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Old 11-14-2018, 03:37 PM   #81
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Re: Honda DCT Discussion Thread

There's an all black one too.

I did NOT need to see the Yellow and Black one, thankyouverymuch!
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Old 11-14-2018, 04:02 PM   #82
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There's an all black one too.

I did NOT need to see the Yellow and Black one, thankyouverymuch!
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Old 11-16-2018, 03:26 PM   #83
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I have owned about 40 different motorcycles, the AT DCT (after my farkles) is the most pleasurable bike I have ever owned.
I was thinking about this last night. That's a powerful statement.

So unlike me, you were used to riding manual bikes and now that you've owned a couple DCT bikes, you said you find it hard to buy a non-DCT bike because you like that tech so much. Pretty interesting.
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Old 11-16-2018, 03:43 PM   #84
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I started reading about DCT on the newest Goldwings (yes, I'm interested). Seems not everyone is satisfied and some ride manual mode most of the time. Do you have that experience, Jarrett?
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Old 11-16-2018, 04:12 PM   #85
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I started reading about DCT on the newest Goldwings (yes, I'm interested). Seems not everyone is satisfied and some ride manual mode most of the time. Do you have that experience, Jarrett?
Keep in mind, this is still a relative newbie talking. Everyone rides for a different reason, it seems. For me, its just to be out there flying along enjoying the scenery with as few distractions as possible. For that, the DCT system is pretty nice, imo.

I personally can't imagine why someone would buy a DCT bike and only ride it in manual mode, but if that does it for them, then its all good. Everyone has their reason for riding.

I guess I could see dropping it into manual mode for a specific set of corners to feel more engaged, but I don't typically. I leave it in S3 (most aggressive) mode all the time, so it feels pretty engaged to me.

Personally, I only last about 5 minutes in manual mode before I put it back in auto and start focusing on just enjoying the ride again and not thinking about what button I have to push next. Maybe if I learn to ride better, I will come to appreciate manual mode more? I dunno.

And to be clear, you can also manually shift while in auto mode. If I'm coming up to a stop sign, I start downshifting before I hit the brakes. If coming up to a corner, I downshift before I get into it so I have more power on tap coming out the other side. If I'm waiting to pass a car, sometimes I'll downshift preemptively before the lane is clear, stuff like that. It's not all or nothing in auto mode.

It's cool to have all that flexibility though. Can pick and choose manual or auto every time you get on the bike. Whatever you feel like that day. Same with D and S modes. D mode is considerably different than S3 on my bikes. D will typically have me in 6th gear at around 30 mph, where S3 might have me in 3rd or 4th as I'm accelerating past 100

Speaking of GW's, if I keep riding long enough, I suspect a DCT Goldwing will eventually find its way into my garage. That's a big investment though.
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Old 11-16-2018, 04:14 PM   #86
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I'd be curious to hear how longer time DCT riders like MisterK, Simmons1 and Uncle Buck use theirs at this point.
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Old 11-16-2018, 05:20 PM   #87
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I'd be curious to hear how longer time DCT riders like MisterK, Simmons1 and Uncle Buck use theirs at this point.
I push the "D/S" button twice to put it in sport mode since I prefer the way the bike shifts in sport mode 1 over regular "D" drive mode for most of my normal running around. If i feel I don't like the gear i'm in, it's easy enough to just tap the toggle up our down and it shifts immediately. But I don't have to do that very often. The computer does a pretty good job shifting, even when I want to really accelerate. Just twist the throttle and it goes. I use the toggle for engine braking mostly and it works great. If it's really curvy, I'll use sport II or sport III modes, less manual toggling that way. On the gravel roads and trails, I'll use sport II and put it in gravel mode and lower the traction control or disable it depending on the surface conditions.

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Old 11-16-2018, 10:32 PM   #88
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Jarrett, check out motorweek this week, they showed the new edition goldwing. It looks soooo nice. 27k for dct I believe
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Old 11-17-2018, 01:09 AM   #89
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Jarrett, check out motorweek this week, they showed the new edition goldwing. It looks soooo nice. 27k for dct I believe
In my experience, Honda or Russellville, Arkansas is where you want to buy any Honda if you are looking for a deal.

For Goldwings, they are about 2-3K below list and that is everything but Texas tax and registration so no freight / handling or other fees.

I think you can get a DCT Tour for about 24K OTD. If you call them, they'll quote you right over the phone and it will be that number when you arrive. They don't play games, they just sell a lot of bikes so they can afford thin margins.

