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10th Annual Smokey Bear Dual Sport Motorcycle Ride 7/30-8/3/18 Cloudcroft, New Mexico

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Announcing the 10th annual Smokey Bear Dual Sport Motorcycle Ride.

Monday, July 30 - Friday, August 3, 2018.

Come spend a week riding your motorcycle in an alpine environment away from the Texas heat.


9th Annual Smokey Bear Dual Sport Motorcycle Ride 2017 - What Happened?

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Weather information
Average temperature end of July / first of August high 70.5° & low 46.7°

Goal
I want to invite others to come out and ride for three reasons, (other than to meet new riding friends).

1. The trails need more riding in. If we don't use the trails we risk losing access.
2. More riders over a short period of time will demonstrate the positive economic impact of motorcyclists responsibly using National Forest land.
3. Although there is no cost to participate in the ride I would like to make a group donation to a local Cloudcroft organization or charity to give back and further motorcyclists cause as a responsible user group; organization and amount TBD. Regardless of the local Cloudcroft organization or charity I would like to get a group of riders together for a short ceremony to make the donation at lunch time one day.

Basic information
The ride is based in Cloudcroft, New Mexico. For an idea of the riding available check out the pictures and video from the 2011 Ride Report. For even more trail / forest service road videos click HERE, search New Mexico 400 or Smokey Bear Dual Sport Motorcycle Ride.

Invite your family, invite your friends, everyone is welcome and encouraged to attend and ride. You determine when you arrive or depart and your level of participation each day - ride all day, 1/2 a day or not at all. My family plans to ride Monday through Friday.

No formal rides, meetings or routes. Just an excuse to ride in the mountains and escape the Texas heat, plus see 3 reasons above. Available terrain ranges from class 1 roads to extreme enduro type trails with astounding variety and options, in fact part of the NMBDR route goes through the area. With riders of different skill levels attending you should be able to ride with someone or a group that fits your ability. I.E. Find the group that is going to ride at the level you want for the day. If you need to warm up (temperature wise) and get tired of aspen and pine trees head west 10 or so miles down the mountain for some desert riding.

I will be happy to give route and terrain advice from the areas I've ridden, I still haven't ridden it all in 10 tries, plus a lot of TWTer's have extensive knowledge of the area. Fortunately the detailed Map makes it easy to explore and find your way back.

The great thing about riding in the Cloudcroft area is it doesn't take extensive planning just a willingness to explore. I've never used GPS in Cloudcroft, but usually always do in Texas. Why? There are so many options. I usually just head out of town each day in a different direction from the day before and let the ride flow. See a legal road or trail, check it out. Signage has improved in the area but not perfect, which in doubt check the Map. At an intersection we go the way that looks the most fun and where the sky is lighter. Most days there will be a shower somewhere in the forest, usually easily avoided by watching the sky, that also keeps the dust down or eliminates it completely. If a road or trail is too wet, like the three bears you can usually find one that is just right. Then at 3 or 4p in the afternoon wherever we are in the forest we find our location or the MVUM Map and connect the best route back to Cloudcroft.

My family will be on plated dirt bikes but there are plenty of forest service and logging roads for heavier dual sports and adventure bikes. The days my wife rides we stick mostly to gravel forest service roads and logging roads as most of the single-track trails are very technical. I try to get in at least one full day on the Rim Trail and other single-track trails.

My wife and I plan to arrive on Saturday night to get situated on Sunday, scouting, getting last minutes items, and maybe even riding a little.

Lodging
Up in the clouds, at nearly 9,000, feet, Cloudcroft offers heavenly lodging options. Stay in a romantic cabin nestled in the pines or a Victorian retreat in the heart of the village. Click here - To find convenient lodges, hotels, condos, townhouses, camping areas and more.

We stay at the Spruce Cabins, there are lots of cabins in town and several motels. The Spruce Cabins offers a 10% motorcycle discount but you have to ask for it to receive it.
If you stay 6 nights at the Spruce Cabins, the 7th night is free, since we already booked 6 nights we are going to arrive a day early and take advantage of the extra night.

