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Old 09-25-2003, 04:16 PM   #1
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Heading to Arkansas Oct 17-20th, Wanna come?

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Okay, I need two more people that want to spend a weekend in Arkansas and Southern Missouri. We will leave from Huntsville Friday morning of the 17th. Ride two full days in Arkansas and Missouri, then return on Monday the 20th. Right now there are two of us planning to go. I we get two more, I can trailer four bikes up to Hot Springs. We'll then ride up to Ava, Missouri to stay with a fellow VFR rider for Fri/Sat/Sun nights. We'll ride back to Hot Springs on Monday, load the bikes and head home in the truck. Your expenses will be food, splitting the diesel, and your bike gas. Lodging is free (although we'll by our bud dinner no doubt!).

Anyone... Anyone...?

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Old 09-25-2003, 05:54 PM   #2
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Good lord, you keep doing this, and you'll have to rename the site to twark.com

I'd LOVE to go, but I think I'm gonna get re-employed by the 6th, yay.
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Old 09-25-2003, 11:44 PM   #3
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Well... If Texas had roads as incredible as Arkansas's then we'd be in business! At least this time we will be heading into Missouri!

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Old 09-26-2003, 09:10 AM   #4
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OK...Here's the deal. I might not be able to make the Hill Country Ride after all; however, I may be able to make this ride. Obviously, we would be staying at Garrel's house up north. Who is signed up to go?

If I can make this one, I may just ride up to Hotsprings and meet you guys. Are you spending the night in Hot Springs or are you going to hop on the bike immediately and head out?

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Old 09-26-2003, 12:35 PM   #5
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Hey Larry,

Don't sweat the Hill Country ride. What I am thinking is that we may just trailer the whole way. That way you can get in some good napping Just don't forget to bring a pillow this time Seriously, the drive will be about 12-13 hrs if we come through Dallas on I-45 to I-30, and that does not include coming over to your side of the metromess to get you. I don't know that I can get away Thursday evening and come up to your place like last week, but that would be better. Still makes for one heck of a long drive on the way back though I am waiting to hear back from another friend in Arlington and he has a trailer. If he goes, the two of you might be able to ride up together. There is also the possibility that we could hook up in Texarkana, load you onto the trailer and then keep going.

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The accepted wisdom is that without the state, society would collapse into lawlessness and crime. In fact, lawlessness and crime define the very nature of the state and the society organized by it. - Bionic Mosquito

But the myth of the rule of law does more than render the people submissive to state authority; it also turns them into the state's accomplices in the exercise of its power. For people who would ordinarily consider it a great evil to deprive individuals of their rights or oppress politically powerless minority groups will respond with patriotic fervor when these same actions are described as upholding the rule of law. - John Hasnas
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Old 09-26-2003, 02:54 PM   #6
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Well, if you decide to go with us Larry, we have four people. My friend Bill from Arlington is a go. I will check with him to see if he wants to trailer up on his own or meet up with us. Personally, I'd like to have four people and bikes in the truck and trailer to spread out the cost of the diesel. As you know from last weekend's trip, the diesel can get expensive. For this trip, it is likely to be the largest expense. Garrell is arranging for food for each night, drinks, and air mattresses. More details to follow as things form up.

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If you want government to intervene domestically, you’re a liberal. If you want government to intervene overseas, you’re a conservative. If you want government to intervene everywhere, you’re a moderate. If you don’t want government to intervene anywhere, you’re an extremist. — Joe Sobran

It is no crime to be ignorant of economics, which is, after all, a specialized discipline and one that most people consider to be a ‘dismal science.' But it is totally irresponsible to have a loud and vociferous opinion on economic subjects while remaining in this state of ignorance. – Murray N. Rothbard

When one possessed of the Truth suffers from a heavy heart he is susceptible to a more dangerous affliction — the craving for power to eradicate error, to cause Truth to triumph by force. - Frank Chodorov

Where politicians flourish, long history has harshly taught us, people and their liberty wither. Where the state is god and the "public interest" worshipped, individual man will be found bleeding upon the altar. - Karl Hess

The accepted wisdom is that without the state, society would collapse into lawlessness and crime. In fact, lawlessness and crime define the very nature of the state and the society organized by it. - Bionic Mosquito

But the myth of the rule of law does more than render the people submissive to state authority; it also turns them into the state's accomplices in the exercise of its power. For people who would ordinarily consider it a great evil to deprive individuals of their rights or oppress politically powerless minority groups will respond with patriotic fervor when these same actions are described as upholding the rule of law. - John Hasnas
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Old 09-27-2003, 09:21 PM   #7
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Thanks Scott. I won't bother you guys with picking me up this time as I felt bad for you having to go out of your way on the way home. I am probably going to borrow a neighbor's trailer and just meet you guys in Ava. This will save you about 3 to 4 hours of drive time. I'll let you know as time gets closer.

