50CC San Diego, CA to Jacksonville, FL

BuddhaTim · 03-14-2006, 11:48 AM

I just got back home last Saturday night from completing a 50CC IBA ride sponsored by the MTF. The finish coincided with the annual IBA Ride-In in Jacksonville, FL.

For those that are curious, the IBA of course is the Iron Butt Association. The 50CC is one of many certified IBA rides such as Saddle Sore 1000 (1000 miles in 24 hours) -- Coast to Coast ride in 50 hours or less is what I successfully completed. As I said, the ride was sponsored by the MTF or Motorcycle Tourer's Forum. This ride was routed along the I8/I10 corridor from San Diego, CA to Jacksonville, FL.

I left out early on the morning of March 6th with plans to complete a BBG1500 (Bun Burner Gold - 1500 miles in 24 hours). I failed completing ride the by about 30 minutes do to a broken left foot peg that happened in the midst of pea soup thick fog, rain and a temperature drop from mid 60's on the desert floor to just above freezing while riding the last 60 or so miles over the mountain pass into San Diego, CA.

The 50CC was scheduled to leave from the host hotel in San Diego early Wednesday March 8. As well as the riders doing the 50CC, there were better than twice as many riders completing the second half of the 100CCC (Coast to Coast and back in under 100 hours). The 100CCC riders had left Jacksonville early Monday, March 6th. Since this was sponsored by the MTF, the logistics were taken care of them. The CC & CCC participants didn’t need to worry about the routing, starting or ending fuel stops nor witnesses – all were provided by the MTF. So with everything in place we were ready to head out early Wednesday morning.

Wednesday morning about 4:00am we gathered outside the host hotel’s lobby for our motorcycle inspection and witnessing. With that outta the way we were off to the starting fuel stop which will start the clock ticking on the 50 hours. Time started ticking down at 4:20AM and we were off heading East following I8 thru the Southern Californian mountain pass outside San Diego down to the desert floor and Yuma, AZ.

On the way thru the mountains we encountered some strong gusty winds, dense fog, rain and temperatures were in the low forties. As we topped the mountains, the sun was beginning to rise and by the time we were onto the desert floor the sun was well above the eastern horizon and the temperatures were up to a nice warm 55 degrees. With that it was just holding a steady pace east. West of Tucson I8 merges onto I10 and we kept on rollin’ East. Late in the afternoon as we approached Deming, NM we could see dust clouds whirling across the interstate. We soon hit our first dust storm with visibility cut to near zero, foreword movement was slowed to a crawl. Years ago I lived thru three days of brown out dust storms, but I’d never driven in, let alone ridden in dust storms. Luckily this lasted only a few miles. As we entered the outskirts of El Paso, Tx we were again clouded in dust but to complicate things, it was rush hour. Fun and joy for all.

The cause of the dust storm of course is wind. Luckily the wind was at our back 80% of the time for the first day. At times the gusts were blowing debris along the hiway at speeds faster than we were able to travel. One of the benefits of the high winds was the fuel mileage skyrocketed. Instead of 210 miles per tank, we were getting 260 miles per tank for 800 plus miles.

Not long after the I10/I20 intersection east of Van Horn, Tx the sun dropped below the western horizon and we were in the dark again. Entering Ft. Stockton, Tx we spotted the first of many deer for the night. In the median right next to the left lane was a beautiful buck with a nice rack, easily 6 or 8 points. In the distance was could lighting illuminating the clouds in the disstance. Soon the roads were wet but we were still dry. As we came up to Kerrville we decided the weather was closing in and the decision to bail for the night was made. Just over half way to Jacksonville.

Seven hours later we topped off our tanks and began the second half of the ride. We hit San Antonio, Tx at morning rush hour but still made pretty good time. About 11:30 we exited the HOV onto I10 East inside loop I610 in Houston. As we came outta Houston we expected the traffic to clear out a little. It didn’t. Traffic was thick and slow moving thru Louisiana. Not until exiting Louisiana did the traffic magically clear. It was relatively uneventful the rest of the way to the predetermined final fuel stop in Jacksonville, Fl. Just as I killed the engine on the bike 5 other riders pulled in. Oddly we were all within 5 minutes of each other, but had seen any of the others till the final fuel stop. We got our time stamped receipt showing we’d completed the ride in less than the allotted time. We quickly went down to the beach and collected sand and water from the Atlantic Ocean.

