Forum PayPal scam? -- [NOT on TWT!]

**Xdriver** · 08-15-2012, 09:12 AM

Anyone heard of this......last year I posted an item for sale on an Audi Forum. Sold long ago on CL, and forgot to delete the add. Yesterday I get an email from the forum saying it sold and money is in my PayPal. Look in PayPal. Money is there, a name and an address in NY. Emailed buyer to explain, and no response. No haggling, no PM's, nothing. Seems weird.

sharkey · 08-15-2012, 09:18 AM

Yeah that is weird, I'd let PayPal know.

VFRRider · 08-15-2012, 12:03 PM

Leave it there and disassociate your bank account immediately before the so-called purchaser files a complaint with Paypal and ties up both accounts.

If its legit, you can send it back.

Larry
VFRrider

willms81 · 08-15-2012, 12:15 PM

This is why my paypal address only gets sent via PM. I don't/won't put it in the FS thread itself.

hizzo3 · 08-15-2012, 12:18 PM

Sounds like laundering to me

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**Tourmeister** · 08-15-2012, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VFRRider

Leave it there and disassociate your bank account immediately before the so-called purchaser files a complaint with Paypal and ties up both accounts.

If its legit, you can send it back.

Larry
VFRrider

I use more than one account. Transfers from paypal go to one account and then are immediately transferred to a second unrelated account. I don't keep a significant balance in the account attached to paypal.

SilverBullet · 08-15-2012, 03:18 PM

Buyer probably has an old email address for PayPal that they don't use everyday so no quick reply. After money is verified and in your "real" PayPal account not some link in the email that you clicked on then only one thing to do. Refund the money and explain that item was already sold.

**Xdriver** · 08-15-2012, 03:37 PM

Money is really there. I disassociated my accounts, and will just process the refund minus what PayPal took. Seems odd overall. I don't even know how they got my PayPal address. I never listed that anywhere. Must be something that forum does automatically looking at the email you register with or something. First email was generated by the forum saying item sold, and funds sent to PayPal. Next email was from PayPal stating the same. Weird system I guess.

SilverBullet · 08-15-2012, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xdriver

Money is really there. I disassociated my accounts, and will just process the refund minus what PayPal took. Seems odd overall. I don't even know how they got my PayPal address. I never listed that anywhere. Must be something that forum does automatically looking at the email you register with or something. First email was generated by the forum saying item sold, and funds sent to PayPal. Next email was from PayPal stating the same. Weird system I guess.

If you issue a full refund PayPal will not take anything. I missed the part about the forum email. I would contact the forum and ask them. Do they just assume your email address is the same as your PayPal one? Many times it is different.

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NathanH · 08-15-2012, 06:23 PM

If you issue a refund, they get your refund money, remove funds and disappear. Then the original payment eventually gets bounced by the bank/card issuer or disputed by the legal card holder, the bank comes back after the paypal account, you get caught out, possibly owing it, possibly paypal covering it, but the scammer has your refund money legitimately while never having had the original deposit money legitimately. ***DO NOT*** issue a refund until you know exactly who to, why and have been appropriately authorized to do so with the knowledge and cooperation of paypal.

SilverBullet · 08-15-2012, 06:33 PM

Not so, a refunded payment gets returned to the same card that it was paid with. If there was fraud involved then the return of funds nulifies it as far as you would be concerned. Also that is why I said check with PayPal that funds already verified so he is protected.

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**Xdriver** · 08-15-2012, 09:25 PM

Thanks for all the responses. I was about to hit the refund button, but think I will sit on this for just a couple days to see what shakes out. Obviously the individual who bought this isn't chomping at the bit or they'd maybe have emailed or PM'd me by now. I really feel like something is amiss, and now just eager to see what it is. On the other hand maybe the buyer is just a really passive individual.

**The Bruce** · 08-16-2012, 08:36 AM

Send an email to spoof@paypal.com explaining the circumstances and asking for help. This is their fraud/scam security group and they will reply and let you know what to do.

**Xdriver** · 08-18-2012, 04:03 PM

After some google stalking and actually getting a phone number for the individual, I found that it was indeed legit. Buyer was thankful for my honesty, and he has his money back. No fraud, no harm.

Thanks for all the advice all the same.

**RollingJ** · 08-18-2012, 08:13 PM

That's just about the best resolution that could have come out of that odd situation.

You must be living right or something.

08-15-2012, 09:12 AM	#1
Xdriver Forum Supporter Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: North Richland Hills Posts: 648	Forum PayPal scam? -- [NOT on TWT!] Anyone heard of this......last year I posted an item for sale on an Audi Forum. Sold long ago on CL, and forgot to delete the add. Yesterday I get an email from the forum saying it sold and money is in my PayPal. Look in PayPal. Money is there, a name and an address in NY. Emailed buyer to explain, and no response. No haggling, no PM's, nothing. Seems weird. __________________ Sean 2012 Super Tenere Hard work pays off in the future. Laziness pays off now.....Steven Wright.

08-15-2012, 09:18 AM	#2
sharkey The Incredible Hulk Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Ft Worth, TX Posts: 7,837	Yeah that is weird, I'd let PayPal know. __________________ Conservatism, the NEW counter culture.