Camping in Lincoln National Forest

Unofficial Gatherings
Sunday, July 29 @ 7p - Big Daddy's Diner

Tuesday, July 31 @ 7p - Western Bar & Cafe for Taco Tuesday

Thursday, August 2 @ 1p - Weed Cafe

The unofficial banquet will be Friday, August 3th at Ski Cloudcroft. Unofficial meaning, no host, show up if you want, when you want, of course during their business hours. My group will probably get there between 630 & 7p.


http://skicloudcroft.net/ - "The restaurant is also open for the summer, Friday 4-8 PM, Saturday 12-8 PM, and Sunday 12-7 PM. Get out of the heat and enjoy one of our famous pizzas on the deck and cool summer air."

Restaurants

Fuel

Riding requirements
Motorcycles registered for use on public streets are not required to be registered for off-highway motor vehicle use. NEW MEXICO OFF-HIGHWAY MOTOR VEHICLE (OHV) PROGRAM
A Texas (or New Mexico) OHV sticker is required for off road only motorcycles to ride on National Forest land. Texas Off-Highway Vehicles (OHV) Program / Out of State or Visitor Permitting Rquirements

General jetting information


Trail information
Paper maps and other trail information is available at the Sacramento Ranger District office, 4 Lost Lodge Rd, Cloudcroft, NM 88317 Office Hours: 8:00am - 4:00pm M-F
Trail information
Trail spreadsheet with difficulty ratings
Motor Vehicle Use Map
A MVUM map with trail ratings highlighted, marked easy, moderate, and difficult as per the rating spreadsheet, prepared by the TrailBoss.
High Altitude on Burro street also sells the forest service map, and a topo map. Click on High Altitude more more info and an interactive topo map.

GPS track maps
Cloudcroft partial overview
Rim Trail GPS
Benson Ridge area, Taylor Canyon Trail (T5007) & Wills Canyon Trail (T5008)
West Side Road
Apple Tree Canyon Trail (T5601)
Karr Canyon Rd

New Mexico off-road riding information
http://www.nmohva.org/main/index.php
http://www.b4uride.com/

About the area
Cloudcroft Chamber of Commerce

Alamogordo is 16 miles to the west (about 4500 feet lower in elevation) has the major chain stores and several motorcycle shops.

Cloudcroft, New Mexico is....
* up at 9,000 elevation.
* 40 miles from casino wagering and golf at the Inn of the Mountain Gods.
* 50 miles from Ruidoso Downs.
* 16 miles from the Space Museum, Alameda Park Zoo, and Toy Train Depot in Alamogordo.
* 40 miles from White Sands National Monument.
* 150 miles from Carlsbad Caverns.
* 90 miles from El Paso and the Mexican border.
* Within 50 miles of 8 magnificent golf courses.

Why is the ride named after Smokey Bear? In 1950 a real baby bear became the live "Smokey” when he was rescued from certain death by firefighters in a devastating blaze in New Mexico's Lincoln National Forest.

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[ame="[MEDIA=youtube]9yPDsSNf27s:7[/MEDIA]"]NM True TV - Season 5 - Episode 12: A Weekend in Cloudcroft - YouTube[/ame]​
 
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I will be the first to say I am going to make this happen for sure...


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This looks like the perfect Summer ride. My son and I are tentatively in. Will just have to see how the Summer schedule shakes out. Wife may come and bring her Tdub as well. Thanks for organizing. Can you get away without re-jetting or will the bikes run like crap? Coming from the Austin area.


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For my XR400R with a pumper carb I usually drop 2 sizes on the main, I also went 1 size smaller on the pilot this year. I was a little lean, I'll probably just drop one size on the main only next year. On my wife's TTR125L I just drop one size on the main with the stock pilot jet. To keep Murphy at bay I take extra jets on each side to be safe.

