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2018 BMW G310GS rolling review and mods

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thought I would start a thread for the new mini me GS and update as the miles build up.

I think BMW is going to have a big hit on their hands, already they are having trouble getting enough of them, two days is as long as they last on the floor.
when I had pretty much decided to get one they had two, a red one and one with the optional pearl white with red and blue stripes known as the rally version, the next morning the red one was gone and two other guys were looking hard at the rally one when I snatched it out from under them.

a lot of people are concerned about it being built in India, I can say so far that there is nothing to worry about. BMW has a large group of engineers on site to make sure they are up to their standards.
I say it is built better than the BIG GS as there is no final drive gear box to fail in flames and it does not have the can bus electrical system.

one week in pluses :
this is not a little bike, it is a full size bike but is no where as tall as its bigger brothers, so people like me who are semi inseam challenged fit it perfectly.
this is hands down the most comfortable stock seat I have ever sat on.
the relation of the seat to pegs to bars geometry is dead on perfect. this is a all day any day comfortable bike.

some reviews have called the engine buzzy at speed, the reviewers must be used to riding goldwings and K1600's as they have no clue what a buzzy engine is. yes there is a bit of high frequency vibration but it is very mild.

the headlight pattern is pretty good, the bulb is not the brightest but as you can change it without needing a single tool, it is very easy to fix the brightness.

the gauge cluster gives you speed (appears to be pretty accurate) RPM bar graph, gear display, fuel gauge, and you can toggle between odometer, two trip odometers, engine temperature, average fuel economy, instant fuel economy, average speed,range till empty,and the date.

it also has a low fuel light that came on at 34 miles remaining and it is supposed to switch to the miles remaining when the light comes on if it is not already in that display mode.
I ran it down to where it showed just 15 miles remaining and it took 2.6 gallons to fill up so there should have been 3 tenths remaining.

some reviews complained about the brakes, I did a unintentional stoppie during the demo ride, these econo brembos (bybre= BY BREmbo) work just fine and the ABS is quick and smooth. the rear pedal is fixed and not adjustable, that is the one negative about the brakes. the front lever is not adjustable but I have no issue with the reach and I have smaller hands.

negatives:
the side stand needs a better lever than the little stud it has, putting it down is very easy and it pops into the down position quite positively but that requires a pretty heavy shove to get it back up and the foot peg is in the way.

it has a pretty light fly wheel, you have to have it at 3000rpm or above when you start off or it can and will instantly die right there at the green light.
the clutch is smooth and has a good even take up once broke in so you do adapt, and the engine is less prone to stalling once it is warmed up.

a big negative is there are going to be tons of aftermarket parts available for this bike to suck my bank account dry with:lol2:

I already have Hepco and becker engine and tank guards on order from germany for it and SW-motech skid plate from England.
and after hours of research about to order a GTR Lighting Gen3 LED conversion for it and Denali DM spots.
 
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Leon, That's what your bank account is for: farkles :)

Is a freer flowing exhaust and an aftermarket engine controller on your list?
 

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A exhaust system is probably inevitable, the intake honk is way louder than the exhaust.
it uses a wide band O2 sensor and fuels pretty good, I have not seen anything about anyone working on anything for the fuel side.

a couple plusses I forgot to mention.
we could not find a single phillips or torques screw anyplace on this bike, everything is bolted together with allen screws and bolts and most are stainless.

stock it does not have a side stand, but it does have the mounting points for one and there are at least a couple companies that are working on centerstands.

the engine was designed to have the oil changed while on the side stand, the drain plug is on the lower left side where you will get the maximum oil drainage on the side stand.
you can see it standing up, no fumbling around trying to find a plug under the engine.

the intake and airbox are way up high, you would have to ford through seriously deep water to suck in any water.
 
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When are you going stg3 rally raid?

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I don't know, I have the mighty mite CRF250L for serious off road work and it has seriously impressed me with how well it works the worse the trail gets.
 