08-15-2012, 12:03 PM	#3
VFRRider Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Garland, TX Posts: 400	Re: Forum PayPal scam? Leave it there and disassociate your bank account immediately before the so-called purchaser files a complaint with Paypal and ties up both accounts. If its legit, you can send it back. Larry VFRrider __________________ Larry Gates VFRRider 93 VFR in Pearl Crystal White

08-15-2012, 12:15 PM	#4
willms81 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Copperas Cove, TX Posts: 83	Re: Forum PayPal scam? This is why my paypal address only gets sent via PM. I don't/won't put it in the FS thread itself.

08-15-2012, 12:18 PM	#5
hizzo3 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 2,536	Sounds like laundering to me Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2 __________________ "Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far" - Theodore 'Teddy' Roosevelt DL1000K6, VN750A20

08-15-2012, 03:18 PM	#7
SilverBullet Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Humble,TX Posts: 2,358	Re: Forum PayPal scam? Buyer probably has an old email address for PayPal that they don't use everyday so no quick reply. After money is verified and in your "real" PayPal account not some link in the email that you clicked on then only one thing to do. Refund the money and explain that item was already sold. __________________ 2011 Husqvarna TE630 2006 Honda VTX1300S 2003 Kawasaki Voyager XII 2002 KTM 300 EXC 1991 Suzuki DR650S 1974 Suzuki TM400

08-15-2012, 03:37 PM	#8
Xdriver Forum Supporter Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: North Richland Hills Posts: 648	Re: Forum PayPal scam? Money is really there. I disassociated my accounts, and will just process the refund minus what PayPal took. Seems odd overall. I don't even know how they got my PayPal address. I never listed that anywhere. Must be something that forum does automatically looking at the email you register with or something. First email was generated by the forum saying item sold, and funds sent to PayPal. Next email was from PayPal stating the same. Weird system I guess. __________________ Sean 2012 Super Tenere Hard work pays off in the future. Laziness pays off now.....Steven Wright.

08-15-2012, 06:23 PM	#10
NathanH TWT Advertiser TWT Site Sponsor Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Richardson (DFW) Posts: 695	Re: Forum PayPal scam? If you issue a refund, they get your refund money, remove funds and disappear. Then the original payment eventually gets bounced by the bank/card issuer or disputed by the legal card holder, the bank comes back after the paypal account, you get caught out, possibly owing it, possibly paypal covering it, but the scammer has your refund money legitimately while never having had the original deposit money legitimately. *DO NOT* issue a refund until you know exactly who to, why and have been appropriately authorized to do so with the knowledge and cooperation of paypal. __________________ Nathan 2001 Ducati 996 "The proper function of man is to live, not to exist. I shall not waste my days in trying to prolong them. I shall use my time." - Jack London

08-15-2012, 06:33 PM	#11
SilverBullet Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Humble,TX Posts: 2,358	Re: Forum PayPal scam? Not so, a refunded payment gets returned to the same card that it was paid with. If there was fraud involved then the return of funds nulifies it as far as you would be concerned. Also that is why I said check with PayPal that funds already verified so he is protected. _ __________________ 2011 Husqvarna TE630 2006 Honda VTX1300S 2003 Kawasaki Voyager XII 2002 KTM 300 EXC 1991 Suzuki DR650S 1974 Suzuki TM400

08-15-2012, 09:25 PM	#12
Xdriver Forum Supporter Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: North Richland Hills Posts: 648	Re: Forum PayPal scam? Thanks for all the responses. I was about to hit the refund button, but think I will sit on this for just a couple days to see what shakes out. Obviously the individual who bought this isn't chomping at the bit or they'd maybe have emailed or PM'd me by now. I really feel like something is amiss, and now just eager to see what it is. On the other hand maybe the buyer is just a really passive individual. __________________ Sean 2012 Super Tenere Hard work pays off in the future. Laziness pays off now.....Steven Wright.

08-16-2012, 08:36 AM	#13
The Bruce Forum Supporter Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Between a Rock and a weird place, Pflugerville, TX Posts: 7,346	Re: Forum PayPal scam? Send an email to spoof@paypal.com explaining the circumstances and asking for help. This is their fraud/scam security group and they will reply and let you know what to do. __________________ .... repeat 2012 XT1200Z Super Tenere 2000 DRZ400S "Old Yeller" IBA 45687Bun Burner 1500 Great Divide Route Part 1 Great Divide Route Part 2 Big Bend Big Bend Ranch

08-18-2012, 04:03 PM	#14
Xdriver Forum Supporter Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: North Richland Hills Posts: 648	Re: Forum PayPal scam? After some google stalking and actually getting a phone number for the individual, I found that it was indeed legit. Buyer was thankful for my honesty, and he has his money back. No fraud, no harm. Thanks for all the advice all the same. __________________ Sean 2012 Super Tenere Hard work pays off in the future. Laziness pays off now.....Steven Wright.

08-18-2012, 08:13 PM	#15
RollingJ Forum Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Bastrop Posts: 1,503	Re: Forum PayPal scam? -- [NOT on TWT!] That's just about the best resolution that could have come out of that odd situation. You must be living right or something. __________________ Some will fall. Others will laugh. I will do both. 06KLX250S 05CRF450X 98ST1100 <--- Here I go again!

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