We then ran over to our hotel and crashed till mid morning and then went out and met the other riders as well as the others that showed up for the IBA Ride-In. Below are some stats.

50CC
Time: 43:11
Miles: 2451
Fuel: 71.2 gal.
Stops: 13
Avg. Tank: 5.48 gal.
Avg. MPG: 34.42

Total Trip
Miles: 5037
Fuel: 139.27 gal.
Stops: 25
Avg. Tank: 5.57 gal.
Avg. MPG: 36.16

CycleCat · 03-14-2006, 12:01 PM

Congrats! That is quite an achievement!

I have yet to even try an SS-1000.

scratch · 03-14-2006, 12:13 PM

Coast-to-coast on a 50cc bike is truly impressive!

Seriously, that's what I thought until I got down into the meat of your post.

It's certainly an accomplishment in terms of the fortitude and determination it requires, but I just...don't...get the attraction of traveling for hours on end down the interstate.

Different strokes and all that.

**Tourmeister** · 03-14-2006, 12:31 PM

It is a logistical challenge. You have to be efficient with your time. It takes planning. Kind if a Zen no wasted effort thing

SRADkneedragger · 03-14-2006, 01:25 PM

So what 50cc bike did you ride?

John Bennett · 03-14-2006, 01:43 PM

Congratulations Timbo!!! 5,000 miles in a week! Yowza!

I hope you got this IBA stuff out of your system now.

You are very lucky the strong winds in AZ & NM were at your back. The other way around could have resulted in up to 3 more fuel stops, plus sand-blasted your shield making West Texas night driving much more dangerous.

In my humble opinion that stretch of MadMax wasteland between San Diego and Fredricksburg is best viewed through a window from 35,000 feet.

BuddhaTim · 03-14-2006, 01:43 PM

It really isn't the ride. Believe me, seeing miles and miles of desert at night sux. Not many LD riders like the ride, it's the planning of the route, the time management and the huge sense of accomplishmnet at the end when the ride was successfully and completed. The elation that it's over and I DID IT! The cross country ride is just like going to the corner store to top off your tank, but on a much grander scale.

As Tourmeister mentioned, it's a zen kinda thing. I looked at it as a bunch of 200 mile rides. I didn't worry about anything but getting to the next fuel stop effeciantly and getting it completed in a timely manor.

Hairsmith · 03-14-2006, 02:11 PM

My Helmet is off to you Tim.....
I would love to give it a try, but would not like to take that much time off work for it I guess. Other wise I would not be whining I would be riding.

Congratulations !

Thanks for sharing.

BuddhaTim · 03-16-2006, 11:09 AM

Here is a link for a lot of images for the cross country ride.

http://www.teamconsulting.com/2006100ccc/default.htm

John Bennett · 03-16-2006, 06:11 PM

What's the story on this V-Stom pulling a chopper?
http://www.teamconsulting.com/200610...s/IMG_3134.JPG

Did somebody ride along with the RT-P and the sidecar?
http://www.teamconsulting.com/2006100ccc/html/196.htm

Did this guy with the K12 Hummer go on the 50CC?
http://www.teamconsulting.com/2006100ccc/html/192.htm

Now THAT'S a sandstorm!
http://www.teamconsulting.com/2006100ccc/html/104.htm

What I remember about West Texas...
http://www.teamconsulting.com/2006100ccc/html/51.htm

Rocket_Cowboy · 03-16-2006, 06:29 PM

Congrats Tim! Sorry I missed you in Jacksonville ... I'd have rather been there than sick in bed.

BuddhaTim · 03-17-2006, 06:05 PM

NOT everyone in JAX was there for the 50CC or 100CCC. There were several hundred riders there for the IBA Ride-In dinner. Many of the attendees were on their way home from Daytona Bike Week.

1) The V-Strom/Chopper: The chopper was a project the V-Stom rider had just completed. It was a custom frame using a 400 maybe a 500 Nija engine and front end. The guy was proud of it and wanted to show it off as well as the towing capabilities of the V-Stom. Nether bike nore the rider was doing the 50CC this year. He was only there for the IBA Ride-In.

2) It's NOT and RT-P, it's just painted that way. The ower is a paraplegic who suffers/ed from polio.