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The current average is 55mpg ,riding into a 15+mph head wind at 70mph showed a instant mileage of 40mpg.
Slow down and it goes way up.
Full of fuel and fluids ready to ride 370lbs
 
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I was surprised to see you, as a experienced, longtime big bike rider, buying this small cc, 1 cylinder road bike.:zen: Don't get me wrong, I am sure the 310GS is a great bike but why for example did you not go for the 700GS instead?
 

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I was surprised to see you, as a experienced, longtime big bike rider, buying this small cc, 1 cylinder road bike.:zen: Don't get me wrong, I am sure the 310GS is a great bike but why for example did you not go for the 700GS instead?
1: it is far more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow.

2: I like small bikes, all my big bikes pretty much fell right into my lap at the right price. yes power wheelies are fun and being able to just pull out and gas it with no down shift and get around slow traffic in just a couple seconds is a rush.

3:the F700GS is nearly twice the price and 100 lbs heavier, the 800 is much taller as well

4: the key item, riding off road, big heavy bikes suck!! yes the 310GS is no feather weight and my CRF250L is a little red pig, but compared to my big bikes they are quite light and nimble
 
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According to https://www.zeroto60times.com/vehicle-make/bmw-motorycles-0-60-mph-times/ Leon's little thumper will do 0-60 in 6.6 seconds. It's not slow. It'll just take some planning to pass a semi up a hill into a headwind.

I've test ridden a brand new $25,000 GSA. At the end of the ride, with both toes on both feet extended all of the way, I managed to get it on the side stand without dropping it. Since I'm leg length challenged (30") and not that strong, I'm intrigued by light bikes.
 
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MCN in upcoming June issue will review BMW G310GS. Also the Royal Enfield Himalayan. It is a 100% reader supported publication and tells it like it is. This month has review on BMW310R and Himalayan. The 310 R got 5 stars on suspension and also handling. 59mpg. Good looking bike to me. Valve check at 12 K miles $1075. Parts and labor at dealer. Wow! 4750 MSRP.
 

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Valve check at 12 K miles $1075. Parts and labor at dealer. Wow! 4750 MSRP.

Whoa! So is this the razor industry strategy: under-price the bike and get it back in parts / service? I can't imagine how a value job on a single could cost a quarter the price of a new bike. Might as well not even do it, and just swap engines at 24k miles.

I guess none of these in the field are up to 12k miles yet for an actual price verification...
 

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This does say labor rates may vary on 12000 K maintenance. It is quoted from California. The article says made in India and motor assembled in clean room environment under control of BMW. It took me six hours to change 4 plugs on V-strom and air filter and put it back together. Had to take pictures to get all screws and little pins back. All the plastic and loosen radiator. It is just the way it is these days, high labor rates on everything.
The cylinder on the 310 leans backwards and intake is in front exhaust in back,(it showed) I like that. Some of the Moto 2 race bike are like that and they scream for 250cc.
The GS would be a great bike for me. Big suspension and tires and light
Check ups for M/C are up there with humans and medicine.:)
 

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took it for its first pie run today and it performed quite well. trip average mileage showed 52mpg.
tracking shows the SW-motech skid plate has arrived in the states.

we had stopped for fuel and water on the return trip and I was pumping gas when a car stops and for the third time since buying the 310GS, the driver says "hey nice bike, I didn't know BMW made motorcycles"
I tell him "they made motorcycles for five years before they started building cars"
 

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Isn't the exhaust out the rear of cylinder like it should be? Those are great looking bikes. The review says easy highway speeds and low vibes. I love singles.
 

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Out the back is logical but most bikes have had the exhaust come out up front and loop around or under the engine to the rear.
Yamaha’s YZ came out the back and wrapped around the engine.
 
