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Old 07-10-2018, 03:10 PM   #121
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Re: IF I were to get a dirt bike, what should I get?

I just picked up my sons CRF250L from CA a week or so ago and rode it around the a little bit, it is pretty nice. 6 speed and runs strong for a little guy. Honda has a CRF450L coming out

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Old 07-10-2018, 03:12 PM   #122
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Re: IF I were to get a dirt bike, what should I get?

Try not to get hung up on finding the "perfect" bike right out of the gate. They don't exist. If you buy any used bike for a reasonable price, you should be able to ride it long enough to see what you like or dislike, and then sell it without taking a beating. Bikes like the XRs, KLRs, DRZs, etc, tend to reach a lower limit on the price and then never drop below that unless they are just trashed. So, unless you trash them you can usually get back out of them for close to what it cost to get into them, sometimes more...The only issue for you really will be the suspension because of the weight. If you don't get that sorted on any of the bikes you try, you will likely be disappointed with them, regardless of power. I would definitely try to accept the offer of a test ride on 2WheelNut's WR450 since he already has it set up for a rider your size.
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Old 07-10-2018, 03:20 PM   #123
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Some sweet air would be nice...

26 lbs difference? Does it really feel that much heavier with that small of a difference? Especially considering I'm probably 285 lbs with all the gear on?
Speaking of catching air, I did a heal clicker once...didn't mean too.

Back in the day when there were 125, 250 and 400-500 cc two stroke motocross bikes around, I rode/raced mostly 250 and a 465 but occasionally a 125. The weight differences were similar or a little less than above but the riding experience was significantly different. The 250 was a pretty good mix of power and flickability. But get on that 125 and hold it wide open and bounce it off things, anything to turn and just smile. My 465 turned okay but it was more of a point and shoot, short shift and ride the torque kind to thing.

Even though the weight is not much different, you have to take into account for the rotating mass of the motor ie. crank, rod, piston and flywheel. Think of how you're spinning bicycle wheel wants to stay up right when you spin it.
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Most anything small will feel like a 10 speed compared to his AT
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Old 07-10-2018, 03:51 PM   #125
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I just picked up my sons CRF250L from CA a week or so ago and rode it around the a little bit, it is pretty nice. 6 speed and runs strong for a little guy. Honda has a CRF450L coming out
Yeah, I wish the 450L had been out a few years already. I'd be seriously looking at it. I'm thinking I should start with the 250 and see where it goes from there.

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Old 07-11-2018, 10:35 AM   #126
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Re: IF I were to get a dirt bike, what should I get?

I like the sound of the option to pick something, ride it for a bit. Figure out what you like and don't. Then move the direction you want with a better purpose. If you shop around and pick up used like mentioned you will likely be able to sell it for what you have in it of not close. You might find that dirt is the way and want to go that route or decide its just not for you and scrap it all together. Either way it will be an adventure!

That WR450 sounds like a good deal. Will putt around a field all day or down a dirt road all day, hit as nasty of single track as you dare (slow and easy works as well). Can update the plates so the street legal part is already worked out. Will work well for dual sport. Add a comfortable seat though. Good suspension as well for about anything you care to throw at it. I would check that option out as I think the that while the 250 will be fun it you will out grow it quickly or be hunting for another gear in the wide open stuff. With the 450, like with your AT you will need to learn a little throttle control.
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Old 07-11-2018, 08:37 PM   #127
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Re: IF I were to get a dirt bike, what should I get?

The advice I give to any full grown male looking for a first dirt bike is pretty much the same. You can’t go wrong with one of the big three...KDX200 (or 220), XR400, or DRZ400.

They’re all proven reliable machines, were (or have been) made for long enough to make parts readily available and fairly cheap, are plentiful on the used market, and are powerful enough to grow into without being too intimidating for a new dirt rider.

The DRZ has the advantage of being offered in a factory dual sport configuration, while the KDX has the benefit of simpler maintenance (as well as that awesome two stroke sound and smell).

None of these are gonna serve you too well on a motocross track, but it doesn’t sound like that’s what you’re looking to do.
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Old 07-11-2018, 08:48 PM   #128
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I'm guessing a DRZ 400SM is not a good option due to the wheels?
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Old 07-12-2018, 05:36 AM   #129
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I'm guessing a DRZ 400SM is not a good option due to the wheels?


In that configuration it would be a pretty poor dirt bike, but dirt wheels are readily available for a swap. Then you’d have two bikes for just a little more cost than one.
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In that configuration it would be a pretty poor dirt bike, but dirt wheels are readily available for a swap. Then you’d have two bikes for just a little more cost than one.
IIRC, dual sports and supermotos derived from the same model (DRZ400S and DRZ400SM; WR250R and WR250X; KLX250S and KLX250SF) usually have different suspension setups as well to perform better on trails or street respective of trim.

I'm not trying to say getting the supermoto with a 18/21 wheelset with knobby tires on the side is absolutely heinous and blasphemous, but it doesn't technically allow for a complete 2-in-1 bike as implied. However, it may totally do the job for you. I know I hardly flirt with full capabilities of the tires and suspension on my own dual sport. Just a thought...
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Re: IF I were to get a dirt bike, what should I get?

At the risk of being a kill joy, we're about four pages into overthinking this. (Of course, overthinking bikes is half the fun.)

I'd recommend re-reading Shadman's posts, setting aside $1500 and buying the first thing that comes along, even if it's not the perfect size, sprung right, or whatever.

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Thanks for all the info. Much appreciated.
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Re: IF I were to get a dirt bike, what should I get?

Well, after much overthinking, I decided to go pick this up today:



2014 Honda CRF250L

It's got a couple after market go fast parts on it, but it's slow as molasses. That said, it putts along well and I think that's all I need for dirt for now.

I decided I wanted to go with a fuel injected bike so as to not mess with carbs. Plus I'm already familiar with 2012+ Honda's, so everything already makes sense to me on it. Also 2WheelNut made a good point to me today, that if my daughter and I might be doing some dirt biking together, the 250 would be good for her to start out on for sure. Probably me as well.

And if I get hooked on it, it can become her bike and I can buy something with more cajones.

Guess I'm a Honda guy...
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Congrats. Excellent choice

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Awesome choice! So you're coming to Mextrek in October????? Its a slippery slope.
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More like a slippery cliff....

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Just took it for a proper spin. Looks like it tops out around 80mph, but seems to cruise comfortably around 65mph.

It's much more fun running around in our pasture than my AT and it fits in the back of my truck with the tailgate closed.

This little thing might be a lot of fun.
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Well, after much overthinking, I decided to go pick this up today:



2014 Honda CRF250L

It's got a couple after market go fast parts on it, but it's slow as molasses. That said, it putts along well and I think that's all I need for dirt for now.

I decided I wanted to go with a fuel injected bike so as to not mess with carbs. Plus I'm already familiar with 2012+ Honda's, so everything already makes sense to me on it. Also 2WheelNut made a good point to me today, that if my daughter and I might be doing some dirt biking together, the 250 would be good for her to start out on for sure. Probably me as well.

And if I get hooked on it, it can become her bike and I can buy something with more cajones.

Guess I'm a Honda guy...
Good choice and all good reasons. You can get the 450 model when it comes out, lol.
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You can get the 450 model when it comes out, lol.
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