If I make this trip, then I sure won't make the Hill Country Ride. If that happens, just keep what I owe you from the last trip (plus PayPal fee) and either PayPal me the rest back or just pay me cash next time we meet.

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Old 09-28-2003, 12:37 AM   #8
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Hey Larry,

Did you get the info I sent about Bill Joye? He has a trailer and is willing to take you along.

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It is no crime to be ignorant of economics, which is, after all, a specialized discipline and one that most people consider to be a ‘dismal science.' But it is totally irresponsible to have a loud and vociferous opinion on economic subjects while remaining in this state of ignorance. – Murray N. Rothbard

When one possessed of the Truth suffers from a heavy heart he is susceptible to a more dangerous affliction — the craving for power to eradicate error, to cause Truth to triumph by force. - Frank Chodorov

Where politicians flourish, long history has harshly taught us, people and their liberty wither. Where the state is god and the "public interest" worshipped, individual man will be found bleeding upon the altar. - Karl Hess

The accepted wisdom is that without the state, society would collapse into lawlessness and crime. In fact, lawlessness and crime define the very nature of the state and the society organized by it. - Bionic Mosquito

But the myth of the rule of law does more than render the people submissive to state authority; it also turns them into the state's accomplices in the exercise of its power. For people who would ordinarily consider it a great evil to deprive individuals of their rights or oppress politically powerless minority groups will respond with patriotic fervor when these same actions are described as upholding the rule of law. - John Hasnas
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Old 09-28-2003, 05:40 PM   #9
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Got the info and will call him Monday to work out the details. Thanks for hooking us up.

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Old 09-29-2003, 10:09 PM   #10
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Tourmeister,

I called Bill and we will be hooking up and trailering to Hot Springs Thursday night. We will spend the night and ride up to Ava Friday morning. Monday, we'll ride back to Hotsprings and trailer home.

Thanks for getting us together. I was going to borrow a trailer and trailer all 531 miles to Ava. This is much better.

BTW...just ordered a new Pilot Road for the rear. I'll be good to go once I get up there.

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Old 09-30-2003, 12:19 AM   #11
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Awesome Larry! I just confirmed that Doug Smith will be going with us. He's the guy with the red/white painted Vtec on the VFRDiscussion.com site. I know you have seen it! Amazing paint job!! He'll be trailering up with us. Now I just need one more person and we are set, hehe.
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If you want government to intervene domestically, you’re a liberal. If you want government to intervene overseas, you’re a conservative. If you want government to intervene everywhere, you’re a moderate. If you don’t want government to intervene anywhere, you’re an extremist. — Joe Sobran

It is no crime to be ignorant of economics, which is, after all, a specialized discipline and one that most people consider to be a ‘dismal science.' But it is totally irresponsible to have a loud and vociferous opinion on economic subjects while remaining in this state of ignorance. – Murray N. Rothbard

When one possessed of the Truth suffers from a heavy heart he is susceptible to a more dangerous affliction — the craving for power to eradicate error, to cause Truth to triumph by force. - Frank Chodorov

Where politicians flourish, long history has harshly taught us, people and their liberty wither. Where the state is god and the "public interest" worshipped, individual man will be found bleeding upon the altar. - Karl Hess

The accepted wisdom is that without the state, society would collapse into lawlessness and crime. In fact, lawlessness and crime define the very nature of the state and the society organized by it. - Bionic Mosquito

But the myth of the rule of law does more than render the people submissive to state authority; it also turns them into the state's accomplices in the exercise of its power. For people who would ordinarily consider it a great evil to deprive individuals of their rights or oppress politically powerless minority groups will respond with patriotic fervor when these same actions are described as upholding the rule of law. - John Hasnas
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Old 10-01-2003, 10:26 PM   #12
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Do you mean this bike?
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What do you think the temps will be like? Altitudes? This south texas boy has got to prepare!
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Ah yes... that would be the one I was thinking of I'm guessing cold to mildly cool. It has been in the low 60's here in the mornings and maybe mid 70's during the day. The trip is still two weeks away low fifties during the day would not be a surprise. I will be taking my cold weather stuff just to be safe. I hate being cold.

