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Old 12-23-2003, 02:23 AM   #1
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I wanna get dirty!

Someone tell me about riding in the National forest. I bought my kid a XR80 and I picked up a KLR250. Just gathering info on the cool places to ride.
I have maps of SHNF that show close to 100 miles of trails! Who has ridden there and knows things like: do they shut the trails down after rains (I heard they do), how long does it take to dry afterwards, which side of the lake has the best trails, is camping allowed ... ? Are there any other good riding trails in the Southeastern part of the state?
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Old 12-23-2003, 09:56 AM   #2
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One thing to consider is deer hunters. This time of year, the National Forest is open to deer hunting. Not that the people are necessarily dangerous, but I wouldn't want to ride out there with them.
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Old 12-23-2003, 12:01 PM   #3
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I've never ridden out there but...WOW! 100 miles of dirt trails, AWESOME!

Where did you get your maps?

There's also some dirt trails out near Bastrop. Again, haven't been out there either. But's it's on my list.

BTW, If things work out, I'll be riding out there Jan 10th. Let me know if you want to tag along. This will be a feeling out ride. Basically taking it easy. I'll have a GPS and plan on capturing GPS track info and loading it in the computer.
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Old 12-23-2003, 12:14 PM   #4
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The trails out there are pretty fun. I used to ride there when I had my LT250R Quadracer. I never had a map, so I just tooled around and tried not to run out of gas deep in the woods somewhere. The 250R was a two-stroke racing machine with a 38mm carb so it didn't exactly sip gas like a utility 4-wheeler. The first few times I went with a friend who had a CR500. The trails are definitely set up for bikes. The Quad could ride there, just not flat out the whole time and it got pretty tight in some spots. Thankfully it only weighed 300-320 lbs, so I could manhandle it up and over and around some of the otherwise unpassable stuff.
I never took my CR500 there because I wasn't quite man enough to tame it out in the wide open pastures of my grandparent's farm, so tight woods seemed like suicide. I'm dying to get a four-stroke trail bike someday to ride back there, but that'll have to wait for a few years. I don't have the time or the money now.
As far as trail specifics and rules go, parking fees are on the honor system. You put money in an envelope and drop it in the slot. The stub off the envelope goes on the dash of your vehicle. If the rangers come by and don't see a parking pass, you can get a ticket. If they're really anal, they may check to see if the pass has a matching envelope with money in the drop box. I remember it was cheap for the amount of fun I had out there. Also make sure you have a USFS approved spark arrestor. I'm pretty sure there's a big fine for not having one as you could start a forest fire without one.
Have fun and please post ride reports. It may make me find a trail bike sooner.
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Old 12-23-2003, 12:42 PM   #5
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I used to take my son riding in the national forest when we both had dirt bikes. The trails go on forever. You will never ride them all. I have never heard of them closing when wet (heck, a good muddy run is half the fun).

Many trails are eroded by bikes and rain and have exposed roots. These roots are very slippery when wet. They reach out and grab your tires and throw you down faster than you can imagine. Some trails would be challenging for a newbie. However, there are many easy trails.

The only requirements I remember are helmets and spark arresters. Wait till hunting season is over. I have heard guys shoot close to where we were riding. Not fun. Also, remind me to tell you about the time I had to hoist my son and his XR-80 out of a 8 foot deep hole beside one of the trails.

To get there, go north from Houston on I-45 to New Waverly. Turn left (west) on 1375. go past the bridge over lake Conroe (there are trails before the lake but I do not remember directions to them). About 2-3 miles past the bridge, turn right on the dirt road "Stubblefield Lake / Forest Service Road 215" I believe. Stay to the left at the fork and the parking area is on the left. Maybe 1/2 to 1 mile from 1375.
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Hey desmo,
What about the time you had to hoist your son and his XR-80 out of a 8 foot deep hole beside one of the trails?