Some guys I ride with on WR450s don't rejet and get away with it. Of course every bike is different, sometimes even the same make and model, and mods.

I found this info online.
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For my XR400R with a pumper carb I usually drop 2 sizes on the main, I also went 1 size smaller on the pilot this year. I was a little lean, I'll probably just drop one size on the main only next year. On my wife's TTR125L I just drop one size on the main with the stock pilot jet. To keep Murphy at bay I take extra jets on each side to be safe.



Some guys I ride with on WR450s don't rejet and get away with it. Of course every bike is different, sometimes even the same make and model, and mods.



I found this info online.

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Thanks for the advice. This is very helpful.



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I used to have a place in weed, and still have friends there. I’ve been riding up there since 09 and it’s my favorite place to ride. Endless dirt roads and no traffic. You can ride all day and see very little people. At any time you can pull and hike into the woods and be the only person for miles. There’s lots of Elk too if you know where to look. I’ll definitely try to make this ride, it will be nice to ride with a group up there.


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Surprised the temperature let's you ride there . I picture it being below freezing thru February
 
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We went up to ski, we knew that was out before we went and discussed taking bikes. The ice rink was only open one night due to the warmer weather. Anything south facing was clear of snow and dry. It was cool, but I still could have worked up a sweat on the single track.

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I did this ride last year and had the time of my life. I rode my little wr250r all the way from San Antonio to cloudcroft in just 11 hours with 11 fuel stops (no extra gas, was on fumes many times) and tent camped. Can't wait to do it this year but I'm probably going to rent a trailer this time!
 
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Hope I'll get a chance to ride with y'all this year. I'm in TX this week closing on a farm near Athens.
Those pictures are already making me home sick!
 
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I did this ride last year and had the time of my life. I rode my little wr250r all the way from San Antonio to cloudcroft in just 11 hours with 11 fuel stops (no extra gas, was on fumes many times) and tent camped. Can't wait to do it this year but I'm probably going to rent a trailer this time!
I love telling your story -AMAZING!!!
 
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Hope I'll get a chance to ride with y'all this year. I'm in TX this week closing on a farm near Athens.
Those pictures are already making me home sick!
I live in Athens. Me and a friend from Athens are going on this ride. We've both rode up there before. We should meet up and ride some of the FM roads sometime after you close. I'm not a fan of Hwy riding but there are plenty on FM's and black tops around Athens.

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I live in Athens. Me and a friend from Athens are going on this ride. We've both rode up there before. We should meet up and ride some of the FM roads sometime after you close. I'm not a fan of Hwy riding but there are plenty on FM's and black tops around Athens.

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Look forward to it. I'm hoping the dirt roads in east TX will eventually dry out after all this rain!
 
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Look forward to it. I'm hoping the dirt roads in east TX will eventually dry out after all this rain!
I just saw you live in Cloudcroft. If I could make a living up there, that's where I would live. I visit 3 to 5 times a year. Athens is nice, but your going to miss the dirt roads in NM. There's just not that many left in East Texas

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Anyway I have little desire to ride my wr250r another 1300 miles there and back. I'm torn with 2 options. I can rent a trailer and maybe a couple others I could bring along to help split gas, etc. Or if anyone is going and has a spot for me and the bike I would be grateful and help out with the cost.

Either option let me know if it's something you are interested in.
 

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Just booked my cabin for the week!


I am going to make this, but I would like to find something a bit, how shall I say, nicer to stay in.

I have been to the hotel once and the cabins once, are there many other choices?

No I am not trying to sound snooty, just looking at options :)


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I am going to make this, but I would like to find something a bit, how shall I say, nicer to stay in.

I have been to the hotel once and the cabins once, are there many other choices?

No I am not trying to sound snooty, just looking at options :)


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I thought our last cabins where fabulous :rider:
 

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I thought our last cabins where fabulous :rider:


The company was great the cabins were way better than the hotel room.

Vinny are you going this year? We should talk . . .

My wife might go, hence the nicer digs question


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The company was great the cabins were way better than the hotel room.

