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Old 03-20-2017, 03:23 AM   #21
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I just got an Acerbis 6.6gal... it's massive. I haven't installed it yet, but fuel should not be an issue for me...

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Old 03-20-2017, 05:58 AM   #22
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Wow! Your going to have a two wheeled portable fuel depot. Just need to rig up a special docking hose so you can re-fuel bikes on the fly, like they do with the air force fleet. Maybe start Matts while you ride re-fueling service. "So next time you ride, don't roll the dice, better bring Matt along, or pay the price!"
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Old 03-20-2017, 10:09 AM   #23
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Let me know how it rides with the extra weight up top.
What bike is that on? Acerbis designs do appear to carry the weight higher up than a Safari. Plan your fuel stops right and you can get $25 of free gas at Sandy Valley.

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Old 03-22-2017, 04:03 PM   #26
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Too much fuel/weight can be an issue also if your susp is not set up for it. Can be a real issue in the desert sand.
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Old 03-22-2017, 06:59 PM   #27
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I will be there. Hopefully, I don't crash to hard before then. Riding a lot this summer.
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Old 03-28-2017, 07:16 AM   #29
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Been really wanting to do this! Can someone please post up or pm me more details. How many days? Things to pack. Do I need a bigger fuel tank for my 500 exc-f? Sorry to rant! Thanks
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Been really wanting to do this! Can someone please post up or pm me more details. How many days? Things to pack. Do I need a bigger fuel tank for my 500 exc-f? Sorry to rant! Thanks
Plan on at least a week to get out there and back. The ride is the Friday and Saturday after Thanksgiving. I like parking at the Orleans in Vegas and then riding to the start. 100 mile range is about as little as one can get away with. Plan on your mileage being worse in the sand. Plan on temps being between 35F and 80F. Pray for rain to keep the dust down. Bring goggles and a roll chart holder. GPS doesn't always work out there. Bring water for two days and powerbars, flat repair stuff, tools and spares. Get your hotels lined up first, then sign up. Check the D37 Dual Sport message board for lots and lots of advice.

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Thank you! Looks like I better get busy
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You had better be ready for temps variation from the lower 20s, up to around 80. Once the sun goes down, frigid temps are the norm out in the desert. I would say 2 out of 3 times you do this ride it will likely snow on you at some point. Last year the temps weren't too very harsh. Which means this year they quite likely could be.
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Lastly I have seen a cheap space blanket come in VERY handy when a rider gets either injured, or a bike breaks down leaving someone stuck in the desert as the sun sets.
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Lastly I have seen a cheap space blanket come in VERY handy when a rider gets either injured, or a bike breaks down leaving someone stuck in the desert as the sun sets.
Thanks for the advice gents! Count me as a definite in. Already scheduled the time off! Now to get me and the bike ready
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I am really considering this ride. Seems like a lot of fun! Can anyone compare the easy vs hard routes? I just got my hands on an 09 400XC-W that seems like it would work well...
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The easy routes are not real technical, other than major sand. Yes you will ride some rough rocky terrain and see some mud here or there, but it isn't super dificult riding. The hard way challenges are certainly that! You will be doing some pretty technical rock hopping that challenges all but the most accomplished of riders. Remember you are in SoCal where riding dirt bikes is a state sport. I don't think they even let you move on from grade school until you have mastered dirt riding. So when they say hard way...you can bank on it being the truth!
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I've not ridden the hard sections to date and may not. It's a fun ride without the additional technical issues. Some vids can be found of guys working in teams to push their bikes through Red Rock, especially if there is snow. About 65% of the bikes are small KTMs.

To echo Donny, what surprised me was the sand. I had ridden lots of sand in East Texas and Big Bend, but none was preparation for Southern California. Even guys that are proficient at sand riding will find it difficult at times because of the novices stopped in the bottle necks and speed limits in the tortoise zones. Traffic can be a surprise hazard on this ride.
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The easy routes are not real technical, other than major sand. Yes you will ride some rough rocky terrain and see some mud here or there, but it isn't super dificult riding. The hard way challenges are certainly that! You will be doing some pretty technical rock hopping that challenges all but the most accomplished of riders. Remember you are in SoCal where riding dirt bikes is a state sport. I don't think they even let you move on from grade school until you have mastered dirt riding. So when they say hard way...you can bank on it being the truth!
Sounds like the "easy" route will be the one my bud and I will plan to take! I do not want to break the bike, or myself on my first trip out west! It really is a shame that kids just aren't into dirt bikes as much as they once were. I am 28, and I think I came in on the tail end of the craze. I remember being mesmerized by Jeremy McGrath as a child.

BTW I dig the radio show Donny! I went back and listened to all of them via podcasts after discovering it.
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I've not ridden the hard sections to date and may not. It's a fun ride without the additional technical issues. Some vids can be found of guys working in teams to push their bikes through Red Rock, especially if there is snow. About 65% of the bikes are small KTMs.

To echo Donny, what surprised me was the sand. I had ridden lots of sand in East Texas and Big Bend, but none was preparation for Southern California. Even guys that are proficient at sand riding will find it difficult at times because of the novices stopped in the bottle necks and speed limits in the tortoise zones. Traffic can be a surprise hazard on this ride.
We are on a deer lease in East Texas, so I hear what you mean about the sand there. I bet it is nothing like the stuff out in California though! I can't imagine not being able to carry speed (your best friend IMO) through deep sand due to traffic...

So in the tortoise zones, speed is limited to what?
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I think the diferance in our sand VS desert sand is that theirs is a courser texture with less moisture, so you can really sink down into it very well. As I recall the tortoise zones were slow, but not hopelessly so. I wanna say it was 20 or 25. But in deep desert sand that is still a work out. You don't truly plane out on top until around 40+. And Meriden is right about there being lots of traffic. Which in the dusty desert makes for choking thick dust clouds. So you are riding along usually in that first hour or two, thru the desert toolies at a spirited clip, with near white out visibilities at times until the riders get more spread out later in the day. Lets just say there can be spontanious moments of excitement here and there out on the course.
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