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In my experience as riders rack up miles in different riding environments lot wind up moving "down" from the liter sized bikes to something midrange or smaller especially those who ride off pavement where weight makes a big difference.
I was surprised to see you, as a experienced, longtime big bike rider, buying this small cc, 1 cylinder road bike.:zen: Don't get me wrong, I am sure the 310GS is a great bike but why for example did you not go for the 700GS instead?
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I was surprised to see you, as a experienced, longtime big bike rider, buying this small cc, 1 cylinder road bike.:zen: Don't get me wrong, I am sure the 310GS is a great bike but why for example did you not go for the 700GS instead?
Single cylinder street bike lovers is like a disease. They have always been my favorite and I seem to always go back to them. Have two now and ride them more than the Wee. My first was a Triumph Cub even had a CZ I think 350 street. I would love to have a BSA 500 Gold Star Very fast bike 100 plus and very pricy.
 

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boy am I going to be busy friday, the SW-Motech skid plate is here and "by 8pm" tomorrow the engine bars and tank bars are supposed to arrive, as is also the headlight led conversion kit, and the led upgrade turn signals front and rear.
 

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now for accessory reviewing:
SW-Motech skid plate is a work of art, I almost put it to the buffing wheel to polish it to a chrome like shine but came to my senses. :lol2:

it mounts using the factory mounting points plus a additional bracket at the front that BMW apparently had anticipated as the bracket SW-Motech supplied bolted right up to four points already there and already tapped by BMW.

the Hepco- Becker engine bars also mount to pre existing mounting points supplied by BMW, the front mount points are the upper mounts for the SW-Motech bracket, H&B appears to have somewhat anticipated this as with the skid plate you just delete two spacers that would go where the skid plate bracket is if it wasn't there.

the right side went straight on, the left side not so much,:doh: the bracket required a slight tweak for the back bolt to line up and it also required the top back corner of the skid plate to be ground down a couple mm to clear the bracket.

the Hepco becker tank bars at first looked simple and easy to mount but it quickly went downhill from there.
the bottom mount is onto a existing mount on the engine bars and at the front it mounts to the spot where the front beak mounts when started with the lower supplied bolts it sits 3/8 of a inch to low at the front with the holes lined up, it also apparently was supposed to use the stock bolts that even if it lined up right, they would have been to short.

after some calculating cussin and head scratching a trip to home depot to scrounge the metric bins I was able to come up with just the right spacers and allen screws to mount it up after dropping said screws and spacers a couple dozen times.
 

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Himalayan.jpgThis may be the craziest motorcycle comparison ever. Just got my copy today will read tonight. Both made in India is why they even dare to compare. Two different scooters if you ask me, The 310 has much more hp even with less cc's. This is the only non biased magazine I know of no bike advertisers (supposedly) I look forward to it every month.
Leon your bike looks choice with all the necessary equipment.
 

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Read the article, ****!/2 for 310 GS, *** for Himalayan which is basically an overweight 434 pounds underpowered 21 hp lousy no brake 70 mph max. vibrating toy. It does have 21 lbs torque and 9 inches ground clearance. I like my Royal Enfield 500, but have always told people it is a good second bike for back road putting easy to work on and dependable.
Rider report really liked the 310GS. on pavement and alright on dirt roads. I really like it too.:sun:
 

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Read the article, ****!/2 for 310 GS, *** for Himalayan which is basically an overweight 434 pounds underpowered 21 hp lousy no brake 70 mph max. vibrating toy. It does have 21 lbs torque and 9 inches ground clearance. I like my Royal Enfield 500, but have always told people it is a good second bike for back road putting easy to work on and dependable.
Rider report really liked the 310GS. on pavement and alright on dirt roads. I really like it too.:sun:
I like it three! :rider:
 

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That tail light assembly needs to go next - love what you've done so far. I'm intrigued by this bike - when I get back home I'll have to go down to the local dealer and throw a leg over.

Keep the pix and reviews coming.

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I like that front wheel chock. What kind is that?

I've been wondering how many mods you've done in total at this point. I'm starting to think it never ends with any bike.
 

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I like that front wheel chock. What kind is that?

