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2018 Mextrek #7, June 14th - 17th 2018

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usafape

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Gina and I are going to meet the group in Llano and just ride the northern part of the loop. Richard should be at the gas station at hwy 12 and Hamilton pool road.
I was curious about that. I'm assuming Gina is your wife? Does she ride with you? I'm asking because my wife would like to go in one of these rides with me but I'm not sure how it is yet to say if it's ok or not.
 

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Gina is my girlfriend. She is SpiritAtBay on the forum. She rides a KTM690. She does not ride passenger. Does your wife ride? Some of the roads around Galeana are challenging enough that having a passenger on the bike might make it difficult to keep up with the group. There are many easier routes too.
 

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I see. She does but she doesn't have s bike at the moment. I'm not planning to bring her to Galeana. It's my first time so I was to see how it is first before I expose her to this. I was more curious about the local rides.

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I see. She does but she doesn't have s bike at the moment. I'm not planning to bring her to Galeana. It's my first time so I was to see how it is first before I expose her to this. I was more curious about the local rides.

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The most challenging prt of the local rides would be the sandy spots and some of the water crossings. The routes are pretty mild other than than that. I don't see why you could not bring her along.
 

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The most challenging prt of the local rides would be the sandy spots and some of the water crossings. The routes are pretty mild other than than that. I don't see why you could not bring her along.
Cool. We can't do it tomorrow but we'll sure try next time.

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Another round of updates being made right now...

"T Minus 66 Days" update mailed out.

If you think you are on this trip, and did not get the email, well.. you're not on the trip. Call me!!!!
 
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Everett is riding 2 up this Mextrek with his girl on his DR650. Slow pace, nothing difficult, would love to have another couple to ride with.
I will talk with my wife. Thanks


I have another question about my motorcycle's registration. Does the name on it have to have even the middle name? The DMV only added my initial in it.
 
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Question about vehicle permits:

Does anyone on here have experience with later (2nd) entry- with a previously NOT cancelled/returned permit?

I was the unlucky b*****tard who was en-route to the oct 2017 MexTrek and broke down 1/2 way to Mission.

I was therefore never able to even ENTER- and when I called to ask about how to cancel the permit/regain my deposit; was told that I could only do so at the exit of the Mexican border!
Furthermore; I was told that even if I couldn’t return the permit by Nov 1 (original exit deadline); I MUST do so within 180 days or never be issued another!

..of course, I took exception to the fact that I hadn’t even ENTERED Mexico (ever!); and that I should be able to even truck the bike to the consulate in Houston and prove it.
Getting no love there; I took the advice of a colleague and contacted visa and disputed the payment! —Visa actually agreed; and are still fighting this with the respective 2 governments!

..fast forward to April; and I REALLY want to join the June and/or Oct Mextreks!

.. and thus my dilemma:

I have until the end of this month on my 180 days.
I am considering trying to ride to the border to return the permit this month- but am afraid they may impound the bike and/or detain me! (..given aforementioned stubborn idea to ‘fight the power!’ )

Has anyone been in a SOMEWHAT similar situation?

Has anyone had any experience in letting a permit lapse beyond 180 days and tried to return? (My 2nd option being to just wait until actual day of trip to try to cancel old/get new at the same time)

Thanks in advance! (And trolling not required! :P - I am kicking myself enough already! :) )



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We had a guy who cancelled a forgotten truck permit from 2004 in 2016....he was lucky enough to still be driving the same dodge. 10 minutes later he had a bike permit.

The system is very straightforward. As cautioned beforehand, not making it to the border is the risk of an early permit purchase (I say this only so the other mexico newbies understand). But it is antiquated enough that after your passport expires and you get a new one the new number bypasses the old system flags and people are skirting prior obligations with a new passport and new bike.

Mexican systems are dated. They may know you disputed the charge, they may not. A smile and wink at the border works wonders, but you may be asked for cash payment to cover the old permit. The defense of ignorance of the rules is often accepted and in my opinion there is very little chance you'll be be detained or hassled. But there is always that tiny little risk so have a friend with some cash on standby.

If you want I can visit the banjercito locally and inquire more...Bajercito is the gov't banking arm charged with actong as cashier and escrow officer on TVIP transactions.
 