Here's what I've got so far, a quote from another board and a couple of maps:

"Sam Houston National Forest 936-344-6205x2

At the Cagle boat ramp there is a new campground (forest service run). The trail is probably only 1/2 mile away but you can't ride to it unless you are street legal. It is right on the lake and easy to get to. Beautiful area. There are two sides of the lake to ride on and this is just about right in the middle with a dual sport. At Kelly's pond you can camp, no hook-ups. From there you can go stright to the trails as it is a trailhead. Also Stubblefield Lake campground but again you can't ride your bike to the trails although it is real close to a trailhead. I would guess over 100 miles of marked trails. Be sure and stay on the trails, there are no open riding areas. Call first!"

East trail map
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Old 12-23-2003, 01:36 PM   #7
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grrrrr... HERE is the East side map East trail map - really
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Old 12-23-2003, 02:47 PM   #8
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Swwinger,

My directions are to the Trail Head on the west map (labeled "rai Haad" on the upper left corner of the map you posted). Have fun.

By the way, I have some old motocross boots and a helmet that my son outgrew. Maybe you could use them. Let me know if interested and I will find them in the attic and check the sizes and condition.

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Old 01-20-2004, 11:56 AM   #9
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Here is a better (Forest Service) map of the west trails:

http://www.southernregion.fs.fed.us/...m_mu_west1.jpg

They also have a toll free phone number with a recording about closures (888-361-6908). They do close after heavy rains to prevent erosion.

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Old 01-21-2004, 02:23 PM   #10
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How are these trails for mountain bikes? Much motorized traffic? Many mountain bikes?

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Old 01-21-2004, 05:37 PM   #11
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Desmo - I already have boots and a helmet for my boy - he's 12. Thanks for the offer. Don't run up there and check but roughly what size are they?

Irondawg - Did you ever make it out to the trails on the 10th? I thought about dropping by but figured the mud would be horrific. We are going to try again this Saturday 1/24 if it doesn't rain too much more this week.
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Old 05-14-2004, 11:00 AM   #12
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For those looking for trail info, check these sites for maps, rules, closures, events, etc.

http://www.southernregion.fs.fed.us/...g_dc_sab.shtml
http://www.trh-cycle.org/
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Old 07-22-2004, 07:44 PM   #13
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I like the trails in the SHNF pretty good. You need to watch it though, its not hard to get lost if you are not familiar. Trail Riders of Houston does a couple of family enduros out there during the year. The next one is on Aug 1st. They close the trails when it rains too much to cut down on erosion. You can get a pass for the multi use trails in the national forest from the Forest service office on 1375 a couple of miles west of 45. They are open saturday mornings too now. 1-888-361-6908


www.trh-cycle.org is the site for the Trail Riders of Houston they also have a meeting the first monday of every month. Nice group of people, and real family oriented.
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Hey Bagwell,

What do you ride on the trails?

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Can you hear it Scott?! It's calling ....
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Hehe... oh yeah... I can hear it.... waaahhhh waaaahhhh... at 2:00am in the morning... I can't do squat until my VFR sells. And even then it seems that money is already spoken for: new garage doors, new tires for the cars, new brakes for the Saturn... It never ends and is only going to get worse in the coming months

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Trust me, I understand! I've got to sell the NX now too, then probably Dawn's car. We only have about a month left before the house is filled with the sounds and smells of a child...

You might consider parting the VFR out on ebay. That seems to be popular right now. Some of the parts that I'm using on the Trump came from a beautiful 2001 Daytona that the guy decided to part out instead of sell. Bidding was like pirahna's on a calf.

I've got to find someone to give me a dirt bike. Hear me folks? It doesn't have to be pretty! I have a habit to feed! Need... dirt... bike........
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My poor KTM has winter disease bad, I'm out for this year it's going to be too much work, shame it's go no mileage on it even.

I must have turne the gas on to the carb at some point while it was sitting up, and gas fouled the carb and looks like it even ended up getting down the intake into the cylinder and gumming that up as well. :angryfir: It's so bad I can't even get the slide to move in the carb at all.

I'm going to have to take it all the way down to the bones before I can take it anywhere again and trust it.

And unless I find a new KTM dealer I can actually trust, even as far away as Houston, I'll be doing it myself.
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