Goldwing vs. BMW 1200GS

[msfdude]

I recently had a "vehicle altercation", therefore am in the market to replace my '88 Goldwing. I was very close to making a decision between an '06 and '08 Wing, but was advised to look into the BMW. A guy I work with just traded in an '08 Wing for the 1200 GS and he claims the GS is a better long distance bike.

I really enjoyed my Wing, but is the BMW better for breakfast runs and 100-500 mile rides? (Did I mention I really enjoyed the Wing???) Also, is there a difference between the recent model 1200's ('05-'12)?

I'm looking for a comfortable ride with luggage capabilities and the potential for moderate twistys.

Thanks.

[kurt]

Depends. I found the current Wings short on rider leg room and relatively cramped feeling. It just wasn't a good around town bike for me as it was heavy and cumbersome. I like the higher seating position, more relaxed ergonomics and MUCH lighter feel of the GS series. What you give up is low end torque, smoothness, cruise control, stereo/intercom and wind protection, which I found to be too good on the Wing.

[Jchefboyardee]

Ride each and decide for yourself! I have a 2004 GL1800 and few $$ spent for upgrades (Traxxion) and all I can say, Bring it on! 90,000+ smiles and only a Alternator change.

Hey Trev,

I am in complete agreement with Kurt. If you need ONE bike to do both local commuter work and long-distance riding you can't beat the GS1200. I prefer the 800/650 (twin) GS which offers an excellent compromise plus it is a good deal lighter than the 1200 GS. For me, the parallel twin engine found on the 800/650 GS seems a bit smoother than the GS1200 boxer style engine under 85 mph...above that speed the twin can get slightly buzzy.

Here is my bike a few days ago:



The GW is a great bike if you're main purpose is to ride heavy touring miles but for regular commuting it is too heavy. If you do get another GL1800 the Traxxion set-up for around $2K-$3K can transform the wing in terms of nimbleness in the twisties as good as many lighter sport-touring bikes like the ST1300 or C-14.

RB

[TWTourist]

I've own both an '06 Wing and a '11 GS. For me the Wing was a better long distance bike due to the comfort, cc and wind protection. The GS was a better commuter due to seating position and weight. I now have a little of both in a RT. Comfort and cc of the Wing and light weight of the GS. All are good for your mileage need and in the twists. I believe the GS had the best luggage option.

[YoDoc]

I went and rode BRP with a friend and his dad a few years ago, his dad on an 05 Wing, my friend on a Duc ST2. That wing kept up with everything except actual sportbikes.
Now, personally, I'm not a huge fan of wind protection that I can't remove. See my recent move out of a C10 and back onto a cruiser. Of course, that's just me, maybe. I figure, if I need more wind blocking, I can farkle the ever loving crud out of a bike that has little to none to begin with, but as far as I'm aware, it's relatively hard to increase the amount of wind getting to you on a big tour rig. Well, maybe Bakers Air Wings...

[trainman]

I've had both, a 2005 wing and a 2007 1200GSA. When my wife and I rode the wing was a great bike for two up riding, comfort, and just fun riding together, but now that she doesn't ride anymore I find the 1200GSA a riders bike. It's a total different style of riding, where the wing you set inside the bike the GSA you set on top of the bike and riding becomes a sport. You set a top a bike that you feel that will go anywhere, both on and off road, plus the comfort of a bike that gives you that feeling you can conquer the world on this thing, well you can, you know. As far as cost of ownership, the wing is pretty must a trouble free bike and cost is very little, on the other side the BMW thinks that you need all these scheduled service visits to their dealership with high dollar service checks to keep the bike going. Well this is not true and if you have any mechanical skills at all you can do the work yourself at very little cost, but there is a little maintenance to the BMW that should be done. Your choice is going to be on your ridding style, either bike will put a smile on your face after a full days ride. I'm a BMW rider now and probably never go back to a wing, just because of the feel I get riding the BMW. Until you ride one you will never know, it might not be the bike for you, then again it just might be.

