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Old 11-06-2009, 12:27 PM   #1
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MCL accidents - within 7 miles of home?

We all know the driving school mantra..."most automobile accidents happen within seven miles from your house"...is this true for the average motorcycle rider?

The obvious logic explained is most people are complacent when riding in familiar terrain and tend to be more vigilant when wandering away from a know driving turf.

Could it be that we take the local routes more often and therefore statistically speaking, we are just more likely to get in an accident?

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Old 11-06-2009, 12:30 PM   #2
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Re: MCL accidents - within 7 miles of home?

I thought it was within 5 miles...


Easy to solve, though, just move...
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Old 11-06-2009, 01:41 PM   #3
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Re: MCL accidents - within 7 miles of home?

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I thought it was within 5 miles...

Easy to solve, though, just move...
How about if you move from bleiblerville, texas to nyc?



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Old 11-06-2009, 01:44 PM   #4
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Re: MCL accidents - within 7 miles of home?

Really this has to be a probability thing. We are in that area around our homes so much more often than the distant places. There is also the possibility that the return from a distance puts us increasingly more fatigued as we draw near home. Fatigue = mistakes Going away to a distance never fatigues me because I am running on adrenaline and excitement and those tend to sharpen the senses.
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Old 11-06-2009, 02:31 PM   #5
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Re: MCL accidents - within 7 miles of home?

I've always hated that expression.
It is all about probabilities and exposure. You are exposed to that 5 or 7 mile range twice every time you leave your home (unless you don't go home). The more exposure you have to any potential event, the greater the likelihood of it being realized. Like the Texas Lotto says, You can't win if you don't play.
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Old 11-06-2009, 02:54 PM   #6
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Re: MCL accidents - within 7 miles of home?

Agreed. That's why I speed when leaving the house to get outta the danger zone ASAP!! HMM...just noticed my post count...888. Must be that the danger increases when doing three consecutive "figure eights"!

But yeah...statistically most of the time is spent near home.
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Old 11-06-2009, 03:18 PM   #7
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Re: MCL accidents - within 7 miles of home?

I did a little math on that statement that you can't win unless you play...which is true, BUT look at the percent of improvement from 0% chance of winning if I don't play to.....

wait for it....






0.000000569% chance of winning if I do play.

*disclaimer: Math research conducted by Soozy's 8th graders*

Also, because the game starts over each time, every time you play you have the same odds. Playing frequently does not increase your odds...buying more chances at the same time does. Probably this explains why the "groups" win sometimes.
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Old 11-06-2009, 06:28 PM   #8
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How about if you move from bleiblerville, texas to nyc?



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Old 11-06-2009, 11:53 PM   #9
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Re: MCL accidents - within 7 miles of home?

The accident that totaled my Concours last year and crushed my foot happend well within this zone. Ironically, I had just returned from a 6000+ mile trip... I agree that it's likely just probability, but I like the "speed to get away" idea!
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Re: MCL accidents - within 7 miles of home?

that's why I get off and push my bike the last 5 miles to the house.

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Old 11-07-2009, 09:56 PM   #11
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Re: MCL accidents - within 7 miles of home?

Statistics also clam that the average motorcyclist rides 2,000 miles a year.
If that is all they ride they cant get far from home.
Figure most can also find a bar with in that 7 mile ride.
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Old 11-08-2009, 07:40 AM   #12
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Re: MCL accidents - within 7 miles of home?

Yeah, that thing is, as we all agree, a probability issue. If you have an 80% chance of having an accident within 10 miles of home and spend 90% of your time within 10 miles of home, you're obviously safer in that 10 mile range on a mile-for-mile basis, but that doesn't change the fact that you're still more likely to have those accidents within that range...because that's where you ride. Duh..it's hard to have an accident where you're NOT riding, that's for DARN sure. That'd be great tho...have the accident where you aren't so you're not there to get hurt!

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Re: MCL accidents - within 7 miles of home?

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Agreed. That's why I speed when leaving the house to get outta the danger zone ASAP!! HMM...just noticed my post count...888. Must be that the danger increases when doing three consecutive "figure eights"!

But yeah...statistically most of the time is spent near home.

No one's mentioned that the last several miles from your house is how long your neighborhood dog ambushes you, rams your bike because the he can't stop fast enough, or tries to bite off your exhaust!
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