My bet is they'll sell just about any Honda at 10% under list OTD for current year model and for 15% under list for new stock last year's model but call them to verify when you are ready and they'll give an actual number.
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In my experience, Honda or Russellville, Arkansas is where you want to buy any Honda if you are looking for a deal.

For Goldwings, they are about 2-3K below list and that is everything but Texas tax and registration so no freight / handling or other fees.

I think you can get a DCT Tour for about 24K OTD. If you call them, they'll quote you right over the phone and it will be that number when you arrive. They don't play games, they just sell a lot of bikes so they can afford thin margins.

My bet is they'll sell just about any Honda at 10% under list OTD for current year model and for 15% under list for new stock last year's model but call them to verify when you are ready and they'll give an actual number.
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Old 11-17-2018, 08:38 AM   #91
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In my experience, Honda of Russellville, Arkansas is where you want to buy any Honda if you are looking for a deal.
Or to use their online pricing for local bargaining power
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Old 11-17-2018, 09:00 AM   #92
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Or to use their online pricing for local bargaining power
Meh, if the local guys want my business, they'll advertise a competitive price and won't play games. I'd drive/fly to Arkansas to not play games.
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Old 11-17-2018, 10:57 AM   #93
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Meh, if the local guys want my business, they'll advertise a competitive price and won't play games. I'd drive/fly to Arkansas to not play games.
That's 800 miles with a trailer + another trip during work hours to the local tax office after the fact. If the local dealer can get within a couple hundred dollars or so from their price, I'll save my time and wear and tear on my truck and trailer. So far in my experience, they will.
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Old 11-17-2018, 11:11 AM   #94
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Couple hundred dollars equals a cheap plane ticket. Then you get to do your break in in Arkansas.
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Gotta take an Uber to airport, $100?

Looks like $242 to Ft.Smith and $271 to Little Rock for non stop flight

Then gotta figure out how to cover the 80 miles to Russellville. Rent a car? $50? Then drop off the rent car and catch a ride to the dealership?

Then speed time getting the bike and ride back from Arkansas at night or spend the night and ride back during daylight? Another 80 bones.

Or rent a truck and a trailer and drive the 800 miles while paying $200 in gas? Or borrow a truck and trailer and pay $200 in gas.

Don't forget taking off work and standing in line at the local tax office to find out you have the wrong docs and have to go home and have the dealership overnight you some missing signature or form, then take off work again and go back to the tax office.

OR pay a little more and get it all handled in an hour at your local dealership.
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+1 for Honda of Russellville. Saved $2401 on my AT (non-DCT; I like my clutch and shifting gears) over the best deal I could get in Houston. Paid for the trip, hotel, and a number of goodies.
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Saved $2401
That'd be worth it to me as well.
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Is it a pain to tear down? That'd be my worry. Of course, it's a Honda, not a Harley, so maybe you wouldn't have to tear it down.
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I'd be curious to hear how longer time DCT riders like MisterK, Simmons1 and Uncle Buck use theirs at this point.


Auto, s2 all the time. D if I am droning on the slab for 100s of miles, S3 in twisties, manual on a rocky or dirty hillclimb (1/10 of 1/2% of the time)


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Gotta take an Uber to airport, $100?

Looks like $242 to Ft.Smith and $271 to Little Rock for non stop flight

Then gotta figure out how to cover the 80 miles to Russellville. Rent a car? $50? Then drop off the rent car and catch a ride to the dealership?

Then speed time getting the bike and ride back from Arkansas at night or spend the night and ride back during daylight? Another 80 bones.

Or rent a truck and a trailer and drive the 800 miles while paying $200 in gas? Or borrow a truck and trailer and pay $200 in gas.

Don't forget taking off work and standing in line at the local tax office to find out you have the wrong docs and have to go home and have the dealership overnight you some missing signature or form, then take off work again and go back to the tax office.

OR pay a little more and get it all handled in an hour at your local dealership.
Still would be worth it to not play games. I hate hate hate negotiating and playing games. If the local dealer wants my business they'll post a competitive price. As it happens, my GSX-S1000 was one of the best prices posted in the country, right here in town, thus they got my business.

I'll compare, wouldn't do it to save a couple hundred between listed prices, but I'm not taking Russleville's price in to a dealer advertising $2500 more to start the negotiation games. Russleville posting a better price means they want my business and the local places don't.
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