Vinny are you going this year? We should talk . . .

My wife might go, hence the nicer digs question


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I normally stay in the Weed/Sacramento area when I'm up there, but that's probably further than you want to be from Cloudcroft. Camp of the tall pines in weed has cabins and Sacramento Methodist campground has a few cabins and their newer dormitories are nice and hotel like. I did a vrbo search for cloudcroft and there's a lot available. I may rent one of those on our next family trip.

https://www.vrbo.com/results?q=Cloudcroft,+NM,+USA&to-date=&from-date=&uuid=

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Planning on taking my 15 year old son and trailering around Cloudcroft to get to the trails that don't require plated bikes. Any "must do" OHV trails that you recommend? Son and I will probably stick to the moderate difficulty roads and trails.

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I am going to make this, but I would like to find something a bit, how shall I say, nicer to stay in.

I have been to the hotel once and the cabins once, are there many other choices?

No I am not trying to sound snooty, just looking at options :)


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The Lodge is nice.
 
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Planning on taking my 15 year old son and trailering around Cloudcroft to get to the trails that don't require plated bikes. Any "must do" OHV trails that you recommend? Son and I will probably stick to the moderate difficulty roads and trails.

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If you stay on dirt, you just need a nm ohv sticker. You can purchase a 3 month permit.

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New Mexico Non-Resident Fee Exceptions

*** With the passage of SB 379, the Off-Highway Motor Vehicle (OHV) law changed the requirements of non-residents who need to purchase a non-resident permit. The new law now recognizes a non-resident operating an OHV is in compliance with New Mexico if that person: is currently in compliance with another state’s off-highway vehicle registration, user fee or similar law or rule demonstrated by certificate of registration, permit or similar evidence…(66-3-1004.C NMSA 1978).

We trailered out to the trail heads each day the first three years. Lots of spots to park that will connect up to lots of riding. Such parking area 1 for the Rim Trail on the Sunspot Hwy, FSR223 and Alamo Peak Rd off the Sunspot Hwy.

You could even park on Burro Ave, and to be legal push your bike a short distance to the Pines Trail (T568) to connect to Pines North Trail (T5688) for more two track and some ATV trails north of town or the dirt route down to the West Side Road.

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New Mexico Non-Resident Fee Exceptions



*** With the passage of SB 379, the Off-Highway Motor Vehicle (OHV) law changed the requirements of non-residents who need to purchase a non-resident permit. The new law now recognizes a non-resident operating an OHV is in compliance with New Mexico if that person: is currently in compliance with another state’s off-highway vehicle registration, user fee or similar law or rule demonstrated by certificate of registration, permit or similar evidence…(66-3-1004.C NMSA 1978).



We trailered out to the trail heads each day the first three years. Lots of spots to park that will connect up to lots of riding. Such parking area 1 for the Rim Trail on the Sunspot Hwy, FSR223 and Alamo Peak Rd off the Sunspot Hwy.



You could even park on Burro Ave, and to be legal push your bike a short distance to the Pines Trail (T568) to connect to Pines North Trail (T5688) for more two track and some ATV trails north of town or the dirt route down to the West Side Road.



Sacramento Ranger District (Cloudcroft area) Motor Vehicle Use Map (MVUM)


Great info! Thanks. Will get Texas OHV stickers and hit the spots you listed. Both the kid and I are excited to ride in NM and meet you guys.


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I am going to make this, but I would like to find something a bit, how shall I say, nicer to stay in.

I have been to the hotel once and the cabins once, are there many other choices?

No I am not trying to sound snooty, just looking at options :)


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Hi Mike, three years ago, five of us rented this place for 5 days. Look around at this and other cabins available on Amigo's site.

http://www.amigorealtyllc.com/c/Day-Cabin
 
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Lot of Campgrounds in the Area, Any recommendations? would like to get a site reserved for this trip. Thanks!
 