I've been wondering how many mods you've done in total at this point. I'm starting to think it never ends with any bike.
I got that chock at Northern tool it is a store brand cheepie.

mods, hmmm
Hepco Becker engine case guard
Hepco becker tank guard
SW Motec skid plate
TomTom rider 400gps
Osram silverstar ultra headlight bulb (Had LED conversion but its High beam coverage was weak)
Denali D2 2.0 trioptic riding lights with the optional Datadim dual intensity controller
Schroedie roundel combo running turn signal light disc
Denali B6 LED license plate brake light
Akrapovic stainless exhaust system
wolfman tail bag

update: add SWMotec center stand and Tractive rear shock.

if you buy a G310GS make the tractive shock your first modification, huge improvement!
 
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Leon, thanks for all this info.

Can you share some thoughts on comparing the CRF250L and the G310GS?
 

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Leon, thanks for all this info.

Can you share some thoughts on comparing the CRF250L and the G310GS?
hmmm :ponder:

pretty much totally opposite bikes for both bikes being on/ off road bikes.
the Honda (little orphan Annie) stock is very flickable and changes direction quickly. this unfortunately makes it quite nervous and scary above 60mph on the road, cranking front tire pressure well over what honda recommends stops the head shake this bike is prone to developing at speed.
the BMW (Gunther) rides like a much bigger bike, rock solid and stable you can look around and it will stay the coarse, look around on the Honda and it will go where you are looking including right into that tree.

both bikes need suspension work, the 310 needs it the most as the rear shock is, pardon the pun, "shockingly" bad, the 250l works just fine as a play bike, it will go through pretty much anything a more capable dirt bike will go through, just not as fast. want to go fast then put the racetech or the propilot mods on it and it will handle the bumps and jumps with the best of them.
the 310GS shock stock has a way weak spring and virtually no damping, it actually pogos, the tractive shock from rally raid is so much better, it feels firm but soaks up everything I could throw at it. I got the "low" shock for my short legs, off the bike it is a few mm shorter (it can be adjusted even shorter) put it on the bike and it is taller LOL stock there is 3 inches sag without anyone on the bike.

power: stock the pre 18 crf250l makes 18hp at best and no torque, I have no clue what Honda was thinking when they decided to detune the cbr250 engine. the cbr was not exactly a road burner to start with, choking it down just made people mad, fortunately the aftermarket was on its game and products to boost power came out quickly. for 2018 they have finally uncorked it as they are tired of people screaming for the much better 300 engine. :headbang:
the 310GS stock makes 34hp and that is even with the craziest intake restriction I have ever seen on a bike, the inlet to the air box is less than half the size of the throttle body, and my lawn mower has a bigger air filter.
yank the air box and slap on a K&N cone filter and reflash and it should make 40hp easy.

the 310 engine is a sport bike engine they based the design of the cylinder head on the 1000RR and it shows, huge ports and valves it don't start pulling good till 5000rpm and comes on the cams good at 7000rpm
that works good on road but hurts it off road, the fly wheel is to light for technical work and it is geared for launching across a intersection not across a log
 

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comfort, the 310gs comes with a very nice seat, you can ride cross country on this seat. the Germans clearly know a lot more about American back sides than the Japanese. the CRF seat IS cruel and inhuman punishment banned by most countries as inhuman treatment that should be outlawed.:rofl:
 

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Thanks for the info.

This video made it sound like the 310 is capable off road as well:

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH_r3p7RCwE"]Dirt Test BMW G 310 GS - YouTube[/ame]
 

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take the street tires off it and it would be better. did forest service roads on it and it rips down gravel just fine. just not sure I would want to do single track on it when I have a 250L.
 

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This guy was not a fan, it seems:

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sWpJmMdXbA"]2018 BMW G310GS - MC Commute - YouTube[/ame]

He said he preferred the CRF250L off road and the Versys 300 on road to the BMW.

Kinda hoping Honda does a CRF450L Rally. That might be a sweet bike.
 
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