The tank is some aftermarket 12 gallon job. And no, the sidecar was empty. The rider has previously completed an Iron Butt.

3) The Beemer in the Hummer never touched the ground.

4) Sandstorm.... Spamstorm. That weren't nuttin!

5) Desert. Desert. And more stinkin' DESERT!!!

BuddhaTim · 03-17-2006, 06:11 PM

Hey R.C.

What's up wit you, sick in bed???

You didn't miss much, just a pony show, lots of pomp and circumstance.

Rocket_Cowboy · 03-17-2006, 07:39 PM

I was wanting to be there for the IBA dinner, but also to see you guys rolling in from the 50CC/100CCC. I did my 50CC with the MTF last year, so was hoping to shoot the breeze with Jason, Alan, and the gang. However, my stomach decided not to participate, and would have spontaneous and sudden urge to evacuate all contents. The thought of dealing with that while on a 17 hour bike ride was not encouraging. Finally got to start eating again on Monday.

I've been needing to ride something fierce for a couple of weeks now. I'm hoping to make it up here before long.

**Tracker** · 03-25-2006, 09:31 AM

I'll show my ignorance. What are the box contraptions on most of the rear racks? Coffee injectors?
http://www.teamconsulting.com/2006100ccc/html/186.htm

jhansen · 03-25-2006, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tracker

I'll show my ignorance. What are the box contraptions on most of the rear racks? Coffee injectors?
http://www.teamconsulting.com/2006100ccc/html/186.htm

Either a fuel tank or a large metal bladder for you know what!

BuddhaTim · 03-25-2006, 01:57 PM

Those are auxiliary fuel tanks. Most are IBA spec, 3 to 5 gallon depending on the MC's main tank -- the two together must NOT be more than 11 gallons total.

No. No bladder relief tank.... but some of the guys do have Piss Tubs. You really want to know who those riders are so you can stay clear.

Here's and example:

See it dangling there by the side cover.

And here's a sad site. A BMW not rolling along the hiway. The bike never touched the ground the entire time we were there. I decided it was more for a conversation piece than to ride.

If you wanna see a few more images, go to this thread:
http://invisionfree.com/forums/ETMot...showtopic=3816

John Bennett · 03-26-2006, 09:06 AM

In the "old days" nursing homes used a thing called a "Texas Catheter". These would be handy for Xtreme LD rides.

Basically, it slips over your pener so you don't have to stop for bathroom breaks.

I did a Google search to find this. In doing so I learned there is such a thing as "medical fetish". I never knew.

http://www.erosboutique.org/store/me..._Code=medical2

My grandmother ordered me to "Learn something new every day". Mission Accomplished Grammy!

Jack Giesecke · 03-26-2006, 09:17 AM

I'm picturin' myself folded up on an NSR50 for 2400 miles, hmmm, no thanks. After an hour of intense endurance racing, I practically fall off one.

But, on John Casleys NSR, we were averaging 70+ mph at Oak Hill in the six hour last year. Okay, John had a 63cc kit in it, cheater bike for that Iron Butt thing. Don't know if it'd go 2400 miles on one set of rings, though.

Not sure the piston, but I bet the crank would handle it. And, installing a new piston kit on the side of the road would take less than an hour.

Rocket_Cowboy · 03-26-2006, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Bennett

In the "old days" nursing homes used a thing called a "Texas Catheter". These would be handy for Xtreme LD rides.

There are newer devices, things like the "Stadium Pal" and similar designs, that skip the storage bag and go straight to a drain tube. Now ... I don't know if I'm more worried about the name of the product ... I mean, do people actually use these at sports stadiums ... or just worried that the drainage would get on the bike and make the paint dirty. :D

Either way ... bathroom breaks are one of the few luxuries I permit myself on endurance rides. I do everything else on the bike, I can dismount for a 5 minute proper bio-brake when needed.

