Questions regarding security tracking device

[rickmillertx]

This month a fellow Ducati rider had his trailer and 3 bikes stolen from the hotel parking lot in Colorado Springs. The fellow did everything right having it locked to his truck, location, etc but still had it taken.

So I'm thinking of adding a tracking device to my bike like this one.
http://www.electroflip.com/products/...e-tracker.html

Now for the question. If I'm sitting in my hotel room and get a notification from the device that my bike is moving and I see from the message that it is traveling down some street in town.

Then I call 911 and report that it is being stolen and that it was moving down a certain street, what will I be told?

Will they say wait until it stops moving? Will they say that they don't go looking for a moving target that my not be visible (may be inside of a van)?

Or, should I call a cab and then go find it myself?

I don't know how police handle calls like this.

Thanks

[Thrasherg]

I can't say what is legal, but I personally would be getting a cab, taking my 2 best friends (Mr Smith and Mr Wesson) with me and looking for it immediately. I believe the longer it is out of my sight the less chance I will get it back, I would also call the police as there is no harm (that I can see) to inform them, but I would NOT be sitting back and hoping they might do something.. Just my opinion.. I have had 2 bikes stolen and detest thieves, so if I have a tracking device on my bike and can find it, the thieves had better look out for themselves. What goes around, comes around..

Gary

[charrito]

Agree... I wouldn't wait around for someone else to 'maybe' go find my bike for me.

[hizzo3]

Well just make sure you check the state and local laws concerning carrying. Reciprocity and safe passage act are your savior here. How ever safe passage act kinda makes carrying it almost pointless. Why not chain the bikes to the trailer, then put the trailer on jack stands, then remove the tire, or better yet, have a removable tongue?

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[Tattoogunman]

Originally Posted by rickmillertx

This month a fellow Ducati rider had his trailer and 3 bikes stolen from the hotel parking lot in Colorado Springs. The fellow did everything right having it locked to his truck, location, etc but still had it taken.

So I'm thinking of adding a tracking device to my bike like this one.
http://www.electroflip.com/products/...e-tracker.html

Now for the question. If I'm sitting in my hotel room and get a notification from the device that my bike is moving and I see from the message that it is traveling down some street in town.

Then I call 911 and report that it is being stolen and that it was moving down a certain street, what will I be told?

Will they say wait until it stops moving? Will they say that they don't go looking for a moving target that my not be visible (may be inside of a van)?

Or, should I call a cab and then go find it myself?

I don't know how police handle calls like this.

Thanks

I'll give you my .02 as someone who was in law enforcement for 16 years.

First, every department has their own policy when it comes to this sort of thing. We had a strict no chase policy (to a point), other departments could are less.

Second, a device like the one you are describing would be something similar to Lo Jack. When Lo Jack was activated, those of us that had the system in our cars could follow the signal and try to locate the vehicle - worked amazingly well. So assuming you could give the police turn by turn directions as to where the vehicle(s) is/are going, I'm *assuming* they would make a good faith effort to find it (we would have - even with the no chase policy). Or they may just tell you to stand by until a report was taken and hope the vehicle(s) is/are recovered at a later time. There are also cases where someone decides to abandon the stuff at some point and then you can lead them to where it is. Or you can go there yourself, hope the bad guy(s) are not there, and then collect your stuff. I recovered more than one stolen vehicle because the owner happened to be out driving around and saw it on a street corner or in a parking lot - strange things happen.

As for taking the law into your own hands, that's your own decision to make - look where it got George Zimmerman I'm not knocking anyone, but it's real easy to sit there and say "I'm gonna run them down with my car and my .45 at my side", but the fact of the matter is you have no clue who you are dealing with. You get into a chase, get into a shoot out, get yourself or other people hurt, get killed, for what? Some property? If that's the way someone wants to roll, I'm not going to tell them not to. But think it through - the stuff is insured (or should be) and there's a decent shot that it will get recovered. If it doesn't, you collect your check and go get a new one (granted the check will probably take forever to show up, have to fight with the insurance company, etc.). Only you know the answer to that one

For what it's worth!

[CleatusJ]

Originally Posted by Tattoogunman

I'll give you my .02 as someone who was in law enforcement for 16 years.

First, every department has their own policy when it comes to this sort of thing. We had a strict no chase policy (to a point), other departments could are less.

Second, a device like the one you are describing would be something similar to Lo Jack. When Lo Jack was activated, those of us that had the system in our cars could follow the signal and try to locate the vehicle - worked amazingly well. So assuming you could give the police turn by turn directions as to where the vehicle(s) is/are going, I'm *assuming* they would make a good faith effort to find it (we would have - even with the no chase policy). Or they may just tell you to stand by until a report was taken and hope the vehicle(s) is/are recovered at a later time. There are also cases where someone decides to abandon the stuff at some point and then you can lead them to where it is. Or you can go there yourself, hope the bad guy(s) are not there, and then collect your stuff. I recovered more than one stolen vehicle because the owner happened to be out driving around and saw it on a street corner or in a parking lot - strange things happen.