John

[Hap Hazard]

I, too, have owned both and still have the GS. Much prefer the GS even on long distance rides. The Wing felt like driving VW with the doors off. BUT, if going touring with a passenger then the Wing wins big! Especially from the passenger's comfort standpoint.

[Desert Skies]

I ride mostly 1-up and will throw a leg over my GS before my Wing. It simply fits me better.

[Fort Bend Rider]

Comparing a Wing to a GS is like comparing an Apple to an Orange. They are two totally different beasts. Each bike can do the same thing as the other, just one can do some things better than the other.


There is really no ideal bike for all types of riding, it is just some are a little more multipurpose than others. Try to ride both, and see which one you like best.

[R1150R]

I have a 2004 R1150RT. Purchased an 08 Wing about 2 years ago as my wife likes to tour.

Sold the Wing a month ago...the buffeting was bad. My wife liked it better than the RT but my eyeballs were getting rattled around in their sockets. The BMW is a smoother ride too in my opinion. We've toured on the BMW too and will continue. One up, can't beat the RT.

YMMV

[YoDoc]

Ymmv indeed. Some folks call it buffeting, I call it wind... lol

[kurt]

Originally Posted by YoDoc

Ymmv indeed. Some folks call it buffeting, I call it wind... lol

Steady wind is no problem, having your head beaten back and forth from turbulence is just plain tiresome. I much prefer my helmet in a clean air stream. It is quieter as well.

[Texas T]

A laminar lip mounted to the top edge of the stock Wing windshield has worked well for me as it helps to move the airflow up and over my helmet and still allow me to see over the top of the shield. In addition, when the wife is riding with me I mount the travel bag to the rack on top of the trunk. It acts like a windbreaker does in a convertible car with the shield behind the driver/passenger to disrupt the turbulence and greatly reduces the buffeting that she feels.

[YoDoc]

Originally Posted by kurt

Steady wind is no problem, having your head beaten back and forth from turbulence is just plain tiresome. I much prefer my helmet in a clean air stream. It is quieter as well.

I guess maybe I've just been lucky? IDK. I've never experienced anything like THAT.

[trainman]

Most bikes will not give you "Buffeting" as we know as head banning, a lot of wind yes. One bike that has this problem is the Suzuki DL650, or the V-Strom with stock windshield, it will truly make you light headed from the buffeting that comes off the windshield of this bike. This is easily corrected by a different and taller windshield, or brackets that will change the angle of the stock windshield. There maybe other bike that have this same problem, but I have only had a V-Strom that I ever got this buffeting from, read the V-Strom forums and you will see what I'm talking about.

John

Originally Posted by R1150R

Sold the Wing a month ago...the buffeting was bad.
YMMV

The GL1800 amazingly does have a buffeting problem. It is strange since it has so much fairing on the bike. A lot of wingers, will solve this by getting a really tall windscreen like the Tulsa brand (unless you get a laminar lip etc.). It works great on windy days except you can't look over the top and are forced always to look through the screen. If the windshield gets plastered with bugs or riding the wing during a deluge of heavy rain - it is not very fun having to look through the windscreen.

The GS650/800 has amazingly smooth air w/ a Madstad bracket/screen system. I can go all day and not feel fatigued. The BMW GS series has really excellent ergonomics almost "out of the box", something I have not experienced with other brands of bikes.

John...yea the wind buffeting on the V-Strom is hideous on a sustained ride into a headwind. That is why I sold mine. It was barely tolerable with the Madstad bracket and a large windscreen.

RB

[YoDoc]

Huh. Learn sumptin new every day, yeah?

[Desert Skies]

I run a modified Wind Bender on mine which cures a lot of buffeting issues. I bought the HP version and found the reflex bothered me looking through it and the plastic too soft. I cut down my stock which is coated and mounted it on the upper half.

Shameless picture post to illustrate my point...

[msfdude]

Thanks for all the replies. I agree it is comparing apples to oranges, that is why switching to a GS is such a change of thinking for me!

I used to own a couple of V-star's and had the buffeting issue. I put a huge windshield on one of them, which solved the problem however it was HUGE! My 1500 Wing had a short and X-tall windshield, so know exactly what the buffeting issue is about.