03-14-2006, 11:48 AM	#1
BuddhaTim Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Conroe Posts: 108	50CC San Diego, CA to Jacksonville, FL I just got back home last Saturday night from completing a 50CC IBA ride sponsored by the MTF. The finish coincided with the annual IBA Ride-In in Jacksonville, FL. For those that are curious, the IBA of course is the Iron Butt Association. The 50CC is one of many certified IBA rides such as Saddle Sore 1000 (1000 miles in 24 hours) -- Coast to Coast ride in 50 hours or less is what I successfully completed. As I said, the ride was sponsored by the MTF or Motorcycle Tourer's Forum. This ride was routed along the I8/I10 corridor from San Diego, CA to Jacksonville, FL. I left out early on the morning of March 6th with plans to complete a BBG1500 (Bun Burner Gold - 1500 miles in 24 hours). I failed completing ride the by about 30 minutes do to a broken left foot peg that happened in the midst of pea soup thick fog, rain and a temperature drop from mid 60's on the desert floor to just above freezing while riding the last 60 or so miles over the mountain pass into San Diego, CA. The 50CC was scheduled to leave from the host hotel in San Diego early Wednesday March 8. As well as the riders doing the 50CC, there were better than twice as many riders completing the second half of the 100CCC (Coast to Coast and back in under 100 hours). The 100CCC riders had left Jacksonville early Monday, March 6th. Since this was sponsored by the MTF, the logistics were taken care of them. The CC & CCC participants didn’t need to worry about the routing, starting or ending fuel stops nor witnesses – all were provided by the MTF. So with everything in place we were ready to head out early Wednesday morning. Wednesday morning about 4:00am we gathered outside the host hotel’s lobby for our motorcycle inspection and witnessing. With that outta the way we were off to the starting fuel stop which will start the clock ticking on the 50 hours. Time started ticking down at 4:20AM and we were off heading East following I8 thru the Southern Californian mountain pass outside San Diego down to the desert floor and Yuma, AZ. On the way thru the mountains we encountered some strong gusty winds, dense fog, rain and temperatures were in the low forties. As we topped the mountains, the sun was beginning to rise and by the time we were onto the desert floor the sun was well above the eastern horizon and the temperatures were up to a nice warm 55 degrees. With that it was just holding a steady pace east. West of Tucson I8 merges onto I10 and we kept on rollin’ East. Late in the afternoon as we approached Deming, NM we could see dust clouds whirling across the interstate. We soon hit our first dust storm with visibility cut to near zero, foreword movement was slowed to a crawl. Years ago I lived thru three days of brown out dust storms, but I’d never driven in, let alone ridden in dust storms. Luckily this lasted only a few miles. As we entered the outskirts of El Paso, Tx we were again clouded in dust but to complicate things, it was rush hour. Fun and joy for all. The cause of the dust storm of course is wind. Luckily the wind was at our back 80% of the time for the first day. At times the gusts were blowing debris along the hiway at speeds faster than we were able to travel. One of the benefits of the high winds was the fuel mileage skyrocketed. Instead of 210 miles per tank, we were getting 260 miles per tank for 800 plus miles. Not long after the I10/I20 intersection east of Van Horn, Tx the sun dropped below the western horizon and we were in the dark again. Entering Ft. Stockton, Tx we spotted the first of many deer for the night. In the median right next to the left lane was a beautiful buck with a nice rack, easily 6 or 8 points. In the distance was could lighting illuminating the clouds in the disstance. Soon the roads were wet but we were still dry. As we came up to Kerrville we decided the weather was closing in and the decision to bail for the night was made. Just over half way to Jacksonville. Seven hours later we topped off our tanks and began the second half of the ride. We hit San Antonio, Tx at morning rush hour but still made pretty good time. About 11:30 we exited the HOV onto I10 East inside loop I610 in Houston. As we came outta Houston we expected the traffic to clear out a little. It didn’t. Traffic was thick and slow moving thru Louisiana. Not until exiting Louisiana did the traffic magically clear. It was relatively uneventful the rest of the way to the predetermined final fuel stop in Jacksonville, Fl. Just as I killed the engine on the bike 5 other riders pulled in. Oddly we were all within 5 minutes of each other, but had seen any of the others till the final fuel stop. We got our time stamped receipt showing we’d completed the ride in less than the allotted time. We quickly went down to the beach and collected sand and water from the Atlantic Ocean. We then ran over to our hotel and crashed till mid morning and then went out and met the other riders as well as the others that showed up for the IBA Ride-In. Below are some stats. 50CC Time: 43:11 Miles: 2451 Fuel: 71.2 gal. Stops: 13 Avg. Tank: 5.48 gal. Avg. MPG: 34.42 Total Trip Miles: 5037 Fuel: 139.27 gal. Stops: 25 Avg. Tank: 5.57 gal. Avg. MPG: 36.16 __________________ BuddhaTim Conroe,Tx '04 Honda GL1800 "RedWing"