As for taking the law into your own hands, that's your own decision to make - look where it got George Zimmerman I'm not knocking anyone, but it's real easy to sit there and say "I'm gonna run them down with my car and my .45 at my side", but the fact of the matter is you have no clue who you are dealing with. You get into a chase, get into a shoot out, get yourself or other people hurt, get killed, for what? Some property? If that's the way someone wants to roll, I'm not going to tell them not to. But think it through - the stuff is insured (or should be) and there's a decent shot that it will get recovered. If it doesn't, you collect your check and go get a new one (granted the check will probably take forever to show up, have to fight with the insurance company, etc.). Only you know the answer to that one

For what it's worth!

Thanks for that great responce.

[hizzo3]

Good post tattoogunman.

I also forgot to mention something else. Get a v strom. Can't say I've heard of those really being stolen. As added measure, park it next to a Harley see Harley's are good for something.

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[rickmillertx]

I definitely don't want to chase down or try to recover my bike on my own. I want to leave that to the professionals.

I had all of my computer equipment stolen out of my office once in Garland, Texas and the police basically confirmed that it was all gone. They took down serial numbers and then said if it shows up at a pawn shop they will be notified.

I would just hate to call the police and say my bike is within 20 feet of this address and then they tell me that the information will be given to the stolen vehicle department and they will get to it at a later date.

That would be insult to injury.

[KenH]

Get a TW200 and park it next to a V-Strom.

I would follow at a discrete distance. After all, you have the tracking device, so the odds of them disappearing are in your favor. I'd also dial up 911 and keep them informed of my location. I would think waiting for the perps to stop and leave their vehicle would be prudent because that would avoid a chase that could damage your belongings.

Just so everyone knows, there is no locking device to replace the ball mount pin that cannot be defeated in under one second with either a pipe or a large pair of channel locks. There is no cable that cannot be cut in under one second with a big enough pair of bolt cutters, and no chain that cannot be defeated in under one second with a couple drops of liquid oxygen and a banana. Security devices keep honest people honest. If a pro wants your stuff, it's gone. Security devices just make his job a little harder.

[Tattoogunman]

Originally Posted by KenH

Just so everyone knows, there is no locking device to replace the ball mount pin that cannot be defeated in under one second with either a pipe or a large pair of channel locks. There is no cable that cannot be cut in under one second with a big enough pair of bolt cutters, and no chain that cannot be defeated in under one second with a couple drops of liquid oxygen and a banana. Security devices keep honest people honest. If a pro wants your stuff, it's gone. Security devices just make his job a little harder.

Exactly

[hizzo3]

Had a friend back in HS that her dad kept getting tools stolen out of the truck, so he rigged an electric fence inverter to the side panels and put a sticker in the window that warned of electric shock... no more tools were stolen... I wonder of a tazer in the seat would work

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[on1wheel]

You'd probably find the trailer and no bikes. They aren't going to be hauling something like that around for very long.

[Reaper Pete]

Originally Posted by hizzo3

Good post tattoogunman.

I also forgot to mention something else. Get a v strom. Can't say I've heard of those really being stolen. As added measure, park it next to a Harley see Harley's are good for something.

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Pleaseeeeeeeeee no Harley Bashing... If you feel the need to talk trash about a V Strom I'm good with that... But must we trash maybe the best motorcycle of all time, I will get on board with the whole life style crap... So , I'm just saying, exotic motorcycles on a trailer and security tracking devices and the thieves still get your goods... Put a prospect out there or a bad *** Pit Bull...

[DFW_Warrior]

I agree with hizzo, just buy a Strom. Heck I'd probably have to pay for someone to take mine now that it is pushing 100k miles.

[Downs]

Insurance.

[BeemerlessBob]

Buy a Ural and park it next to anything. The other thing will be stolen first.

[DFW_Warrior]

Originally Posted by BeemerBob

Buy a Ural and park it next to anything. The other thing will be stolen first.

Bob for the win!

[hizzo3]

Originally Posted by BeemerBob

Buy a Ural and park it next to anything. The other thing will be stolen first.

The other thing would be stolen first or they just couldn't figure out how to steal a Ural?
1)Its too heavy to reasonably lift.
2)They probably couldn't get it started... IF it ran.
3)Then they gotta figure out how in the world reverse works.
4)Last, they have to ditch the dog with doggles in the monkey seat, as the swarm of hot women come to say "how cute!" (Aka Ural delay factor)

They'd have better luck stealing a helicopter. Ural's come with 1940's style theft deterrent systems stock.

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[KenH]