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It is no crime to be ignorant of economics, which is, after all, a specialized discipline and one that most people consider to be a ‘dismal science.' But it is totally irresponsible to have a loud and vociferous opinion on economic subjects while remaining in this state of ignorance. – Murray N. Rothbard

When one possessed of the Truth suffers from a heavy heart he is susceptible to a more dangerous affliction — the craving for power to eradicate error, to cause Truth to triumph by force. - Frank Chodorov

Where politicians flourish, long history has harshly taught us, people and their liberty wither. Where the state is god and the "public interest" worshipped, individual man will be found bleeding upon the altar. - Karl Hess

The accepted wisdom is that without the state, society would collapse into lawlessness and crime. In fact, lawlessness and crime define the very nature of the state and the society organized by it. - Bionic Mosquito

But the myth of the rule of law does more than render the people submissive to state authority; it also turns them into the state's accomplices in the exercise of its power. For people who would ordinarily consider it a great evil to deprive individuals of their rights or oppress politically powerless minority groups will respond with patriotic fervor when these same actions are described as upholding the rule of law. - John Hasnas
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Do you mean this bike?
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...82970223JVMpiI

What do you think the temps will be like? Altitudes? This south texas boy has got to prepare!
8) Ive seen that viffer online, man would I love to see it in the flesh. Sounds like you guys are going to be having a great ride. I would love to join in but am going to Ireland next week on business and need to come home and spend some q-time with the wife when I get back.

Have a few on me though would ya boys (I will in have a few pints of the mud in Dublin)
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Old 10-07-2003, 10:18 AM   #15
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Hey guys, man that sounds like a blast. Would really love to get out of town. My wife was not terribly receptive to the idea last night, but begging and pleading might work. Is the spot still open? Commuting on the bike is starting to show on the tires, but there is still plenty of tread left on the sides! Maybe I can get rid of these chicken strips.
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Howdy!

There is still one slot open. If the center of your tires are anywhere near the wear bars, you may want to replace them before going. We had two different bikes on the last trip that had tire issues because we were trying to get more miles out of them. The same thing occured on a trip in early June with another rider. The twisties there are quite different than the ones here and they demand a lot more out of a tire.

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It is no crime to be ignorant of economics, which is, after all, a specialized discipline and one that most people consider to be a ‘dismal science.' But it is totally irresponsible to have a loud and vociferous opinion on economic subjects while remaining in this state of ignorance. – Murray N. Rothbard

When one possessed of the Truth suffers from a heavy heart he is susceptible to a more dangerous affliction — the craving for power to eradicate error, to cause Truth to triumph by force. - Frank Chodorov

Where politicians flourish, long history has harshly taught us, people and their liberty wither. Where the state is god and the "public interest" worshipped, individual man will be found bleeding upon the altar. - Karl Hess

The accepted wisdom is that without the state, society would collapse into lawlessness and crime. In fact, lawlessness and crime define the very nature of the state and the society organized by it. - Bionic Mosquito

But the myth of the rule of law does more than render the people submissive to state authority; it also turns them into the state's accomplices in the exercise of its power. For people who would ordinarily consider it a great evil to deprive individuals of their rights or oppress politically powerless minority groups will respond with patriotic fervor when these same actions are described as upholding the rule of law. - John Hasnas
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I'll concur with Scott on the tire issue. I knew I had plenty of tire left, but was amazed at how fast it disappeared in the twisties. I was the lucky recepient of a newly used front tire thanks to Scott after only our first day of riding. I will guess that I could have gotten another 1k miles out of the front here in TX. It was toast after around 150-175 miles.

I am putting on new tires for this trip. I will not be denied lean angles due to my ignorance again.

See you guys soon.

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Old 10-08-2003, 04:49 PM   #18
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Unfortunately I think it is a bust for me. My wife has some school function, early xmas party type thing that she won't let me out of. I actually have some flexibility at work right now so maybe next time. I'm kind bummed have never been to that area and really need to get out of boring, flat Houston for a while.
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Was that last poster Inigo? If so, bummer to hear it dude. Totally understand though.
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If you want government to intervene domestically, you’re a liberal. If you want government to intervene overseas, you’re a conservative. If you want government to intervene everywhere, you’re a moderate. If you don’t want government to intervene anywhere, you’re an extremist. — Joe Sobran

It is no crime to be ignorant of economics, which is, after all, a specialized discipline and one that most people consider to be a ‘dismal science.' But it is totally irresponsible to have a loud and vociferous opinion on economic subjects while remaining in this state of ignorance. – Murray N. Rothbard

When one possessed of the Truth suffers from a heavy heart he is susceptible to a more dangerous affliction — the craving for power to eradicate error, to cause Truth to triumph by force. - Frank Chodorov

Where politicians flourish, long history has harshly taught us, people and their liberty wither. Where the state is god and the "public interest" worshipped, individual man will be found bleeding upon the altar. - Karl Hess

The accepted wisdom is that without the state, society would collapse into lawlessness and crime. In fact, lawlessness and crime define the very nature of the state and the society organized by it. - Bionic Mosquito

But the myth of the rule of law does more than render the people submissive to state authority; it also turns them into the state's accomplices in the exercise of its power. For people who would ordinarily consider it a great evil to deprive individuals of their rights or oppress politically powerless minority groups will respond with patriotic fervor when these same actions are described as upholding the rule of law. - John Hasnas
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Old 10-09-2003, 09:10 PM   #20
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Yes, that was me. I sneak on at work sometimes...ssshh don't tell. I hope to catch ya'll on the next one.
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