03-14-2006, 12:01 PM	#2
CycleCat Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: 7600 feet up Posts: 1,260	Re: 50CC San Diego, CA to Jacksonville, FL Congrats! That is quite an achievement! I have yet to even try an SS-1000. __________________ Chris Bell Vadito, NM (formerly Austin) A red Guzzi & a blue Ducati

03-14-2006, 12:13 PM	#3
scratch User's account inactive by request Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 4,981	Re: 50CC San Diego, CA to Jacksonville, FL Coast-to-coast on a 50cc bike is truly impressive! Seriously, that's what I thought until I got down into the meat of your post. It's certainly an accomplishment in terms of the fortitude and determination it requires, but I just...don't...get the attraction of traveling for hours on end down the interstate. Different strokes and all that.

03-14-2006, 01:25 PM	#5
SRADkneedragger Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,741	Re: 50CC San Diego, CA to Jacksonville, FL So what 50cc bike did you ride?

03-14-2006, 01:43 PM	#6
John Bennett Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 2,794	Re: 50CC San Diego, CA to Jacksonville, FL Congratulations Timbo!!! 5,000 miles in a week! Yowza! I hope you got this IBA stuff out of your system now. You are very lucky the strong winds in AZ & NM were at your back. The other way around could have resulted in up to 3 more fuel stops, plus sand-blasted your shield making West Texas night driving much more dangerous. In my humble opinion that stretch of MadMax wasteland between San Diego and Fredricksburg is best viewed through a window from 35,000 feet.

03-14-2006, 02:11 PM	#8
Hairsmith Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nacogdoches Posts: 2,000	Re: 50CC San Diego, CA to Jacksonville, FL My Helmet is off to you Tim..... I would love to give it a try, but would not like to take that much time off work for it I guess. Other wise I would not be whining I would be riding. Congratulations ! Thanks for sharing. __________________ Hairsmith 2000 R1150GS 1983 R100RS 1997 F650 "Ride Hard, Eat Hearty, Be Grateful" -Alton Brown So, the moral of the story is, if you can ride, you won't worry about how tall it is. -gotdurt "A Camera And A Bike....What More Do I Need?" - Dutchinterceptor (TIRES Dutch You need new tires before you leave!)

03-16-2006, 11:09 AM	#9
BuddhaTim Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Conroe Posts: 108	Re: 50CC San Diego, CA to Jacksonville, FL Here is a link for a lot of images for the cross country ride. http://www.teamconsulting.com/2006100ccc/default.htm __________________ BuddhaTim Conroe,Tx '04 Honda GL1800 "RedWing"

03-16-2006, 06:11 PM	#10
John Bennett Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 2,794	Re: 50CC San Diego, CA to Jacksonville, FL What's the story on this V-Stom pulling a chopper? http://www.teamconsulting.com/200610...s/IMG_3134.JPG Did somebody ride along with the RT-P and the sidecar? http://www.teamconsulting.com/2006100ccc/html/196.htm Did this guy with the K12 Hummer go on the 50CC? http://www.teamconsulting.com/2006100ccc/html/192.htm Now THAT'S a sandstorm! http://www.teamconsulting.com/2006100ccc/html/104.htm What I remember about West Texas... http://www.teamconsulting.com/2006100ccc/html/51.htm

03-16-2006, 06:29 PM	#11
Rocket_Cowboy LDRider Join Date: May 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,711	Re: 50CC San Diego, CA to Jacksonville, FL Congrats Tim! Sorry I missed you in Jacksonville ... I'd have rather been there than sick in bed. __________________ ->Charlie 2006 BMW R1200RT 2004 Suzuki SV1000S Ride Pictures Ride Blog