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I will talk with my wife. Thanks


I have another question about my motorcycle's registration. Does the name on it have to have even the middle name? The DMV only added my initial in it.
Middle inital only is fine. That is SOP for AZ and TX titles and registrations as far as I know.
 
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We had a guy who cancelled a forgotten truck permit from 2004 in 2016....he was lucky enough to still be driving the same dodge. 10 minutes later he had a bike permit.

The system is very straightforward. As cautioned beforehand, not making it to the border is the risk of an early permit purchase (I say this only so the other mexico newbies understand). But it is antiquated enough that after your passport expires and you get a new one the new number bypasses the old system flags and people are skirting prior obligations with a new passport and new bike.

Mexican systems are dated. They may know you disputed the charge, they may not. A smile and wink at the border works wonders, but you may be asked for cash payment to cover the old permit. The defense of ignorance of the rules is often accepted and in my opinion there is very little chance you'll be be detained or hassled. But there is always that tiny little risk so have a friend with some cash on standby.

If you want I can visit the banjercito locally and inquire more...Bajercito is the gov't banking arm charged with actong as cashier and escrow officer on TVIP transactions.


Thanks for the feedback, Peter.

.. this is more in line with what I have been starting to lean toward: just let the 180 days pass without action - and hope to just rectify it all at the border while applying for new one on the spot; explaining that I never even entered on the old permit...

Possible negative outcomes:
1) They refuse to issue me a permit and turn me away at the border
(No biggie; but disappointment - similar result to my last attempted visit, I guess!)

2) They realize payment for the first permit deposit is in dispute and force me to pay cash for that one AND the new deposit
(No real issue with that either - unless the visa dispute later comes back in their favor and I’ve then forfeited that deposit TWICE!)

3) They impound the bike and/or myself!
(Probably less likely as you say - and I think even less so if I am traveling with the group —-vs going down there this month and attempting it solo)

I think I’m coming around to being game to just try it in June at the border — though; if you DO have any “local Banjercito contact” available to inquire about this type of situation (...probably leaving out the part with the Visa payment dispute!) - that would also be great to gauge the possible temperature of response at border/recommended course of action.

.. I’ve spent hours here this week with a Mexican-American colleague trying to find out by phone and just ended up getting passed around in circles to different departments who wouldn’t give any advice...


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Thanks for the feedback, Peter.

.. this is more in line with what I have been starting to lean toward: just let the 180 days pass without action - and hope to just rectify it all at the border while applying for new one on the spot; explaining that I never even entered on the old permit...

Possible negative outcomes:
1) They refuse to issue me a permit and turn me away at the border
(No biggie; but disappointment - similar result to my last attempted visit, I guess!)

2) They realize payment for the first permit deposit is in dispute and force me to pay cash for that one AND the new deposit
(No real issue with that either - unless the visa dispute later comes back in their favor and I’ve then forfeited that deposit TWICE!)

3) They impound the bike and/or myself!
(Probably less likely as you say - and I think even less so if I am traveling with the group —-vs going down there this month and attempting it solo)

I think I’m coming around to being game to just try it in June at the border — though; if you DO have any “local Banjercito contact” available to inquire about this type of situation (...probably leaving out the part with the Visa payment dispute!) - that would also be great to gauge the possible temperature of response at border/recommended course of action.

.. I’ve spent hours here this week with a Mexican-American colleague trying to find out by phone and just ended up getting passed around in circles to different departments who wouldn’t give any advice...


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All sounds very logical.....

Can you send in a quick registration for Mextrek and I can add you to the whatsapp group discussion? Also, put Whatsapp on your phone please!!!

https://goo.gl/forms/VhAYWUYVvbFZ0Ih23
 
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For anyone who would like to join our whatsapp group and is considering this ride just send a text to me at 281772121one and I'll add you to the group. You have to have whatsapp installed on your smartphone.

Todays discussion is about having some meetups before the trip. I am recommending to attend the Austin Thursday meet and greet, the DFW Meet and greet, and there are a couple of other riders volunteering to get together over dinner to make everyone feel welcome and informed.
 

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The Austin m&g would normally be 5/3 but that’s the start of the TARA hill country ride so a reschedule is being discussed. Austin folks who were planning to attend that should watch that thread. I’m back in the country 5/8, so the 10th or 11th could be a possibility for me.