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Sander...On the days your wife goes riding, you mentioned staying on Jeep roads and such. How many miles does that type trip entail?
My wife rides a greatly shortened 200 2 stroke but i'd be worried about mileage. Although I think it would not be a problem I was just wondering.
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My wife rides a plated plated Yamaha TTR125L with the stock tank, she has never had to switch to reserve. We average about 60 miles per day, I think my group has only broken 100 miles in a day a couple of times when just riding around Cloudcroft. We wander around out in the woods until mid-afternoon then plan a route back in to town. For me 60 miles of dual sporting equals 200-250 of adventure riding.

There is gas available in of course Cloudcroft, but also Weed, High Rolls, Mayhill and Pinion.

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My wife rides a plated plated Yamaha TTR125L with the stock tank, she has never had to switch to reserve. We average about 60 miles per day, I think my group has only broken 100 miles in a day a couple of times when just riding around Cloudcroft. We wander around out in the woods until mid-afternoon then plan a route back in to town. For me 60 miles of dual sporting equals 200-250 of adventure riding.

There is gas available in of course Cloudcroft, but also Weed, High Rolls, Mayhill and Pinion.

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This picture may be exactly what I need to talk my wife into going and riding her TDub. She goes kind of slow but I think she would enjoy the scenery as long as we stick to double track. 60 mile rides sound like my cup of tea as well specially on a smaller bike.


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Im not sure if we can make it

We just ordered his and hers Radrover electric bicycles

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Interesting. I like the concept of this as far as well get together at a given time and meet up to ride. Not an organized rally, but just a group that comes together at an agreed upon time and place. Gonna try to see if I can make this one.
 

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Lot of Campgrounds in the Area, Any recommendations? would like to get a site reserved for this trip. Thanks!
Getting a reservation is a good idea. Summer is probably busy up there. Late July is the early part of the monsoon season I think, so the desire to camp in the afternoon rain is an requirement.

There are many national forest campgrounds in that area. Or there used to be. I haven't been there in a few years.
 
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Any big bikes going? I would be interested if there are. I am on an africa twin and don't want to do difficult single tracks.

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Any big bikes going? I would be interested if there are. I am on an africa twin and don't want to do difficult single tracks.

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There are many twisty paved roads and quite a few gravel roads as well in that area of New Mexico. I'm not sure what bikes I'll even own by then or which of them will be operational. So I might bring the big GS. No guarantees. :trust:
 
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BBJ there are a lot of great forest roads that out there. We rode several hundred miles there and barely scratched the surface plenty of fun to be had on and off road on a big bike. One of my riding partners was on GS800 and he went everywhere we went. I would really like to go this year but I am not sure I am going to make it. We are doing the NMBDR in early June and my son will be gone during this years event. I am sure i am going to be way behind on work and I'm not sure Ill catch up in time.
 

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Well, well...I am in Mayhill, New Mexico for the weekend with Jazzy Gina. I was sitting at lunch today and the park ranger mentioned that due to the extreme drought conditions, they may close all FR trails to motorized vehicles including hikers by May 12 if they do not receive significant rain.

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Well, well...I am in Mayhill, New Mexico for the weekend with Jazzy Gina. I was sitting at lunch today and the park ranger mentioned that due to the extreme drought conditions, they may close all FR trails to motorized vehicles including hikers by May 12 if they do not receive significant rain.

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Aaagghh!! Say it isn't so. I was worried about that because of the drought. Let's hope they get some rain pronto.
 
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That isn't uncommon before the monsoon season hits.

Spring is the windy season. These high winds dry the forest to the point of extreme fire danger. Fire is a constant threat in the Lincoln National Forest. The fire season usually starts in March or April and continues through mid-July. If the fire danger becomes too high, open fires may be prohibited, and forest areas and roads may be closed. The rainy season begins in July and continues through September, helping to end the immediate fire threat.
 
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I saw that they issued stage one restrictions already. Since 2010 they have only closed the fire roads once that I'm aware of. Hopefully it won't happen this year.

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