save your butt. I personally use https://www.bajabound.com/ and maintain a annual "ACE Seguros PLATINUM" policy. It costs me $430/ year, and I go into Mexico quite regularly. This is full coverage for my 2015 KTM 690 Enduro with a declared value of $10k, and includes stuff like emergency medical evacuation, $1000 of towing, legal fee/representation protection, etc, etc. Highly recommended. This same full coverage policy for my bike on our 3 day trip would cost about $55.00.

ALSO!!

You can apply for your FMM Tourist Card and TVIP vehicle permits online. Here is some information on how to do it, if you want to save a little time with your border paperwork.
We cross the border at "Puente Internacional Anzald˙as," our destination is the "Hotel Magdalena in Galeana, NL" -- bits of information you'll need to know whether filling out the FMM in person or online. I have never personally applied online; I always just go to the physical office in Mexico and have had only minor inconveniences, none of which were insurmountable.

Here is a great walk through for how to get the FMM document online:
https://www.bajabound.com/before/permits/visa.php -- link provided by Baja Bound insurance.
Here is the official Mexican Government site where you apply for the FMM permit:
https://www.inm.gob.mx/fmme/publico/en/solicitud.html

Here is a great walk through for how to get the TVIP document online:
https://www.mexpro.com/mexico/vehicl...rt-permit.html
Here is the official Mexican Government site where you apply for the TVIP permit:
https://www.banjercito.com.mx/registroVehiculos/

One reason to consider getting your permits online is because the officials at the border are not always 100% honest, and many of us have been "forced" to buy a 6 month visa for $500pesos (about $30), when you can get a FREE 7 day tourist visa when entering by land, as we are on our trip.
"I'm sorry sir, we do not offer the free permits at this office...."

For whatever its worth, I buy the 6 month/ 180 day visa. and reuse it throughout the year. This once was frowned upon or illegal, but the INM delegate for Baja California (Norte) announced in September 2015 that the FMM is now valid for multiple entry for land travel in Baja California only. We are not going to Baja, but I choose to do this anyway.

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While on the subject, I personally have found that I get the best Dollars-to-Peso exchange rate when using local ATM's, provided I buy $3,000 to $5,000 pesos at a time. With my bank (a normal Wells Fargo checking account) the functional exchange rate is about $17 pesos to $1 USD after fees, etc. I would expect to spend less that $5000 on this trip; probably less than $3,000 pesos. $5,000 pesos is a bit less than $300 (after exchange fees, etc). Gasoline probably is going to cost aprox $3.70/ gallon most of the time. Aside from our hotel and food (and beer) there's not much to spend your money on in Galeana.

Remember to contact your bank and your phone service before crossing the border so you don't get any hick-ups to these important services! I use AT&T for my mobile phone and they offer free unlimited calls and text from Mexico to the US, plus I consume data normally there (no roaming fees), albeit with slightly slower speeds. Expect to not have cell phone coverage about half the time, but it's generally there in some form of weak signal in most small towns.
I also carry a DeLorme inReach satellite tracker with texting capabilities. The one time I *REALLY* wished I had it, I didn't, and now make it a point to try to keep the battery charged and on me.

One final thought,
With over 100 riders registered to attend, we need to break up into smaller groups to not overwhelm the local roads, officials, lunch stops, gas stops, etc, etc... Sid Shaddack and I are leading the 2nd group leaving McAllen. Our driving style in Mexico is: drive about 70mph most of the time, lane split in towns and at stop lights, pass aggressively on highways, absolutely NEVER LEAVE ANYONE BEHIND. I'll have my SENA headset and small HAM radio linked, and we'll have a rider safety meeting before taking off, coordinating our radios/COMs for anyone that (optionally) wishes to do so. We tend to go quick and a bit more on the aggressive side, but we also stay together. This of course is adjusted according to the conditions and the needs of our group, but just a heads up that even though our group is leaving a bit later than the first group, we will not be the slow one. So in other words, we'll be getting a relaxed breakfast and coffee before taking off, then hauling butt.

I'm looking forward to seeing y'all there!
Fang, I'm trying to be an Overachiever. It looks like an invalid date error comes up on the Government FMM site when I enter Oct 26 2017. Anyone else notice that, or is it just me looking forward to The MexTrek?

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Old 08-22-2017, 09:00 PM   #488
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Re: 2017 MexTrek #6, Oct 26th to 29th 2017

I ran into the same thing. You can only do it 30 days before you enter mexico
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Old 08-22-2017, 11:20 PM   #489
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Hi crchristo, Here are two options for dirt routes from Iturbide to Aramberri. Run south from Iturbide to Camerones and turn west to Buena Vista or east to Carranza. The three tracks in this file are all proven tracks, just cut and paste them together to get the desired options.

We are still looking for tracks heading south from Santa Ines or San Ignacio. Maybe someone will try it this Mextrek.

JT
Thanks JT! You filled in a couple of missing links for me. Can't wait to explore them.
I've been scouring satellite imagery for a way south from Santa Ines. It looks like it might be possible just poking down the valley, but it looks awfully sketchy about two miles in.
I'm not sure where San Ignacio is.

Sorry, haven't settled on a picture sharing site that allows linking. Here's links to the area in question before and after JT posted the GPX file.

Before JT:
https://pix.sfly.com/ym1GQY

After JT:
https://pix.sfly.com/K1FFGc
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