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I just got off the phone with TrailBoss, we are going to move the monthly Austin TARA meet to Wednesday May 2 at the Buffalo Wild Wings restaurant, 901 Little Texas Lane, Austin 78745 from 6 - 8 pm. Anyone in the Austin area that has questions or just wants to talk about Mexico ADVing please come to the meeting. Normally, monthly meetings are on Thursdays, but this one moved up a day so riders attending TAR on Thursday could still make the meeting.
 
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I'm signed up but I no longer have my WR450F shown in my photo.
I'll be on a beast F800GS so I'll probably want to stay away from the serious technical stuff!
Bob and I will meet up with you guys on the 13th in Mission.
 
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Hey Gang,

We're 38 days out from this trip!!! Please take a moment to check passport, bike registration, and driver license expiration for validity.

With the small number of riders and the long summer days on this trip we will have a blast and do a lot of exploratory trips. I have a short bucket list of things to see and do that on busy trips I put aside:

God's Eye (Ojo de Dios?): Hopefully ride up to, but if not possible, hike up to "God's Eye". This is a natural bridge at the top of a very high mountain ridge about 20 miles north of Rayones on the Rio Pilon, aka Pylon River. We've looked up at on the ride to Monterrey and wondered.

Unnamed Cave: About a half mile from Punta de Dios, the natural arch under the road from Galeana to Rayones, is a huge cave in the valley. A perceptive rider spotted a mexican family with picnic basket exiting the immediate area.

Unnamed Cave / Waterfall #2: North of Rayones is cave, and waterfall, dumping into Rio Pilon. There are also river cabins in the valley below. Goal is to check out the cabins for a future stay there and hike up to the waterfall and cave.

Golf Ball: I've never made it up to the top of Cerro Potosi. 2018 goal is to learn the "Back Way" up and gps document the trail, names, and landmarks for use in future guidebooks.

Road of Death: If the rainy season holds off I'm going to rerun the road of death. If rainy, I'll at least ride to Rancho Viejo and see how much farther I can go. What is it, 30 crossings in 20 km or something crazy like that. I recall it is like riding a motorcycle up Barton Creek Greenbelt, only legally.

What about you guys?

Also, did anyone meet up at the Austin meet and greet to talk Mextrek?
 
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Good news reported from a Mextrek#7 rider currently in Puerta Vallarta, the Mexican Peso is changing hands at 19.5 to the dollar!!! This trip cost just went down 10%!
 
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Road of Death: If the rainy season holds off I'm going to rerun the road of death. If rainy, I'll at least ride to Rancho Viejo and see how much farther I can go. What is it, 30 crossings in 20 km or something crazy like that. I recall it is like riding a motorcycle up Barton Creek Greenbelt, only legally.
You're going to need at least a 3 man crew to get the bikes past the Drowning Pool again

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Well dang, it doesn't look like I'm going to be able to make this round. I have a big project on the horizon that we are trying to open by July 1st and this will happen right in the middle of crunch time. :giveup:
I am fine with applying my registration towards MexTrek #8 and if something breaks in the next couple weeks I may chime back in and say I'm back in the chase. I haven't made room reservations but I did go ahead and get set up with the Baoefeng Radio and accoutrements. I would like to test them out at some point if someone in the Austin area has time to play radio check.
 
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Updates sent via email just now. if you think you are on the trip, but did not get the email, now is a good time to fill out a google form, install whatsapp on your phone, and get connected.

GPS tracks sent...richard's link is down.

Rider list sent.

Itinerary sent.
 
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Radios

Without going into technical details, be aware that an 8 watt radio does not have twice the range of a 4 watt radio. Far from it. If you already have a Baofeng or similar, I would not recommend upgrade for the extra watts.

If you really want to get the best bang for your buck, get a 14 inch dual band ducky antenna. Put that on your UV5R (or its Rugged Radio clone the RH5R) for the best move you can make for optimum range.

The Amazon link is HERE

If you want to see pretty much the range of Baofengs, it's HERE
 
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Quoting Axolotyl on his small crew first time trip into Mexico in March 2018. He followed the Mextrek routes and found the first time in the mountains as entertaining as I did when I first went to Mexico by moto in 2009.