03-17-2006, 06:05 PM	#12
BuddhaTim Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Conroe Posts: 108	Re: 50CC San Diego, CA to Jacksonville, FL NOT everyone in JAX was there for the 50CC or 100CCC. There were several hundred riders there for the IBA Ride-In dinner. Many of the attendees were on their way home from Daytona Bike Week. 1) The V-Strom/Chopper: The chopper was a project the V-Stom rider had just completed. It was a custom frame using a 400 maybe a 500 Nija engine and front end. The guy was proud of it and wanted to show it off as well as the towing capabilities of the V-Stom. Nether bike nore the rider was doing the 50CC this year. He was only there for the IBA Ride-In. 2) It's NOT and RT-P, it's just painted that way. The ower is a paraplegic who suffers/ed from polio. The tank is some aftermarket 12 gallon job. And no, the sidecar was empty. The rider has previously completed an Iron Butt. 3) The Beemer in the Hummer never touched the ground. 4) Sandstorm.... Spamstorm. That weren't nuttin! 5) Desert. Desert. And more stinkin' DESERT!!! __________________ BuddhaTim Conroe,Tx '04 Honda GL1800 "RedWing"

03-17-2006, 06:11 PM	#13
BuddhaTim Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Conroe Posts: 108	Re: 50CC San Diego, CA to Jacksonville, FL Hey R.C. What's up wit you, sick in bed??? You didn't miss much, just a pony show, lots of pomp and circumstance. __________________ BuddhaTim Conroe,Tx '04 Honda GL1800 "RedWing"

03-17-2006, 07:39 PM	#14
Rocket_Cowboy LDRider Join Date: May 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,711	Re: 50CC San Diego, CA to Jacksonville, FL I was wanting to be there for the IBA dinner, but also to see you guys rolling in from the 50CC/100CCC. I did my 50CC with the MTF last year, so was hoping to shoot the breeze with Jason, Alan, and the gang. However, my stomach decided not to participate, and would have spontaneous and sudden urge to evacuate all contents. The thought of dealing with that while on a 17 hour bike ride was not encouraging. Finally got to start eating again on Monday. I've been needing to ride something fierce for a couple of weeks now. I'm hoping to make it up here before long. __________________ ->Charlie 2006 BMW R1200RT 2004 Suzuki SV1000S Ride Pictures Ride Blog

03-25-2006, 09:31 AM	#15
Tracker Forum Supporter Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Nowhereland Posts: 5,141	Re: 50CC San Diego, CA to Jacksonville, FL I'll show my ignorance. What are the box contraptions on most of the rear racks? Coffee injectors? http://www.teamconsulting.com/2006100ccc/html/186.htm __________________ official poser & virtual rider

03-25-2006, 01:57 PM	#17
BuddhaTim Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Conroe Posts: 108	Re: 50CC San Diego, CA to Jacksonville, FL Those are auxiliary fuel tanks. Most are IBA spec, 3 to 5 gallon depending on the MC's main tank -- the two together must NOT be more than 11 gallons total. No. No bladder relief tank.... but some of the guys do have Piss Tubs. You really want to know who those riders are so you can stay clear. Here's and example: See it dangling there by the side cover. And here's a sad site. A BMW not rolling along the hiway. The bike never touched the ground the entire time we were there. I decided it was more for a conversation piece than to ride. If you wanna see a few more images, go to this thread: http://invisionfree.com/forums/ETMot...showtopic=3816 __________________ BuddhaTim Conroe,Tx '04 Honda GL1800 "RedWing"

03-26-2006, 09:06 AM	#18
John Bennett Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 2,794	Re: 50CC San Diego, CA to Jacksonville, FL In the "old days" nursing homes used a thing called a "Texas Catheter". These would be handy for Xtreme LD rides. Basically, it slips over your pener so you don't have to stop for bathroom breaks. I did a Google search to find this. In doing so I learned there is such a thing as "medical fetish". I never knew. http://www.erosboutique.org/store/me..._Code=medical2 My grandmother ordered me to "Learn something new every day". Mission Accomplished Grammy!

03-26-2006, 09:17 AM	#19
Jack Giesecke Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Port Lavaca, Texas Posts: 9,583	Re: 50CC San Diego, CA to Jacksonville, FL I'm picturin' myself folded up on an NSR50 for 2400 miles, hmmm, no thanks. After an hour of intense endurance racing, I practically fall off one. But, on John Casleys NSR, we were averaging 70+ mph at Oak Hill in the six hour last year. Okay, John had a 63cc kit in it, cheater bike for that Iron Butt thing. Don't know if it'd go 2400 miles on one set of rings, though. Not sure the piston, but I bet the crank would handle it. And, installing a new piston kit on the side of the road would take less than an hour. __________________ "Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add "within the limits of the law" because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." - Thomas Jefferson

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