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Handlebar--long vs short
I've a Honda NT700, which is a light weight sport touring. I didn't like to be in the lean forward posture; so I added a Helibar riser that put the handlebar back 2.5 inches and up 3.5 inches. The riser allows me to sit upright. Since adding the riser, I've dropped the bike several times. Do you think a longer handlebar would help controlling the bike? If so, who sells handlebars?
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Re: Handlebar--long vs short
How difficult is it to bend a handlebar from scratch?
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Re: Handlebar--long vs short
Have you posed this question on a Deauville-specific forum (probably Europe based since it's been out there for years)?
The amount of up and back seems like a lot - for VStroms, the typical is about 1" up and/or back. Your leverage will certainly change with 2-3", maybe for the worse. Bars are cheap, it's probably a lot harder to bend them symetrically then to buy / return / buy again until you find the right fit. Cycle Gear, your local shop, any motorcross supplier has tons of them. HTH, Tom
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Re: Handlebar--long vs short
the question is not what bend and such, but how much slcak in cables and hoses to controls. literally thousands of choices of handle bars available. I used a motorcycle larry riser plate for my fjr, i have enough slack for this and no more. good luck...
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Re: Handlebar--long vs short
Yes! I have already added longer cables and brake line.
Yes! 2.5" up and 3.5" back is extreme. I now sit Goldwing-style. I don't really need to raise the bar; I just need to set it back about 3". I've realize that whenever I drop the bike, my handlebar is turned full left or right. I think the trouble is that at full turn position, the handlebar requires a lot of force to turn back to center. I always drop when I can't turn the bar back to center fast enough. |
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Re: Handlebar--long vs short
Do you have a pic? I'm having a hard time picturing what you're doing. It may be just a matter of rotating the bars forward a little. would make you lean forward but would probably give you a better grip to turn the front back to center.
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Re: Handlebar--long vs short
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Re: Handlebar--long vs short
Steel bars are cheap. Scrapyards are full of them
Grips should be about even with the stem front too back. Reasonable height does not seem to make a difference in feel, but moving the grips forward or back from the stem really masses with the low speed handling. Also, the wrist angle makes a lot of difference in low speed handling. A too-bent wrist makes applying pull or push to the bars difficult.
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Re: Handlebar--long vs short
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So for most people comfort is a double-edged sword to a certain extent. People want an extreme rise and setback, but want the steering input from having a stock setup.
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Re: Handlebar--long vs short
I just rotated the bar as far backward as possible. So the handle is now lower and further back. I seem to get better leverage from this position. Let me try this for a while.
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