"The ride after that was fast, flat for a while, then gentle rolling ranchlands, occasional roadside vendors with a smoking grill, a busted Tecate or Carta Blanca sign, a corrugated roof and a few people sitting around on stumps or plastic chairs, a little blare of ranchero music, then more open land. We passed through General Bravo, China, and somewhere north of Montemorelos the Sierra Madre Oriental Mountains appeared, a block of darker blue against the horizon, far away but massive and oceanic in their relationship to the land before us.

Around Montemorelos it became lush. Farmsteads in orange groves, trees arching over the road to form a vernal tunnel. Trying to skirt the busier part of town, we got turned around again, and ended up talking with a guy who ran a little market from the front of his home. If we’d had GPS we might have saved ourselves a few minutes here. But we also wouldn’t have got to talk to this pleasant person. He had lived and worked in Houston for 20 years, but had always planned to come back to Mexico to retire. He seemed very content to chat and didn’t try to sell us anything. It was a fine little concrete house he’d made, amid fruit trees and cacti, on a twisting road with a view of the mountains in the distance.

We found the highway again and then turned and rode up the narrow, paved, potholed road toward Rayones. This was some of the most beautiful riding I have ever done on my Strom. Everyone who’s done MexTrek knows this road -- it shoots up into the pinyon and oak forests of the Sierra Madres, with tight turns, steep drop offs, new views of jutting sunlit mountains just unfolding all around you as you throw your bike into the turns. Brilliant. It was Sunday afternoon, perfect riding weather at about 80 degrees now, and we passed a number of riders along the way, a few ADV guys, a little squadron of sport bikers, some Harleys. I was having some fun kind of working the lean-in/chicken-out ying-yang of a fairly new 650 rider, enjoying the views, minding the road debris, wondering idly what angle a Heidenau K-60 Scout starts to slide. I have some pictures of this section of road, but I took them on the return part of the trip, so I’ll post them a little later in the RR.

At Rayones, we turned onto the dirt road leading up to Galeana. Jim was at an advantage here, riding a DR650, not to mention having a lot more years of riding, some racing experience, and a lot more bikes, so he led on the thumper. But I’d been waiting for the dirt. I always seek it out. I’ve had some great rides in the Texas Hill Country, but mostly it’s 30 miles of pavement for 3 or 4 miles of graded dirt, then back to pavement. I love riding on dirt. I had a trail bike for a few years as a kid and I have always missed it. There is a great moment in “Long Way Round” when Ewan and Charley have been riding and dropping their GS’s on hundreds of miles of Mongolian dirt roads, and when they finally reached pavement again they get on their knees and kiss it. Well, that is the way I felt about the dirt. It had been two days of pavement to get here, and now I was on a dirt road in the mountains of MX.

It was probably 90 minutes or so of good, twisting, rutted, class 2 -- stones panging against my skid plate, shocks bucking, feeling the back tire start to skid just a little bit before it digs into a berm. There was stuff thumping around in my hard cases, which were themselves rattling on the mounts, and I was probably going pretty slow by TWT standards, but still …. ADV baby! It passed in a flash. Soon enough we were on the outskirts of the town, negotiating topes, avoiding strays, cruising into the town square, the mountains all around it, to find our destination -- the hotel Magdalena. We got our rooms and unloaded, strolled around the town, took some pics. Got dinner -- chicken mole and a beer. It had been a real good day."


Nicely written!!!
 
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I am leaving home for a few weeks, not back until after Mextrek!!!

We are having a little meet and greet at Lima Criolla (family style Peruvian, excellent, N Austin, 35 at 183 i the Linc center) this Tuesday, June 5th, for anyone who is interested in talking Mexico riding. Drinks at 6:30, dinner at 7:30.

I'll be online via my phone until Mextrek!!!
 
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Coming next week for Mextrek #7 and have a Honda XRL650.

Take another look at my thread below where I'm selling some XRL parts.

http://www.twtex.com/forums/showthread.php?t=117323

I sold some already and again lowered prices. And I'm willing to make a better deal if you get all of the items.

I live down near McAllen. So when you come down, we can meet up, just let me know. Any questions, PM me. Thanks
 
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